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Hi,
I basically want to know if there is any difference between these devices, other than network provider lock.
Can you use the ROMs interchangeably?
I think the tmo model does support att's bands and u can probably interchange roms as well like on the tmo s2 and the skyrocket
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minhajmsd said:
I think the tmo model does support att's bands and u can probably interchange roms as well like on the tmo s2 and the skyrocket
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We don't know for sure yet that the ROMs will be interchangeable. However, given that most T-Mobile phones support the 850/1900 NAM bands (GSM) needed for AT&T HSPA+, as long as the phone is unlocked it should work fine.
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In thinking of doing this. Does anyone know if it works with the Medianet data plan?
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In thinking of doing this. Does anyone know if it works with the Medianet data plan?
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The Galaxy S2 did. Reading the specs page on the Tmobile website, I've come to the conclusion that the bands are identical to the AT&T variant's. I'm going to be doing the same thing.
Will hspa+ work? If so, tmo users who will be paying full price would be better off
Buying from att because its less than tmos full price cost.
Plus wireless tethering would work Because tmo doesn't have imei # of att phone.
Can anyone confim?
i would like to know this as well, paying 549 if a lot better than 639.
QUOTE=predation;27809975]Will hspa+ work? If so, tmo users who will be paying full price would be better off
Buying from att because its less than tmos full price cost.
Plus wireless tethering would work Because tmo doesn't have imei # of att phone.
Can anyone confim?[/QUOTE]
FYI only T-MO has HSPA +42 version of the S3 for those looking to buy from At&t.
anyone can confirm this?? does the gs3 from tmo works on att HSPA+ and vice versa and if the tmo gs3 works internationally on 3g networks.
All right,unlocked my T999 galaxy s3, put my AT&T micro sim in phone but I get no data. I can make phone calls no problem.Do I have to do anything with the APN settings?
Thank you!!
You need to make an AT&T APN. Also the AT&T version will not get 3G on T-Mobile without at the very least a modem flash.
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O.K. just added a couple ATT apn settings still no data.any other suggestions?
By the way i have a 4g micro sim.Thought Tmobile S3 had ATT hspa+ bands.
Got apn settings from these forums.
Might want to do a lot of research before trying to flash an att ROM on tmo or vice versa. I heard the tmo phones are quad core.
mrhaley30705 said:
Might want to do a lot of research before trying to flash an att ROM on tmo or vice versa. I heard the tmo phones are quad core.
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They aren't. All US ones are dual core.
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fender22 said:
O.K. just added a couple ATT apn settings still no data.any other suggestions?
By the way i have a 4g micro sim.Thought Tmobile S3 had ATT hspa+ bands.
Got apn settings from these forums.
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did you flash an AT&T radio? you will probably need to do that.
how did you unlock your phone? did you just buy a code or did you try one of the XDA methods?
dLo GSR said:
did you flash an AT&T radio? you will probably need to do that.
how did you unlock your phone? did you just buy a code or did you try one of the XDA methods?
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Forgot about that. You need an AT&T baseband.
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joshnichols189 said:
They aren't. All US ones are dual core.
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So they are. Thanks for providing quick verification on something i heard. :thumbup:
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They aren't. All US ones are dual core.
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Aaaaah!!
Why when something comes to US it has to be downgraded?
barribow said:
Aaaaah!!
Why when something comes to US it has to be downgraded?
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It isn't a down grade. Do some reading.
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It isn't a down grade. Do some reading.
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link?
As mentioned in title there is a new feature out that can be read about here > HD Voice News
I'm wondering if anyone knows whether it works for Note II as well. They only list 3 phones on the story, however it doesn't explicitly exclude other phones. Just curious.
I was wondering that myself, my coworker had me call his friend that was on a Nexus 4 and the call seemed to be very clear, but I couldn't tell whether it was "HD Voice" or not since there is no indication of it on either of our phones.
We have the required chip, but I don't think the required settings in the firmware are active.
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We have the required chip, but I don't think the required settings in the firmware are active.
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+1
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Did some research found this quote "The new SKU will apparently launch before the network goes live with the LTE radios disabled, but once the towers are up and delivering the juice T-Mobile will issue a software upgrade to enable them. Those who bought the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 may not need a new phone, though, as that phone did come with the dormant LTE radios during its first run. We imagine T-Mobile will issue a similar software upgrade for it":laugh:
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Did some research found this quote "The new SKU will apparently launch before the network goes live with the LTE radios disabled, but once the towers are up and delivering the juice T-Mobile will issue a software upgrade to enable them. Those who bought the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 may not need a new phone, though, as that phone did come with the dormant LTE radios during its first run. We imagine T-Mobile will issue a similar software upgrade for it":laugh:
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Ok, but that is talking about lte radio, not the hd voice chip.
