please be patient, im new. i've just flashed a custom rom onto my galaxy w for the first time (cm9 rc1 using cm6) and was wondering if there are any barebones roms (that are based on stock?) available, something similar to the extreme barebones version of this, which i have on my galaxy ace:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1806471
i've looked through all the roms listed on this page
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941028
and non of them seem that 'slim'. i saw the thread about slim bean 3.1.0 and have that ready to try next, but wondered if there was anything else.
Thanks!
ps. with cm10, whats the difference between the two kernal types, 2.6 and 3? can i just go for 3?
000lqm said:
please be patient, im new. i've just flashed a custom rom onto my galaxy w for the first time (cm9 rc1 using cm6) and was wondering if there are any barebones roms (that are based on stock?) available, something similar to the extreme barebones version of this, which i have on my galaxy ace:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1806471
i've looked through all the roms listed on this page
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941028
and non of them seem that 'slim'. i saw the thread about slim bean 3.1.0 and have that ready to try next, but wondered if there was anything else.
Thanks!
ps. with cm10, whats the difference between the two kernal types, 2.6 and 3? can i just go for 3?
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All our GB roms are based on stock.
After GB Samsung stopped developing for our phone, they said ICS would be too heavy. Arco did a miracle and made the ICS and JB work.
The difference is that kernel 2 Haas a working cam but no project butter(not as smooth as the real JB) and kernel 3 doesn't have a working cam but has a full project butter(smooth and fast as HELL)
You choose between camera and smoothness. And btw kernel 2 is also fast and smooth, but 3 is better and faster.
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All our GB roms are based on stock.
After GB Samsung stopped developing for our phone, they said ICS would be too heavy. Arco did a miracle and made the ICS and JB work.
The difference is that kernel 2 Haas a working cam but no project butter(not as smooth as the real JB) and kernel 3 doesn't have a working cam but has a full project butter(smooth and fast as HELL)
You choose between camera and smoothness. And btw kernel 2 is also fast and smooth, but 3 is better and faster.
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hi thanks for explaining, i didnt realise any of that... i genuinely feel thankful for the work Acros done now. I installed slimbean and am loving it so far! but will try cm10 too and might see if i can cope without a camera...i think my question was naive now that i have had time with these roms.
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hi thanks for explaining, i didnt realise any of that... i genuinely feel thankful for the work Acros done now. I installed slimbean and am loving it so far! but will try cm10 too and might see if i can cope without a camera...i think my question was naive now that i have had time with these roms.
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Slightly off-topic, but we W-ers are very lucky to have Sir Arco68 on our side...
The CusROM scene was stagnating before Sir Arco got his hands dirty and proved beyond any reasonable doubt that ICS (and JB) can run great on our 'underpowered' (that's what non-W-ers say) phone.
When ICS reached a (relatively) stable level (Beta 1, IIRC), the modding community got jumpstarted, and various CusROMs started appearing. When JB was released, the modding community went into overdrive, and now we have a plethora of options.
And the forum is now getting much more active; note the amount of new *daily* questions in the Q&A forum. In fact, the GT-I8150 forum is quite active that 'the powers that be' decided that more moderators are needed.
Now we're back to bickering about which CusROM to use
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Slightly off-topic, but we W-ers are very lucky to have Sir Arco68 on our side...
The CusROM scene was stagnating before Sir Arco got his hands dirty and proved beyond any reasonable doubt that ICS (and JB) can run great on our 'underpowered' (that's what non-W-ers say) phone.
When ICS reached a (relatively) stable level (Beta 1, IIRC), the modding community got jumpstarted, and various CusROMs started appearing. When JB was released, the modding community went into overdrive, and now we have a plethora of options.
And the forum is now getting much more active; note the amount of new *daily* questions in the Q&A forum. In fact, the GT-I8150 forum is quite active that 'the powers that be' decided that more moderators are needed.
Now we're back to bickering about which CusROM to use
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its really interesting to read all this... i do genuinely feel thankful that all this stuff is out there for our phone (which i like it a lot ...... its also interesting though, as i guess these things move in cycles, like a bell curve or whatever. at some point in the future i will end up getting a new phone and then will be looking on another board instead of this one, and may be that will happen at a time when lots of other people are doing the same thing, and slowly there will be a decline here, just like there is a growth at the moment. and our poor little phone will eventually be obsolete.
discovering all this stuff now, and also being able to compare the experience of flashing roms on my galaxy ace to my w, makes me wonder what the situation is like for something like the s3.. as if i had just waited a little bit, i wouldn't have asked the original question in this thread. i can see the difference in capabilities between the ace and w, and how the kind of rom i was initially wanting for the w, isnt actually what i want. after having slimbean even just for a few days, i wouldnt want to go back to the stock rom i had on it before. i couldnt see that at the beginning though.
im curious to wonder, what made acro do the work he did? there must be a lot of crossover somewhere between the knowledge needed to produce the things for our phone, and other things that you can do once you know that stuff.
