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Everyone seems to be overlooking one thing with tethering: That your cellular service provider can charge you separately for it. With that in mind, I'm keeping an eye out for a proxy app or something akin to Internet Sharing. Activity from these apps would appear as mobile usage. A wireless access point app would do too.
Tethering is not the same, and I disapprove of one mod's decision to close a thread because a user was asking about "Internet Sharing" solutions. Granted they may have not known the difference, but if the thread hadn't been closed then everyone on it might have found out.
Im with you all the way!
I wish I could help but have no idea. I can read that's about it
We need internet sharing, not modem style dialing up.
I foresee it all coming together nicely... In time
My LG optimus has mfgapp unlocked and the sideload ability unlocked so I'm ready to try anything!
So I've had my desire a year, been on Three's Sim15 plan, where its sim only and i get 2GB of data. Been tethering fine for that whole year. Now i'm in new halls of residence (Uni dorm) and the internet is awefull. So i moved my plan over to sim10 with all you can eat data, figuring id continue to tether, no problem. Well its been a day and now every time i go to a website on my PC, i get blocked by threes "your not allowed to tether" website.
Basically, I've tried Barnicle, pdaNet 3, easy tether and wifi tether, all to no avail (i even set my chrome user gent to that of android, didn't work). Do i have any hope of getting round this annoying block, or am i going to have to live with internet only on my phone.
Sorry if I've posted in the wrong place, or been ignorant to Tethering developments, but i wasn't able to find anything on the matter.
are you in the uk?
Yes, to be honest i was unaware Three operated in any other territories. What is the significance of this?
No significance, I was just wondering as I am in the UK on three too
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I'm on the Text 500 plan with an HTC Desire.
Have zero problems tethering although you're only meant to tether on the one plan AFAIK.
Yes, it is only The One Plan that has tethering. But i don't want to pay £25 a month. I was wondering, would connecting my phone to a VPN hide all traffic, including trafic form my PC?
cant explain of major experience, but i tethered my desire (htc desire) to a laptop whilst i was out onsite at a job, and visited numerous websites, and they all worked fine?
Are you on stock or rooted rom? Maybe try a different rom or version of android.
Maybe you can find some help here: http://androidforums.com/desire-support-troubleshooting/82054-internet-tethering-orange-mobile.html
I am on CM7.1
i don't think its a case of ROM's. But i suppose i could try Oxygen real quick. Like i said, it used to work fine on the 30 day rolling contract, but now its a 12th month contact, im getting told off.
Like i said before, would a VPN hide all my traffic? if i connected to it on my phone, and then tethered to my pc.
[edit] just tried oxygen, didn't help, still get the tether splash page.
Peelypeel said:
So I've had my desire a year, been on Three's Sim15 plan, where its sim only and i get 2GB of data. Been tethering fine for that whole year. Now i'm in new halls of residence (Uni dorm) and the internet is awefull. So i moved my plan over to sim10 with all you can eat data.
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Ok, there's your problem, the plan change.
Three only allow tethering officially on either the one plan or with the Add internet max add-on. See link ...
http://ask3.three.co.uk/srvs/cgi-bi...sername=Mobile:mobileUser?s_search=helpsearch
The 2GB internet on your old sim 15 plan was applied via free add internet max add-on, which Three allow tethering on.
It seems recently Three have started enforcing these rules (they havnt in the past) and must have applied some kind of detection to the network.
Im on the old sim 15 plan still with add internet max 2Gb add-on free and can still tether, as per Three's terms and conditions.
One thing you could try is changing the APN from Three.co.uk to 3internet, I cant promise it will work but worth a try, as doing that does get round Three's adult content filter at least
Cheers
Thanks for your answer usual, at least now i know why i could tether before. I've solved my problem by spending a little more money. I got a VPN, and login to it with my phone, then tether to my PC. So three don't see a single packet of readable data go through there network, so no way to detect if its my phone or PC. Works perfectly. 20GB downloaded so far Paying for a VPN certainly beats paying for unlimited tethered data.