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I work for t-mo
HD Voice only works, at least for now, on the:
- HTC one S,
-Nokia Lumia 810,
-GS3
GN2 is yet to be confirmed but what we do know is that it only works between T-MO phones and it HAS to be amongst these 3. ****FOR NOW AT LEAST****
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HD Voice only works, at least for now, on the:
- HTC one S,
-Nokia Lumia 810,
-GS3
GN2 is yet to be confirmed but what we do know is that it only works between T-MO phones and it HAS to be amongst these 3. ****FOR NOW AT LEAST****
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If the GS3 can do it then we can do it. It just needs a patch for the firmware to use it. Which will probably come out when we have our LTE radios turned on.
What does it have to do with LTE getting switched on. Current GS3 doesnt even have an LTE radio.
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slybarman said:
What does it have to do with LTE getting switched on. Current GS3 doesnt even have an LTE radio.
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Read the press release again. Current GS3 owners got jipped. T-Mobile is re-releasing the GS3 with an LTE radio.
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What does it have to do with LTE getting switched on. Current GS3 doesnt even have an LTE radio.
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It doesn't directly but when they patch our phone to turn on LTE they will probably enable hd voice also. Radio has nothing to do with HD voice. HD voice is dependent on the sound codec on our phone, but it makes sense to do it when you are already patching the system.
I expect the exynos security patch and maybe even 4.2 before LTE.
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What does it have to do with LTE getting switched on. Current GS3 doesnt even have an LTE radio.
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I expect the exynos security patch and maybe even 4.2 before LTE.
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Well I expect LTE very soon. What would be the point of turning on LTE in Vegas if you have no phones that support it. They plan to do it in the next couple of weeks.
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Well I expect LTE very soon. What would be the point of turning on LTE in Vegas if you have no phones that support it. They plan to do it in the next couple of weeks.
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. . . to be able to say you have an LTE network of course!
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. . . to be able to say you have an LTE network of course!
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Well I can be the optimist and you can be the pessimist. I don't see the point of rolling out two or three software updates in a one year when they can address it all in one big update. The international note 2 doesn't even have 4.2 yet. I bet we see 412 with HD Voice and LTE radio enabled first.
Yup - we'll see. Btw, battery life might take a hit if the LTE radio is switched on. We might not want it on too soon.
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Yup - we'll see. Btw, battery life might take a hit if the LTE radio is switched on. We might not want it on too soon.
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My friend has an AT&T Note 2 in an LTE market and he still gets about 16 hours of regular use. I get about 16 - 18 with regular use so we will see. LTE radios have gotten better at using batteries. I remember that the first killed batteries like they were going out of style.
The other piece I wondering about is what happens when the LTE radio is activated in a non-LTE market. Does it go searching for signal in some way like the regular cell radio in a poor signal area. That is murder on the battery.
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The other piece I wondering about is what happens when the LTE radio is activated in a non-LTE market. Does it go searching for signal in some way like the regular cell radio in a poor signal area. That is murder on the battery.
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Good question. I am sure they will put a toggle to turn it on and off. How does the Note2 LTE and GS3 LTE handle it, I wonder.
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Then clear cache and factory reset.
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Sounds like an awesome answer in search of a question.
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I've been waiting for T-Mobile to announce the availability of a 32GB variant of the S4 but everyone I've asked at T-Mobile has no clue or ETA for the device.
Has anyone heard anything about the availability of the 32GB device?
Does anyone know of an alternate S4 device that has 32GB of storage and will support all of the bands that the SGH-M919?
I have to use my device as a business device so I don't plan to root it as my company's MDM and monitoring agents freak out and I get beaten up by the IT police so I'm not worried about being able to load custom ROMs onto the device.
I have a 64GB UHS-1 MicroSD so it's not SD Card storage I'm looking for but actually more storage to use on in the phone's actual memory.
Any thoughts?
Why not just get a memory card?
I have a 64gb microsd card but I want the option of having more than 8gb free that the 16gb phone comes with.
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Kid Poker said:
Why not just get a memory card?