000lqm said:
its really interesting to read all this... i do genuinely feel thankful that all this stuff is out there for our phone (which i like it a lot ...... its also interesting though, as i guess these things move in cycles, like a bell curve or whatever. at some point in the future i will end up getting a new phone and then will be looking on another board instead of this one, and may be that will happen at a time when lots of other people are doing the same thing, and slowly there will be a decline here, just like there is a growth at the moment. and our poor little phone will eventually be obsolete.
discovering all this stuff now, and also being able to compare the experience of flashing roms on my galaxy ace to my w, makes me wonder what the situation is like for something like the s3.. as if i had just waited a little bit, i wouldn't have asked the original question in this thread. i can see the difference in capabilities between the ace and w, and how the kind of rom i was initially wanting for the w, isnt actually what i want. after having slimbean even just for a few days, i wouldnt want to go back to the stock rom i had on it before. i couldnt see that at the beginning though.
im curious to wonder, what made acro do the work he did? there must be a lot of crossover somewhere between the knowledge needed to produce the things for our phone, and other things that you can do once you know that stuff.
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I'm too lazy to read all those words but I will answer the last questions.
Couple of things, because he knew he was capable of doing it, because Samsung left us, because no else did it, because he wanted to help its and give us this great gift.
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It also helped that ARCO ownes a W (AFAIK)....
From what I've read, he was already an accomplished dev before the W came along....so he would have been able to apply those established skills to the W's framework.....all I can say is thank goodness Arco got a W and not another phone otherwise..........who knows..
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It also helped that ARCO ownes a W (AFAIK)....
From what I've read, he was already an accomplished dev before the W came along....so he would have been able to apply those established skills to the W's framework.....all I can say is thank goodness Arco got a W and not another phone otherwise..........who knows..
Sent from my CM10 powered Wonder with Tapatalk 2......it's all good......
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Hahaha... the article on XDA Portal provides a good reason, then:
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7amada100 said:
I'm too lazy to read all those words but I will answer the last questions.
Couple of things, because he knew he was capable of doing it, because Samsung left us, because no else did it, because he wanted to help its and give us this great gift.
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keithross39 said:
It also helped that ARCO ownes a W (AFAIK)....
From what I've read, he was already an accomplished dev before the W came along....so he would have been able to apply those established skills to the W's framework.....all I can say is thank goodness Arco got a W and not another phone otherwise..........who knows..
Sent from my CM10 powered Wonder with Tapatalk 2......it's all good......
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i love how fate works....im curious now though, how difficult is it, to do what Acro did? remember i have no knowledge at all of developing, or even what it really is. now that he's done it, is it difficult to see what he did and how he did it? where do you start to learn that kind of thing?
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i love how fate works....im curious now though, how difficult is it, to do what Acro did? remember i have no knowledge at all of developing, or even what it really is. now that he's done it, is it difficult to see what he did and how he did it? where do you start to learn that kind of thing?
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It's going to take time to know how difficult it was, but you could know some stuff by looking at the change log of cm9 ICS.
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Quick background about my flashing habits before we begin. My first Android phone was the G2, and I really liked it but wanted something with more power. About a year later I "upgraded" to the Sensation and immediately I was taken aback by how awful Sense is/was. It became my mission to get back to the pure Android feel and so I found the (original) HNS ROMs. Those were great, and that phone lives on today as my wifes primary device. Now I have a Gnex, and my "problem" is that it comes out of the box the way it took me a year+ to get my Sensation so there isnt much I want to change. Roughly 2 weeks ago I decided to flash CM9 to see what all the hype is about, and I can honestly say I dont see what the big deal is. Sure, I can change the governor and modify the LED for specific notifications but as far as I can tell thats about all you can do. Clearly there are other 'under the hood' modifications but none of them are immediately evident to me at least, and so I am about to flash JB.
Am I missing something huge that CM9 does that JB doesnt not? Is my analysis totally off? Let me know if JB is a mistake and if I should have stuck with CM9 in the comments below!
webmaster said:
Quick background about my flashing habits before we begin. My first Android phone was the G2, and I really liked it but wanted something with more power. About a year later I "upgraded" to the Sensation and immediately I was taken aback by how awful Sense is/was. It became my mission to get back to the pure Android feel and so I found the (original) HNS ROMs. Those were great, and that phone lives on today as my wifes primary device. Now I have a Gnex, and my "problem" is that it comes out of the box the way it took me a year+ to get my Sensation so there isnt much I want to change. Roughly 2 weeks ago I decided to flash CM9 to see what all the hype is about, and I can honestly say I dont see what the big deal is. Sure, I can change the governor and modify the LED for specific notifications but as far as I can tell thats about all you can do. Clearly there are other 'under the hood' modifications but none of them are immediately evident to me at least, and so I am about to flash JB.
Am I missing something huge that CM9 does that JB doesnt not? Is my analysis totally off? Let me know if JB is a mistake and if I should have stuck with CM9 in the comments below!
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It doesn't work for you, then ok. Nobody is going to convince you to use a specific ROM. Its YOUR preference and YOUR phone, so do as you please or better yet, make your own ROM the way you want. If you read you would know people like CM9 for its stability.
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Only change governor and led??? Are we talking about the same CM9?
CM9 have way more customization options than that.
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It doesn't work for you, then ok. Nobody is going to convince you to use a specific ROM. Its YOUR preference and YOUR phone, so do as you please or better yet, make your own ROM the way you want. If you read you would know people like CM9 for its stability.
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Dont get me wrong, I am not knocking CM9 in any way. However, I can tell you I had zero issue with the stock ICS build my phone came either. I am hoping JB proves to be just as stable.
lol a troll thread it is. nobody are allowed to blame CM. best android community ever! and now AOKP is also emerging. how dare you insult the only dev community that give free support for your device. you dont like it go away and keep it yourself. no need to tell it here. use stock rom and go play outside.
