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Anyone see the Tmobile SGSII available at Walmart or Target yet? I see them on the Target mobile website, but they don't have nearly as consumer-friendly policies when it comes to refunds and exchanges as the stores....
I tried a local Target last week and they carried no T-mobile devices -- only refill cards?!
My local Walmart in North Carolina has them. But their also on the Walmart website also.
I got mime at Target. It was cheaper than Tmo.
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Got mines from wal mart for 218
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I checked Walmart here and they didn't have it as of Saturday. I was at Target but forgot to check on it. I know that Amazonwireless and Wirefly had great prices on the phones as well. The T-Mobile store was unwilling to match their prices. But I didn't want to wait a number of days before my device arrived.
lozonw said:
I got mime at Target. It was cheaper than Tmo.
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How much did you pay at target?
Costco is usually cheaper than anyone else. Check it. I sell the GS2 for 199/new act and 229/upgrade. All instant rebate, plus free car charger, leather pouch and screen protectors. Not to mention 90 day return policy.
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Got mine at super target for $213.
$199.99 plus tax for an upgrade.
It came to $211 something after tax.
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How much did you pay at target?
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lozonw said:
$199.99 plus tax for an upgrade.
It came to $211 something after tax.
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i dont do mail in rebates. I had a full upgrade lol tmobile charged me $324 with a mail in rebate it be like 274 lol. Lets not mention how long it might take to get back months.. Think i might take my galaxy 2 back and go to target lol.
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Think i might take my galaxy 2 back and go to target lol.
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Would you be able to keep your same phone number after doing that?
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Would you be able to keep your same phone number after doing that?
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I'm already on t-mobile upgrading phones doesn't change your phone number. That's only when getting a new line etc. I bought my previous phones from bestbuy before i never got my phone number changed.
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I'm already on t-mobile upgrading phones doesn't change your phone number. That's only when getting a new line etc. I bought my previous phones from bestbuy before i never got my phone number changed.
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OK, I was just wondering because I just ported my number over from Sprint. I'm not sure what would happen if I returned my T-Mobile purchased phones (already ported to my old Sprint #s) and went to Target or Amazon to buy new phones on a new contract, etc. Saving $60+ sounds good, but loosing both of my numbers does not.
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OK, I was just wondering because I just ported my number over from Sprint. I'm not sure what would happen if I returned my T-Mobile purchased phones (already ported to my old Sprint #s) and went to Target or Amazon to buy new phones on a new contract, etc. Saving $60+ sounds good, but loosing both of my numbers does not.
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You should ask the t-mobile reps first i think there is a thread with a bunch of them of them there they will give you the exact answer you need.
Just picked mine up at Walmart for $215 and I don't seem to have the vertical lines people are talking about.
Really happy with this phone.
It has built date of 10/2
Didn't feel like paying over $300 at T-Mobile and then waiting on the rebate!
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Just picked mine up at Walmart for $215 and I don't seem to have the vertical lines people are talking about.
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Take it in a dark room with no light and look at a dark gray wallpaper or a picture taken with the camera of the dark room, you'll see them. ALL of these phones have them. It's just harder to see in a bright room.
I went by Target tonight and they had no decent T-Mobile phones. Maybe Super Target does.
Sam's Club just setup their T-Mobile phones this week. They are offering the TMO SGS2 for $188 on a 2 year contract. There is no restocking fee, no activation fee, and a 30 day return period. I didn't get to ask about plans in the store though.
Checking on samsclub.com, they offer the phones for $179 each, but they don't appear to offer any of the Value plans. Thus the Classic Family 1000 2GB Plan is $120 a month for 24 months (total post-purchase cost for 2 phones $2880) compared to the Value Family 1000 2GB Plan in the T-Mobile store for only $80 a month for 24 months plus $15 per month per phone for 20 months (total post-purchase cost for 2 phones $1920 + 600 = $2520). As far as I know, the plans provide identical service and limits.
So you can save $50 on each phone at samsclub.com ($229 up front in T-Mobile store with Value Plan), but you end up paying more over the life of the contract ($180 per phone more for the first two phones).
Are the Value plans only offered at T-Mobile stores? If so, why would anyone buy their phone elsewhere?
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T-Mobile only charged me $229 for each SGS2. The rebates were instant. I guess that is for new members only?
Either way, I went by Target tonight and they had no decent T-Mobile phones. Maybe Super Target does.
Sam's Club just setup their T-Mobile phones this week. They are offering the TMO SGS2 for $188 on a 2 year contract. There is no restocking fee, no activation fee, and a 30 day return period. I didn't get to ask about plans in the store though.
Checking on samsclub.com, they offer the phones for $179 each, but they don't appear to offer any of the Value plans. Thus the Classic Family 1000 2GB Plan is $120 a month compared to the Value Family 1000 2GB Plan in the T-Mobile store for only $80 a month. As far as I know, the plans provide identical service and limits.
