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I can't believe I never noticed this before but my keyboard does not show up when I long press menu. Now that I think about it I don't know that I have ever tried it before in ICS. Has this functionality just been removed in ICS or is it working for anyone else? If it works for you, which ROM are you running?
BTW I am running official AOKP Milestone 6.
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As far as I know it was removed when ICS came along. I've flashed a lot of ICS/ JB ROMs and none of them have that feature
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Most phones with official ICS don't use the menu button anymore. So unless the dev adds that option you really wont ever have that function.
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Thanks for the replies both of you. I guess it makes sense that it wouldn't have that functionality since new phones don't have the menu button anyways. I remember having to use quite often when filling out online forms in 2.2 and 2.3 but I haven't ever needed it in ics so I would guess that most websites have gotten better at pulling up the keyboard when needed.
It might be nice if devs decide to build it back in but I'm not too worried about it (and I guess no one else is either since I've never seen anything posted about it) so its probably not worth their time and effort.
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After finally getting the update, I tried 4.2 for the first time. To be honest, I imagined 4.2 to be a needed update to the already amazing 4.1.2.
PERFORMANCE
Like some of the users have stated, there is a slight slow down in performance. After using 4.1, the drop in frame rates in 4.2 is more evident. Apps run slower, laggier, and less smooth. Not all apps though, just some. To name a few would be Apex Launcher, Lock Screen App, Whatsapp (only slightly) and a few others. This bugs me. Project Butter? I definitely do not feel that its faster now despite what people have said.
STABILITY
I don't know how many apps I couldn't run because they forced close. And I'm suspecting its due to this 4.2 update. So now I'm patiently waiting for the updates to hopefully solve the problem.
NEW FEATURES
- Lock screen
I really dislike the new lock screen. It just looks ugly to me. The fonts they used in 4.1 was already great. Why change it to this? Google Now has been placed down at the bottom now, making it slower to access it in my opinion. There were a few times where the phone couldn't detect my swipes - maybe it could just be my fault for not hitting the right place). The idea of having widgets on the lock screen is well...rather niche. There isn't even a lot of widgets that can be added on to the lock screen unless I have to reinstall all my apps that I installed before the update. The worst thing about is, it lags. Even on the lock screen.
- Quick settings menu
I don't really find this helpful. Here's why. I already have an app called 'Notification Toggle' that basically adds toggles in my notification bar. Its minimal, quick and fast. I have no problem with Google adding their own version. Its just that in doing that, they have gotten rid of the settings button at the main notification drawer (one finger pull for notifications). Their own toggles are alright. I'm OK with the look of it, but 5 toggles just isn't enough for me (the others are just shortcuts e.g. settings, profile, battery). Hope Google puts back their settings button like in 4.1 or just improve on their toggles.
- Photosphere
One of the main updates in 4.2. I do like the software and layout behind it. Its really well thought out and its definitely an improvement from 4.1.I can access things faster, capture pictures faster and do photosphere - which is googles new 360 panorama that is similar to Google maps Street View. It isn't exactly perfect but I'm guessing its also the users part to take a well-stitched photosphere.
- Keyboard
This is probably the part where I won't complain. This keyboard is the keyboard I've been waiting for. After using Sense 4's keyboard with 'Swype' gestures, I couldn't find any keyboard that could outmatch it. Everything was perfect for me with that keyboard. But now finally I can say that I have found a better one. Not only aesthetically but also functionally. I type faster and smarter now. Google has done a great job with the prediction engine. Almost 90% of the time I'll get the word I want. And even if I don't, the word will more than likely to appear next to the main predicted word. But I believe that the upcoming updates will improve on that.
CONCLUSION
And no, if you're wondering I'm no apple guy. I prefer Android over iOS. These tiny little things just tick me off sometimes. Especially when it comes to performance issues. Most probably either jumping back to 4.1 or flashing another ROM. I think the only thing I wanted from this update was the 'new' keyboard and probably photosphere. I could've just got it separately and not complain. But anyway, that's my thoughts on 4.2. Quite disappointed as you can tell. If you're thinking of updating, think again before you do.
