Best Kernal and Rom for Music? - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II

I have a US model Note II T-mo.
What's the best thing you did to make your Note II sound better?

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JosephL said:
I have a US model Note II T-mo.
What's the best thing you did to make your Note II sound better?
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Not sure on the kernel but the rom the jedi ones come with a walkman app and awesome beats. Beats works with the walkman app so you can enhance the sound. It doesnt work with pandora though. Ive only had it a couple days on my phone and plaued around with it a bit.

is your phone rooted?
if not, DL the equlaizer app or the nooxoziede eizo rewire from the play store.
if it is rooted, you have a number of sound enhancement mods that you can flash. Just do a search for rezound, DSP manager, awesome beats,
acid audio engine, kingbeatz, SRS WOW mods, beats, etc

I'm rooted.
Thanks. I just want to make sure I don't flash something not made for this phone. I don't have the international version of the 7100. I use odin to flash and don't want my phone to show modified (so I can't get t-mobile updates).
Given all that criteria, what would you suggest?

I've tried various mods and none will work.
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power amp works great,its in the playstore, maybe one day we will get voodoo sound

JosephL said:
I'm rooted.
Thanks. I just want to make sure I don't flash something not made for this phone. I don't have the international version of the 7100. I use odin to flash and don't want my phone to show modified (so I can't get t-mobile updates).
Given all that criteria, what would you suggest?
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First off
1. Always do a nandroid backup, if somethiing messes up you can always flash back to your backup and start again.
2. I will download the free equalizer app and also pay for the license key, with out the license key. it doesn't do anything.
3. Play with it for a awhile.
4. once your feedup with it, download the nooxoziede eizo rewire, it's a really cool sound enhancement app.
5. Then you can be more experimental, flash the mods like acid audio engines, universal mods like kingbeatz, etc
I've been using Jedi X7.2 rom, the awesome beats and the walkman app is built in, it's plays well with universal sound enhancement mods.
Got alot of sound enhancement mods in it, but I like the way it sounds now. But the sound is stil in the bright side, I am looking for the warm sound. I had the S2 before the note, it was able to achieve the warm sound. It is said that the note2 has a better DAC than the S2, but I think it has a bright sound, than the S2.
Also if you want a good music app, try the lesser known maven 3D sunset player , it's preset "xome1" is really good. Some like the poweramp player. I was with poweramp during my vibrant days and I flash the voodoo sound mod to make it better. If you want to tweak with the sound try the neutron music player. You really have to set it up correctly to get the best out of it. The trial period is only about an hour or two, then you'll have to buy the app. It's about $5, but I think it is worth it.
This is my 2 cents.

tomasitoc said:
First off
1. Always do a nandroid backup, if somethiing messes up you can always flash back to your backup and start again.
2. I will download the free equalizer app and also pay for the license key, with out the license key. it doesn't do anything.
3. Play with it for a awhile.
4. once your feedup with it, download the nooxoziede eizo rewire, it's a really cool sound enhancement app.
5. Then you can be more experimental, flash the mods like acid audio engines, universal mods like kingbeatz, etc
I've been using Jedi X7.2 rom, the awesome beats and the walkman app is built in, it's plays well with universal sound enhancement mods.
Got alot of sound enhancement mods in it, but I like the way it sounds now. But the sound is stil in the bright side, I am looking for the warm sound. I had the S2 before the note, it was able to achieve the warm sound. It is said that the note2 has a better DAC than the S2, but I think it has a bright sound, than the S2.
Also if you want a good music app, try the lesser known maven 3D sunset player , it's preset "xome1" is really good. Some like the poweramp player. I was with poweramp during my vibrant days and I flash the voodoo sound mod to make it better. If you want to tweak with the sound try the neutron music player. You really have to set it up correctly to get the best out of it. The trial period is only about an hour or two, then you'll have to buy the app. It's about $5, but I think it is worth it.
This is my 2 cents.
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Thank you.
I have poweramp, I bought it. I think I have tried every player except 3d maven. I just tried that this morning and I'm surprised how well it sounds. It rivals poweramp from what I can tell at a quick listen and works with nooxoziede for another layer of customization.
Yes the Note II has the wolfson DAC, like the S3. I had the S2 and the Note II sounds better IMO. Samsung left the Wolfson DAC out of the original Note and people complained. Samsung heard them and put the S3 DAC in the Note II. Some have said it's not the optimal execution for the Note II and say the S3 is a better music player. Some people will find fault in anything.
Supercurio owns a Note II from what I understand so there may be a Voodoo sound port somewhere down the line.
I agree you on Neutron. Behind poweramp it sounded the best when I tested everything I could find. Maven may have taken that #2 spot.
I think with nooxoziede and either PAmp or Maven I should be able to get all the custom sound I want. Too many choices are not a good thing.
I'm rooted but running stock. I need my phone to work 100% and get T-mo updates. I want my Note II to sound better but not at any price.