So you can save $50 on each phone at samsclub.com, but you end up paying more over the life of the contract ($480 per phone more for the first two phones).
Are the Value plans only offered at T-Mobile stores? If so, why would anyone buy their phone elsewhere?
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Yes only for new contracts.
got mine from craigslist for 400 dollars lol, since my dad didnt want to go on a contract.
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got mine from craigslist for 400 dollars lol, since my dad didnt want to go on a contract.
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I would do the same, but am concerned about discovering problems without warranty
Hey Everyone,
I currently have a Galaxy Nexus pre-ordered on Bell on a three year contract ($185 and $50/month for 500mb of data + 150 minutes). I found out that Mobilicity is also a GSM network that will work with the Galaxy Nexus and the price per month is only $17.50/month (for unlimited data, unlimited local calling and caller ID!) but the only downside is that many people report that the network drops often and there is no HSPA+ speeds. I know this may seem like a REALLY stupid question to ask, but do you guys think I should cancel the order, and then re-order the Galaxy Nexus unlocked for $800? (Taxes + cancellation fee). I mean with the network not supporting HSPA+ and the network itself not being supported in some areas in Canada (although I don't travel much and according to the coverage map I'm fully supported), is it really worth it from switching from my current order with Bell on a 3 year contract to Mobilicity?
Note: I realize its a fairly stupid question, but I haven't been thinking straight for the past few days and your comments will be extremely appreciated.
I go through 500MB of data in a week. That plan would never work for me. I have a T-Moble/Wal-Mart $30/month unlimited data (5GB at H+), unlimited text, 100 talk mins (I never talk on the phone) and bought an unlocked GN for $850. The closest plan would cost me $99/month with Verizon.
I don't get why people can't realize that buying a good phone and then getting a cheap plan is cheaper in the long run.
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I go through 500MB of data in a week. That plan would never work for me. I have a T-Moble/Wal-Mart $30/month unlimited data (5GB at H+), unlimited text, 100 talk mins (I never talk on the phone) and bought an unlocked GN for $850. The closest plan would cost me $99/month with Verizon.
I don't get why people can't realize that buying a good phone and then getting a cheap plan is cheaper in the long run.
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I pay $60 after taxes and fees per month on Tmobile USA with 1000 minutes, unlimited texts, and 5GB of H+ speeds. I got the Galaxy S II for $149 with a 2 year contract. Over 2 years I will pay a total of about $1400 after all taxes and fees, including the price of the phone. Over 2 years you will pay about $1,600 including the price of your phone... Who's saving money?
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I pay $60 after taxes and fees per month on Tmobile USA with 1000 minutes, unlimited texts, and 5GB of H+ speeds. I got the Galaxy S II for $149 with a 2 year contract. Over 2 years I will pay a total of about $1400 after all taxes and fees, including the price of the phone. Over 2 years you will pay about $1,600 including the price of your phone... Who's saving money?
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Huh?
$30 x 24mo + $850 phone = $1570
$60 x 24mo + $150 phone = $1590
And he overpaid for the phone considering most are getting it for around ~$700 shipped. So for most in his situation it'd be more like ~$1420 for 2 years + phone. And you got a good deal on your SGSII, as T-mo advertises it for $229. So we can say most people's annual cost in your situation is ~$1670.
So if we go with real-world math its ~$1420 vs. ~$1670....
Not to mention that you're on a contract, and he isn't. Some people don't like being in a contract and that's worth it for them.
Yea I'm a heavy data user.... so I thought. But looking at several past invoices I realized I only use about 200 minutes and about 1.5-2gb a month data. I utilize wifi at work, work, and hotels when I can.
I pay $60 a month on T-Mobile for 1000 minutes and 5gb cap.
Buying the phone outright and using the Nexus on a cheap plan (Simple Mobile or Walmart special) is the way to go.
I also have a Verizon blackberry through work. I'm ditching my personal line, buying the Nexus on a new contract price on the corporate account and saving my money.
500mb of data would kill me... especially if there are overages and penalties.
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Towle said:
I pay $60 after taxes and fees per month on Tmobile USA with 1000 minutes, unlimited texts, and 5GB of H+ speeds. I got the Galaxy S II for $149 with a 2 year contract. Over 2 years I will pay a total of about $1400 after all taxes and fees, including the price of the phone. Over 2 years you will pay about $1,600 including the price of your phone... Who's saving money?
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$149 up front but you pay full price for the phone over the 2 years which is $15 a month or more extra on top of the 59.99 a month
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Huh?
$30 x 24mo + $850 phone = $1570
$60 x 24mo + $150 phone = $1590
And he overpaid for the phone considering most are getting it for around $700 shipped.
