Hi all,
Hopefully someone can shed some light on this and help a tortured soul. By no means am I an Android expert, but I definitely am not a noob. I had an S2 in the past and done plenty of flashing there, and now own a Bell SGH-I747M S3... my precious...
First off I tried a whole bunch of different ROMs, of all flavors (AOSP, AOKP, CM10, PARANOID, and some TW), and a lot of them are awesome. However, I found that after having done so much flashing and customizing using other people's work, it was now time for me and attempt to make my own ROM. I feel I now have the knowledge to do so. Don't get me wrong, I am far from a Dev, and I don't do much coding at all. I found this great suite called Android Kitchen, which pretty much guides you through the steps for making your own ROM, and it's great for learning.
In the end, I was able to come up with a final working version of my own ROM, built from scratch using the original official Bell JB 4.1.1 update file. and I have to say I am quite proud of it, as it has all the apps, features and theming that I want, and works quite well I might add. I get great results performance and battery wise (for my taste and needs) when using my ROM with KToonsez kernel.
BUT!!... as good as I think the ROM is, it is unfortunately not flawless. I do have an issue (the only one I could find so far after 2 weeks using it), and for me it is a BIG issue. Maps/Navigation does not seem to like the ROM/kernel combo on MY phone. I say MY phone because I have setup a friend with pretty much the same thing, and he is not experiencing the same issue.
Here is a description of the problem I get. Let's say I go to my contacts and select one with an address. I will touch the address, then Maps opens no problem, and finds the place, and I also get fast GPS lock, no issues there either. Then I will select Navigate to get a voice turn by turn description while driving. The Nav app starts OK as well and seems to work fine. Then after a few minutes (sometimes 2 sometimes 10), Navigation will shutdown, and I get a pop-up saying "Unfortunately Maps has stopped working...". When I OK that, after a few seconds, Navigation starts talking to me again, although not on screen. Also a Navigation icon will appear in the notification area, and if I hit that it resumes Nav, as if nothing had happened. Another few minutes like that, and then I get the same message again, but this time it crashes for good. ALWAYS!!
Troubleshooting:
- Flashed the ROM/Kernel 3 times now. Always wiping and formatting ALL!
- Cleared cache and data from Android Settings/Applications
- Cleared cache from Maps settings.
- Re-installed Maps
- Wiped phone cache, dalvik cache and fixed permissions from recovery.
- Changed kernel back to stock (that seems to work fine btw,, but I do not want stock kernel, plus the setup I want works well on my friend's S3, same as mine, which I setup myself for him (he's a total noob)).
- Changed kernel again from stock to KToonsez (that also works fine after that, however I get other things that start not working well... too many).
- I always wipe cache, dalvik cache and fix permissions after changing kernels.
I have been poking at this for about a week now, and I am tired! I was hoping someone would have a suggestion, maybe from past experience. The only thing I can think of that is different on his phone and mine is the apps that we restore after installing the ROM and kernel (Titanium Backup, user apps and data only, nothing related to system is touched). I am guessing one of my apps could cause a conflict, but pardon my laziness, but I really do not feel like testing / installing my apps one by one to hopefully without guarantee find a culprit... way too many apps for that So I am testing my luck here on XDA... there are a lot of smart people here
I appologize for the lenghty post, but this way, there is less chance I left anything out... PLEASE HELP!!!
Raz...
Sorry for the bump guys... I was really hoping someone can give some input here. Desperate for a solution here!!
Thanks
Related
On the newest modaco .. i find the htc_ime is really laggy when texting it makes it so difficult to text sometimes ! Does anyone know any fixes for this ? Even when ive used taskiller to kill all the other tasks it is still so slow. Please don't advise better keyboard i didn't find it helpful.
wipe & reflash
I tried that .. nothing .. epic fail... do you get decent texting speed?
i had this prob with many of the 2.1 roms, a pause between typing would be seen as a long press. making texting a real ordeal
i went back to modaco 3.1
all is good now
Yes, many 2.1 ROMs have this lag, but none of the MoDaCo ROMs .. they work perfectly!
I know it sounds stupid, but are you sure you'r using MoDaCo 3.1? I have never had any lag on the ROM at all. Even the keypad/keyboard. Where as that was laggy on stock 1.5 Sense and all of the 2.1 roms. But since i flashed MoDaCo all is good.