JosephL said:
Thank you.
I have poweramp, I bought it. I think I have tried every player except 3d maven. I just tried that this morning and I'm surprised how well it sounds. It rivals poweramp from what I can tell at a quick listen and works with nooxoziede for another layer of customization.
Yes the Note II has the wolfson DAC, like the S3. I had the S2 and the Note II sounds better IMO. Samsung left the Wolfson DAC out of the original Note and people complained. Samsung heard them and put the S3 DAC in the Note II. Some have said it's not the optimal execution for the Note II and say the S3 is a better music player. Some people will find fault in anything.
Supercurio owns a Note II from what I understand so there may be a Voodoo sound port somewhere down the line.
I agree you on Neutron. Behind poweramp it sounded the best when I tested everything I could find. Maven may have taken that #2 spot.
I think with nooxoziede and either PAmp or Maven I should be able to get all the custom sound I want. Too many choices are not a good thing.
I'm rooted but running stock. I need my phone to work 100% and get T-mo updates. I want my Note II to sound better but not at any price.
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If ever supercurio releases a voodoo sound, would it work with the stock t-mobile kernel?, From what I remember back when I was using the vibrant. I can only flash the voodoo sound
on a kernel that supported it. I communicated with ptmr3 the person who created the jedi series rom. He said he will look into the voodoo sound
if ever you come across a sound enhancement mod that is good, let me know
Merry Christmas

tomasitoc said:
if ever you come across a sound enhancement mod that is good, let me know
Merry Christmas
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There is scooby doo in the redpill Kernal but nothing for our T-Mo phones other than this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960935&page=1

JosephL said:
There is scooby doo in the redpill Kernal but nothing for our T-Mo phones other than this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960935&page=1
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I don't see scooby doo or the redpill kernel in the link, what does it do?

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Stable Beats Audio for Jelly Bean HTC One X?

Hey folks. So I recently installed a JB ROM from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796340
Works greats, but the only problem that is I've lost the Beats Audio driver which came with Sense 4.0 and I'd quite like it back.
I tried this one here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motioncoding.beats&hl=en
which worked perfectly to begin with, but shortly after my system became completely unstable with apps constantly crashing, forcing me to wipe my phone and start over.
So does anyone know of a solution to this? Or am I just gonna have to wait a while for a stable release, given how new Jelly Bean is?
Thanks,
PS>If any of this sounds noobish, that would be because I actually am new to all this.
nomis101uk said:
Hey folks. So I recently installed a JB ROM from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796340
Works greats, but the only problem that is I've lost the Beats Audio driver which came with Sense 4.0 and I'd quite like it back.
I tried this one here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motioncoding.beats&hl=en
which worked perfectly to begin with, but shortly after my system became completely unstable with apps constantly crashing, forcing me to wipe my phone and start over.
So does anyone know of a solution to this? Or am I just gonna have to wait a while for a stable release, given how new Jelly Bean is?
Thanks,
PS>If any of this sounds noobish, that would be because I actually am new to all this.
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Beats Audio is prepared for Sense... And IceColdJelly is completely NonSense ROM. You have to make a decision:
1. Beats audio with any Sense ROM (Stock or Custom)
2. IceColdJelly without Beats Audio.
That's all....
If you want IceCOldJelly.... Just reflash the ROM. It will be OK, I guess.
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Beats Audio is prepared for Sense... And IceColdJelly is completely NonSense ROM. You have to make a decision:
1. Beats audio with any Sense ROM (Stock or Custom)
2. IceColdJelly without Beats Audio.
That's all....
If you want IceCOldJelly.... Just reflash the ROM. It will be OK, I guess.
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Really? That sucks :crying: Other people seem to have had have luck on non-Sense phones, based on the reviews of the app I linked to. But in that case, I'll stick with Jelly Bean. HTC will be updating the One X eventually anyway...
Try this..it replaces lib files and installs custom dsp manager..its the nearest i can get to beats..i m running it on cm10 tho..
http://db.tt/4PxCCvPG
Its flashable zip file..
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flash infinity's onextram sound enhancer mod
Since Beats audio really doesn't improve anything but the bass, cant you get the same result with an eq?
Power amp app is all you need.
Use this mod linked below (be sure to make a nandroid backup before you flash it). It has beats audio and a lot of other mods as well that you can select while installing the mod.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1692233
The sound with the latest version (14) is pretty good and offers beats audio from Rezound.
Use it with a player like DoubleTwist or PowerAmp which has it's own equalizer, and you can get great audio quality on your music.
Also, System wide sound equalizers and DSP manager doesn't seem to have any effect on the sound on AOSP based ROMs.
Beats audio is effectively dynamic EQ, little more. Unlike a static EQ, it's trying to EQ based on 'beats'. At a very crude level, it's boosting certain frequencies when they are needed... e.g Bass on a musical 'beat' / peak. It's a little more complex than that - it's signal processing similar to an 'exciter'.
You can get comparable results with a decent EQ app (I use PlayerPro) although EQ in this form is static and not dynamic, but Beats Audio 'just works' for almost all apps.
It's also branded and hyped to high heaven - to make it seem like some amazing feature.
Lets us not forgets, we've had HTC trying this with SRS and Dolby too...
One final thing to remember - making something sound 'better' doesn't mean it's making it more accurate! usually it's the opposite. Most users will be playing 128K mp3 files so it's hardly surprising they feel the sound lacks a little depth.
Thanks for the replies guys. I'll try the One eXtreme Sound Enhancer tomorrow and report back after a trial run.
And yeah, I am aware that Beats Audio is nothing more than a glorified dynamic EQ that's hyped marketed up the **** to appeal to people who have no idea about music production, and who think that Mr. Dre (he's not a doctor...) can magically dip his fingers into your MP3 and enhance the production values of the original master. Like trying to tickle somebody in a photograph...But it does the job very well so I'll forgive the hype.
nomis101uk said:
Thanks for the replies guys. I'll try the One eXtreme Sound Enhancer tomorrow and report back after a trial run.
And yeah, I am aware that Beats Audio is nothing more than a glorified dynamic EQ that's hyped marketed up the **** to appeal to people who have no idea about music production, and who think that Mr. Dre (he's not a doctor...) can magically dip his fingers into your MP3 and enhance the production values of the original master. Like trying to tickle somebody in a photograph...But it does the job very well so I'll forgive the hype.
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Works like a charm. No stability issues. Much better sound.
nomis101uk said:
Thanks for the replies guys. I'll try the One eXtreme Sound Enhancer tomorrow and report back after a trial run.
And yeah, I am aware that Beats Audio is nothing more than a glorified dynamic EQ that's hyped marketed up the **** to appeal to people who have no idea about music production, and who think that Mr. Dre (he's not a doctor...) can magically dip his fingers into your MP3 and enhance the production values of the original master. Like trying to tickle somebody in a photograph...But it does the job very well so I'll forgive the hype.
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If you can't have it with nonsense rom, you don't need to bash the product..as far as I'm concern, Beats Audio is very good..