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Correct 30x24+850=1570, which would work if there were no taxes and fees. And I did mine wrong I was going off of the time until I can upgrade again, my bad.
I'm still paying less than him after taxes and fees, and getting 10x the minutes.
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$149 up front but you pay full price for the phone over the 2 years which is $15 a month or more extra on top of the 59.99 a month
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What? No. I pay $149 total for the phone, I'm not on a value plan.
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Correct 30x24+850=1570, which would work if there were no taxes and fees. And I did mine wrong I was going off of the time until I can upgrade again, my bad.
I'm still paying less than him after taxes and fees, and getting 10x the minutes.
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Look at my post again for a better breakdown... And even if he's paying 10% sales tax on his monthly purchases (there's no carrier fees involved with a pre-pay plan), that's only another $72 over 2 years.
That walmart/T-mo prepay play is an amazing deal. I'm looking to switch to it myself from my EM+ plan.
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What? No. I pay $149 total for the phone, I'm not on a value plan.
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pinky up i need that plan!!
The point I'm trying to make is that there is no savings in buying a phone outright and going on an off contract plan (when comparing apples to apples with the plans). The only difference is one has a contract and one doesn't. Which I don't plan on leaving Tmobile anytime soon, or ever, because everyone else is more expensive.
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The point I'm trying to make is that there is no savings in buying a phone outright and going on an off contract plan. The only difference is one has a contract and one doesn't. Which I don't plan on leaving Tmobile anytime soon, or ever, because everyone else is more expensive.
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Well there is considering that this phone isn't offered on T-mobile... If you're going to be buying a phone full price to get one not available on the carrier, then you're saving money by going pre-pay or some form of off-contract service. And like I said, people see value in being off contract.
I wasn't trying to say you're doing the wrong thing (everyone makes their own choice for service that works for them), but I have to point out blatant math errors when you're trying to prove your point. He really is spending less money over 2 years.
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Well there is considering that this phone isn't offered on T-mobile... If you're going to be buying a phone full price to get one not available on the carrier, then you're saving money by going pre-pay or some form of off-contract service. And like I said, people see value in being off contract.
I wasn't trying to say you're doing the wrong thing (everyone makes their own choice for service that works for them), but I have to point out blatant math errors when you're trying to prove your point. He really is spending less money over 2 years.
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I'm not saying anyone is doing anything wrong by going that route either, it's all personal preference. I just didn't like the statement "I don't get why people don't realize" when it's not true.
And your comparison isn't even valid. I'm pretty sure neither of us live in fake worlds and I paid $149 for my phone and he paid $850 for his. Even if they come out to be the same price over 2 years, I'm getting 10x the minutes, and don't have to fork over $600+ at one shot. Like I said, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the other plans whatsoever, I just don't want people saying that everyone else is stupid for not going that route, when it's all personal preference.
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I'm on someones employee t-mobile plan : ) 2k minutes my faves unlimited txt web tethering and insurance for $10 a month : )
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I'm not saying anyone is doing anything wrong by going that route either, it's all personal preference. I just didn't like the statement "I don't get why people don't realize" when it's not true.
And your comparison isn't even valid. I'm pretty sure neither of us live in fake worlds and I paid $149 for my phone and he paid $850 for his. Even if they come out to be the same price over 2 years, I'm getting 10x the minutes, and don't have to fork over $600+ at one shot. Like I said, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the other plans whatsoever, I just don't want people saying that everyone else is stupid for not going that route, when it's all personal preference.
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I simply covered the fact that most people are buying their Nexus' for ~$700, and T-mobile advertises the SGSII for $229.
That aside, I think his statement still holds strong. You've obviously crunched the numbers but most don't. Most people don't realize that there are fantastic off contract or pre-pay options that can save them $100's per year. Especially if they're coming from Verizon or AT&T, we're talking about moving from ~$100 per month to ~$30.
Thanks so much for the replies guys I think what I'll be doing is buying it on a three year contract, buying another phone unlocked after a year or so when it becomes TRULY obsoleted in terms of software + hardware and using the sim on that. (I also had a question: would the galaxy nexus be considered "unlocked" after I remove the sim? Or is it still locked to the carrier? Also, if it is locked to the carrier, could I just get it unlocked from an external source?) Also, I have 14 days to return the phone (as long as I don't use 15 minutes or 1.5 mb) Finally, I'm not on a two year contract, but a 3 year one. The best plan I could get is $70/month and I get 6GB of data + 200 minutes. I see how I'm losing money, but I'm in Canada and the plans here are MUCH worse than in the US.
