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Question about whether I'll get OTA updates on my phone after rooting and unlocking.
I read that if the system folder is modified that will prevent OTA updates. But I'm not sure if I had done anything to modify that folder.
I unlocked and rooted the phone using the Wugfresh Galaxy Nexus Root Toolkit v1.3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454314
Then updated CWM with ROM Manager.
I'm curious, too. I suppose I'll find out sooner or later since I have two Nexus at my disposal. Both unlocked, only one with root.
i have heard that you will have to flash updates if you are unlocked and rooted. So your best bet is to flash it through CWM.
I wonder if the radios get flashed with the stock updates? I did flash the leaked 4.0.3 radios and have had much better connection negotiations.
Try searching, there's a big discussion in one of the threads in this forum. It's not as simple as yes or no...
danger-rat said:
Try searching, there's a big discussion in one of the threads in this forum. It's not as simple as yes or no...
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Yeah, I had seen this brought up in other threads. The answer usually didn't seem clear as you mentioned. So was hoping for clarification.
Sounds like I'll just have to wait and see then.
I really recommend the other thread, and ask questions there - no one wants to repeat that debate all over again, so I'm not even gonna start...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473305
I found out that one MUST be on the stock 4.0.2 radios in order to flash the 4.0.4 update successfully. I have not tried yet but it is good to know. The radios are definitely flashed (updated) in 4.0.2.
You can be rooted and unlocked and still get OTA updates as long as the OS is still stock. You will lose root but you can get that back by rooting again. Running a custom ROM will change that though.
Which is the best/fastest/easieast way to get the stock recovery back? After unlocking/rooting/CWMing , the stock recovery got erased and not renamed. I guess it differs form GSM to CDMA , so if anyone could help me out here (GSM stock recovery wanted) I would appreciate it..
thanks a lot.
http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html download the right version from the google factory images. extract the file.
Then search for the image zip, extract the recovery.img.
Then boot into the bootloader and fastboot
"fastboot flash recovery recovery.img".
This will put the stock recovery back onto your device.
thanks a lot mate...already figured it out..
Hey guys, feel free to chew me out for this having been asked a million times but the other instances of this question always confuse me a bit so I wanted to ask for myself.
I was hoping someone could tell me how to return to rooted stock rather than running a custom rom. Also, once I return to stock, how do I get updates of the newest android software? Does a rooted gnex still get ota like our non root friends?
Please go easy on me for asking a question that I know has been answered before.
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Mindstar1 said:
Hey guys, feel free to chew me out for this having been asked a million times but the other instances of this question always confuse me a bit so I wanted to ask for myself.
I was hoping someone could tell me how to return to rooted stock rather than running a custom rom. Also, once I return to stock, how do I get updates of the newest android software? Does a rooted gnex still get ota like our non root friends?
Please go easy on me for asking a question that I know has been answered before.
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The easy way for you might be to check out mskip's tool kit found in dev section sticky http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310. With it you can flash back to stock rom when you download it from Google directly http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html (make sure you choose the LTE one or GSM if thats what you need and choose the latest version) and place it in the appropriate location on your PC. Flashing is simple and should take just a few key presses but you need to install the drivers to work the program which are included, all this is included in mskips post and instructions.
So when your back to stock rom you will be able to get OTA notification again, what stops OTA notification happening is non stock rom (custom rom) , non original boot loader and custom recovery (clockwork mod recovery for example). So provided you go to stock rom, keep the boot loader version and recovery stock as included in the downloaded rom from Google site you should be OK to receive updates directly from Google. Root will allow OTA but bear in mind after OTA update completes you will loose root.
I hope this helps you out
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I will be getting a new Note 2 in the mail soon from Rogers. What is the first thing I should do after opening it? I'd like to back it up, so that I can always restore to stock. I have read the Verizon Note 2's have a locked bootloader, but I haven't found a clear answer on weather or not the Rogers/ATT one is locked.
I plan to root it using CF-Auto Root, and then install TWRP Recovery. How do I back the phone up first, in case something goes wrong?
I am coming from an iPhone but I have a Nexus 7 and I love the ability to re-flash a stock OS to it using one of the toolkits. Is there somewhere you can download the unmodified stock OS for the Note2?
Thanks for any answers.
No reason to back what you have up as you can download the stock recovery and stock ROM/unroot it from this forum if that time ever comes, you can download these repositories ahead of time if you'd like, good to have.