[Q] Best audio mods for Note 2?

Me myself and I are running Android Revolution HD 6.0 with Perseus 29 kernel on my grey Note 2. With this perseus kernel you have a few audio options through sTweaks but I can't get my 24bit 96Khz FLACS sound like I would like to.. The bass keeps sounding a little woozy.. I would like to have cleaner bass and a little more detailed mids.
I am doing my listening test with 3 pairs of headphones (Stock Samsung earphones, B&W C5 in-earphones and cheapass Sehnheiser HD201 headphones)
I am using different albums for my test containing: Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon, Michael Jackson - Thriller, Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid, Beatles - Love. These albums are all 24 bits and 88.2Khz or 96khz and played with Neutron Music Player.
Mods and apps I tried:
AC!D (works but better without stweaks.. stweaks seems to overrule some stuff wich results in distortion)
Awesome Beats (doesn't seem to work on my rom and kernel)
Neutron Music Player (Fine player with some nice audiophile options but poor interface)
Sony Walkman Player (Doesn't want to install)
sTweaks (Haven't found right settings for it yet and I don't want it to interfere with AC!D)
The problem is them interfering with each other.. I think AC!D does a fine job but its interfering witch sTweaks I guess.. Still some sort of distortion.
What do you run on your Note 2 to get the purest audiophile possible sound out of it? Please also note what rom and kernel you are running not every mod is compatible with every rom or kernel.
Have you tried installing Beats audio Installer [ROOT] from the Play store it helped my sound alot make sure you make a nand backup though you cant un install it.
What rom and kernel are you running this Beats installer on?
Im using omega 8.0 rom with the acid mod installed and sony walkmann player. im only using stock headphone atm but the sound is great on them.
Ive included in the post the sony walkman app that works with my note 2 and the acid mod which needs to be flashed via cwm. If this helps please hit the thanks button.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056415
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Im using omega 8.0 rom with the acid mod installed and sony walkmann player. im only using stock headphone atm but the sound is great on them.
Ive included in the post the sony walkman app that works with my note 2 and the acid mod which needs to be flashed via cwm. If this helps please hit the thanks button.
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I don;t know how you find it, but I used this for a while then uninstalled as was draining my battery too quickly. Walkman standalone fine, but not with the mod. However Beats worked well with Walkman.
In my mind there is currently no doubt which kernel has the best wolfson mod: neak. It's a combination of scoobydoo and another mod whose name escapes me.
Perhaps its bass frequency tuning will remedy some of your issues. The mids are also more pronounced when using dac direct in my opinion.
All these software mods never impressed me, no offense to anyone.
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adytum said:
In my mind there is currently no doubt which kernel has the best wolfson mod: neak. It's a combination of scoobydoo and another mod whose name escapes me.
Perhaps its bass frequency tuning will remedy some of your issues. The mids are also more pronounced when using dac direct in my opinion.
All these software mods never impressed me, no offense to anyone.
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Would you please comment on the ability to control the headphone amplifier and the Media Volume independently like could be performed on the SGS with Voodoo Sound? I don't have a Note 2 yet--- one of my main purchasing decisions is based on the ability to use Scoobydoo/STweaks to control the headphone amplifier volume independently. Thanks in advance.
xdadevnube said:
Would you please comment on the ability to control the headphone amplifier and the Media Volume independently like could be performed on the SGS with Voodoo Sound? I don't have a Note 2 yet--- one of my main purchasing decisions is based on the ability to use Scoobydoo/STweaks to control the headphone amplifier volume independently. Thanks in advance.
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Yes, sort of, in neak there is a volume hack similar to the one in voodoo, which makes you able to override the channel volume, so that the end result is about the same as with voodoo.
Your situation sounds very much like mine, I came from the sgs and took a leap of faith hoping that some voodoo mod would arise at some point, and it did! :thumbup:
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Interesting, I suppose I will have to see how development for the Verizon variant goes. Hopefully, I will be able to find a way to get Scooby/STweaks working like Voodoo. It is hard to try until I get the device, but my upgrade is at the end of the week!
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In case anybody cares, Perseus kernel with Stweaks allows to independently control headphone amplifier volume and media volume. It is essentially the same features as Voodoo, but without the Voodoo app. It is under the Audio section of Stweaks.
Awesome!
ok i got a pair f beats solo and they are overwellmed if i turn up the volume all the way up ... and i was able to do that by frst rooting my device and flashing UNEAK kernel it comes with wolfson audio and just go to play store and download uNEAK engine app and you will have close to pc sound out of your note 2 just make sure your headphones can handle the power your phone will put out .. like i said i got a pair of solos that cant keep up .. its time to upgrade my headphones ... power amp player is a good player too alot of otions but love the MUSIC SQUARE FEATURE ON STOCK PLAYER