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Thanks so much for the replies guys I think what I'll be doing is buying it on a three year contract, buying another phone unlocked after a year or so when it becomes TRULY obsoleted in terms of software + hardware and using the sim on that. (I also had a question: would the galaxy nexus be considered "unlocked" after I remove the sim? Or is it still locked to the carrier? Also, if it is locked to the carrier, could I just get it unlocked from an external source?) Also, I have 14 days to return the phone (as long as I don't use 15 minutes or 1.5 mb) Finally, I'm not on a two year contract, but a 3 year one. The best plan I could get is $70/month and I get 6GB of data + 200 minutes. I see how I'm losing money, but I'm in Canada and the plans here are MUCH worse than in the US.
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Hopefully it will be unlocked from Bell. The Nexus S was, and some people have reported Bell reps saying the Galaxy Nexus will be as well.
You should ask Bell for 6 GB though. I talked to a rep and told him that Rogers was offering me 6 GB for the 500 MB price (unadvertised, but it was all over mobile sites a week or two ago), and asked if Bell could do the same for me if I was signing a 3-year contract. He said they would. It's common for Bell and Rogers to offer the 6 GB at times... ask for it, and if you're signing a 3-year contract you might just get it. Why have only 500 MB if you can get 6 GB for the same price?
Wait, what? A THREE YEAR CONTRACT? I thought 24 months was hard enough!
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Wait, what? A THREE YEAR CONTRACT? I thought 24 months was hard enough!
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It's the unfortunate standard for Canada. The two-year contract price for the GN is $599.99. That's F***ing ridiculous. This is why I decided to let my current contract run out in 15 months and not sign another. It's unlocked phones and the negotiating ability of switching for me now.
I'm also hoping the GN is carrier unlocked, as it should be, from Bell. Since I'm buying it outright anyways, I'll just drop my Telus SIM in and be a happy camper. Otherwise I have to wait until January when Telus and Rogers release it.
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It's the unfortunate standard for Canada. The two-year contract price for the GN is $599.99. That's F***ing ridiculous. This is why I decided to let my current contract run out in 15 months and not sign another. It's unlocked phones and the negotiating ability of switching for me now.
I'm also hoping the GN is carrier unlocked, as it should be, from Bell. Since I'm buying it outright anyways, I'll just drop my Telus SIM in and be a happy camper. Otherwise I have to wait until January when Telus and Rogers release it.
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I can confirm that the Bell GN is unlocked. Just popped a Telus sim in and it worked.
So, I saw the ad for this weekend in chicagoland; free Samsung phones with new service..
After calling 4 stores to confirm that the Gnote2 was included, I have gotten different answers from the stores I called.
Some say it does NOT include the Gnote2, others said it did.
does anyone know for sure if it includes the gnote 2?
thanks!
Check here for some additional info:
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/11/full...-galaxy-note-ii-on-sale-this-weekend-as-well/
No one knows for sure until the promotion starts, but supposedly the Note 2 will be available for a reduced price -- not free.
i asked my friend who works for tmobile as a sales rep and he said note 2 is not included but will be on sale.
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Check here for some additional info:
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/11/full...-galaxy-note-ii-on-sale-this-weekend-as-well/
No one knows for sure until the promotion starts, but supposedly the Note 2 will be available for a reduced price -- not free.
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i asked my friend who works for tmobile as a sales rep and he said note 2 is not included but will be on sale.
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its hard to figure out what the note will actually cost; its once price for the "classic" plan, and another price for the "value" plan..
I guess I should wait until Friday and go into a store to see for sure..
not gonna lie. if it ends up being free or like a 100 bucks after upgrade, im gonna burn my tmobile store down. being a first adopter sucks. lol
yeah, I'm usually the one on the bad end of the stick too...trying to avoid that this time!
I kinda hate to leave ATT after only 8 months, but it will be a pain trying to get one from them for even 299, which, I could sell my note one for, at least, on Ebay...
Plus, developement is still pretty slow for the note 2, and its great for the note one...
I saw the commercial last night, they mentioned just about every Samsung phone except the Note 2.
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its going to be 199 after mail in rebate. If you factor in 3 months till you get your rebate, it still makes sense to get the rebate, pay the 200 dollar migration fee to value and you still save money over the 24 months.
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its going to be 199 after mail in rebate. If you factor in 3 months till you get your rebate, it still makes sense to get the rebate, pay the 200 dollar migration fee to value and you still save money over the 24 months.
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You only save about $40 doing what you are suggesting. The 3 months on a classic plan cost $60 more than a value plan.
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There is a news article on T-mo news' website (i would post the link but since i am a new user, i can't) stating that the note 2 is on sale, but just a different offer from the free after rebate sale that other samsung phone is getting.
And I just asked a sales person at a local t-mobile store in southern california and talked to a customer support on t-mobile's live chat. The store's sales person told me the news is correct and the live chat support didn't deny it either (i didn't ask directly about the sale with the live chat).