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I was wondering if anyone knows how to override 3's tether block on iPhone 4?? Turns out they major screwed me over on my new contract, they gave me all you can eat data, but conveniently left out the part that I wouldn't be allowed to tether as it is only on the One Plan that you can do this! I have a separate PAYG 3 sim where I can get a £15 add on for the unlimited data that I'm using for the tethering now! It's so stupid having to pay twice just because they won't allow it. If anyone could help me I'd be SO grateful!
I am a bit new to all this, I'm quite technologically minded etc but I couldn't figure out the VPN stuff to see if it worked with iPhone.(I just tried this, turns out they cannot run together, when personal hotspot is connected, vpn disconnects, unless im doing it wrong)
Again any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Peelypeel said:
Thanks for your answer usual, at least now i know why i could tether before. I've solved my problem by spending a little more money. I got a VPN, and login to it with my phone, then tether to my PC. So three don't see a single packet of readable data go through there network, so no way to detect if its my phone or PC. Works perfectly. 20GB downloaded so far Paying for a VPN certainly beats paying for unlimited tethered data.
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Well done mate, have you got a guide on how you managed it?
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
shahdhah said:
Hi
I was wondering if anyone knows how to override 3's tether block on iPhone 4?? Turns out they major screwed me over on my new contract, they gave me all you can eat data, but conveniently left out the part that I wouldn't be allowed to tether as it is only on the One Plan that you can do this! I have a separate PAYG 3 sim where I can get a £15 add on for the unlimited data that I'm using for the tethering now! It's so stupid having to pay twice just because they won't allow it. If anyone could help me I'd be SO grateful!
I am a bit new to all this, I'm quite technologically minded etc but I couldn't figure out the VPN stuff to see if it worked with iPhone.(I just tried this, turns out they cannot run together, when personal hotspot is connected, vpn disconnects, unless im doing it wrong)
Again any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks
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the only way i found was to jailbreak phone and then install tethering app. if your connected to three and not on the right plan they can make the hotspot thethering option vanish to stop your sharing.
Peelypeel said:
Thanks for your answer usual, at least now i know why i could tether before. I've solved my problem by spending a little more money. I got a VPN, and login to it with my phone, then tether to my PC. So three don't see a single packet of readable data go through there network, so no way to detect if its my phone or PC. Works perfectly. 20GB downloaded so far Paying for a VPN certainly beats paying for unlimited tethered data.
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is there any more news on how you were able to do this? or what vpn you used?
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Yes, it is only The One Plan that has tethering. But i don't want to pay £25 a month. I was wondering, would connecting my phone to a VPN hide all traffic, including trafic form my PC?
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You can get the one plan for less. I pay 15 per month on a HTC desire.
Blocked Internet from mobile to laptop
Peelypeel said:
Thanks for your answer usual, at least now i know why i could tether before. I've solved my problem by spending a little more money. I got a VPN, and login to it with my phone, then tether to my PC. So three don't see a single packet of readable data go through there network, so no way to detect if its my phone or PC. Works perfectly. 20GB downloaded so far Paying for a VPN certainly beats paying for unlimited tethered data.
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Hi what do u mean paying for VPN?
Am on 600 12 month plan hapily purchased that i will be surfing internet but those f**in bastardsblblocking internet browsing on laptop
I tried that pda thingy didnt help..
Can anybody help me?
Thanx so much
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leerees said:
You can get the one plan for less. I pay 15 per month on a HTC desire.
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Excuse me??that is bull**it
One plan is 25 pounds NOT 15 ! !
Am payin 15 pounds for 600 12 month!!
DeadBeginning said:
is there any more news on how you were able to do this? or what vpn you used?
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I'm reviving a 2012 thread... sorry but i wanted to answer this because i was just search how to block teether on Three uk network.
1. You get a free/paid VPN, maybe that has gateways in your country (show be faster),
2. then you set up your phone : System settings - More settings - VPN - Add VPN - put any name, select connection type (usually PPTP) and put the server address (any other settings depends on the VPN you use)
3. the new VPN will show up in the list, tap once
4. put the username / password provided by the free/paid VPN provider.
Enjoy...
now i'm trying some free VPNs...for now, maybe i'll try some trials from paid ones and then decide because i don't see the point in buying a VPN if i can only get 500kb/s
Please update with any results
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iEthos said:
Excuse me??that is bull**it
One plan is 25 pounds NOT 15 ! !
Am payin 15 pounds for 600 12 month!!