[Guide] Optimal Galaxy Nexus Audio Setup

Disclaimer: I am not a developer and have no rights or claim to any of the files listed below. I only use them to "Rock Out"
Like many of you I have struggled with the lack luster audio output of the Galaxy Nexus. Nearly a year later and much has been done to correct this. I was using Volume + for a while before upgrading to 4.2.1 which broke its functionality and limited the effect it had on my audio output. There are two formidable modifications out right now that will take your GNex to the next level but because they are similar in functionality I will discuss the one that provides the most merged features.
Before you get started please ensure that you have rooted your phone, have an updated custom recovery such as TWRP or CWM. I will not tell you which Kernel to use, however I will tell you that I have this 100% working on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus using AOKP 4.2.1 or AOKP MR1 BuildX. The MOD developers also state that it is confirmed working for the Galaxy Nexus 4.2.1 (AOKP) I do not know if any other ROM will work with this phone.
The MOD is called Ac!d Audio Engine which combines Beats Drivers found in some HTC phones with other sound engines such as Sony's Xlouder, Dolby, etc... There is another thread for the mod that I will link below. You can go there and read/download the MOD and I will give you a brief description below on initial setup.
Before installing this please make a full backup of you Galaxy Nexus. Even though this works for most phones it is also ROM dependent. With that in mind make a backup please. Coming from any other ROM or Version of AOKP you must do a FULL WIPE!!!! I would also download each component and upload to your phones internal SD before you run through the steps. This way you can install them all one after another and not have to wait for your phone to optimize applications multiple times.
Step 1 - Please visit http://aokp.co/release-jb-mr1-build-2/
Download the version or this for your phone. Like many developers they list the phones as the code name for instance VZN is Toro.
Install this using the latest version of CWM or TWRP. I realize most people get really attached to ROM developers and stick with them. I will promise you that this is totally worth trying for the sound improvement not only in quality but shear DB gain.
Wipe Dalvik
Step 2 - Install the version of GAPPS listed on the AOKP website. Remember that as this thread ages the ROM could change as well as GAPPS.
Wipe Dalvik
Step 3 (Optional) - Install your favorite Kernel. As long as it is verified for JB 4.2.1 it should work. I use LeanKernel (not tested on GSM) you can get that form here: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13092-kernel-leankernel-minimalistic-kernel-48-58-12313/
Wipe Dalvik
Step 4: Install the Ac!d Audio Engine found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923630
Wipe Dalvik
Also Important download the Ac!d Noozoxide or Ac!d Awesome Beats appllication and flash as well. It is possible against the Dev's advice to install both of them. As long as you remember not to configure them both you should not get any audio issues. I tend to uninstall them via the standard app drawer if I want to switch and reinstall them later should I want to switch back.
Once installed bootup, go to settings, sound, music effects and choose the DSP you want to use either Awesome Beats or Noozoxide. Next open up a music player such as Google Music and start your favorite tune. Next open the application drawer and choose the DSP you installed to open. Tweak headphones first. Inside the application you will notice immediate change by enabling the equalizer and editing the sliders. Please note that depending on the quality of your headphones these values may need to be lower than expected to get rid of rattling or audio anomalies. The other two tweakable settings are for build in speaker and bluetooth audio output.
From my experience Awesome Beats is configurable louder however that introduces artifacts into your music if it crosses the thresh hold that your headphones can handle. Noozoxide has a few different filters and is easier to tweak. The reason I say to use either one of these is because sounds across you the entire phone are improved and louder; Calls, notifications, other player apps like Pandora etc.
I hope anyone who views this gives it a try. I wanted to wait until AOKP 4.2.1 had matured past build one to give everyone a smoother experience. Also this will push your phones DAC much harder. Certain kinds of headphones such as over ear (50mm +) couldn't really be driven hard prior to this MOD but now they can so you may experience additional battery drain if not using smaller ear buds. If you love music like I do most people will make this sacrifice.
Here is a video of an installation and tweaking of a Galaxy S3. The Galaxy Nexus will be similar once the files have been flashed and you can tweak your audio settings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pkmnKN-r9Y
Please let me know if you find this useful and hopefully you fall back in love with your phone all over again. :highfive::victory:
P.S. I really love wiping my Dalvik
Thanks, Joe.
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Much thanks for this, very useful
Rom Compatibility
Has anyone tried the Ac!d Audio mod with a different Rom or AOKP nightly? I will edit my OP if anyone can confirm success.
jrgilbert79 said:
Has anyone tried the Ac!d Audio mod with a different Rom or AOKP nightly? I will edit my OP if anyone can confirm success.
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n0ve said:
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Hey that's great news which ROM/ Kernel combination are you using with Ac!d Audio?
I'm running CM 10.1 M1. I'll try this out later tonight when I get the chance and let you know if it works. Thanks for doing the work!
Working on my HP Touchpad
falconoble said:
I'm running CM 10.1 M1. I'll try this out later tonight when I get the chance and let you know if it works. Thanks for doing the work!