You're on the right track after rooting and installing TWRP, then choose a stable ROM if you wish,
Install AdAway
OC\UV
Rom Toolbox
Many more, make it your own and have fun!
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I will be getting a new Note 2 in the mail soon from Rogers. What is the first thing I should do after opening it? I'd like to back it up, so that I can always restore to stock. I have read the Verizon Note 2's have a locked bootloader, but I haven't found a clear answer on weather or not the Rogers/ATT one is locked.
I plan to root it using CF-Auto Root, and then install TWRP Recovery. How do I back the phone up first, in case something goes wrong?
I am coming from an iPhone but I have a Nexus 7 and I love the ability to re-flash a stock OS to it using one of the toolkits. Is there somewhere you can download the unmodified stock OS for the Note2?
Thanks for any answers.
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I just did this yesterday to my I317 ATT GNote2.
On your desktop/laptop computer:
1) download/install the offiical Samsung USB Drivers on your desktop/laptop computer. There are links in the Development Section (How To) where you can get these as well.
2) download Odin3 to your computer (again, follow the stellar steps outlined in Dev Section).
3) download the CF-AutoRoot tar (found in Chainfire's CF-AutoRoot thread)
4) follow the steps in CF-AutoRoot thread to flash via Odin3... when complete, you'll still have stock firmware and stock recovery on your phone, but it will also be rooted (your flash counter will also increment, but you can fix this with TriangleAway app). Now you can flash a custom recovery (TWRP or CWM). If TWRP, on phone, download/install "GooManager" from PlayStore. From the app itself, you can install TWRP as your Recovery on the phone... Again, search is truly your best resource.. in the GNote2 Development sections (search for Stickies or "HowTo's").
There is no way to "completely backup" a stock phone with stock recovery (3e Recovery), so once you get rooted and get TWRP (or CWM) Recovery, you can do your first backup. This backup will capture the Stock Firmware (rom, kernel, modem [if on TWRP]) and your custom recovery... keep this safe.
You can always get the complete "Samsung Official Stock Firmware" by going to "SamMobile", create an account... then on Firmware page, just search for "I317"... it will display all the US and Canadian I317 Official Stock Firmware (rom/kernel/modem/stock recovery) which you can download install if you wish to return to "out-of-box" condition.
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Hi everyone,
I have some questions that will help me understand a lot more regarding rooting, unlocking, custom ROM's etc.
I have read a lot of things in the forums, but despite the trove of information, it's still not always easy to piece together what you need to know in order to understand or feel confident about the process. Sometimes I find answers, but they are a couple of years old and no indication they are still currently valid, etc.
- Is there any danger to sticking with the Stock Recovery as opposed to using ClockworkMod or TWRP if I am only going to be rooting, unlocking and using official Android OTA releases? If I remain with Stock Recovery, do I lose any rooting related features, or the ability to perform certain functions using NRT later?
- I want to confirm, if I keep the Stock Recovery and then I use NRT to root, unlock and flash an official stock Android release, should I then be able to get official OTA updates without having to wipe the device as I would with a Custom Recovery? I believe I would just need to unroot before the OTA, then reroot immediately after, correct?
I did read a thread that talked about how to restore stock recovery without losing data... but I'm using NRT and want to stick with that, which I don't think offers that option. I just want to keep it as simple as possible since I'm new to this. I'm afraid that if I mix methods, it will cause issues.
- If I decide to try an alternate ROM such as CyanogenMod, is that when using a Custom Recovery will become absolutely essential?
Under this scenario, would updates to CyanogenMod (or the other popular ROM's) require wiping the device data?
Thanks to anyone who can confirm if I'm understanding this all correctly.
dezzo77 said:
Hi everyone,
I have some questions that will help me understand a lot more regarding rooting, unlocking, custom ROM's etc.
I have read a lot of things in the forums, but despite the trove of information, it's still not always easy to piece together what you need to know in order to understand or feel confident about the process. Sometimes I find answers, but they are a couple of years old and no indication they are still currently valid, etc.
- Is there any danger to sticking with the Stock Recovery as opposed to using ClockworkMod or TWRP if I am only going to be rooting, unlocking and using official Android OTA releases? If I remain with Stock Recovery, do I lose any rooting related features, or the ability to perform certain functions using NRT later?