UPDATE: Replaced lock screen with Widget Locker. One problem down. Weird, but it seems a tad faster now for some reason. Battery life is about the same or maybe a little worse.
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I applied the OTA as soon as I was presented to it, and I have to say that something must have gone TERRIBLY wrong! I had an extremely fast and responsive device, now my gnex is really unusable. Slow, hanging, lags is not the proper word, we are talking about geological eras, here! Instead of going back to stock, I want to test some custom roms (I have to reinstall anyway, so what the heck... I will seize the occasion) and see what could have happened, but I am really desperate. I am trying to understand if I really have to go back to 4.1.2...
I did ota and dont have any sort of lag(camera orientation only), i have over a 100 apps installed and none of them have force closed or slowed down
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guys.. Looks like u r Talking about another phone.
Have you tried a clean update?
I flashed takju 4.2 and everything is Better, my phone has only one issue: no december on peoples APP.. Even camera has Better features..OK there is no shortcut to see the pics...but man!!! Really!!! try a fresh start with stock 4.2
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Yes, that is what I have to do.
I have resistances to doing a full reset because I have made a backup of the SD, but I am happier if my data stay where they are!
For the moment, I will experiment with a couple of ROMs, so I can wipe everything but the SD via recovery.
I'm mostly disappointed with 4.2. A few nice additions I guess: lock screen widgets though it's more or less personal preference, native swipe texting and photosphere. I also like the foundation for multi-users. In the future I think that will be a big thing.
But there are too many downsides. Performance lag compared to 4.1.2 (yes, even after clean install) and my issue with my cheek still pressing things despite the proximity sensor having shut off the screen (I've pressed random numbers and even managed to hang up on people during calls because of it). These are the major things bothering me.
I'll probably be downgrading to 4.1.2 in a few days.
ejpenha said:
guys.. Looks like u r Talking about another phone.
Have you tried a clean update?
I flashed takju 4.2 and everything is Better, my phone has only one issue: no december on peoples APP.. Even camera has Better features..OK there is no shortcut to see the pics...but man!!! Really!!! try a fresh start with stock 4.2
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I think the bugs are because something is wrong with the OTA update itself.
I did a takju factory image flash with a clean storage and no performance issues or bugs at all (Except december), but when a friend of mine did the OTA he got most of the bugs people complain about.
Advice: wipe your phone clean and flash the factory image or wait for 4.2.1
I'm quite happy with 4.2
The lock screen is the matter of preference, I like to have the access to the camera when using PIN or gesture lock. In the future I see having some news or weather widget there but definitely not gmail or messaging. I'd quickly regret that if my phone would get lost or stolen.
I love swype functionality. It's a nice blend between two keyboards and it doesn't lag.
Photosphere is big, with some patience you can get amazing results. Try using some kind of tripod for best results.
Gmail pinch to zoom is the long awaited update and works great but also thanks to scaling your emails you can now scroll between emails more easily.
There are parts where the device feels more laggy, less responsive (camera orientation, multi task list) but these will hopefully be fixed with the future updates. And knowing there is no December in people app Google is probably working full speed to bring that 4.2.1 to us
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I agree with you on most post points.
What I really wanted to say though is that I'm really impressed that you wrote all this on your phone!
Nebucatnetzer said:
I agree with you on most post points.
What I really wanted to say though is that I'm really impressed that you wrote all this on your phone!
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Why? Im curious
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My only complain is the look of 4.2. The lock screen is ugly, the digital clock, bold hours makes no sense!
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Nebucatnetzer said:
I agree with you on most post points.
What I really wanted to say though is that I'm really impressed that you wrote all this on your phone!
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What the feeling of being annoyed can do to you these days...
ejpenha said:
guys.. Looks like u r Talking about another phone.
Have you tried a clean update?
I flashed takju 4.2 and everything is Better, my phone has only one issue: no december on peoples APP.. Even camera has Better features..OK there is no shortcut to see the pics...but man!!! Really!!! try a fresh start with stock 4.2
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I did a stock OTA update. And have around a little less than 200 apps in total.
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I think the bugs are because something is wrong with the OTA update itself.