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I installed this after I updated my tenderloin to the latest CM 9 to the latest nighty. The first couple of flashes played the initial sounds but as soon as I plugged in headphones all sounds we failed to play. I simply dirty flashed the ROM a few times including the MOD until I turned off the ac!d audio notifications. Afterward I changed my dsp to Noozoxide and it worked perfectly. Strangely though the audio filters work and sound great but it still cannot compare to WebOS volume wise. This to me is proof that the driver choice is everything because the Touchpad has the better audio hardware than most mobile/tablet. Didn't want to stray from the Galaxy Nexus discussion but this could be viable for the GNex on CM 9+ or ICS in general.
jrgilbert79 said:
I installed this after I updated my tenderloin to the latest CM 9 to the latest nighty. The first couple of flashes played the initial sounds but as soon as I plugged in headphones all sounds we failed to play. I simply dirty flashed the ROM a few times including the MOD until I turned off the ac!d audio notifications. Afterward I changed my dsp to Noozoxide and it worked perfectly. Strangely though the audio filters work and sound great but it still cannot compare to WebOS volume wise. This to me is proof that the driver choice is everything because the Touchpad has the better audio hardware than most mobile/tablet. Didn't want to stray from the Galaxy Nexus discussion but this could be viable for the GNex on CM 9+ or ICS in general.
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You're suggesting then that I install Noozoxide and not bother with AC!D Audio?
falconoble said:
You're suggesting then that I install Noozoxide and not bother with AC!D Audio?
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No I flashed the ROM with the ac!d audio mod. I also chose noozoxide as the DSP but with CM you could try the included DSP it is identical to the awesome beats DSP. With ac!d audio you really need an equalizer to utilize the drivers. Even if you leave it flat you can at least get a dB gain.
I recall supercurio saying something along the lines of these not actually improving audio performance in measurements and such. I've looked at these before but I sceptical.... anyone have actual measure of improved performance and not just placebo?
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I do not know if the audio drivers/ engine components are Placebo or not. What I do know is that my phone plays very deep bass and sounds great afterward. This might only be attributed to the DSP but I can tell you that Music FX is a terrible DSP and Volume+ stopped working with 4.2.1. So anything I can do to be satisfied with sounds is better than listening to SuperCurio debunk things with no proof. Is it better than DSP manager that comes with CM? I do not know.But if you can make a backup and it doesn't break your phone I also cant say there's any reason for skepticism.
acid works great with pa so far. flashed yesterday and havent had any issues when i've played over speaker or headphone port. Better then DSP manger... meh i can still crank up the bass when i am feelin in the mood and sounds great.
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I do not know if the audio drivers/ engine components are Placebo or not. What I do know is that my phone plays very deep bass and sounds great afterward. This might only be attributed to the DSP but I can tell you that Music FX is a terrible DSP and Volume+ stopped working with 4.2.1. So anything I can do to be satisfied with sounds is better than listening to SuperCurio debunk things with no proof. Is it better than DSP manager that comes with CM? I do not know.But if you can make a backup and it doesn't break your phone I also cant say there's any reason for skepticism.
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You want to believe you experiencing a placebo effect than supercurio, who provides scientific facts?
jrgilbert79 said:
No I flashed the ROM with the ac!d audio mod. I also chose noozoxide as the DSP but with CM you could try the included DSP it is identical to the awesome beats DSP. With ac!d audio you really need an equalizer to utilize the drivers. Even if you leave it flat you can at least get a dB gain.
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Yeah, on 10.1 I couldn't get either Noozoxide or AC!D Awesome Beats to kick in. Only the default DSP packed with CM worked. I tried it through my IEMs and my car. Though, yeah, even that was noticeably better.
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You want to believe you experiencing a placebo effect than supercurio, who provides BNFLscientific facts?
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Why dont you post some of this science? Every idiot knows that a DSP is a valuable tool... Which is what I said. Why are you proverbially blowing supercurio? I understand if he's butthurt cause not every Hw manufacturer uses wolfsen as the DAC hense voodoo audio doesn't work. Cause here you come to defend his honor in a thread that you don't belong in... Sorry truth sucks. Now stop being a flaming troll. You will be slapped down every time in my thread...
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Yeah, on 10.1 I couldn't get either Noozoxide or AC!D Awesome Beats to kick in. Only the default DSP packed with CM worked. I tried it through my IEMs and my car. Though, yeah, even that was noticeably better.
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I'm sorry that it doesn't work. It could be possible that cm 10.1 only works with built in DSP. It does work with aokp and paranoid android though which are both 4.2.1. So much for placebo though if even the packaged DSP manager was better... Granted. I suppose drivers actually make a difference despite what people who havn't tried it believe. Because the DSP is just an equalizer. The drivers are what improve the DAC performance.
P.S. I trust a curio to hold my TV in my bedroom not to tell me about what works on my phone.