However, if you asked anytime earlier than today (i'm assuming anytime before noonish), you might get a different response. This is because the sales person at the store told me that he just received it not too long ago (i went to the store at 3:15pm ish today--nov 14th), so this was new to them as well
I just got off the phone with T-Mobile and the Note 2 is eligible but how this "promotion" works is you pay full pop no matter what phone or contract, and the rest / savings are all mail in rebates... I just bought the Note 2 from Firefly and I think I'm going to save the headache and eat the $100, but that's just my take on it.
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You only save about $40 doing what you are suggesting. The 3 months on a classic plan cost $60 more than a value plan.
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you pay 20 dollars a month extra for 20 months. thats 400 dollars extra on the classic plan as any fool would switch to value after 20 months with no migration fee. you pay 40-60 dollars extra while you stay on the classic plan and wait for the rebate depending on if it takes 2 or 3 months. You pay 200 migration fee. So you save 140-160 dollars.
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you pay 20 dollars a month extra for 20 months. thats 400 dollars extra on the classic plan as any fool would switch to value after 20 months with no migration fee. you pay 40-60 dollars extra while you stay on the classic plan and wait for the rebate depending on if it takes 2 or 3 months. You pay 200 migration fee. So you save 140-160 dollars.
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I mean you only save $40 by buying phone on "classic plan then switching to value plan" vs just buying phone on the value plan from the start.
Does anyone know if the off the contract price will be lower as well?
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Does anyone know if the off the contract price will be lower as well?
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Nope. Actually, off contract went from $650 to $700. Lol
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Nope. Actually, off contract went from $650 to $700. Lol
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That's not really true, that's what I thought as well, but there's still a mail in rebate or you can order from their national number and still get it for $650+tax
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That's not really true, that's what I thought as well, but there's still a mail in rebate or you can order from their national number and still get it for $650+tax
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it is true. they're just making you go through a stupid rebate process now...
lame....
i got offered the phone for $220 (includes $50 rebate) to re-up my contract...
hmmm... gonna call again and see if i can get it for $200 with a contract re-up and then apply the rebate.
lol $150....
An admittedly stupid question, but let's say the Note 2 is part of the deal and one waits til they get the 300 dollar rebate and then take the ETF and switch to prepaid=Note 2 for 200 dollars? Possible? Consequences?
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An admittedly stupid question, but let's say the Note 2 is part of the deal and one waits til they get the 300 dollar rebate and then take the ETF and switch to prepaid=Note 2 for 200 dollars? Possible? Consequences?
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No consequence as long as you pay the etf.
Don't know how you get $200 for note 2 though. Cheapest without including any monthly plans or activation is $400 already.
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No consequence as long as you pay the etf.
Don't know how you get $200 for note 2 though. Cheapest without including any monthly plans or activation is $400 already.
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I think the note 2 is roughly 300 with the unlimited classic plan, which one would get back in the form of a rebate within a couple months if the Note 2 is included in this Friday/Saturday sale. ETF is 200 dollars(since I am on the 30 dollar 5GB prepaid Tmo plan through Walmart with my Gnex and would go back to that with the Note 2), so that's where I pulled the Note 2 for 200 figure from. Just idle thoughts.
T-Mobile announced that in the coming months they will end discounted phones with a contract and go the European way and make you pay retail for any phone yet your monthly bill will go down a lot in price. How do you guys feel about this.?
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Some people will love it, some will hate it. Here in the states, we are spoiled, do the majority will hate it. If it goes too bad, then they'll go back to subsidies. To keep it during hatred, the other companies will do the same. I don't mind as I buy my own phones even when I was in a contract to try the latest phones. Hey, you win some, you lose some
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If they're doing it the way they generally have offered as of late, they may not do a carrier subsidy the way Big Red/Yellow/Blue do, but they'll allow you to do a "handset mortgage", where you can pay a "down payment" when you get the phone and then the loan will be a separate line item until you pay it off, which can be at any point.
I actually prefer this model because it allows you to pay more or less to decrease the amount still owed for your phone and potentially decrease your bill substantially once you're done paying the phone off. It will also allow for quicker upgrades because you won't have to wait two years until your contract rolls around again.
I'm not opposed to this model at all.
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If they're doing it the way they generally have offered as of late, they may not do a carrier subsidy the way Big Red/Yellow/Blue do, but they'll allow you to do a "handset mortgage", where you can pay a "down payment" when you get the phone and then the loan will be a separate line item until you pay it off, which can be at any point.
I actually prefer this model because it allows you to pay more or less to decrease the amount still owed for your phone and potentially decrease your bill substantially once you're done paying the phone off. It will also allow for quicker upgrades because you won't have to wait two years until your contract rolls around again.
I'm not opposed to this model at all.