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And what there ain't something called negotiation I'm getting 50% off on all contracts!!!
I swear people ether are thick enough to believe the prices these companies quote or have ZERO negotiation skills.
First of all i did not found an apropiate sub forum to start my thread, so really sorry if this is a wrong forum. I owned galaxy nexus so I thought this would be a good sub forum
Now let's come to the main issue.
Recently an anti islamic movie was upload to Youtube. Which creates alot of tension in the 3rd world.... Pakistan's government block the website across the Pakistan to protest against the video. And YouTube will remained close till the removal of that video (which ain't gonna happen like this).
As you all know that Pakistan is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Pakistan telecommunication authority hire inexperienced IT experts due to political pressures. These incompetent employees and government could not manage to block the YouTube properly at first. So PTA immediately block the IP of YouTube. But in doing of such impotent work by our ****ty government more then half of Google services become unusable in Pakistan. We can't connect to gmail account on our android and not even play store.
We can not download apps from the app store because of such failed action of our government.
As you know that YouTube is owned by Google. Yoiube IP is same as most of the Google's ip's.
PTA have blocked the IP so many Google services had stop.
In light of above explanation I need a work around on how open my gmail account and play store. Any help would be highly appreciated.
I know through proxy I can unblock the websites. But I,m unable to sync my gmail account through proxies because of the Google's high security. And I still can not download apps via market through proxy.
Give me a good suggestion. Any work around, any good proxy please.
Any modified Google play store.
I have galaxy nexus, galaxy note HTC desire and Asus transformer. All of them could not connect to Google services due to this blockage. And I know this problem had spread across whole of the android users in pakistan.
Refrain from political discussion or abusing thanks.
THE THREAD IS CLOSED, YOU CAN GO TO http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1903105 for Solution Thanks
I don't think a workaround will work unless PTA lifts the ban or at least unblock ip's affecting google services. I have a galaxy note and I thought it was because of the custom ROM I was running. So I did a full wipe, nothing happened. Then I checked on my brothers HTC one X which was on stock and he was having the same problem. PTA guys are a bunch of ****ing retards. Thanks for starting this thread, I hope someone comes up with a solution. Btw, I started experiencing this problem yesterday while youtube was blocked a few days before. When did you first start experiencing these problems?
Well for websites I know there are sites I know you can use to mask what you are looking at, but I don't think it will work with services based in apps.
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How are you trying to connect to google services, via WiFi or EDGE? If WiFi, then which ISP (PTCL DSL, Wateen or some other?) I see you're on Warid's network.
I'm in Karachi and my Google related accounts sync/work fine over wifi but have a problem over EDGE/2G. If you're trying to download apps from mkt I can only assume you use wifi for it (because on EDGE speeds it would take you forever to download any apps at all). PTCL is the only ISP that has a problem as far as I know. I know in Lahore and Karachi several isp's are working fine in this regard (Wateen, WiTribe, Worldcall, etc).
If you're trying to get google services to work over EDGE on Warid then you can just use gmail and market etc from the browser, which works fine. Only the apps themselves have a problem (like email sync which takes really long).
muneeb.abbas3 said:
I don't think a workaround will work unless PTA lifts the ban or at least unblock ip's affecting google services. I have a galaxy note and I thought it was because of the custom ROM I was running. So I did a full wipe, nothing happened. Then I checked on my brothers HTC one X which was on stock and he was having the same problem. PTA guys are a bunch of ****ing retards. Thanks for starting this thread, I hope someone comes up with a solution. Btw, I started experiencing this problem yesterday while youtube was blocked a few days before. When did you first start experiencing these problems?
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I,m facing this problem since Youtube was blocked. and I,m running slim bean 2.5 on gnex and aokp on asus transformer. there are some Proxy Apps on play store. Hope our incompetent government will soon restore youtube and all google services like they did a year ago when facebook was blocked.
Guiding.God said:
How are you trying to connect to google services, via WiFi or EDGE? If WiFi, then which ISP (PTCL DSL, Wateen or some other?) I see you're on Warid's network.