Poweramp bass?

Does anyone feel like poweramps bass is always too strong or is it just me? I've been usingpoweramp for a very long time and my equalizer is set to how I like it but lately even with all the bass settings to the lowest, bass is always too strong and it messes up the song. I thought it was my headphones but when I connected my phone to my car which also has an equalizer saved specifically for it the bass was too powerful. I just tried apollo and it seems to be a lot better. Is anyone else having problems with poweramp bass?
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Poweramp seems to be working fine for me.
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custom rom / kernel = voodoo sound
you could try going a different route for bass... voodoo sound, if you haven't already.
we have one of the best sound chips for any phone in our Epic 4g's, and it can use a special kernel-level sound driver, voodoo sound.
for voodoo sound to work, you need to run a voodoo sound enabled kernel (effsi makes one, compatible with CM 10.1 and/or slim rom, the two best Epic roms IMHO.
then with that in place, you can run voodoo sound (free) from play store. it has a bass adjustment setting that works at the kernel level, so applies to all programs I believe, and in a different way then regular EQ like in poweramp.
BTW, another program to check out for audio that is supposed to make MP3 sound better, by using more CPU to over/extra sample, is Neutron MP. I can hear a noticable difference playing music through it, and bought the pay version. I am on monster turbines, with custom fit made earplugs from Radians custom mold plastic ($10, google).
Ya I'm pretty sure poweramp has something to do with it because I tested it on my cousins epic who had the same bass problem as me with his headphones and regular speaker and apollo doesn't have a blown out bass or the disorted sound.
I already use voodoo and know that it effecs my headphones but I understand what the problem that I'm having is. I'm pretty sure poweramp is my problem but I'm not sure why exactly.
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weird
please let us know if you figure it out.
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you could try going a different route for bass... voodoo sound, if you haven't already.
we have one of the best sound chips for any phone in our Epic 4g's, and it can use a special kernel-level sound driver, voodoo sound.
for voodoo sound to work, you need to run a voodoo sound enabled kernel (effsi makes one, compatible with CM 10.1 and/or slim rom, the two best Epic roms IMHO.
then with that in place, you can run voodoo sound (free) from play store. it has a bass adjustment setting that works at the kernel level, so applies to all programs I believe, and in a different way then regular EQ like in poweramp.
BTW, another program to check out for audio that is supposed to make MP3 sound better, by using more CPU to over/extra sample, is Neutron MP. I can hear a noticable difference playing music through it, and bought the pay version. I am on monster turbines, with custom fit made earplugs from Radians custom mold plastic ($10, google).
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Neutron MP really sounds different from the rest, thanks for the heads up!

[audio][app] For those that miss Viper4Android... Works on Lollipop!