I did a takju factory image flash with a clean storage and no performance issues or bugs at all (Except december), but when a friend of mine did the OTA he got most of the bugs people complain about.
Advice: wipe your phone clean and flash the factory image or wait for 4.2.1
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Maybe it's cos mines the yakju variant.
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I installed the OTA, and it slowed the phone down. Then I wiped the device clean and flashed the 4.2 image, it was still the same. Google messed up with this one.
Nexus is the way I like it.
No issues here....love the new update
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What bugs me is the lower volume in Google music -.- I can't hear anything -.- I hope they fix this sh*t ASAP... The gnex is quiet in general but now its annoying -.-
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ronnie_1712 said:
I installed the OTA, and it slowed the phone down. Then I wiped the device clean and flashed the 4.2 image, it was still the same. Google messed up with this one.
Nexus is the way I like it.
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Try flashing a costum kernel, could help out a lot. I prefer Franco Kernel.
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My only complain is the look of 4.2. The lock screen is ugly, the digital clock, bold hours makes no sense!
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I was having the same issues, when I installed it, but now I flashed a ROM and they changed these things. Try it yourself!
One more thing: white is really white on 4.2
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One annoying thing, that you haven't mentioned, is that I'm able to change the notification (calls, texts, etc) volume from the lock screen.
Edit: As soon as I get enough time, I'll downgrade to 4.1.2 again.
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4.2 made for nexus 4 which is quadcore device,so is it feel any different in gnex with dualcore??
I feel no difference between the two performance/battery wise. No dramas with it or whatsoever. I see no reason why not to upgrade to 4.2 but that's just me
I am new to the whole flashing roms thing but managed to get cm10 on my phone. I have a few questions and also would like to know if there is a better rom. First question is why when I hold the home button there is no task manager just where I can switch to different apps? Second are these apps all running and draining my battery? Third is there a rom with a better camera app? I really liked the stock camera app that came with the phone but I know I can't get that? Another question is why can't I set the double home tap in cm10? I'd like that for voice search if there's a way. Last question I have is, is there a rom that is like the stock one that came with my phone but runs jelly bean? I know touchwiz has a lot of bloadware but I liked the overall options it had (camera app, task manager built into app switcher, etc). Thanks for all the help and sorry if I've posted in the wrong place I'm just looking for help.
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1) The task manager is part of TouchWiz (samsung twist on Android) and not part of the original android os. As far as I can tell, cyanogenmod tries to get close to clean android as possible.
2) When you hold the home button and see a list of apps, like ios, those are list of recently opened apps. They may or may not be running. In most cases its best to just leave it. Task managers, clearing ram, etc all of those don't really work. You can read/search why it doesn't. In short, you kill it, you either need to load it, or it loads by it self again (services)
3) Try looking for a better replacement for camera in the play store? Not really sure what you mean by better.
4) that's one thing I don't like about android; it doesn't have the ios activator identical. You can hold the menu button and it opens search. You can set another action with the menu button in CM10 by going to settings>system>hardware keys
5) I have personally tried a note ii and Galaxy S3 sprint port by the same dev. I'm on mobile so I won't be able to link you. Search for it
Best of luck
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I am new to the whole flashing roms thing but managed to get cm10 on my phone. I have a few questions and also would like to know if there is a better rom. First question is why when I hold the home button there is no task manager just where I can switch to different apps? Second are these apps all running and draining my battery? Third is there a rom with a better camera app? I really liked the stock camera app that came with the phone but I know I can't get that? Another question is why can't I set the double home tap in cm10? I'd like that for voice search if there's a way. Last question I have is, is there a rom that is like the stock one that came with my phone but runs jelly bean? I know touchwiz has a lot of bloadware but I liked the overall options it had (camera app, task manager built into app switcher, etc). Thanks for all the help and sorry if I've posted in the wrong place I'm just looking for help.
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Nooby to nooby lol...I was just going to try that cm10 rom but seeing what you wrote not sure I want too at this time but I think the current Rom I am using may be something you will like an enjoy..it's pretty much how the phone was stock.