I am possitive i am using 3.1 ... i have always had this problem its been so laggy texting like ... if i write three words it will only be half way through the first word when im finished and il be waiting and generally when you rush it gets confused and starts changing your words to weird longer ones.
thanks for the thoughts thought but keep them coming! Come on
Im using modaco 3.1 and the only time mine ever gets laggy which is very rare is when my wifi is on. Otherwise texting runs like a dream or hero excuse the pun. I have read by turning the "vibrate when typing" off in the settings helps supposedly to speed it up a little. Otherwise i recommend like others before me, to do a full wipe and reflash also backup any important files you need to keep i.e nandroid etc that u have on the sd card and format it. Also wipe ext 2 or ext 3 if you are using it. As I had to after installing 3.1 as i found it a bit laggy in areas. Good luck.
completely removed ext partition remade it installed rom and still same lag... havent even put old stuff back on simcard..
Try this, install and use Advanced Task Killer there's a free version in android Market. Maybe you have an app that is hogging all your cpu just kill that app and try your texting. Although you shouldn't have since u wiped. Unless u installed any apps after that. If no joy hopefully one of the experienced devs could help you. Hope you get it sorted.
Tried taskiller aswell as that one damn..
You're not alone! I too suffer from obscene lag when texting at times (running MCR 3.1). I can type 6 or 7 words before the first is displayed and then watch them slowly appear. I also suffer from typing a word and it'll either be in all caps or the first few letters will be caps and the rest lower case. Oh and it can take forever and a day to actually open a message or flick between them with the widget.
I have two solutions when this happens to me, first off is reboot the phone, that quite often solves the issue, at least for a while. The second solution is to delete some messages. It seems the more messages you have, the slower the messaging app reacts. I deleted just over 1400 messages this morning and seem to have gone back up to full speed.
One other thing to note, if you are receiving / have just received or are sending / just sent a message, the app will be quite slow, or at least it is for me.
Florida.
tried deleting all the messages etc i think its the HTC_IME itself and not the messages... anyone know anything about that?
i encountered typing to be a little laggy, found that the phone is low on resources. something is running at background causing the usage to be 99% but i can't find any apps doing that (btw, im using smart monitor). typing also lag in ak notepad
when i go online, everything seems back normal. it seems that the phone is running some update or trying to... after going online, the lag is gone
the lag will happen again after every phone reboot
Any developers know anything ?
Hello, I have a weird situation on my hands here and was wondering if you might be able to help.
Firstly...
HTC incredible.
CM-7.0.3 stable (most recent)
CM kernel2.6.37.4 #27
Overckocled 1.1GHz
radio 2.15.00.09.01 (going to work now, need to update, just saw it was outdated)
Long story short.
my phone has been working fine, no issues whatsoever until yesterday. Yesterday my Market app and browser started crashing as soon as I started them.
Today more things are crashing, and at a much higher rate of failure. Normally I would just clear the cache, and the applications cache, and the problem would be fixed (this has been a problem in the past) however this is more than just one application.
popup error reporting reports that specific applications have failed (market, browser, etc), but I also get general "framework" crash popups. Ideas?
Side note. I am also noticing a very long startup time on restarts, much longer than in the past.
I have not made any recent changes to my phone (over-clocking, kernels, radios, ROMS) other than of course installing apps.
Warning message example.
com.android.market
com.google.processes.gapps
android.processes.media
Ideas
first thing i would do is clear cache and dalvik cache and try fixing permissions.
If those don't work which I won't be surprised if they don't I would...
clear all data and reflash the ROM. Quick and Painless with titanium backup.
I already cleared the caches and fixed permissions.
I know re-flashing everything will work, and I have doen that in the past, however I am really tired of it. It seems to be mort stable now, and almost fixed completely. (I didn't change anything after repair attempts stated above)
My question is really what ic causing this, and is there anything I can do to stop this from happening.
If this is something that happens all the time.... must be something you are specifically doing.
My friends inc was doin the same.thing. I couldn't even get into Rom manager or titanium. Never ran into that problem before in almost a year with the inc. Reflashing was the only thing that worked. As for the cause... its a computer. Computers don't need reasons to go hay wire.