One root mod/app I miss quite a bit is Viper4Android. It makes a HUGE difference to audio quality. Even more so on a smartphone with a subpar DAC such as our note 4 (the exynos variants are excluded since they have a Wolfson DAC). Due to the lack of root on the ATT note 4, I've been carrying a secondary device with Viper4Android to enjoy my music with headphones. But not anymore. I've found the next best thing and NO ROOT required. Truthfully, it's not as good as V4A; but it's definitely an improvement over everything else I've tried so far on the note 4. It is called Noozxoide EIZO-rewire PRO.
KitKat Setup:
Install from the play store here
Go to Settings>Sound>Music effects and select Noozxoide
You should be good to go
Enjoy
Lollipop Setup:
Install from the play store here
Go to Settings>Application manager
Swipe to the "ALL" tab
Find "SoundAlive" and disable it
(not sure if this is needed but just in case) Now find "Package Adapt Sound" and also disable it
Noozxoide should now work
Enjoy
Tips:
Get rid of persistent icon/notification -
When you see the app's icon in the status bar, pull down the notification shade and select the noozxoide notification. Untick the box for "Show notifications" and voila no more constant icon in status bar.
Sound quality/app settings:
I personally only bother with the "LINE-OUT" option since that's the one that corresponds to the aux jack.
By just having Noozxoide as the default EQ and all options unchecked in the app I noticed an improvement in sound quality.
- Check the box for "Deliver balanced natural soundstage and premium bass" and select one of the digital presets. Different presets give a different sound signature. Try each and select what sounds best to you.
- *Apparently "VE-Engine (Volume Enhancement)" does not work for our Qualcomm DAC so don't use this*
- For more warmth and bass check the box for "Increase the monitor size with added psycho-acoustic" and again select the effect strength. WARNING! The bass can get very strong!
- For wider soundstage and surround sound check the box for "Create VSUR on practical monitors and widen soundstage" and select one of the room sizes.
My personal settings:
I generally only check the first box and select the "Audiophile" preset. That's it. However, when using closed-back over ear headphones and listening to EDM, I pump up a bit of the bass for some eargasmic, soul crushing bass.
A couple of points I'd like to make:
1. Like I previously stated, I only care about the "LINE-OUT" option. I didn't bother checking out the "BUILT-IN" (speaker) or "WIRELESS" (Bluetooth) options.
2. It is recommended to use good headphones/earphones/speakers to get the most out of this app. Otherwise you might not hear a difference compared to the stock SoundAlive.
3. DOES work with ART and Lollipop
4. MOST IMPORTANTLY, audio quality can very subjective so what sounds good to me may not sound good to you. Try different options and hopefully something will sound good to YOU. If you end up agreeing with me that this is the next best thing to V4A, then you are welcome. Enjoy!
One last thing:
You might ask yourself, "why bother with this if I'm happy with the sound quality of -insert favorite music player-?" The answer is simple. Music players like PowerAmp sound great for playing back music located locally on the phone. However, what if you want great sound quality of all audio play back including streaming music apps like Google Play Music, Pandora, Spotify, etc? That's where this gem of an app comes in :highfive:.
I am not the dev of this app. All credit goes to dogsbark.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS! Not being able to root sucks man and V4A was one of the biggest things that I missed the most. Again, thank you for sharing this, it works great on my Note. We don't have many options but this for sure is a good one. Good find.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS! Not being able to root sucks man and V4A was one of the biggest things that I missed the most. Again, thank you for sharing this, it works great on my Note. We don't have many options but this for sure is a good one. Good find.
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You're welcome! I'm glad you're liking it. V4A and xposed are tied for most important things I miss about root.
P.S. Just a heads up, Noozxoide doesn't work with ART runtime so it won't work on Lollipop either until (hopefully) the dev updates the app. Something to keep in mind if you're running the ART runtime or if you take the lollipop update once it's released.
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You're welcome! I'm glad you're liking it. V4A and xposed are tied for most important things I miss about root.
P.S. Just a heads up, Noozxoide doesn't work with ART runtime so it won't work on Lollipop either until (hopefully) the dev updates the app. Something to keep in mind if you're running the ART runtime or if you take the lollipop update once it's released.
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Yeah man, I'm really liking it, it's working pretty damn good. I've never really used xposed so I can't say I miss it, I was more of a ROM whore, I miss that a lot hahaha.
I haven't done anything to this phone, when I switched to AT&T and got the Note 4 and realized I couldn't root it I stopped checking XDA and now work has kept me extremely busy and out of the loop. I have no idea what ART runtime is :crying: I have to catch up... which is a good thing, I have something to look forward to on my off time.
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Yeah man, I'm really liking it, it's working pretty damn good. I've never really used xposed so I can't say I miss it, I was more of a ROM whore, I miss that a lot hahaha.
I haven't done anything to this phone, when I switched to AT&T and got the Note 4 and realized I couldn't root it I stopped checking XDA and now work has kept me extremely busy and out of the loop. I have no idea what ART runtime is :crying: I have to catch up... which is a good thing, I have something to look forward to on my off time.
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Oh me too man! I'm a recovering ROM & kernel-holic lol. I would be on the lookout for a ROM and kernel combo that had all the features I needed/wanted plus battery life and performance. Once I found a combo I liked, I would just flash ROM and kernel updates though... until there was a new ROM or kernel to try out lol. Plus I would do a bunch of tweaks that is only possible with root. Ugh I know I could be getting SO MUCH more from this phone with root...