I'm in Karachi and my Google related accounts sync/work fine over wifi but have a problem over EDGE/2G. If you're trying to download apps from mkt I can only assume you use wifi for it (because on EDGE speeds it would take you forever to download any apps at all). PTCL is the only ISP that has a problem as far as I know. I know in Lahore and Karachi several isp's are working fine in this regard (Wateen, WiTribe, Worldcall, etc).
If you're trying to get google services to work over EDGE on Warid then you can just use gmail and market etc from the browser, which works fine. Only the apps themselves have a problem (like email sync which takes really long).
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I,m from sialkot,Punjab. here all edge networks and ISP are having the same issue. I had tried Wateen, Witribe, and ptcl they all getting the same issue, i don't know if they are working through the same channel or not. i have tried edge over ufone, warid, mobilink. but still can't open the play store and contact syncs in gmail account on my android.
On my Gnex i,m running on Slim bean 2.5 rom, and AOKP on Asus Transformer. All of them are getting the same error.
if your play store is working good, i heard there are some apps in play store which can direct android traffic through proxy channel. kindly research on it and see if one of them can work for youtube app in android. i think that is possible. because if i modify my access point(wifi) setting in android, and set proxy setting to manual, and enter the proxy ip with port. i can access youtube and i can also sync gmail. but that channel only work for 2 or 3 min :/. i kept on changing proxies ip and ports. but not working
gagb1967 said:
Well for websites I know there are sites I know you can use to mask what you are looking at, but I don't think it will work with services based in apps.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
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Thanks for your Post. Is there any apps on play store which can direct all android traffic through proxy channel? i have tried modifying my access point settings through wifi advance settings, and set proxy mode to manual and set ip of proxy. that is a possible work around and my gmail and youtube also work for 2 or 3 min, but not a permanent work through, can you please research on any work around. if possible. i,m looking to subscribe Hidemyass.com for complete anonymous Ip. if it can work on android through some kind of proxy app.
You might be able to do this using a VPN. Settings > More > VPN. You'll need to find a free VPN service that will give you the login information. I'm sure there's one out there but I don't know any off the top of my head.
mmolitor87 said:
You might be able to do this using a VPN. Settings > More > VPN. You'll need to find a free VPN service that will give you the login information. I'm sure there's one out there but I don't know any off the top of my head.
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this is the best way indeed although I have to say most free vpns are seriously slow. you can get a proper one for like 5 to 10 dollars a month.
Sent from my galaxy nexus
mmolitor87 said:
You might be able to do this using a VPN. Settings > More > VPN. You'll need to find a free VPN service that will give you the login information. I'm sure there's one out there but I don't know any off the top of my head.
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eniux said:
this is the best way indeed although I have to say most free vpns are seriously slow. you can get a proper one for like 5 to 10 dollars a month.
Sent from my galaxy nexus
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A wild idea and i have done it, finally a work around using orbit by tor Service..!
hassi4042 said:
First of all i did not found an apropiate sub forum to start my thread, so really sorry if this is a wrong forum. I owned galaxy nexus so I thought this would be a good sub forum
Now let's come to the main issue.
Recently an anti islamic movie was upload to Youtube. Which creates alot of tension in the 3rd world.... Pakistan's government block the website across the Pakistan to protest against the video. And YouTube will remained close till the removal of that video (which ain't gonna happen like this).
As you all know that Pakistan is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Pakistan telecommunication authority hire inexperienced IT experts due to political pressures. These incompetent employees and government could not manage to block the YouTube properly at first. So PTA immediately block the IP of YouTube. But in doing of such impotent work by our ****ty government more then half of Google services become unusable in Pakistan. We can't connect to gmail account on our android and not even play store.
We can not download apps from the app store because of such failed action of our government.
As you know that YouTube is owned by Google. Yoiube IP is same as most of the Google's ip's.
PTA have blocked the IP so many Google services had stop.
In light of above explanation I need a work around on how open my gmail account and play store. Any help would be highly appreciated.
I know through proxy I can unblock the websites. But I,m unable to sync my gmail account through proxies because of the Google's high security. And I still can not download apps via market through proxy.
Give me a good suggestion. Any work around, any good proxy please.
Any modified Google play store.
I have galaxy nexus, galaxy note HTC desire and Asus transformer. All of them could not connect to Google services due to this blockage. And I know this problem had spread across whole of the android users in pakistan.