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+1 on getting a 64 g card. Has the benefit of you can play with it, now
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Android_Monsters said:
+1 on getting a 64 g card. Has the benefit of you can play with it, now
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Yeah it's cool to be able to play with it now and as I mentioned I have a 64 MicroSD UHS-1 card but I'm more concerned of having the memory on the phone available for app data or some apps I use for work that I dont have the ability to offload content to the MicroSD for.
So with all that being said does anyone have any idea for the original question I asked about an variant device?
You can buy the AT&T 32gb version, enable AWS and flash t-mobile rom. The phones are the same with aws disabled by software
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mxmarcus said:
You can buy the AT&T 32gb version, enable AWS and flash t-mobile rom. The phones are the same with aws disabled by software
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Thank you for that info mxmarcus - I didn't know they were identical... do you know if I will have to unlock and root the AT&T version to put the T-Mo ROM on the phone?
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Thank you for that info mxmarcus - I didn't know they were identical... do you know if I will have to unlock and root the AT&T version to put the T-Mo ROM on the phone?
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Here is the link to enable AWS on AT&T variant
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291589
Root and unlock should be easy.
I just order mine and I am planning to flash T-Mobile rom after enabling AWS
dont think that the ATT version has all the LTE bands that the tmob one has.
and about the 32gb version its an IF not a WHEN
TristianX said:
I've been waiting for T-Mobile to announce the availability of a 32GB variant of the S4 but everyone I've asked at T-Mobile has no clue or ETA for the device.
Has anyone heard anything about the availability of the 32GB device?
Does anyone know of an alternate S4 device that has 32GB of storage and will support all of the bands that the SGH-M919?
I have to use my device as a business device so I don't plan to root it as my company's MDM and monitoring agents freak out and I get beaten up by the IT police so I'm not worried about being able to load custom ROMs onto the device.
I have a 64GB UHS-1 MicroSD so it's not SD Card storage I'm looking for but actually more storage to use on in the phone's actual memory.
Any thoughts?
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yes, I have a ATT 32gb sim unlocked (via code from ATT) and AWS bands enabled, look at the thread in the ATT i337 forum on how to do it. to enable AWS you need to flash a new QCN file to the phone.
you can also now fully flash tmobile rom to an ATT S4 look on Galaxys4root.com for that video and also the aws enable video.
Everywhere I have read att has exclusive to the 32gb.
And no they're are not exactly the same, the att has less bands of lte support.
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SlimJ87D said:
Everywhere I have read att has exclusive to the 32gb.
And no they're are not exactly the same, the att has less bands of lte support.
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Are you certain? I thought they both have the same specs, modems, and everything. (other than the locked boot loader).
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by the way, I see LTE band 2 and band 5 in the configs and they do enable. (can't really test).
I'm pretty sure U.S. GS4 are all the same, capable of using each their own bands of lte. *Obviously I'm excluding gsm vs cdma* we all know that difference.
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Are you certain? I thought they both have the same specs, modems, and everything. (other than the locked boot loader).
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by the way, I see LTE band 2 and band 5 in the configs and they do enable. (can't really test).
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Yes.
T-Mobile's SGS4 has more bands. ATT's has less bands.
You can use the T-Mobile SGS4 on either carrier no problem. You can't witht he ATT one.
Just google them, you can compare the specs on Samsung's official websites, they list the bands.
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Yes.
T-Mobile's SGS4 has more bands. ATT's has less bands.
You can use the T-Mobile SGS4 on either carrier no problem. You can't witht he ATT one.
Just google them, you can compare the specs on Samsung's official websites, they list the bands.
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You can also google or search XDA on how to unlock AWS on AT&T S4 to use on TMO.
but you can't just walk into an AT&T store and buy one, right?
ebay or some other site.
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but you can't just walk into an AT&T store and buy one, right?
ebay or some other site.
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Sure you can just tell them your buying it outright.
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Sure you can just tell them your buying it outright.
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No you can't unless something has changed. They will not sell you a device, even at "full retail" if you don't have a plan with them.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/11/off-contract-nokia-lumia-920-retail/
I did i pay $760 without getting any plan they just give me a new dim to activate on gophone 65 plan
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If you wait there's a thread in here about an update that let's you put app on the sdcard and Samsung was able to squeeze a Lil more space into the device but it said it's only available to Germany right now
Hi everyone,
I have a SCH-R530C with 4.1.2. I want to unlock it to BRING it to T-Mobile. The phone was originally on Cricket. When I use the "*#197328640# etc, etc..." method.. it does not bring up any options under networks. Is there any solution to this?