All the options you asked about are still there, it's is just a bit more cleaned up and seems to run faster over stock, as of now I don't see any issues yet.
The link for the rom is below, make sure you back up and follow the op installation instruction, as this stuff is very confusing lol
Hope this helps
Serenity 1.2 gnote port
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951115&goto=newpost
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x92uTTdxglI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
As soon as the latest firmware hit I've tried all the roms and they all would end up with a unresponsive touch screen. No matter what kernel and rom, I'd have to do a battery pull, it could be less than an hour or around two days of uptime. It was weird because you can see PGM works fine. After countless of lock ups, frustrated, I just mashed all my fingers on the screen and it came back to life.
I know a few of you in the development forum are coming up with this issue, hopefully it works for you.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x92uTTdxglI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
As soon as the latest firmware hit I've tried all the roms and they all would end up with a unresponsive touch screen. No matter what kernel and rom, I'd have to do a battery pull, it could be less than an hour or around two days of uptime. It was weird because you can see PGM works fine. After countless of lock ups, frustrated, I just mashed all my fingers on the screen and it came back to life.
I know a few of you in the development forum are coming up with this issue, hopefully it works for you.
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Its a pgm issue man. Stop using it like I did and the problem is solved.
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I thought that too but it still happened numerous times without it installed.
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sman789 said:
I thought that too but it still happened numerous times without it installed.
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Bull****... I've had the exact same problem to the T man. If its not PGM then its another app. This is NOT an issue with android itself.
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I had something similar only difference was that I had a delay in touch response, found the problem to be nova launcher switched to Holo and it went away.
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Never had..maybe its because ur gnext is full of **** apps that not support android 4.2
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you see the status bar and the open apps in background?
seriously, no miracle that he has a stucked nexus...
Wow, way to take me as an idiot. Real friendly environment here. It's actually a documented issue and you'll see a few do have it. Some have related it to the mhz setting for screen off but that didn't fix it for everyone.
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you see the status bar and the open apps in background?
seriously, no miracle that he has a stucked nexus...
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So the greatness of Android 4.0+ handling memory well with backgrounded apps is now poopoo? C'mon darkavan, I'm not even talking about lag or slowness, the lockscreen (or as in the video, I bypassed the security lock, it didn't matter either way) would not register any touches no matter how long the screen was on.
Stop using pgm!!!!!!
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yeah you are running way too much, these things take time to load. first step to troubleshooting is start off fresh with no apps (likely being caused by one of them) and see how it works.
and watching you in the video is a lot like how my parents react. When something stalls (click click clickity click click) well these mashing your fingers all over the screen get recorded. thus adding to the lag.
Alright, I give up. It didn't matter what rom, kernel, how many apps were installed. It's happened to me on multiple fresh installs without a ton of apps or even PGM. This has been an issue since 4.2.1 first came out. So I went on a tear going through multiple ROMs trying to nail down if that was the issue.
But whatever, I'm stupid and clearly have no clue what I'm doing.
(I'm actully not a novice [even if the video shows me acting like one] if you haven't picked up on my sarcasm. 4.1 and 4.2 we're fantastic as well as 4.2.1 other than this issue)
sman789 said:
Alright, I give up. It didn't matter what rom, kernel, how many apps were installed. It's happened to me on multiple fresh installs without a ton of apps or even PGM. This has been an issue since 4.2.1 first came out. So I went on a tear going through multiple ROMs trying to nail down if that was the issue.
But whatever, I'm stupid and clearly have no clue what I'm doing.
(I'm actully not a novice [even if the video shows me acting like one] if you haven't picked up on my sarcasm. 4.1 and 4.2 we're fantastic as well as 4.2.1 other than this issue)
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Have you tried a bare bones stock google image? People run in to all sorts of odd issues when mixing and matching these custom roms and kernels. I've said it before, and I'll say it again - the stock google image is the best for stability.
The reason we don't beleive you is that you are literally the FIRST one to report this issue. It's an issue with PGM, sure, but not without it. There have been odd sleep of deaths reported, but nothing like this.
If the hardware on your device is in good condition there should be no issues here.