EDIT : ok... but still, whats your point of this thread? you want to try JB then go ahead. and since your stock ICS is working well just stick with it and wait for JB OTA. CM are already working on JB, its gonna be CM10. you dont follow news regularly i suppose... CM9 was started from scratch with no features for your info. and its still in RC! what do you expect....
SocialReject said:
Only change governor and led??? Are we talking about the same CM9?
CM9 have way more customization options than that.
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Agreed, but how many of them are actually useful and not just "cool"? After reviewing every single feature of the ROM I couldnt find anything else I thought was worth while. If you have specific examples please let me know, as I spent hours making the decision to ditch CM9 and I hope I made the right choice.
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Agreed, but how many of them are actually useful and not just "cool"? After reviewing every single feature of the ROM I couldnt find anything else I thought was worth while. If you have specific examples please let me know, as I spent hours making the decision to ditch CM9 and I hope I made the right choice.
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Stock ICS > CM9?
You're delusional.
Jelly Bean would've been a better argument because of project butter.
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SocialReject said:
Stock ICS > CM9?
You're delusional.
Jelly Bean would've been a better argument because of project butter.
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Correct, I am not running JB and I am making the comparison between it and CM9. I personally found nothing unstable in stock ICS however.
lol mate you can always try any roms easily. this is nexus device. you dont have to think long to ditch a rom... and we have nandroid too..
LuffyPSP said:
lol a troll thread it is. nobody are allowed to blame CM. best android community ever! and now AOKP is also emerging. how dare you insult the only dev community that give free support for your device. you dont like it go away and keep it yourself. no need to tell it here. use stock rom and go play outside.
EDIT : ok... but still, whats your point of this thread? you want to try JB then go ahead. and since your stock ICS is working well just stick with it and wait for JB OTA. CM are already working on JB, its gonna be CM10. you dont follow news regularly i suppose... CM9 was started from scratch with no features for your info. and its still in RC! what do you expect....
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Who is "insulting" CM team?? I have used their products for years and I think they do a great job. The purpose of this thread (if you bothered to read it) was to determine if I will be missing any functionality of CM9 by moving to JB. Assuming you are not currently using JB, then I respectfully ask you to move along and comment elsewhere. This thread is for people who have used both ROMs, and can comment about the differences. Please troll elsewhere LuffyPSP.
Not yet having a Nexus, I can see how CM9 wouldn't be such a big deal since you're coming from AOSP already. But for those of us running manufacturer-skinned-and-bloated devices, CM9 is really amazing. Lets us basically run Nexus software on better hardware.
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Not yet having a Nexus, I can see how CM9 wouldn't be such a big deal since you're coming from AOSP already. But for those of us running manufacturer-skinned-and-bloated devices, CM9 is really amazing. Lets us basically run Nexus software on better hardware.
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You nailed it right there, and that was the premise of my first post. Coming from a Sense "enhanced" device the AOSP experience was priceless and amazing. However once you are already running a pure Google experience (stock ICS ona Gnex) there is much less to improve upon. Hence my movement from CM9 to JB, and hence the thread you are now reading. Some people here need to relax and have a civil discussion (not you, some of the others)!
Was this thread really needed? Cm9 is a great rom remember what your parents should of told you if you have nothing good to say then do not say anything at all. So shhhh
Travisdroidx2 said:
Was this thread really needed? Cm9 is a great rom remember what your parents should of told you if you have nothing good to say then do not say anything at all. So shhhh
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Wow, I guess we are back in kindergarten or something? I never once said a single negative thing about CM9. This thread is to discuss what features CM9 lacks that JB has, or the other way around. Do people even bother to read the thread before they chime in?
everybody is entitled to their opinion. And a ROM preference comes down to just that.
(without comparing features and what-not)
CM is living history in the world of Android development, specifically custom ROMs. I ran CM back on my original Droid when Koush first ported it (having to come up with ClockworkMod Recovery just to be able to do so, so that's one big thing that came about as an indirect result of CM). But Cyanogen was the first one to build a ROM from source, something that was a LOT harder back when he started. Many of Android's features were found in his ROMs first. While you may prefer this ROM or that, you should know that the CM team's impact on the android development community is only surpassed by Google itself (and it's by a narrow margin IMO). The CyanogenMod team is absolutely legendary and deserves more respect than that
as far as comparing CM9 to JB, it's apples to oranges. You won't see a CM JB ROM until source is released, that's how they work. And even still, it'll be a while before they get their ROM compiled, stable, and feature-packed
Came across this thread by accident... I think the users here was misled by the thread title... Anyway, i get what youre saying though about running aosp stock and cm9... You feel like youre not missing anything when running stock... Im not sure about stock ics but i think CM9 have alot of under the hood tweaks compare to stock... They may not be noticable to see but they are there hidden in codes ... May i say enhance in coding... Maybe wait for CM10, the wait will be worth it
Edit: apologize in advance if i misunderstood you
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Different folks different strokes. Glad you tried both and chose the one that works for you. Nothing wrong with stock.
martonikaj said:
Different folks different strokes. Glad you tried both and chose the one that works for you. Nothing wrong with stock.
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The post that nailed it all.
I enjoy stock. Nothing wrong there. I enjoy CM9. Nothing wrong there. I don't enjoy AOKP. Nothing wrong there.