ART is the new runtime, instead of Dalvik, introduced by Google in kitkat. You have the option to run either Dalvik or ART in developer options. It was experimental in kitkat but its the only runtime available in lollipop. It is suppose to improve performance and battery life. Here's more info if you want to read more about ART. LINK
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Oh me too man! I'm a recovering ROM & kernel-holic lol. I would be on the lookout for a ROM and kernel combo that had all the features I needed/wanted plus battery life and performance. Once I found a combo I liked, I would just flash ROM and kernel updates though... until there was a new ROM or kernel to try out lol. Plus I would do a bunch of tweaks that is only possible with root. Ugh I know I could be getting SO MUCH more from this phone with root...
ART is the new runtime, instead of Dalvik, introduced by Google in kitkat. You have the option to run either Dalvik or ART in developer options. It was experimental in kitkat but its the only runtime available in lollipop. It is suppose to improve performance and battery life. Here's more info if you want to read more about ART. LINK
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That sounds like me! And I agree... this phone could be able to do soooo much more with root.
I remember being able to run either Dalvik or ART vaguely... I can't remember what phone I did that with. Thanks for the link, it's something else I can look forward to on my freetime. I just wish I could tinker with this amazing phone.
In addition, I've tried poweramp, neutron, and jet audio. And I feel like Jet audio with the dsp enabled sounds louder than the rest. I'd go Jet, neutron, poweramp.
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In addition, I've tried poweramp, neutron, and jet audio. And I feel like Jet audio with the dsp enabled sounds louder than the rest. I'd go Jet, neutron, poweramp.
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Wow really? Neutron is praised as the best player on android by audiophiles. I use poweramp even though I know the sound quality is better on neutron. I just couldn't deal with the archaic ui of neutron. Looks horrible IMO. But I had not heard of jet audio. Something new to try. Thanks!
Maybe I am blind, but I no longer see a music effect option in the sound menu since the OTA update last night.
Edit: saw your post up above about not working on ART runtime which 5.0.1 makes use of. Wish I would have seen this before moving up.
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Maybe I am blind, but I no longer see a music effect option in the sound menu since the OTA update last night.
Edit: saw your post up above about not working on ART runtime which 5.0.1 makes use of. Wish I would have seen this before moving up.
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Check the OP again
I jumped the gun by claiming incompatibility with ART. I was convinced by reviews in the play store and posts I later found on xda about this app. They were wrong though. Only Noozxoide EIZO-rewire E (not PRO) is incompatible with ART.
I found this out by accident when I took the Lollipop update (didn't format data/factory reset) and noticed Noozxoide was still working :victory:. I looked for the reason why and remembered I had disabled SoundAlive before the update and after the update it was still disabled. So even though you can no longer select Noozxoide manually through Settings>Sound>Music effects, you can enable it by disabling all other dsp's/eq's.
Thank you for taking the time to figure all this out. I tried it the first time and wondered why it wouldn't "work" properly, but seems you figured out the Lollipop side effects. Trying it out now and it seems to be working much better.
I miss root and viper4android soo much and this is the cure to hold me over till then.
Seems to be working fine for me on Lollipop and I installed PRO not E. Incompatibility with ART would stop it from running correct? Not let it load and run, but fail to operate... However If I use NOOZY media player which has M built in, it says that M is incompatible with the DAC and has to run in debugging mode, So I switch to external DFX and PRO kicks in.
lexbian said:
Seems to be working fine for me on Lollipop and I installed PRO not E. Incompatibility with ART would stop it from running correct? Not let it load and run, but fail to operate... However If I use NOOZY media player which has M built in, it says that M is incompatible with the DAC and has to run in debugging mode, So I switch to external DFX and PRO kicks in.
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Yeah Pro works fine with art and lollipop, it's E that doesn't. From what I remember M is the best compared to PRO and E; however, it was very limited to the dacs it's compatible with (Sabre and burr brown only I believe). I think the plan originally was to make M separate from noozy and make it compatible with more dacs, just like PRO/E, but it seems like development has stopped unfortunately .
Doesn't work with spotify
It works with the stock music player, however, when attempting to use it with Spotify I can't hear any difference no matter what settings i change in Noozxoide, even though when i touch the Equalizer button in spotify settings it still opens the Noozxoide app.
My android version is Lollipop
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It works with the stock music player, however, when attempting to use it with Spotify I can't hear any difference no matter what settings i change in Noozxoide, even though when i touch the Equalizer button in spotify settings it still opens the Noozxoide app.
My android version is Lollipop
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Hey sorry I didn't reply sooner. I'll install Spotify and see if I have the same issue. I currently only use GPM and Tidal but I did get the subscription to Spotify premium since they have/had the promotion of 3 months for 99ยข and they have an app for my ps4. I'll let you know what I find out.
Thanks Bro... it's the sound solution for my device, alcatel flash2
Hi guys! Would this work in conjunction with an EQ?
I love Viper4Android, unfortunately we can't get it to work for our device as we haven't got root. Noozxoide works great, however, I don't have high-end Headphones..Viper used to compensate for the loss in some audio spectrum, but I can't do that with Nooz, so I'd love to tweak it a bit using another EQ.
TIA
Does this work with Marshmallow? I'm gonna try it tomorrow

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