Install the factory image from Google, do NOT install any apps for a week, then report back here with your results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1776538 may be ?
you can check, in settings->developper option enable show CPU usage. it will over lay a top like output on your screen : check the blue bar (top right corner) if it's huge you fell vivtime to the same bug mentioned in the link
The 4.1.2 version is far better than the current 4.2.1 on the gnex , dunno about other devices shipping with JB on board (Nexus4)...i had used PGM on 4.1.2 and my nexus never showed a problem except the settings for PGM would be going missing and a reboot would fix the job temporarily , currently i had noticed many flaws in the 4.2.1 version that incl.s screen off delay , RAMDISK compatibilty issues (Causing SoD's +wakelocks maybe these are from the kernel) & we have to bear these small issues till we have a newer version of android , Android slows down while it installs an app since the vanilla version itself .
and for the most stable and dependable setup try Rasbeanjelly + Lean kernel these are the closest to stock with a few tweaks & patches :good: .
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The 4.1.2 version is far better than the current 4.2.1 on the gnex , dunno about other devices shipping with JB on board (Nexus4)...i had used PGM on 4.1.2 and my nexus never showed a problem except the settings for PGM would be going missing and a reboot would fix the job temporarily , currently i had noticed many flaws in the 4.2.1 version that incl.s screen off delay , RAMDISK compatibilty issues (Causing SoD's +wakelocks maybe these are from the kernel) & we have to bear these small issues till we have a newer version of android , Android slows down while it installs an app since the vanilla version itself .
and for the most stable and dependable setup try Rasbeanjelly + Lean kernel these are the closest to stock with a few tweaks & patches :good: .
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No relevant facts, no concrete evidence.. pure heresay...
Stick with a stock google image for the time being. Most likely if you go with a 3rd party rom/kernel combination it'll introduce some other strange bug along the side.
akira02rex said:
No relevant facts, no concrete evidence.. pure heresay...
Stick with a stock google image for the time being. Most likely if you go with a 3rd party rom/kernel combination it'll introduce some other strange bug along the side.
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Stock 4.2 is definitely more buggy than cm10 stable, cm 10.1 nightlies, and many other 4.2 ROMs. 4.2 is probably one of the buggiest releases ever. There are random reboots on several devices and many other bugs throughout the os.
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It's the problem of PGM. Last time I also experience that. The latest version of PGM should solved it.
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Everyone wants to unlock their bootloader so they can run a custom ROM, the supposed purpose being to improve performance and gain new features. But then, once they get the new ROM on there, they keep posting about all the problems they are having, and how this, that or the other doesn't work as well as stock. After goofing with every, and I mean EVERY ROM available for the Razr M, IMHO there's absolutely no reason to use a custom ROM if you are expecting "like stock" performance. It's fun, it's addicting, it can get crazy sometimes, but don't expect it to ever be "Final". More than likely, it will be abandoned the moment a new phone or Android version comes along, and you'll be left with all those unsolved FCs and "almost works" features left hanging. Sad, really.
And then there's the whole "let's take the stock ROM from some other phone entirely and try to make it work on our phone" thing. I totally don't get that. If you like the Necco Choco-Android-o-rama's OS so well, why not just buy that phone instead? I'm just sayin'...
Rooting? That's totally different. I don't know what they do in other countries for bloatware, but Verizon certainly loads up some stinker software here in the US. Tell me, unless you're really into that sort of thing, why would the average shmoe care about Zappos? I certainly don't! And, if I wanted an app for NFL football, I'm perfectly capable of picking one from Google Play, yeah? Same with all the Amazon shtuff. Yeah I get it, advertising helps cover manufacturing costs, and all that jazz. Sure they do it to every new PC from Brand Name X too, but at least you can uninstall it. So rooting is sort of revenge for hogging my limited storage space and then limiting my ability to do anything about it.
And since I'm on this rant anyway, please... PLEASE!!! No more of this "Let's see if we can make our Android look like an iPhone" crap. Or worse, "Windows 8 Phone" crap! - Ewww! That's like taking a Jaguar and trying to make it look like a Ford Pinto... you might manage it, but who the heck would want it?