There was a time my inc wouldn't stop rebooting... multiple times a day... very annoying. Did everything including goin back to stock. One day after a couple months of that crap.... it just stopped randomly rebooting...
Well...
Firstly I agree, but dont know why...
This happens with different severity levels on average .9 times a month.
The strange thing is that I do nothing specifically at the time to cause this. No kernel installs, reflashes, rom updates, radio updates, or anything specific. It is just general use. It is not as if this happens as soon as I do anything in particular.
Any thought on any specific configurations that might cause this to happen over time, or settings that I can change? I would understand this happening on a system update, or major change, but that does not seem to be the cause in this case, or any other times this has happened.
What I would do...
Go completely back to stock. Run that for a month. If it STILL happens... take it to Verizon to exchange for a new one cause this isn't normal.
Thats the thing...
Hmmm... I have considered doing that. I am not sure I want to go through the trouble. Any other thoughts? (assuming that the phone itself is fine for the sake of this thread.)
I've been running Nils' V2.2 ROM for several days now, and here's my observations (I'd have made these in the dev thread, but I'm still < 10 posts):
Initially, lots of force closes, but this settled down after a day or so. Occasional hot reboots hung on for another day, but stopped when I installed Tiny's kernel, enabled smartass, and enabled fast-boot. Now, I get an occasional FC on "System App", particularly when I'm playing with configurations, but other than the popup, I see no other side effects. Applications on the SD card are easily lost, and pretty difficult to get back to the SD. When I reinstall and try to move it to the SD again, I get failures once or twice, then it moves. Other than this, I find it a little more laggy than is really ideal. I did eventually overclock the high end, but this only improved the lag a little.
Other mods I installed are the black lock ring, the Rosie 5X4 app drawer, and WildStang83s Bunker Buster DTR.
So, that said, it's a really sexy ROM, and I can't wait to see what comes with V2.3.
First question, will flashing V2.3 wipe out the DTR mod? I'm assuming it will.
Next, if the DTR is wiped, can I flash the same one, or will V2.3 have changed enough that a new DTR is needed?
Thanks a bunch!
Lou
I have run a variant of the GingerSense ROM's for a month, haven't had any of the issues you raised.
Are you restoring anything to the ROM? Particularly system data along with an app?
Assume the appropriate HBOOT, cwm, and minimum radio are in place as well as ample room on the sd card?
Also assume complete wipes of data, caches, system, factory reset, boot, etc?
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA Premium App
smtom gave you your answer. If you are getting FC's or any other strange behavior because something like the wrong hboot or residue from the prior ROM is still there.
Follow the instructions in my first post to clean the system out and reflash.
Thank you both for the suggestions.
When I flashed 2.3 over 2.2, I did clear the cache and Dalvik *before* taking the backup, just to be safe, and it does seem a fair bit snappier now. Still not quite the interface speed I was seeing with stock Sense 1.0, but pretty close, and it really is so much cooler ...
As far as restoring system data, the first time I tried V2.2 (the day it was released), I did make the mistake of restoring some of the system stuff - like Mail accounts - I might even have inadvertently restored the old Mail app itself, which was clearly a dumb thing to do. It was my first non-stock ROM, so I suppose it can be chalked up to Newbie mistakes. Anyway, that resulted in a lot of ugliness that was obviously not your ROM, and I knew it. I was a lot more careful not to do anything so dumb the next time around, but I did get some instability anyway. Maybe something got left behind, I don't know.
Now, I limit restores to user apps and only restore data for some of the more annoying apps to set up - 1Password, DropBox, SugarSync, Facebook, things like that - not GMail, Mail, or contacts. I manually re-enter all the mail accounts and sync contacts from Google.
Wouldn't it be nice if Google gave you the option to track your app installs (free apps too, not just the paid ones) and gave you a batch re-install button?
I probably pushed my luck a little by flashing the DTR before rebooting from the ROM flash, but so far no problems at all.
When I do see a small lag in the homescreens, it seems to hang on for a second or two, then the phone seems to get itself in gear and the home screens flip like nobody's business. I still haven't put Tiny's kernel back on though. I'll stick with the stock version for awhile at least.