52brandon said:
You won't see a CM JB ROM until source is released, that's how they work. And even still, it'll be a while before they get their ROM compiled, stable, and feature-packed
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I remember when you would see CM before you would see the official ROM from Google... that was back during the G1 days... ah good times... Back then, he would release a basic rooted ROM then work out the extra features and bugs as he went along... but of course back then there was only one Android device, (and later only two or three) so it was easier.
The proliferation of different Android devices has really slowed down the CM development cycle. We are just now seeing a RC for CM9 and JB is already out in the wild.
CM has really influenced Android development as a whole... many features that come stock in Android today were first done by CM and then adopted into AOSP. I remember when Google Devs were asked at a press conference about specific features for a specific device... and they said "We won't do them, ask Cyanogen." Those guys have a lot of respect for Cyanogen, even way back when he worked on his own, and now he heads a huge team of Devs that rivals Google's in house team. (if not even larger)
There are a lot of little features that CM does that AOSP still doesn't and even others do not. Adjusting auto brightness settings are one I really like (especially on AMOLED screens) and also the color balance controls that help correct colors on AMOLED. There are other little tweaks and settings that you can do... and lots of code tweaks. Google must try to balance many aspects (performance/battery/multiple devices/differing hardware) with their code, but CM can focus on certain performance goals (in regards to all the mentioned aspects) and each version can be tweaked for its target device more than AOSP.
Basically CM is making AOSP the best it can be on the supported devices.
Marine6680 said:
I remember when you would see CM before you would see the official ROM from Google... that was back during the G1 days... ah good times... Back then, he would release a basic rooted ROM then work out the extra features and bugs as he went along... but of course back then there was only one Android device, (and later only two or three) so it was easier.
The proliferation of different Android devices has really slowed down the CM development cycle. We are just now seeing a RC for CM9 and JB is already out in the wild.
CM has really influenced Android development as a whole... many features that come stock in Android today were first done by CM and then adopted into AOSP. I remember when Google Devs were asked at a press conference about specific features for a specific device... and they said "We won't do them, ask Cyanogen." Those guys have a lot of respect for Cyanogen, even way back when he worked on his own, and now he heads a huge team of Devs that rivals Google's in house team. (if not even larger)
There are a lot of little features that CM does that AOSP still doesn't and even others do not. Adjusting auto brightness settings are one I really like (especially on AMOLED screens) and also the color balance controls that help correct colors on AMOLED. There are other little tweaks and settings that you can do... and lots of code tweaks. Google must try to balance many aspects (performance/battery/multiple devices/differing hardware) with their code, but CM can focus on certain performance goals (in regards to all the mentioned aspects) and each version can be tweaked for its target device more than AOSP.
Basically CM is making AOSP the best it can be on the supported devices.
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exactly. Hell, I think CM is the sole reason I even joined this forum when theming my D1 after Koush ported CM on another forum (I think alldroid or something like that initially). I remember the first experiments with JIT, and wow it was a ***** to get onto the D1 lol. I can't wait to see them play with JB when source drops. Cyanogen is your favorite developer's favorite developer
the long waited tegra 2 ics is now available so means the drivers to put HWA into function is available too...is it mean that a full working CM10 (or jellybean) rom will be developed soon seems all the crucial drivers are available now...
but 1 thing i found that there are less strong or experienced developers are using the glide as their phone and cause us have less power custom roms and kernels...
maybe we need to promote our phone to those optimus 2x and galaxy r developers...they have strong devs there...cause the devs were using those phone which is much popular and familiar than the glide, but they have lower hardware spec, no keyboard and with 512 only ram...and the devs did a good job on optimized them...
i believe our phone will be freaking STRONG if there are numbers of devs willing to optimized it...
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the long waited tegra 2 ics is now available so means the drivers to put HWA into function is available too...is it mean that a full working CM10 (or jellybean) rom will be developed soon seems all the crucial drivers are available now...
but 1 thing i found that there are less strong or experienced developers are using the glide as their phone and cause us have less power custom roms and kernels...
maybe we need to promote our phone to those optimus 2x and galaxy r developers...they have strong devs there...cause the devs were using those phone which is much popular and familiar than the glide, but they have lower hardware spec, no keyboard and with 512 only ram...and the devs did a good job on optimized them...
i believe our phone will be freaking STRONG if there are numbers of devs willing to optimized it...
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Yes but people are usually interested in the hardware they have purchased. So how do you get someone who does not have the hardware interested in helping us out? Please recall even DMan had someone lone him a phone for him to help out. The glide is a great phone but unfortunately has not sold as much, as other popular phones.
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Yes but people are usually interested in the hardware they have purchased. So how do you get someone who does not have the hardware interested in helping us out? Please recall even DMan had someone lone him a phone for him to help out. The glide is a great phone but unfortunately has not sold as much, as other popular phones.
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maybe we can gift a GLIDE to devs like owain94 from optimus 2x or arcee...they are strong devs and they have a real good base knowledge on tegra 2 device...
We have dman workng on a rom as we speak... this should of been posted in the general section to btw
I suspect he is but has dman said he is working on a new ROM? I'm curious if he is making his own ROM or porting CM. I think Inception was just a stripped down official version of 2.3.5. I would love to see a CM 10 port and not just a repacked stripped ROM.