Thank you!
Downgrade your baseband.
Samsung patched this in 4.1.2
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Hi everyone,
I have a SCH-R530C with 4.1.2. I want to unlock it to BRING it to T-Mobile. The phone was originally on Cricket. When I use the "*#197328640# etc, etc..." method.. it does not bring up any options under networks. Is there any solution to this?
Thank you!
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DocHoliday77 said:
Downgrade your baseband.
Samsung patched this in 4.1.2
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And this goes without saying usually but use a baseband for SCH-530C, NOT a T-Mobile baseband or you might brick.
Ya that makes sense. With the downgrade does it allow me do the method mentioned above. Also, I don't mean to ask for too much.. But can someone point me in the right direction to find it? This model seems rare.
I'm pretty sure you should be in the Verizon forum, or maybe Sprints.
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It would be Verizon. The model number is exactly the same between the two just Cricket has a C - hard to believe they didn't launch with a 4.1.1 ROM though... Let me do a quick search.
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I did the research and MetroPCS uses the same version as cricket. You might try these Odin images from cricket users or post there to see if someone has the original ICS radio or if they know another workaround.
http://www.cricketusers.com/root-re...lashable-cricket-sgs3-touchwiz-firmwares.html
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It would be Verizon. The model number is exactly the same between the two just Cricket has a C - hard to believe they didn't launch with a 4.1.1 ROM though... Let me do a quick search.
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I did the research and MetroPCS uses the same version as cricket. You might try these Odin images from cricket users or post there to see if someone has the original ICS radio or if they know another workaround.
http://www.cricketusers.com/root-re...lashable-cricket-sgs3-touchwiz-firmwares.html
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That's why I mentioned Verizon first. But it seems it may not be so simple any more.
The recently released Straight Talk SCH-S960 belongs in the Sprint forums. I spent a couple of days helping a couple of people find and verify this.
So it probably does belong in the Verizon area, but w/o looking I can't say for sure.
It seems these latest models are all now shipping with 4.1.2. (T999L, SCH-S960, SCH-R530....)
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Oh and the JB 4.1.1 radio should also work. I don't think you need to downgrade all the way to ics.
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That's why I mentioned Verizon first. But it seems it may not be so simple any more.
The recently released Straight Talk SCH-S960 belongs in the Sprint forums. I spent a couple of days helping a couple of people find and verify this.
So it probably does belong in the Verizon area, but w/o looking I can't say for sure.
It seems these latest models are all now shipping with 4.1.2. (T999L, SCH-S960, SCH-R530....)
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Oh and the JB 4.1.1 radio should also work. I don't think you need to downgrade all the way to ics.
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It makes sense that the St version is Sprint - all of their Android phones are Sprint. They don't want to pay what At&t and Verizon want for smartphones. Sprint gives em cheap at wholesale.
The R530 seems to be the same for Verizon, MetroPCS, and Us Cellular. From research, the JB update was a 4.1.2 radio - also some are saying that the ICS radio might not even work with that workaround. The MetroPCS version appears to be the exact same as the Cricket version so it should be safe to flash. Emphasis on should.
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It makes sense that the St version is Sprint - all of their Android phones are Sprint. They don't want to pay what At&t and Verizon want for smartphones. Sprint gives em cheap at wholesale.
The R530 seems to be the same for Verizon, MetroPCS, and Us Cellular. From research, the JB update was a 4.1.2 radio - also some are saying that the ICS radio might not even work with that workaround. The MetroPCS version appears to be the exact same as the Cricket version so it should be safe to flash. Emphasis on should.
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Right, and that's where the confusion came from. ST was expected to be with Sprint forums, but the SCH, made people think it was Verizon (and a few thought T-Mobile since ST uses their towers in some places apparently). I was just trying to point out that we can't always go by the prefix in the model number anymore. Why they did this.....I wish I knew!
So when they were updated to JB are you saying it skipped 4.1.1? Sorry if I'm getting myself confused or misunderstanding you.
And I'd have to look, but I thought the unlock worked for ics too. But I could be wrong.
Also POSSIBLE, but not recommended, is flashing another models radio. Most of the S3's have the same partition layout. I know several that have flashed other radios w/o bricking. It didn't work, but it didn't hurt anything either. Could it be possible to do this just to unlock, then go back to stock radio?