Joey
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If they offer that. Then I'll be okay with that. But I'm not OK with paying 5-600 dollars for a phone...I got more important things to pay for lol. But then again on the bright side the bill per month is gonna drop sooo much
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I'm in Charlotte, and the store I went to has already gone through this transition. The plan price went down approximately $30. The down-payment was similar to the advertised price for the subsidized phones, and the monthly payments were $20, for twenty months. Overall, I'll pay $550 for phone retailed to cost $599, with a slight savings on the rate plan.
The big savings come after twenty months, when the phone is paid off. I'm not one to upgrade immediately, so I may save money on the rate plan for 6-12 months before buying a new phone. Where before, even if I didn't buy a phone, I was paying the monthly rate that included the subsidy.
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I'm in Charlotte, and the store I went to has already gone through this transition. The plan price went down approximately $30. The down-payment was similar to the advertised price for the subsidized phones, and the monthly payments were $20, for twenty months. Overall, I'll pay $550 for phone retailed to cost $599, with a slight savings on the rate plan.
The big savings come after twenty months, when the phone is paid off. I'm not one to upgrade immediately, so I may save money on the rate plan for 6-12 months before buying a new phone. Where before, even if I didn't buy a phone, I was paying the monthly rate that included the subsidy.
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So u can still get a new phone without paying retail?
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So u can still get a new phone without paying retail?
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Yes and No. ** I do not work for T-Mobile, but this is how I understand things **
EIP has existed for a very long time now and will continue to exist. T-Mobile is simply being upfront with customers instead of building in a subsidy into a rate plan. In almost every case, the customer wins.
Here's one way to look at it. Value Plan + EIP = Classic plan Either way, the upfront costs are similar. In one case, you call it a downpayment, in another you call it a price w/ 2 year contact extension. EIP is typically 20 months, which is better than the 24 months a full blown 2 year extension will be. Again, as far as the initial cost of the phone, the downpayment is essentially equivalent to the previously advertised price of the phone with contract.
This model does a few things from the perspective of a customer. It gives you the option of purchasing phones outright, or opting to get what essentially is a 20 month interest free loan from t-mobile on up to $400 towards the purchase price of a phone. When that loan is paid off, you are left with a nice and small bill for just the services you use, the voice, data, and text services provided by T-Mobile. This opens the door wide open for people to bring unlocked devices over to T-Mobile, and enjoy a low price monthly rate plan. Previously, the best way to do this was to buy an unlocked phone, buy a carrier phone with a 2-year extension, and sell the carrier phone and put that towards the price of the unlocked phone.
This really is a win for pretty much all consumers. People who want a low initial cost can opt for the EIP, people who bring their own devices can choose to do so and enjoy a low monthly rate, and finally people who keep their devices for a long time will enjoy a low rate after they complete their EIP payments.
The only time this is NOT advantageous is if you decide to break the contract prior to the end of the EIP term + value plan contract. For example, if I buy a new phone, start a EIP plan for 20 months, and sign up for a 2 year value plan, I would have to pay a $200 penalty to break the value plan, and also $400 to close out the EIP. Of course, the way to get around this is to sell the phone to repay the EIP.
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T-Mobile announced that in the coming months they will end discounted phones with a contract and go the European way and make you pay retail for any phone yet your monthly bill will go down a lot in price. How do you guys feel about this.?
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as far as i know, t-mobile has already offer $50 contract free service in NYC. that includes 4g network, unlimit calling, texing, web, etc.
I am current simple mobile user, $40 each month, and it is great!
I am sure if ATT, Verizon, don't take any action, most of their customers will walk way.
My contract ends in may...its gonna be a big decision whether I'm gonna leave T-Mobile or not
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About a month ago a tmo rep told me they are doing this soon.
O well doesn't bother me lol
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Yeah its not all that new . Tmobile has been allowing people to break up their payments since they announced their even more plus plans. I think its a great option in present times for those that can't afford to fork out 500$ in one transaction.
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They already have offered this its called the "Value Plans", as apposed to the "Classic Plans" the value plans are only offered at t-mobile stores and since sept they have offered a truly unlimited data option on the value plan. thats the plan i have been on since i joined t-mobile in sept. the gs3 for me was 149.99 down with $20 for 20 months. (549.99) and my rate plan is 69.99 for unlimited everything. The one thing i dont like about the value plan is that even though you are paying full price for your phone in the end you are still on a 2 year contract with $200 early termination fee. and if you dont use all the minutes and want to lower your bill thats a whole new 2 year contract. T-mobile really shouldnt due that to its customers.
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They already have offered this its called the "Value Plans", as apposed to the "Classic Plans" the value plans are only offered at t-mobile stores and since sept they have offered a truly unlimited data option on the value plan. thats the plan i have been on since i joined t-mobile in sept. the gs3 for me was 149.99 down with $20 for 20 months. (549.99) and my rate plan is 69.99 for unlimited everything. The one thing i dont like about the value plan is that even though you are paying full price for your phone in the end you are still on a 2 year contract with $200 early termination fee. and if you dont use all the minutes and want to lower your bill thats a whole new 2 year contract. T-mobile really shouldnt due that to its customers.