Oh my gosh with all the discussions about this. BE PATIENT. You all have no idea how much time it takes. Take a look at Inception. It took 1 week just to theme. If you want a stable, JB rom for bounty, the Collective doesn't release half ass working JB builds. Take a look
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Jellybean will be coming soon.. but only when its stable.. no need to release a half ass working build.. just an update.. we are known for stability, not for being the first to the finish line, quality is our goal...:thumbup:
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Please forgive me, I'm sorry for being harsh but I've seen so many threads about this in such a short period of time. Dman and his team the Collective dev for 4-5 devices. I've been learning dev for 6 months and so far all I can do is basic tweaking to apks and decompiling them, as well as putting them in a zip.
Seriously. Just be patient, some of you. Reported for moving, btw
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This is not a port. It's compiling from source. 10 times harder and time consuming. But less chance for bugs.
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Inception was made without the device. It would've been near impossible to build AOSP blindly. (AOSP is pure, vanilla, Android)
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This is not an opinion poll. The devs make it how they like it, you're lucky they post it for you. They could just keep it to themselves. Feature requests are always good, but not "I like CM but I don't want a stripped modified ROM"
Thanks
After having spent the past 5 hours flashing various kernels/ROMs in my gf's xperia x10 mini pro due to various bugs, I will have to agree - in the end, stability is a must, and I am certain dman is working his magic as we speak, no need to get impatient
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Everyone is being patient. Were thankful to have any devs working on this device. I just havent seen any posts directly from dman about what he's working on for the Glide. I could have missed the post, thats why I asked. But it would be cool to see a post directly from him about it and not just speculation.
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No matter how patient everyone is being, these types of threads still keep getting started in Development. They do not belong there. They belong in General. Keep them in general. Thank you for your cooperation.
Please, everyone, just take a sit, grab a drink, and wait for dman to do his magic
I'm all for quality over a rushed job. Dev'ing is hard, especially for an under-popular device like our own. Fewer fellow devs to help out and carry the load, and more people putting the pressure on because they're impatiently excited.
Give the devs their time, it will be alright. I'm still happy with INCEPTIONv1, more so than the leaked ICS.
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CM10 Beta for Samsung Captivate Glide
OP update the post!!!!
So Im still waiting on the shipment of a new A100 Ima give my 8 y.o. lil mama for christmas. I need enough time so I could customize it to my liking for her to use. She's pretty techy for her age so I problably will not be limiting so many things on her A100. As of now I own a Samsung Galaxy II (Hercules) rooted with a custom ROM with my own personal theme for it. I also own a 10.1" Toshiba Thrive tablet (great device) also rooted with a custom ROM and with my own personal theme. I pretty much know whats up and I understand that I better read, read, and READ before I ask that universal anoying question "What's the best ROM for my device"....BUT if there is things I need to know about this device that wont be really out there for me to read in plain view then I would appreciate any input from you people. Thx ahead and I look forward to checking out all the goodies
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So Im still waiting on the shipment of a new A100 Ima give my 8 y.o. lil mama for christmas. I need enough time so I could customize it to my liking for her to use. She's pretty techy for her age so I problably will not be limiting so many things on her A100. As of now I own a Samsung Galaxy II (Hercules) rooted with a custom ROM with my own personal theme for it. I also own a 10.1" Toshiba Thrive tablet (great device) also rooted with a custom ROM and with my own personal theme. I pretty much know whats up and I understand that I better read, read, and READ before I ask that universal anoying question "What's the best ROM for my device"....BUT if there is things I need to know about this device that wont be really out there for me to read in plain view then I would appreciate any input from you people. Thx ahead and I look forward to checking out all the goodies
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Here's as great thread with a ton of info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711125
Its pretty much going to give you all the info you need.
If you want something rock solid stable and everything works check out Relix flex reaper ICS ROM (probably ideal for a youngster). Set and forget it. I also recommend linuxsociety's twrp 2.2.2.1 recovery (relix already has his kernel). He implemented some tweaks to help prevent bricking.
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THX Ro. I will start there.
Yw. There are a few updates since that thread was written, most can be found in the dev section. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions.
Romman0 said:
Here's as great thread with a ton of info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711125
Its pretty much going to give you all the info you need.
If you want something rock solid stable and everything works check out Relix flex reaper ICS ROM (probably ideal for a youngster). Set and forget it. I also recommend linuxsociety's twrp 2.2.2.1 recovery (relix already has his kernel). He implemented some tweaks to help prevent bricking.
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I wouldn't call flex rock solid by far.
It as well as any cm9 based ROM have all kinds of app compatability issues. Which i don't find on CM10. Seeing as how it is for a child, they will want games, which is soley what i use my tab for. Streaming video as well.
Save yourself the headache and just flash CM10.
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justjackyl said:
I wouldn't call flex rock solid by far.
It as well as any cm9 based ROM have all kinds of app compatability issues. Which i don't find on CM10. Seeing as how it is for a child, they will want games, which is soley what i use my tab for. Streaming video as well.
Save yourself the headache and just flash CM10.
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As of right now I still haven't checked out what ROMs are avialable for the A100. Im a fan of original-source-based ROMs so any CM based ROMs I wont be checking out unless there are issues with the before mentioned ROMs. Thx for the recomendation though! I got lots to read I know.
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As of right now I still haven't checked out what ROMs are avialable for the A100. Im a fan of original-source-based ROMs so any CM based ROMs I wont be checking out unless there are issues with the before mentioned ROMs. Thx for the recomendation though! I got lots to read I know.