I do have SetCPU installed, set to on-demand from 245MHz to 998MHz. I haven't set up any profiles though. I know they are a bad idea with Tiny's kernel, and probably no problem with the stock Gingersense kernel, but I wanted to see how it works with the default configuration for awhile.
I am also using the 2.15.00.07.28 radio. I tried the leaked 2.15.10.07.07 version, but didn't find any improvement, so I went back.
My HBoot is 0.92.
I still haven't put the Rosie 5X4 app drawer back in. I was wondering if there's a way to disable the "paging" scrolling behavior and enable the smooth scrolling that Sense 1.0 used?
Thank you both again.
Nils, this seems like mostly minor updates, but whatever happened, it's a lot more snappy and stable for me now.
Cheers!
Lou
Yee haw! Appbrain will track and batch reinstall applications, fwiw.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA Premium App
Can't set my contact card image
It seems every time I try to reflash, some other minor thing comes up. Up to now, I was always getting the image I had set for my profile on Google with my contact card, and in my Handcent conversations.
Now, not only is my image not there, but I can't set it. Seems I can't set *any* of the contact images. At least before, I could modify my Google contact in the Google web interface, but now I'm not sure that would work.
I've tried fixing permissions through CWM (5.0.2.0), and even tried manually changing permissions on /data/data/com.android.providers.contacts.files/* to 666 as detailed here for a similar issue.
Any ideas what could cause this, or how I could fix it?
Thanks (again) in advance
Lou
Ive sort of tried to search this one (How do I search JUST the Epic 4g section of XDA??) and found no one describing this problem the way I do...
This is my second time having this issue, and the fix for it last time was a pain in the ass, so id like a new fix-
Every app, every aspect of my phone, continuously resets/reloads. This is most noticeable with Hancent SMS, as it saves a message as a draft when you close out of the app... Well, right now, ill be typing and "message saved as draft" will constantly pop up at the bottom of the screen (about once every 2 seconds), and the phone will lag and it will erase 1 or two characters(making me look like I cant type :silly: ).
If this was the only problem, maybe I could live with it, but it affects everything. Launcher Pro randomly/continuously resets. The notification bar often resets while trying to pull it down. The phone app will close or freeze as soon as I start receiving a call. Sometimes it'll play my ringtone without a way for me to answer, other times I never knew I missed a call unless they leave a voice mail... And sometimes its worse than others, sometimes its fine for an hour, then something goes stupid and even a reboot doesn't help. For instance, right now, it was happy. I launched aLogcat to check it out and now the screen orientation REFUSES to stay one way. Even setting the phone down, it switches directions every few seconds, which makes aLogcat reload and therefor its unusable.
I haven't mentioned what im running because Ive had this exact same issue on a totally different rom, almost a year ago, but im running-
build - SleeperROM_3.0.0_FC09
kernal - 2.6.35.7-Shadow-FC09_v1.0
baseband - S700.0.5s.FC09
firmware - 2.3.6
Ive had this happen on EB13 on the EpicExperience ROM too.
SOO, if anyone has advice on how to fix this, id be extremely interested.
On the other hand, last time I had this issue I was convinced it was a corrupt piece of memory somewhere early in the OS, something I corrupt during install, and I went ahead and reflashed and wiped and reflashed and wiped and returned to stock and etc. etc. etc... and that seemed to work... actually, I dont know exactly what part of the process fixed it, thats why I do not want to repeat it unless I have to... BUT, if someone would like to explain/point me in the right direction. I'd like to know how to DELETE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE and FLASH as CLEAN as possible. (that is, if no one else knows of a fix for my problem)
thanks all!
Err, well only thing I can think of is a truly clean install using Odin. This means do not restore any data from backups. Then slowly begin installing applications 1-by-1 through the play store website (for speed sake) to see if your issue creeps up again.
It also couldn't hurt to format your SD card too. Corrupt data on the SD card can cause some wonky things at times.
get another device...i hope u have the equipment protection plan
Thanks for the advice guys OFF TO THE ODIN MACHINE! haha.
This is a last-ditch effort to get some input before I go blow some money on a new phone. Hoping someone can help! It's possible that I haven't found an answer yet because what I'm doing is futile but I'll go through the story just in case...