Refrain from political discussion or abusing thanks.
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Try this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aed.droidvpn ? DroidVPN free has a limit of 100MB a day which i guess is good enough for sync purpose?
if you have a rooted phone then you can use this proxy in your wifi settings. I tested, it works. not too slow either
77.37.192.19
port: 3128
i am from sahiwal punjab Playstore is not opening i am using wateen wifi but cant access the website.help..
and anybody can tell me that how to buy apps from play store as in Pakistan Paypal is valid then how can i buy apps i dont have credit card but UBL WIZ CARD
grown ups said:
i am from sahiwal punjab Playstore is not opening i am using wateen wifi but cant access the website.help..
and anybody can tell me that how to buy apps from play store as in Pakistan Paypal is valid then how can i buy apps i dont have credit card but UBL WIZ CARD
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The OP has already posted a workaround bypass here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1903105 and it works fine over wifi and EDGE
Also, UBL's wiz internet card is usable on play store....call UBL's helpline to confirm and get instructions
VPN maybe?
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Guiding.God said:
The OP has already posted a workaround bypass here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1903105 and it works fine over wifi and EDGE
Also, UBL's wiz internet card is usable on play store....call UBL's helpline to confirm and get instructions
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i have ubl internet card but how can use to buy apps in $ help me please
grown ups said:
i have ubl internet card but how can use to buy apps in $ help me please
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I don't understand the problem, what issue are you facing? If you have a UBL WIZ Internet card, just login to play store, press buy on any app and enter your card details like you would with any credit card - your card number, the cvc/cvv code at the back the expiry date and your billing address - works fine here
Make sure you call UBL's phone help line first and give them your card number and confirm if you are authorised to make online transactions
EDIT: It doesn't matter if the price stated is in US$ or Britis Pound or Euros or Kuwaiti Dinars, UBL bank will convert to Pak Rs with their prevailing bank conversion rate and charge your card for the right amount automatically
FWIW, I used Witribe today (in Pindi) and Playstore works fine. PTCL is flaky - sometimes, yes, at other times, no. I'm on Mobilink (I think I need to update my profile) and I couldn't sync my account with Google the entire day.
So - it depends from ISP to ISP. Your best bet is to either use Onavo Extend - or Orbot (Tor) for Android... or another VPN solution.
I have posted the Bypass and solution of this Issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1903105
to All having this issue kindly go to that thread thank you.
i,m requesting the Moderator to lock this thread. Thank you
aeoveu said:
FWIW, I used Witribe today (in Pindi) and Playstore works fine. PTCL is flaky - sometimes, yes, at other times, no. I'm on Mobilink (I think I need to update my profile) and I couldn't sync my account with Google the entire day.
So - it depends from ISP to ISP. Your best bet is to either use Onavo Extend - or Orbot (Tor) for Android... or another VPN solution.
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So today I got the letter in the mail from AT&T telling me that I need to stop tethering or that I'll lose my old grandfathered in unlimited data plan and be moved to plan that supports tethering and a data cap.
I called the number they gave me to get some info on what they were going to say they told me very generally that they have detected tethering and that if I don't stop by the end of the month, they will bump my plan. She gave me a laundry list of things that are considered tethering, from wifi hotspots to getting internet access for a gaming console.
I pressed very hard to find out what exactly I have done that they register as tethering more than anything I wanted specifics. She told me several times that they couldn't give out specifics as that is proprietary information. When I suggested that this might just them trying to force me onto a more expensive plan since they were unable to give me any proof that I had been tethering, she paused and said that she's wait while I look in my phone for tethering apps. I told her I don't have any tethering apps and she told me to look again. After some back and forth, she told me that the mere existence of a tethering app on the phone was considered tethering.
Beyond the issue of tethering at the moment I'm bothered that they even know what apps are on my phone and that they might use the existence of an app as justification to alter my service.
Has anyone heard of the carrier looking at apps like this before? From a privacy standpoint, I'd like to see if there is some way to keep their nose out of my business. Anyone know of a way to keep AT&T out of my phone?
If you were to have a tethering app on your phone (and of course, you don't), what would it be? i.e., if AT&T can detect certain apps, what, do you suppose (without admitting anything incriminating), are the apps they're talking about?