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If by original source you mean factory, then its AOSP. CM is as based on AOSP as stock roms. Mods that devs do to CM pulls it further from its AOSP base, and is usually where the bugs come up.
Entirely up to you of course, but I wouldn't discount CM10 so easily, its been rock solid for me since source dropped and I started building my ROMs, your A100 will never feel faster. I'd be hard pressed to say any stock based ROM is more stable then cm10, and they are for sure not as fast or smooth. Just my opinion, but keep an open mind.
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If by original source you mean factory, then its AOSP. CM is as based on AOSP as stock roms. Mods that devs do to CM pulls it further from its AOSP base, and is usually where the bugs come up.
Entirely up to you of course, but I wouldn't discount CM10 so easily, its been rock solid for me since source dropped and I started building my ROMs, your A100 will never feel faster. I'd be hard pressed to say any stock based ROM is more stable then cm10, and they are for sure not as fast or smooth. Just my opinion, but keep an open mind.
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By original source based I meant the latest stock released by Acer for the A100. Sorry I might it said it wrong and I could see why "original" should of meant AOSP. Trust me Im gonna check a few out cuz I wanna settle with the one with least bugs no matter how tweaked it is for the fact that Im not going to be the one using it all the time.
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I agree cm10 is a very nice ROM. It is what I am using now. I recommended relix due to its out of box reliability. I have some app issues on cm that are not apparent on ics, so it is all user/app dependent. Cm10 does have its bugs, but it is the latest, greatest and quickest, which is what most of us power users want.
I definitely recommend checking them both out.
I'm saying CM10 over any ICS because i am a heavy gamer on my tablet. I figured a child is going to be more interested in games than anything else.
If thats the case, nearly half my games crash on any ICS /CM9 ROM I have tried, even Acer stock.
Using CM10, I would say maybe 3 out of like 40-50 games, don't play.
ICS/CM9...half of these games crash.
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So I've been reading alot. I'm really disappointed on what I've read about the A100 in terms of hardware (battery, screen responsiveness, that scary emmc bug). I'm starting to regret I ordered in the first place but it was a good deal. A while back I had read good reviews on the A500 and I thought the A100 would be no different. Oh well I really don't want to turn back now. I'll just hope for the best and hopefully I won't run into any issues that will disappoint my lil one with her Xmas gift.
As for what ROM to install, it boiled down to the two mentioned in this thread. I said before that I prefer ROMs based on the official release for that specific device (Flex Reaper I believe) just cuz I always felt it would be the most stable since it was made for that device itself. Now I keep reading that alot of you prefer CM10 but I'm not sure if it is because IT IS more stable (as in everything in the A100 that suppose to work, WORKS) or its just cuz its Jelly Bean (the newest n greatest thing) and its more customizable than ICS. I prefer for everything that suppose to work...to work. I don't like flashing a new ROMs just cuz its the newest thing out there but lets say "bluetooth" its not working as good as the ROM I had before (YES I'm still on GB on my SGSII cuz the ROM its rock solid and EVERYTHING WORKS!). Now knowing that I'm gonna give this to my 8 year old daughter, I needed to be as stable as possible. If I could get some honest opinion between these two ROMs based on what I said I would be really thankful from you great people. THX ahead!!
If you are worried about the emmc bug. Your best defense is linuxsociety's kernel in the dev section, and his twrp 2.2.2.1 recovery. He has implemented changes that could prevent the bricking. If you bought the tablet new and you get a brick, they will warranty it, just make sure you keep your serial number safe. With these bricks they can't tell or don't care about the flashing ROMs.
Seems everyones given their opinions bub.
Make a decision already. Lol
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justjackyl said:
Seems everyones given their opinions bub.
Make a decision already. Lol
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:laugh: I know, I know...Its just that I'm gonna flash it just once and then give it to my daughter...I just wanna make sure I made the right choice
...btw I just got it today and I did noticed that weird viewing angle...well its updated to ICS so gotta make that choice...
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:laugh: I know, I know...Its just that I'm gonna flash it just once and then give it to my daughter...I just wanna make sure I made the right choice
...btw I just got it today and I did noticed that weird viewing angle...well its updated to ICS so gotta make that choice...
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It took me 3 days to make that choice out of box. lol
Never looked back or regretted it, and hopefully the emmc protection measures work!
So I think Im gonna go with Flex Reaper (please don't shoot me Jackyl ). I gotta ICS theme for my Thrive that Im gonna try to port it to this but in turquoise since its my lil mamas favorite color...hopefully everything will be ok. Thank all yall for your support...Ima shut up and start flashing :laugh:.
Well...its not like you can't change it if it fails to meet your expectations!
Good luck!
Read througly before unlocking bootloader, rooting and flashing.
Piomasakis guide is the best thing here for out a100 FAQ.
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justjackyl said:
Well...its not like you can't change it if it fails to meet your expectations!
Good luck!
Read througly before unlocking bootloader, rooting and flashing.
Piomasakis guide is the best thing here for out a100 FAQ.
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THX for all your help Jackyl.
Man everything went like butter. Following PioMasaki's gide makes it almost impossible to mess up. Remind me to buy ZeroNull a beer and a lap dance if I ever get to meet him...
Now its time to work on a theme for it...
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Man everything went like butter. Following PioMasaki's gide makes it almost impossible to mess up. Remind me to buy ZeroNull a beer and a lap dance if I ever get to meet him...