For example, AT&T users and T-Mobile users have tried each other's radios. All T999 variants can safely flash each other's radios too. They may not work at all, or only partially, but they were able to simply reflash their correct ones. This makes me think that as a last resort it could be attempted. I do not and will not recommend it since I know next to nothing about the 530, but figured I'd throw it out there in case anyone wants to look into it.
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Im confuse isnt it that a CDMA model? Would it actually work with tmobile? Using the global phone hack might help but im not sure.
Also Cricket seems to have similar devices as metropcs. Same hardware too?
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Im confuse isnt it that a CDMA model? Would it actually work with tmobile? Using the global phone hack might help but im not sure.
Also Cricket seems to have similar devices as metropcs. Same hardware too?
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Its the exact same hardware between the two from looking online. And yes its a CDMA phone but to my surprise it has GSM support up to and including HSPA on AWS and LTE!
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Its the exact same hardware between the two from looking online. And yes its a CDMA phone but to my surprise it has GSM support up to and including HSPA on AWS and LTE!
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No kidding?!?
So this is like the mother of all gs3's with the ability to function on just about any network?
Now why couldn't they have just done that in the first place?! (No, you don't need to actually answer that!)
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No kidding?!?
So this is like the mother of all gs3's with the ability to function on just about any network?
Now why couldn't they have just done that in the first place?! (No, you don't need to actually answer that!)
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The Us Cellular version actually supports more bands than the Cricket version...
Cricket: Frequencies and Data Type: LTE Dual-band: Band 2 (1900MHz), Band 4 (AWS); CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev A, Tri-band: 800/AWS/1900MHz*
Us Cellular: Frequencies and Data Type: LTE Quad-band : Band 2 (1900MHz), Band 4 (AWS), Band 5 (850MHz), Band 12 (700MHz) CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev A, Tri-band : 800/AWS/1900MHz*
We got ripped for sure.
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I wish one day they will just sale you one hardware with all carriers bands enable and none carrier branded. LTE phones now days uses a sim card to get data and works with calls too. Make it like international here in the us. Buy a phone and your free to use it on any carrier lmao. One hardware for all. No more difference between the international and us. Now newer devices are like that. Like the htc one and the s4 but we still need carrier approval for updates. Also I dont see why carriers have to put bloatware on phones when you can get them on the play store.
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I wish one day they will just sale you one hardware with all carriers bands enable and none carrier branded. LTE phones now days uses a sim card to get data and works with calls too. Make it like international here in the us. Buy a phone and your free to use it on any carrier lmao. One hardware for all. No more difference between the international and us. Now newer devices are like that. Like the htc one and the s4 but we still need carrier approval for updates. Also I dont see why carriers have to put bloatware on phones when you can get them on the play store.
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The biggest issue is all the different frequencies in use... And its going to get worse with the 600 spectrum sale. There are an insane amount of bands and technologies in use.
And then there are companies like Verizon that are anti-consumer... That's not going anywhere.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the S4 was the same as the S3 regarding international vs US. I heard its more compatible between US versions, but not with international since it once again gets the best processor (Exynos octo core) while we get the Qualcomm quad core one. This time we don't even get more memory. Still 2GB.
The international also uses a different graphics processor. Not sure if it's better, but it is different.
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Just saw this and thought I'd share. A newer S4.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE95G05I20130617?irpc=932
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the S4 was the same as the S3 regarding international vs US. I heard its more compatible between US versions, but not with international since it once again gets the best processor (Exynos octo core) while we get the Qualcomm quad core one. This time we don't even get more memory. Still 2GB.
The international also uses a different graphics processor. Not sure if it's better, but it is different.
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Just saw this and thought I'd share. A newer S4.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE95G05I20130617?irpc=932
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The US and most of the world are all on Qualcomm chips in the S4. Korea got the Exynos as did most of Africa and Asia in general while the US, Canada, and Europe all got Qualcomm.
That new S4 would be perfect for T-Mobile once they have lit up full LTE since they're deploying LTE-Advanced out the gate.
EtherealRemnant said:
The US and most of the world are all on Qualcomm chips in the S4. Korea got the Exynos as did most of Africa and Asia in general while the US, Canada, and Europe all got Qualcomm.
That new S4 would be perfect for T-Mobile once they have lit up full LTE since they're deploying LTE-Advanced out the gate.
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ok, I wasn't sure about that, thanks for clarifying it. It's no wonder sales aren't meeting expectations. It's basically the international S3 with US memory! (I know there's more to it, but when you really simplify it....)
I was thinking the same on the new S4. Don't see any indication one way or another if T-Mobile will actually get it though. And oh how I hope we do!