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Well to be honest they kinda have to keep that early termination fee, because basically if they don't what's to keep you from leaving after you only payed 149.99 for a 800 phone. Even if you still decide to leave you only end up paying about 350. 200 fee plus the 150 you put down. This is coming from a guy who really dislike tmobile I'm just with them because I almost don't pay anything on a 5 line account. Really there's not much difference between classic and value when it comes to buying a phone both tie you to a 2 year contract and early fee.
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Isn't this pretty much the same thing as their Value Plan they've had for some time now? I've been on that plan for a bit over a year now. For me, the plus side is that over the course of a two year period, I'll end up saving roughly $1200 for two lines compared to my previous plan with everything unlimited.
The downside is of course the unsubsidized pricing of all the phones...completely ineligible for any special promotions, as well. If T-Mobile keeps that same plan model, people may find themselves paying for multiple devices at a time if they run into mishaps (theft, damage, etc.). Even with insurance, you'll pay a pretty penny for a replacement but will still be responsible for paying off the original. This would be a big adjustment for a lot of people in many ways, not just financially.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Edit: Chuck beat me to it LoL. I'm so not used to typing novel-length msgs on a mobile xD
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So how the phone insurance will work, will tmobile offer this option I doubt. I'm not referring manufacturer 1 year but long term one.
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So how the phone insurance will work, will tmobile offer this option I doubt. I'm not referring manufacturer 1 year but long term one.
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Good question
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ddizzy81 said:
If they offer that. Then I'll be okay with that. But I'm not OK with paying 5-600 dollars for a phone...I got more important things to pay for lol. But then again on the bright side the bill per month is gonna drop sooo much
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LOL...pay now, pay later. do the math. if youre on a classic plan, you still pay full price for the phone, you just pay for it a little a time added onto your monthly bill. so, you are okay with paying 5-600 dollars for a phone...
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So how the phone insurance will work, will tmobile offer this option I doubt. I'm not referring manufacturer 1 year but long term one.
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Don't see why they would stop offering the extended insurance. If you're going to be paying for you're phone for 2 years you might as well have insurance that also extends the warranty for that long.
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The downside is of course the unsubsidized pricing of all the phones...completely ineligible for any special promotions, as well. If T-Mobile keeps that same plan model, people may find themselves paying for multiple devices at a time if they run into mishaps (theft, damage, etc.). Even with insurance, you'll pay a pretty penny for a replacement but will still be responsible for paying off the original. This would be a big adjustment for a lot of people in many ways, not just financially.
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Actually the promos DO apply. The last sale was a zero down sale, so you get your down payment back as a rebate. So instead of a $600 phone it's only $400. It's no different than a free phone with a higher monthly payment.
I haven't had a plan for years. If you look you can find a deal on craigslist sometimes ebay
Anyone find any 3rd party vendors that sell this phone really cheap? I got an upgrade due.
99 dollars down at tmobile.
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99 dollars down at tmobile.
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What they fail to tell you is thats on good credit not even just decent credit highest down is 329 for phone plus whatever deposit is for line.... lowest is 99 for phone.. trust me unless u got grade a/b credit your spending 200-500 in store before u walk out.
They raised the credit criteria, but dont want u to realize that.
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What they fail to tell you is thats on good credit not even just decent credit highest down is 329 for phone plus whatever deposit is for line.... lowest is 99 for phone.. trust me unless u got grade a/b credit your spending 200-500 in store before u walk out.
They raised the credit criteria, but dont want u to realize that.
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Still, the total price for the device is $579. If they charge a bigger deposit then you either pay less than $20 per month or you pay $20 a month for fewer months. I'm not sure how they do it but either way you're only paying $579 plus applicable taxes in total.
There is always extra monthly fees when you buy phones from tmobile.
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There is always extra monthly fees when you buy phones from tmobile.
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taxes on top of the cost of the phone maybe?
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Still, the total price for the device is $579. If they charge a bigger deposit then you either pay less than $20 per month or you pay $20 a month for fewer months. I'm not sure how they do it but either way you're only paying $579 plus applicable taxes in total.
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I know the total price ia 579 I know that I bought a s4 on post paid I make eip payments, I was just quoting. .. that if its the amount of money that is needed down thats the concern, be aware that at worst its 329 down as the highest amount possible but yea with the 12.50 extra on top of bill theres also a possibility of a down payment needed for the line itself also, so if u ad the line deposit and the phone deposit it easily adds up well past 99$
So I was trying to help the OP know that its very possible without grade a/b credit plan to pay 200-500 for both deposits combined. ... before u even walk away with the phone on a new postpaid line...thus making the whole experience of the advertising 99 down a a complete let down once u actually get there and deal with it
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taxes on top of the cost of the phone maybe?