Now its time to work on a theme for it...
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Yeah!!!!
Ya pios is how i set mine up..
Like butter...
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Hi guys,
So for the past week I think I have at least wiped/flashed/Odin'd different ROMs for my new Captivate Glide at least a hundred times. I've finally settled on thegreatergood's LiteROM 0.9.0 and it's working great for me. Not only the one ROM though as I've had to find many workarounds for different things. Flashables/kernels/apks you name it. Although I have no regrets and I'm really proud of how It's like a beast in my pocket, I am quite bothered by one thing which is that the whole thing feels like a big piece of patchwork..
Coming from a HTC Desire Z running CM7 serving me loyally for many years, I miss that officiality (<-- oops, red snakes.. not sure that's a word. Whatever. Shakespeare made his own words too right? ) and the stability that CM7 offered.
I'm a humble man, and possibly carry the apologetic traits of a typical Canadian. Instead of whining and/or nagging some senior developer to hurry up on their ICS or JB development I've decided to build my own CM instead.
However some thought, I think the reason why the JB based experimental CM 10.1s for the Captivate Glide have been a difficult task is because it's probably quite a challenge to build something from something that's not currently very well understood, namely the JB. So I thought, why not just build I nice and stable ROM based off of GB and if it does well it could probably officiated as a CM7 port for the Captivate Glide.
I have a feeling that this is a very plausible task. But I have no way to do it alone.. I have zilch experience in development in anything, had to drop out of my C++ course and have been doing nothing but lurking and leeching since I started modding when I was eleven. All I have is a vision. If someone could point me in the right direction or even form a development team with me, I would be very grateful.
And if this goes well, I will have gained some long overdue experience
So.. Anyone?
P.S. I guess this goes in this forum too. But my phone gets real angry when I flash certain things onto it. The biggest issue currently is that it will freeze and crash (more specifically the screen will freeze and fade into white lines..) whenever I try to use ClockWorkMod Recovery.. I dunno if the crappy 1500 mAh China battery I got ripped off with is an issue but I'm waiting on an OEM one in the mail..
Post in general not development bub...
And were on cm 10. Why fall back?
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I intend to turn it into development thread. But will have a better audience over General?
And maybe see it more like an educational project with a usuable product?
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hey bud im with you ... though I think CM9 would be better as ICS has been released, stable, and has a few more tweaks and features that CM7 didn't ... things like in JB where we have a transparent notification pull down, control over the dpi of certain apps etc.
First thing you should do is readup on the compile cm10 from source thread, get your feet wet there it'll get you all setup with a development system .. Linux is a must so I hope that you're savvy in the *nix shell or things will be antagonistic right off the start ...
I installed the CM9 recently and radio etc didn't work .. Guaranteed there is tonnes of information across all devices on xda-developers and even in general development threads.
Scroll through these forums, find the github links and learn how to setup your own, download the sources for the kernels from the other devs (theres a couple CM10.1s out there).
CM7 .. while I appreciate where you're coming from as i LOVED having CM7 on my Galaxy ACE - everything just worked... battery was great, it looked cool, and it was just off the stock enough to be unique and rub in iPhone users' faces
If I had the time I'd take it on with you .. chart your work and links that have helped you as you go along.
maybe he say that, because the glide have GB and ics officialy and not JB, so, if i understand what he say, maybe a romCM based y that version can be more stable, and less bugs, i was thinking about a CM9 too. But, if i remember correctly, it must create a device tree and a lot of thing, but i am not sure becausea never do a rom.
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maybe he say that, because the glide have GB and ics officialy and not JB, so, if i understand what he say, maybe a romCM based y that version can be more stable, and less bugs, i was thinking about a CM9 too. But, if i remember correctly, it must create a device tree and a lot of thing, but i am not sure becausea never do a rom.
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CM9 is based on ICS 4.0.4 ...
Check this link, not for our device but it offers some good insight to CM7 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273718
Another one for CM9 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20844007
.... maybe I should just build a linux VM and give it a go in my spare time .... we're so starved for developers for our glides even amateur contributions can't hurt .... in the 2nd link the guy said it took him 11 months to learn how to mod for ICS from no experience so ..... depends on how much you want to commit to it ..
yohan4ws said:
CM9 is based on ICS 4.0.4 ...
Check this link, not for our device but it offers some good insight : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273718
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yes, i know that, and i was thinking that a cm9 (because there is a ics fully working in the glide) can be a good option, but not sure
This doesn't belong here, please, some mod, move this to General. Thanks
chrisyjwai said:
I intend to turn it into development thread. But will have a better audience over General?
And maybe see it more like an educational project with a usuable product?
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Flagged to be moved to general. If this turns into a dev thread, then you can flag to move it to the dev section, but you only post in the dev sections if you actually have a product or are actively working on something.
Your intentions seem great, but never wait for someone else to help you, otherwise it will never get done. No one is going to carry you through learning this.
There's a ton of guides out there on how to build, port, cherry pick CM commits, etc. etc. Go find them and start learning. Ask SPECIFIC questions if you have any.
No one shows up to college on day 1 and says I'd like to learn how to be a doctor, engineer, pharmacist, journalist, etc. There's a lot of steps in between. So go and get started.
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No one shows up to college on day 1 and says I'd like to learn how to be a doctor, engineer, pharmacist, journalist, etc.