- I want to confirm, if I keep the Stock Recovery and then I use NRT to root, unlock and flash an official stock Android release, should I then be able to get official OTA updates without having to wipe the device as I would with a Custom Recovery? I believe I would just need to unroot before the OTA, then reroot immediately after, correct?
I did read a thread that talked about how to restore stock recovery without losing data... but I'm using NRT and want to stick with that, which I don't think offers that option. I just want to keep it as simple as possible since I'm new to this. I'm afraid that if I mix methods, it will cause issues.
- If I decide to try an alternate ROM such as CyanogenMod, is that when using a Custom Recovery will become absolutely essential?
Under this scenario, would updates to CyanogenMod (or the other popular ROM's) require wiping the device data?
Thanks to anyone who can confirm if I'm understanding this all correctly.
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I'll try to answer as many of these as I can.
1. There is no danger in sticking with the stock recovery, but you do lose some features - most notably stuff like backup/restore, and a whole bunch of advanced features that are either not present in, or are hard to get to in the stock recovery. I'd suggest TWRP - works great with mine, even though I use CWM for all my other devices.
2. In theory yes, not sure about this though.
3. Just get TWRP makes life easier.
4. It's still not essential, but VERY useful unless you want to push every zip through ADB instead of just hitting the "install zip" button. As for the updates - if it shows up in the update section it won't wipe your data, if you have to flash through a recovery it MIGHT, but not 100% sure.
There you are - feel free to correct me on any of this
Sorry for asking this in others thread but I just want to know something..
I am currently on aicp which is 4.3.1..if I want to update to kitkat..what method can preserve the data on my sdcard?
Well, I did have TWRP installed, running stock 4.4 and rooted and unlocked... then the 4.4 build got a minor OTA update.. and guess what?
Can't install it without losing all my data, because TWRP is installed. At least, that's what I read.
So, I decided TWRP had to go.
I can't keep wiping the device every time I do an OTA, so that's really the main thing I want to avoid.
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Well, I did have TWRP installed, running stock 4.4 and rooted and unlocked... then the 4.4 build got a minor OTA update.. and guess what?
Can't install it without losing all my data, because TWRP is installed. At least, that's what I read.
So, I decided TWRP had to go.
I can't keep wiping the device every time I do an OTA, so that's really the main thing I want to avoid.
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You can install the ota with twrp.
You can also replace twrp with stock recovery without wiping the device.
The only process that wipes the device is unlocking the bootloader,. If you leave it unlocked you can switch around as much as you like
1) does flashing a custom recovery on the nexus prevent OTA updates from google. I know it did for my HTC sensation XE, but nexus devices are designed for unlocking & stuff
2) if it does prevent OTA, can anyone link me to the latest & best custom recovery anyway. I know i can simply use the "fastboot boot <recoveryimagefilename>" command to boot into custom recovery without flashing it
3) if i were to flash it anyway, can i manually flash OTA's then. According to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380113 you need stock recovery to flash OTA's, then what's the point of custom recovery (other than nandroid backups) if ya can't flash stock OTA's
Ch3vr0n said:
1) does flashing a custom recovery on the nexus prevent OTA updates from google. I know it did for my HTC sensation XE, but nexus devices are designed for unlocking & stuff
2) if it does prevent OTA, can anyone link me to the latest & best custom recovery anyway. I know i can simply use the "fastboot boot <recoveryimagefilename>" command to boot into custom recovery without flashing it
3) if i were to flash it anyway, can i manually flash OTA's then. According to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380113 you need stock recovery to flash OTA's, then what's the point of custom recovery (other than nandroid backups) if ya can't flash stock OTA's
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1) yes
2) I would use this http://www.wugfresh.com makes every thing easy as pie. I would recommend twrp (team win recovery project) wugs fresh will automatically download, and install the latest version for you
3) no you can't flash "factory images" but if you want you can run flash-all.bat with the SDK tools thru ADB, but that would replace your recovery with the sock one, and return you tablet to pure stock, with whatever android version you downloaded from Google. But the good folks here on xda will create an update .zip you can flash thru your custom recovery, before the ota is even available. As far as why have a custom recovery in the first place, you can flash custom software (ROM's, kernels, mods) that will have more features than all the ota's will have in 1000 years. :victory: Examples, Multi window, overclocking, undervolting, change the color of everything (lol everything) shortcuts every where, (EVERYWHERE, without getting in the way, I know, how, but they do it, lol) battery meter mods, themes,(change the whole GUI), expanded desktop, native screen recording, the list goes on on and on...