This rant has been a Public Service Announcement. The thoughts and views expressed herein are not to be considered... period. :silly:
You said it!
I linked to this from my restore where I have a commentary section.
I totally agree. Don't flash ROMs if your going to complain. Its one thing to report to the devs and quite another to ***** about it. And good on ya for the entire rant.
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I really hope the motox stock can be ported.
It would be a big event if he & others did it.
I thank them on each post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2412427
I originally rooted and unlocked my bootloader on this phone because of the screen shake issue that a Motorola introduced in an update if that didn't happen I may not of rooted the phone its stock ROM has such a good layout its no wonder so many complain. I however knew what I was getting into. Rule of thumb to new flashers backups are your friend and don't piss off the developers.
I like stock... de-bloat it and its good to go... just wish I could find something to mod the navi bar... remove the recent apps button replace it with the menu button and change color of it...
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well, the main reason why folks are not as excited about the new ROMs, is b/c there are not any ground-breaking features on the 4.2.2 or 4.3 operating systems. When I got my first android, I had Froyo. Folks were dying to get to Gingerbread in order to vastly increase performance/battery life.
the deal with Jelly Bean, is that the upgrade from stock 4.1.2 to 4.2.2 or 4.3 is minimal at best - and the changes are mostly aesthetics (although, I read that 4.3 has better bluetooth connectivity). but mostly, 4.2.2/4.3 are primarily geared towards tablets.
the race is on now to see what KitKat can bring to current phone users.
in terms of improvements, just as radorix said, these custom ROMs eliminated the shakes that I was getting on 4.1.2. so for me, while that was not a huge deal, it's enough for me to go custom.
personally, I like the tiles layout of 4.2.2 as well as the AOKP customization, so I'll stick with that for now given that my battery life/performance is stock-like.
*claps* You said it. The Razr M has actually been the first Android phone I owned where I've kept the stock ROM. I think it does fine with 4.1.2 atm, and if I really wanted a change I'd probably just theme it.
The only thing that matters to me is stability and speed. I like a fast phone and I like to o/c, push the phone. I like to test things and try to understand its problems rather than build myself because I don't have the time. If I can find the right medium between speed and stability it becomes my dd, naturally. But stock was built for a reason and every now and then I go back to 4.1.2 because I miss some of the features. Like the far left quick settings menu and Circle Clock. Why have to find a work around to add all these features and fixes to a reimagined custom OS that causes more problems when its already working? We wouldn't have anything to work with if we didn't have the source to start at!
Couldn't agree more. I've had 9 different android devices in the past 4 years. Only ones I haven't rooted are my Sony tablet s (original, don't even get me started with their abandonment of this thing, hey let's leave bugs, make a seemingly unlockable boot loader, not share any code, abandon it after realizing all the bugs exist, then support everything we make after it) and my original nexus 7. I too came back to a stock debloated deodexed ROM for the RAZR M.
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JPHoller said:
Couldn't agree more. I've had 9 different android devices in the past 4 years. Only ones I haven't rooted are my Sony tablet s (original, don't even get me started with their abandonment of this thing, hey let's leave bugs, make a seemingly unlockable boot loader, not share any code, abandon it after realizing all the bugs exist, then support everything we make after it) and my original nexus 7. I too came back to a stock debloated deodexed ROM for the RAZR M.
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Lol. Not the only Sammy device they've dropped. Heard of the Galaxy Player 4.2?
Oh and ezknives, you do realize the menu button is completely redundant right? Considering it pops up if needed and isn't even supported/required for Holo apps
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Lol. Not the only Sammy device they've dropped. Heard of the Galaxy Player 4.2?
Oh and ezknives, you do realize the menu button is completely redundant right? Considering it pops up if needed and isn't even supported/required for Holo apps
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Not for me... with-in various apps it does not... when on different ROMs and I removed the multitasking feature and replaced it with a menu key I was able to utilize features that was other wise inaccessible... like deleting messages in Facebook app for instance... that cannot be done without a menu button or opening your browser and requesting the desktop site... I just need my menu key its never there when I need it...and I don't know what halo apps are nor use it I don't believe...