I can't imagine they'd be crazy enough to surreptitiously audit the content of a subscriber's phone, and then tacitly admit to it with this sort of inquiry. But I could imagine that they can detect tethering "signatures" via snooping network traffic. For example, if you tether to a PC and use that to browse the internet, the user agent will look different than when the phone's browser is being used. Or if you left a tethering session running and they saw your phone pulling down updates for Microsoft Windows, that'd sure be a dead giveaway. There's little if any reason to pull anything off Windows Update with a phone. They could maybe get away with detecting that sort of thing since they wouldn't be looking at data content, just whether or not the data source was consistent with a smartphone or not...
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So today I got the letter in the mail from AT&T telling me that I need to stop tethering or that I'll lose my old grandfathered in unlimited data plan and be moved to plan that supports tethering and a data cap.
I called the number they gave me to get some info on what they were going to say they told me very generally that they have detected tethering and that if I don't stop by the end of the month, they will bump my plan. She gave me a laundry list of things that are considered tethering, from wifi hotspots to getting internet access for a gaming console.
I pressed very hard to find out what exactly I have done that they register as tethering more than anything I wanted specifics. She told me several times that they couldn't give out specifics as that is proprietary information. When I suggested that this might just them trying to force me onto a more expensive plan since they were unable to give me any proof that I had been tethering, she paused and said that she's wait while I look in my phone for tethering apps. I told her I don't have any tethering apps and she told me to look again. After some back and forth, she told me that the mere existence of a tethering app on the phone was considered tethering.
Beyond the issue of tethering at the moment I'm bothered that they even know what apps are on my phone and that they might use the existence of an app as justification to alter my service.
Has anyone heard of the carrier looking at apps like this before? From a privacy standpoint, I'd like to see if there is some way to keep their nose out of my business. Anyone know of a way to keep AT&T out of my phone?
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Are you on stock AT&T rom?
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While I hope for their own sake that they aren't auditing software on the devices, I suppose they could be watching what people download. For instance, some tethering apps are just not available in the Play store if you are coming from AT&T or Sprint. I could see that perhaps in one of the many TOS agreements I clicked OK on without reading there was something that said they could sniff around my phone.
I assumed they would be looking at traffic, but after being quite vague over and over again, she was very specific about a tethering app. Agreed that as soon as a PC goes online it creates all kinds of traffic that wouldn't look like a smart phone.
I am using the stock / not rooted AT&T ROM at this point. I normally root right away, but I haven't really had a need on this one.
I would root and use a different ROM if I felt like it would keep their noses out of my junk. Even if I was tethering, I'm not using a crazy amount of data so I find the whole thing pretty silly.
Now I am thinking that if they do change my tethering plan without my permission, I have to assume that I can break my contract if I want and move elsewhere. Just not sure where I could get another Note II with unlimited data at a decent price.
willp2 said:
While I hope for their own sake that they aren't auditing software on the devices, I suppose they could be watching what people download. For instance, some tethering apps are just not available in the Play store if you are coming from AT&T or Sprint. I could see that perhaps in one of the many TOS agreements I clicked OK on without reading there was something that said they could sniff around my phone.
I assumed they would be looking at traffic, but after being quite vague over and over again, she was very specific about a tethering app. Agreed that as soon as a PC goes online it creates all kinds of traffic that wouldn't look like a smart phone.
I am using the stock / not rooted AT&T ROM at this point. I normally root right away, but I haven't really had a need on this one.
I would root and use a different ROM if I felt like it would keep their noses out of my junk. Even if I was tethering, I'm not using a crazy amount of data so I find the whole thing pretty silly.
Now I am thinking that if they do change my tethering plan without my permission, I have to assume that I can break my contract if I want and move elsewhere. Just not sure where I could get another Note II with unlimited data at a decent price.
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Also make sure you DONT use internet explorer that is a NO NO for tethering with AT&T they see the browser agent and KNOW that`s not possible without tethering.
hyelton said:
Also make sure you DONT use internet explorer that is a NO NO for tethering with AT&T they see the browser agent and KNOW that`s not possible without tethering.
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Prove I haven't just changed my agent string to make the stupid app server think I'm on a windows desktop and using IE.