Looks like quite a few internet people are having trouble with their HTC Incredible 2 cameras, and over Christmas I joined the fray. Upon launching camera or camcorder, I only see a black screen. The only thing I can think that could have prompted a camera failure was a short (<2ft) drop, but there’s no damage otherwise.
At first I tried but had no success with:
Restarting the phone
Clearing cache, clearing data, and/or force stop in Applications/Manage Applications/All/Camera/ (it’s running v3.00.000.120826.605 if that matters at all)
Restarting the phone in safe mode
Performing a factory reset
Unmounting SD card
Using diagnostic apps (some combination of doms diagnostic tools, androsensor, and msherlock) I’ve confirmed that although both front and rear cameras are recognized by the phone, accessing them for diagnosis freezes the diagnostic app. Strangely, the flash diagnostic tool freezes also, although the flashlight app works fine. Since I don’t think my drop could have busted both cameras and the flash at once, I guess there are two options: it DID wiggle loose a wire that does all the camera-related stuff, or it’s a software problem.
Since my warranty is a few months expired I figured I’d root the phone today, just to be double-dog sure it’s not something easily fixable. I followed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1931096, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1687590, used Android Commander to look at system files. On recommendation from http://androidforums.com/incredible-2-all-things-root/433350-camera-problem.html#post3361181, I tried to delete the current system/apps/HTCCamera.apk and replace with a different one; both one from http://www.teambamf.net/topic/1737-romgb-skyraider-zeus-13-inc2-update-11222011/ and also a standalone MiuiCamera.apk download were tried, but to no success.
I (attempt to) work with fortran77 during my day job so I can’t say I’m super happy to have blown a Saturday on yet more programming work. Unfortunately I’m a complete noob at this, and am not really sure how to further mess around with anything camera-related. It seems like the only thing I haven’t tried is to install a different ROM, but would it even be useful to do so? Have I missed anything? The Verizon agent I spoke to told me just to replace my phone, but since everything else works okay I wanted to be completely sure there wasn’t anything else I could do to fix the camera function. Does seem like I’m toast, though…
Thanks so much!
Excellent first post.
I have no idea how to help you. I would, However flash a ROM just to be sure. Tsm sense or andybonestock come to mind. It wouldn't hurt, you know?
Sent from my Incredible 2 using xda app-developers app
If that doesn't work try a aosp ROM like dkstunnas cm9 for a last ditch effort. I believe it interacts a Lil different with the camera then sense roms. Maybe
The camera is a replaceable part, so if you cant get it working a new one is less than $20.
Thanks for your suggestions!
I've learned a lot this week (like SMS Backup + should have been installed before the Verizon guy factory reset my phone...whoops, bye texts) and also tried to download "an app that uses the camera but not as a camera" as per http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36239149&postcount=2 but that didn't work.
Looking at videos that take apart Dinc2's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk91u3aqGAQ) I think replacing the camera would be quite outside my comfort zone...also, since both cameras and the flash refuse to work, that seems like a bigger job than I could handle. Unless they're like xmas lights where one goes out and they all go out, but still. I've only soldered maybe once in my life...
On to ROM switching, then. I used this tutorial to guide me through: http://www.incredibleforum.com/forum/htc-incredible-hacks/5514-flashing-roms-tutorial.html#post49612.
I've seen some threads about asop camera weirdness so I figured I'd try the strange one (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1932573) first. But, after a few different tries, I couldn’t get it to work…just got stuck on the white htc screen. After 25 minutes of waiting, I pulled out the battery and did the power-voldown thing to get to a menu. Then did a clockworkmod restore and tried andybonestock (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392516) instead, which was successful in booting but not successful in starting my camera (BOO, but who is surprised). Went back to the asop a few more times (aeroevan kernel v14 and v15) as I’m thinking it has the best shot at a camera back door, but I just couldn’t get it to flash. White screen every time. I thought about doing ViperINC (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1953899) just for some variety but it uses more things I’m not familiar with (twrp? aroma? boot.img?) and I’m feeling done with this for the day. In any case it was a long shot, and if one ROM flash and a bunch of data clearing didn’t help, probably nothing will.
Looking like I may use this phone as a backup VOIP in the apartment (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34335798&postcount=20). Off to probably get an Incredible 4G LTE. Maybe all of the steps outlined in this thread will help someone with a less-severe camera issue…