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ezknives said:
Not for me... with-in various apps it does not... when on different ROMs and I removed the multitasking feature and replaced it with a menu key I was able to utilize features that was other wise inaccessible... like deleting messages in Facebook app for instance... that cannot be done without a menu button or opening your browser and requesting the desktop site... I just need my menu key its never there when I need it...and I don't know what halo apps are nor use it I don't believe...
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Holo means apps designed for android 4.0+.
It's the ICS+ ui style. There should be a way to access the menu without a dedicated button - either built-in or by telling the system it's a legacy app that needs the settings button to appear
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netizenmt said:
Everyone wants to unlock their bootloader so they can run a custom ROM, the supposed purpose being to improve performance and gain new features. But then, once they get the new ROM on there, they keep posting about all the problems they are having, and how this, that or the other doesn't work as well as stock. After goofing with every, and I mean EVERY ROM available for the Razr M, IMHO there's absolutely no reason to use a custom ROM if you are expecting "like stock" performance. It's fun, it's addicting, it can get crazy sometimes, but don't expect it to ever be "Final". More than likely, it will be abandoned the moment a new phone or Android version comes along, and you'll be left with all those unsolved FCs and "almost works" features left hanging. Sad, really.
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Meh. I disagree. I've been running CM since it went official and I haven't had any complaints. I experience much-better-than-stock performance and battery life, plus it is way more customizable. I love it!
allc0re said:
Meh. I disagree. I've been running CM since it went official and I haven't had any complaints. I experience much-better-than-stock performance and battery life, plus it is way more customizable. I love it!
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I just tried it again. Froze on reboot, wouldn't let me into recovery, same BS as all the 4.3 versions. And I wrote the book, well thread, on how to install it, so yeah I wiped etc.
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i'm enjoying better than stock performance on the stable 4.2.2 branch, and i built a custom kernel for CM10.1 for better performance. I tried the 'stock' life and its boring lol. The custom ROM features and better performance are what makes it worth it in my view. 4.3 will be even better as work is continually being done on it, and it hasn't been out that long. Also, I think we need to give appreciation to the devs for giving us options as far as what we can run on this phone compared to being stuck with only one choice.
CM is getting good. Recently the "display freezing" issue got fixed, also more fixes for cardock audio and wifi. It simply takes a while to get it all done properly (with that what's left is SIM I/O and HDR (works with Moto X camera application)).
@netizenmt: Booting to recovery is not affected by the ROM you have installed, so you screwed up the installation at some point.
Skrilax_CZ said:
CM is getting good. Recently the "display freezing" issue got fixed, also more fixes for cardock audio and wifi. It simply takes a while to get it all done properly (with that what's left is SIM I/O and HDR (works with Moto X camera application)).
@netizenmt: Booting to recovery is not affected by the ROM you have installed, so you screwed up the installation at some point.
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Would you offer a build for a Bluetooth phone user that has the SD swap working?
One that might quiet this thread?
netizenmt said:
I just tried it again. Froze on reboot, wouldn't let me into recovery, same BS as all the 4.3 versions. And I wrote the book, well thread, on how to install it, so yeah I wiped etc.
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There are a few tricks to getting 4.3 installed and running but it will never happen if u just quite and go back to stock before u get it up and running correctly. I had a terrible time getting 4.3 to boot, keyboard forcing close, stability etc but I figured all that out and wouldn't think of going back to stock. The amount and way if partions the internal drive alone will keep me from ever going back to stock.
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stanlalee said:
There are a few tricks to getting 4.3 installed and running but it will never happen if u just quite and go back to stock before u get it up and running correctly. I had a terrible time getting 4.3 to boot, keyboard forcing close, stability etc but I figured all that out and wouldn't think of going back to stock. The amount and way if partions the internal drive alone will keep me from ever going back to stock.
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You actually just made my whole point.
While it's cool you had time, patience, skill and effort to resolve your issues with 4.3, that's not the point of this thread. So do I. The point is, if you think you're going to slap one of these ROMs on and everything is going to work like stock, forget it. If that's what someone expects, they should stick to stock.
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