One of my friends pinged me 2 days ago. He got the friendly text stating tethering isn't allowed without a tether plan. No tethering on his part, just a lot of vevo traffic.
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You could setup a linux machine at home and keep that running. Setup an SSH tunnel from your phone to your home linux box and tunnel all the tethering traffic through that. To AT&T that would just look like an encrypted ssh connection.
You could also run a Windows virtual machine on your phone. It's already been done.
Darkshado said:
You could also run a Windows virtual machine on your phone. It's already been done.
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That wouldn't help. FIrst, I don't think there are any hardware network drivers for windows for the Note II, so it wouldn't be able to get internet. Second, If he did have internet, he would still run into the same issue of unencrypted traffic being sniffed by at&t. Sure he could setup an ssh tunnel from windows, but at that point it's just silly to run windows on the note just to encrypt traffic.
I assume one could use any VPN like the SSH tunnel or something like hotspot shield or similar as long as all traffic is forced through the tunnel and there really would be no way for anyone to tell what you are doing.
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I assume one could use any VPN like the SSH tunnel or something like hotspot shield or similar as long as all traffic is forced through the tunnel and there really would be no way for anyone to tell what you are doing.
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YA, thats the idea. As long as traffic is encrypted somehow there is little that AT&T can sniff.
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That wouldn't help. FIrst, I don't think there are any hardware network drivers for windows for the Note II, so it wouldn't be able to get internet. Second, If he did have internet, he would still run into the same issue of unencrypted traffic being sniffed by at&t. Sure he could setup an ssh tunnel from windows, but at that point it's just silly to run windows on the note just to encrypt traffic.
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I think he was perhaps referring to why there was traffic that looks like it originated from a PC coming from my phone. So if someone was running a VM on the phone itself it would produce some PC looking traffic. If that was the idea there, I assume tethering to a VM is still tethering?
Yeah: Provided you can run Qemu or Virtualbox you can run Windows in it, and it will have network access just like any VM would from a full sized computer. My point is that you can make a non-tethered phone generate the very same sort of IP traffic a computer would.
Heck, if the Fujitsu LOOX F-07C can run on AT&T, you don't even need a VM to generate connections to Windows Update and a desktop IE user agent!
I got the same message last week. I don't tether at all. I'm on cleanrom 4.5. Tried to request what apps they suspect me of using but wouldn't tell me either. I know all the apps I have on my phone as I keep things very simple. I will admit I do use a lot of data (4-4.5 gigs in 2 weeks lol)
I use Pandora and tunein app to stream music all the time. Only thing that I recently did out of the normal routine was use the desktop view on Google chrome. Would that give a different browser signature?
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I got the same message last week. I don't tether at all. I'm on cleanrom 4.5. Tried to request what apps they suspect me of using but wouldn't tell me either. I know all the apps I have on my phone as I keep things very simple. I will admit I do use a lot of data (4-4.5 gigs in 2 weeks lol)
I use Pandora and tunein app to stream music all the time. Only thing that I recently did out of the normal routine was use the desktop view on Google chrome. Would that give a different browser signature?
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Yes, it would show a user-agent string without indicating mobile. But not likely something to trigger a tether notice, as I use desktop view all the time. It's likely the high data usage that makes them think tether.
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So today I got the letter in the mail from AT&T telling me that I need to stop tethering or that I'll lose my old grandfathered in unlimited data plan and be moved to plan that supports tethering and a data cap.
I called the number they gave me to get some info on what they were going to say they told me very generally that they have detected tethering and that if I don't stop by the end of the month, they will bump my plan. She gave me a laundry list of things that are considered tethering, from wifi hotspots to getting internet access for a gaming console.
I pressed very hard to find out what exactly I have done that they register as tethering more than anything I wanted specifics. She told me several times that they couldn't give out specifics as that is proprietary information. When I suggested that this might just them trying to force me onto a more expensive plan since they were unable to give me any proof that I had been tethering, she paused and said that she's wait while I look in my phone for tethering apps. I told her I don't have any tethering apps and she told me to look again. After some back and forth, she told me that the mere existence of a tethering app on the phone was considered tethering.
Beyond the issue of tethering at the moment I'm bothered that they even know what apps are on my phone and that they might use the existence of an app as justification to alter my service.