Anyway, no don't accept an ota while your running a custom recovery, it will probably soft brick you, but the features you will gain from custom ROM's/ kernel's will vastly outweigh the features you will ever receive from an ota (and almost all custom ROM's will be based off of the latest android version anyway, so all the latest android features will be baked in) so ya IMO you should go for it. :highfive:
your 2) does not answer the question. Im not asking how to root, i've already done that
3) is wrong again. After removing a pinyin keyboard on 4.3 the 4.4 OTA wouldn't work. so YES i COULD flash a factory image. But then again. That answer is again besides the question. I'm not asking to flash a factory image. I'm asking if using a custom recovery would make it possible to still manually flash OTA's. I'm not gonna flash custom rom on the nexus either. I love the stock rom, smooth and fast but that's again besides the question
Ch3vr0n said:
1) does flashing a custom recovery on the nexus prevent OTA updates from google. I know it did for my HTC sensation XE, but nexus devices are designed for unlocking & stuff
2) if it does prevent OTA, can anyone link me to the latest & best custom recovery anyway. I know i can simply use the "fastboot boot <recoveryimagefilename>" command to boot into custom recovery without flashing it
3) if i were to flash it anyway, can i manually flash OTA's then. According to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380113 you need stock recovery to flash OTA's, then what's the point of custom recovery (other than nandroid backups) if ya can't flash stock OTA's
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thisguysayswht said:
1) yes
2) I would use this http://www.wugfresh.com makes every thing easy as pie. I would recommend twrp (team win recovery project) wugs fresh will automatically download, and install the latest version for you
3) no you can't flash "factory images" but if you want you can run flash-all.bat with the SDK tools thru ADB, but that would replace your recovery with the sock one, and return you tablet to pure stock, with whatever android version you downloaded from Google. But the good folks here on xda will create an update .zip you can flash thru your custom recovery, before the ota is even available. As far as why have a custom recovery in the first place, you can flash custom software (ROM's, kernels, mods) that will have more features than all the ota's will have in 1000 years. :victory: Examples, Multi window, overclocking, undervolting, change the color of everything (lol everything) shortcuts every where, (EVERYWHERE, without getting in the way, I know, how, but they do it, lol) battery meter mods, themes,(change the whole GUI), expanded desktop, native screen recording, the list goes on on and on...
Anyway, no don't accept an ota while your running a custom recovery, it will probably soft brick you, but the features you will gain from custom ROM's/ kernel's will vastly outweigh the features you will ever receive from an ota (and almost all custom ROM's will be based off of the latest android version anyway, so all the latest android features will be baked in) so ya IMO you should go for it. :highfive:
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Ch3vr0n said:
your 2) does not answer the question. Im not asking how to root, i've already done that
3) is wrong again. After removing a pinyin keyboard on 4.3 the 4.4 OTA wouldn't work. so YES i COULD flash a factory image. But then again. That answer is again besides the question. I'm not asking to flash a factory image. I'm asking if using a custom recovery would make it possible to still manually flash OTA's. I'm not gonna flash custom rom on the nexus either. I love the stock rom, smooth and fast but that's again besides the question
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2)I believe you asked what the "latest and best" custom recovery would be. (matter of opinion) I was simply trying to simplify your quest, by linking you to a toolkit that will do it for you.( wugfresh will install the latest version of twrp.. It will do much more than root your nexus... if you explore it) the check box under root. ( I personally don't use it, I prefer to do things the hard way)
3) I agree the stock ROM is "super smooth, and fast", (stable) that's why I personally use the xposed framework, with the stock ROM (updated to 4.4 krt16s, with the elementalX kernel 2.2)... And yes rooting, AND removing a system app (pinyin keyboard), will make an ota fail... Don't think you asked that... I don't know about flashing an ota thru a custom recovery, never done it, but it definitely sounds like a sketch idea to me. IDK why you wouldn't just flash an update.zip. ( pretty much the same as an ota...) If you are running a custom recovery... And if you really want that stock ota... flash-all.bat is your best friend...
From some guy who's been flashin stuff, and things, since his og galaxy nexus... Owned every nexus device since then, and haven't bricked nothing yet.
Just trying to help.
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