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Taxes are mandatory paid once u pay the phone and line deposits.... they are put out of the way rite then and there..the remainder is the evem dollar amount eip Payments left on the phones total cost minus the taxes u just paid.
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Costco has it for around $150 with a two year extension. They throw in some accessories too
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Yes, I think the best price is Costco, for $150, at least for the next couple of days.
However, they have the S3 for $0 (only pay taxes).
Is the S4 worth paying $150 more than the S3? Your opinion?
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Yes, I think the best price is Costco, for $150, at least for the next couple of days.
However, they have the S3 for $0 (only pay taxes).
Is the S4 worth paying $150 more than the S3? Your opinion?
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Yes and no...
It depends on your dying need for a s4
Biggest diff is camera and home button feels nicer the built in gestures I don't even use that stuff.Speaker is was louder also.
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Yes and no...
It depends on your dying need for a s4
Biggest diff is camera and home button feels nicer the built in gestures I don't even use that stuff.Speaker is was louder also.
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And the LTE. Better speeds for my tethering use.
and processor and screen and phones shape :good:
something else to consider:
Costco and a few other vendors are the last to support subsidized upgrades on t-mobile. Noone knows how long this will remain true. Which phone would you rather hold on to if you decide to stick with t-mobile, but never again have a low-cost upgrade available?
I've had a tmo family plan for over 10 years (started with omnipoint) and had spaced my upgrades out so every 6 months there was a new phone in the mix. With the rotation, I was comfortable getting last year's hot handset for free instead of plunking for the new models. This year I'm upgrading them all to the latest and greatest as soon as they're qualified.
And to the OP: Costco $150 plus some accessories is the best deal i've been able to fine since the S4 launch. There may be some better deals come Independence Day,
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something else to consider:
Costco and a few other vendors are the last to support subsidized upgrades on t-mobile. Noone knows how long this will remain true. Which phone would you rather hold on to if you decide to stick with t-mobile, but never again have a low-cost upgrade available?
I've had a tmo family plan for over 10 years (started with omnipoint) and had spaced my upgrades out so every 6 months there was a new phone in the mix. With the rotation, I was comfortable getting last year's hot handset for free instead of plunking for the new models. This year I'm upgrading them all to the latest and greatest as soon as they're qualified.
And to the OP: Costco $150 plus some accessories is the best deal i've been able to fine since the S4 launch. There may be some better deals come Independence Day,
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How is Costco a deal? They are charging $149.99 for the phone, but they then charge you $90.00 a month instead of T-Mobile charging you $70.00 a month for the 2 years of the Costco contract.
$20.00 X 24 = $480.00
$480 + $149.99 = $629.99
This is the SAME as buying it from T-Mobile, but you are stuck with a 2 year contract from Costco.
They also through in a cheap case that you can get on Amazon for $4 or $5.00
Am I missing something here? Costco does NOT look like a good deal at all!
If I wasn't clear above, T-Mobile charges $70.00 a month for unlimited everything. Costco charges you $90.00 for the same plan.
Ebay 480. Craigslist 480.
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Mr Global said:
How is Costco a deal? They are charging $149.99 for the phone, but they then charge you $90.00 a month instead of T-Mobile charging you $70.00 a month for the 2 years of the Costco contract.
$20.00 X 24 = $480.00
$480 + $149.99 = $629.99
This is the SAME as buying it from T-Mobile, but you are stuck with a 2 year contract from Costco.
They also through in a cheap case that you can get on Amazon for $4 or $5.00
Am I missing something here? Costco does NOT look like a good deal at all!
If I wasn't clear above, T-Mobile charges $70.00 a month for unlimited everything. Costco charges you $90.00 for the same plan.
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Costco also honors your legacy plans which are no longer offered, which T-mobile will let you keep but still not subsidize your phone. Here's my bill:
$80 - 2000 (we never go over, full unlimited available for $100) minutes and text, family plan, 2 lines
$10 - extra 2 lines @ $5
$80 - 4 unlimited data plans @ $20
$10 - family discounted international rates (not transferable to new plans, only available as a per line add-on)
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$180 / month + taxes and international calls - corporate discounts
+$600 + taxes - 4 S4s @ $150
New Value Family Plan:
$80 - unlimited family plan, 2 lines
$20 - extra 2 lines @ $10
$80 - 4 unlimited data plans @ $20
$28 - 4 discounted international rates @ $7
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$208 / month
+ $80 - 4 S4s @ $20
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$288 / month + taxes and international calls - corporate discounts
+$400 + taxes - 4 S4s down payment @100
I save money because of my options, and break even just on the base.
99 down at T-Mobile
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