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That doesn't make any sense.... lots of people show up to college and say that, and then enroll in the courses to do that ..
I've been around since cyanogenmod was just another rom along with bugless beast and whatever the hell was running things on eclair/mytouch and ive compiled kernels hundreds of times back when slackware linux 3.5 was out so i feel like im somewhat of a vet and i appreciate the fact that i have a nice little linux device permanently connected to a broadband connection with so much support in a neat little package.
=)!
and yet i never say anything on XDA i just appreciate... unfortunately i cant post in the development forum because i dont say much ;/
big thumbs up to cyanogenmod for taking their work so seriously and being so persistent, you guys must really love what you do, trust me i know the feeling =]
i just got this phone last week and before i did anything i rooted and installed the latest CM with whatever kernel appealed to me in the dev forum and i thought seriously my screen was defective i had no idea it was just a rom/kernel issue so im glad that over with.
i updated to cm22, and the flicker started again when using the 4/20 KT kernel so ill just stick with cm20 +kt420 for now what an unbelievable combo!
and i'm kinda disappointed in AOKP every time i check the AOKP/task thread somebody is always complaining about something that doesn't work... AOKP used to be my favorite. (when the ICS days began atleast.. i loved it on my gnex)
and by the way... to people having problems flashing between kernels, when you flash a kernel, wipe cache/dalvik, then flash the rom again, then gapps, then the new kernel. kernels include more things than just addition lines of code nowadays and thats the simplest way to work around most issues i see people posting about.
that is all!
Somebody is always complaining about things not working? I see every post in my thread and I don't see what you are talking about. 99.9% of the people that post state how well everything works. The people that complain are the ones that don't follow the simple installation instructions. You might need to read through the thread again. Or just try it out for yourself.
task650 said:
Somebody is always complaining about things not working? I see every post in my thread and I don't see what you are talking about. 99.9% of the people that post state how well everything works. The people that complain are the ones that don't follow the simple installation instructions. You might need to read through the thread again. Or just try it out for yourself.
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+1, agreed.
Just like the guy who wants to request a theme for a rom, that morphology has for that same rom.
READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Coming from the skyrocket which had a pretty good community I am really pleased with what developers do in their spare time and decide to share when it comes to this device.
There are so many options it can keep a flash junkie busy for a while.
Keep up the great work devs!
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I love these threads....I have an idea: If you are disappointed why don't you step up and create a solution or make your own ROM? Its easy to complain about FREE work when you don't contribute whatsoever.
True, don't complain about something people spend all their time on and give away for free ...
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We have a large dev community compared to many devices out there. I actually came from a galaxy nexus because I got bored of only aosp roms that were all pretty much the same.
(sorry, had to do it )
Tasks AOKP is by far the best ROM out there for the AT&T S3. I have run it longer than any other ROM i've tried and have had absolutely zero problems with it. I will never use anything else for this phone. Just my personal experience of course.
Whoaa guys ease up on the bashing... OP had only one sentence in his post that was negative everything else was positive.
I think everyone appreciates the hard work and time that devs put into all the different roms/kernels available out there.
Up until the late, I can agree that the 3.4 kernel builds (for any ROM including Tasks) weren't all that great which is why I was using CarbonROM with the BMS kernel (3.0).
But I updated to Tasks 4/23 and everything has been great...super super smooth.
Tasks updated kernel has been smooth. I'm running his newest now, flashes it a few hours ago and love it. The devs for the S3 are wonderful. So many more options than other android phones I've had in the past.
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If I'm reading right, OP is disappointed in AOKP and Task's AOKP.... and hasn't tried them yet?
It takes me longer to download a ROM than it does to flash it, restore data and check out all the main features for functionallity..... and you're calling them out by name without trying them?
Gutsy move.
Nothing wrong with AOKP and we have a fantastic aosp community. They seem to be more active then the original development. If anything I'm disappointed with the lack of touchwiz ROMs. All and all. We have a good community and a good group of developers here. /end thread.
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This thread sucks, I want the last 5 minutes back
3rd party ROMs are always works in progress. its not like anyone here is hiding the fact that these are all "in development". not all ROMs are "for" everyone, but that's the beauty of it, there's a flavor for everyone.
I personally prefer ROMs that are subtle improvements to the stock experience which give me a more enhanced version of what Samsung intended. BUT, there are times I'll think about getting a nexus 4, so I'll run a aosp/cm/aokp based ROM while scratching that itch. or those days I wished I had a note 2, we've got options with multi window and page buddy fully working.
if you don't like it, don't use it... simple as that. I've never critisized a ROM or developer if I don't "get" their work, that just means its not a good fit for me and I move on.
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This thread sucks, I want the last 5 minutes back
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Here you go, enjoy!
Task and his minions bashing another nice guy stating his appreciation...... Big surprise.
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Task and his minions bashing another nice guy stating his appreciation...... Big surprise.
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Huh?
1.) Looks as though you forgot something as simple as reading. Read my post again. If you consider any of that one post as bashing then I think you might need to check the emotional state you are in at the time that you read it.
2.) You're definitely not reading the OP. He pretty much stated that he hasn't even tried the ROM before judging it. That right there speaks for itself.
3.) Please do yourself a favor and grow up a little. Stirring up the pot with the highschool antics doesnt accomplish anything.
4.) Gold stars for you dude. Keep on contributing this wasteful drama here in a development site. That makes a ton of sense.