Has anyone heard of the carrier looking at apps like this before? From a privacy standpoint, I'd like to see if there is some way to keep their nose out of my business. Anyone know of a way to keep AT&T out of my phone?
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To the OP, did you tether ever?
I am worried that innocent people will lose their unlmtd plan? We need to find out if their detection system is wrong?
Wait, I signed up for 2 lines around 3 or 4 months sgo and they said because I got the max 6gigs of data a month I could tether all I want. I haven't for more than 10 minutes but I have noticed that AT&T sales reps speak in half truths. I was told if I paid the 10 a month for insurance I could break it by throwing it at someone" Well I added my 2nd line 10 days later and only then found out about a $200 deductible. I was definitely never told about a high deductible upon signing with them. I dont hold back though. I had all prorated charges waived.
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DeMiNe0 said:
You could setup a linux machine at home and keep that running. Setup an SSH tunnel from your phone to your home linux box and tunnel all the tethering traffic through that. To AT&T that would just look like an encrypted ssh connection.
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That's exactly what I do and no problems thus far
Tethering detection has been discussed many times. The consensus is that they detect tethering by examining the TTL (Time-To-Live) value in the packet. When you tether a device, it shows a different TTL value than the one used in data packets sent by the phone and that's what they look for. There are other tricky things they can examine in the packet headers that can be used to detect tethering, but those are more complicated and take more effort on the part of the the wireless provider.
From what I read, it looks like SSH tunneling over a VPN would allow you to tether without detection, but I haven't heard of any definitive test on this. The biggest problem I see with that approach is that it really slows down your connection.
Here's a very technical paper that discusses tethering and methods to defeat it: Tethering Camouflage
These guys created a test app that rewrites packet data to hide tethering. In the article, they compare their method to using a VPN, which they imply will do the trick. Their opinion is that wireless providers will eventually give up on trying to enforce tethering restrictions because people will find ways to defeat it and it will cost them more than it's worth.
cyrano821 said:
That's exactly what I do and no problems thus far
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Same here got an ipcop firewall with open VPN Created certs for my mac and Android devices and no issues as of yet.
Found several references to this question but all outdated or not relevant to the Gnex... is there a way to restrict a search to a specific forum ie the Gnex forum?
I just discovered that my disconnected Droid X can still access the net and the Play store, etc. I want to use my Gnex phone to do that too; but worry that it won't know I'm on WiFi and chew up data, and get git with a big, unexpected, bill for excess data use.
Is there an app or a Widget that will turn off, or disable, Data use when there is an active WiFi connection? So that I don't have to remember to do it when I get home or leave home?
I wonder about public WiFi connections; I wonder if automating the process would be a good idea after all; unless there were a way to choose the WiFi connection to access.
ps It looks like I may have found the answer in "Data On-Off" :victory:
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Found several references to this question but all outdated or not relevant to the Gnex... is there a way to restrict a search to a specific forum ie the Gnex forum?
I just discovered that my disconnected Droid X can still access the net and the Play store, etc. I want to use my Gnex phone to do that too; but worry that it won't know I'm on WiFi and chew up data, and get git with a big, unexpected, bill for excess data use.
Is there an app or a Widget that will turn off, or disable, Data use when there is an active WiFi connection? So that I don't have to remember to do it when I get home or leave home?
I wonder about public WiFi connections; I wonder if automating the process would be a good idea after all; unless there were a way to choose the WiFi connection to access.
ps It looks like I may have found the answer in "Data On-Off" :victory:
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Great you found the "answer", reported this to moderation team for closing.
Why would you even bother to bump/report it 72 hours later? The thread was fine where it was.
good day.
chopper the dog said:
Why would you even bother to bump/report it 72 hours later? The thread was fine where it was.
good day.
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Because it had no replies; Because OP did not edit the title thread to include the [SOLVED] tag; Because the OP should have done it himself (reporting the thread for closing); Because it was 72h old, and not 3 months; I reported it to prevent the thread from being necrobumped, on a matter as trivial as this. If it's a 3rd party app OP was looking for, then this might even be more appropriate on Android General, since he "didn't want to remember" himself to shut data connection off, and there isn't a sw or a hw issue so..
Now, if my report didn't get this thread closed, this post (or the following) will.
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