I can potentially see many unhappy original S4 buyers soon! (Look how upset some are over the T999L!)
I'll leave it there on my end, seeing as we are now just a little bit off topic!
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EtherealRemnant said:
The US and most of the world are all on Qualcomm chips in the S4. Korea got the Exynos as did most of Africa and Asia in general while the US, Canada, and Europe all got Qualcomm.
That new S4 would be perfect for T-Mobile once they have lit up full LTE since they're deploying LTE-Advanced out the gate.
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Yeah like I said before.. The US GS4 being able to flash roms from the International is a huge + for me.
How about that iPhone? I always heard that it supports all global bands? If Samsung didnt had several different hardware between the phones like for international and us. It would be easier for them to push updates. And be cheaper for them too.. Not having to work on several hardware difference for an update. Maybe they got that idea and started to make the phones with same hardware like the S4.. I was waiting for fathers day to see if tmobile would have an offer for the s4 and they didnt
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Yeah like I said before.. The US GS4 being able to flash roms from the International is a huge + for me.
How about that iPhone? I always heard that it supports all global bands? If Samsung didnt had several different hardware between the phones like for international and us. It would be easier for them to push updates. And be cheaper for them too.. Not having to work on several hardware difference for an update. Maybe they got that idea and started to make the phones with same hardware like the S4.. I was waiting for fathers day to see if tmobile would have an offer for the s4 and they didnt
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T-Mobile's "offer" for the iPhone 5 wasn't even really an offer anyway - its all based on their trade in program now. But they did slash 50 bucks off the S4 until 7/30 when it goes back to 149 down and 20 a month.
As for the iPhone being global, didn't they have some super custom crazy modem made for that though?
in terms of rooting which version should I purchase? I heard that the USA version has a locked bootloader which means it is not rootable correct? Is it impossible to unlock the bootloader unless Samsung does something or..? I would assume that since people are going so far as to refund their phones instead of waiting for an unlocker to be released if that is even possible.
I'm waiting to buy international version of phone with Xynos Chip and no AT&T bloatware. We will probably get better battery life and faster updates. We will lose HD and Wifi calling but no biggie IMHO.
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martinezma99 said:
I'm waiting to buy international version of phone with Xynos Chip and no AT&T bloatware. We will probably get better battery life and faster updates. We will lose HD and Wifi calling but no biggie IMHO.
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what do you mean we will lose HD?
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what do you mean we will lose HD?
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I think he means Voice over LTE (VoLTE)
also i dont mind waiting for the USA version to have an unlocked bootloader but the question i have is will it be possible? if not i might as well get the international version
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also i dont mind waiting for the USA version to have an unlocked bootloader but the question i have is will it be possible? if not i might as well get the international version
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Chance's of the USA version being Unlocked are slim to none... Even the Canadian version is locked down.
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Chance's of the USA version being Unlocked are slim to none... Even the Canadian version is locked down.
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i'm new to this whole thing so there might be things i dont understand but aren't there a lot of other phones that have locked bootloaders but was still able to be unlocked?
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I think he means Voice over LTE (VoLTE)
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Yes, HD Voice is Voice over LTE.
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martinezma99 said:
Yes, HD Voice is Voice over LTE.
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Having done development work in this field, I feel obligated to tell you that's not exactly true. Hd voice consists of two voice codecs - AMR Wideband, and AMR narrowband. These codecs do not explicitly require VoLTE to function. In fact, you can make "HD Voice" calls over 4G HSPA/HSPA+ using the narrowband version of the codec.
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Sounds good to me. Here's AT&T definition of HD voice.
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/wireless/KM1046244
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martinezma99 said:
Sounds good to me. Here's AT&T definition of HD voice.
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/wireless/KM1046244
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Yeah everyone dumbs down their definitions for the general public.
Basically, telephony in general has always had an 8khz spectrum width for audio. This was manly due to the fact it's small and low bandwidth. With the advent of 3.5g (hspa/hspa+ and lte) bandwidth is drastically increased. This allows for a doubled (16khz) spectrum width as there's plenty of bandwidth for it.
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martinezma99 said:
Yes, HD Voice is Voice over LTE.
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For AT&T and Verizon, correct. T-Mobile uses HD Voice over their 3G network, and you get better sounding calls when talking to another T-Mobile subscriber (I understand they will eventually bridge HD Voice to other carriers). VoLTE for T-Mobile (Advanced Calling for VZW) allows you to keep your LTE signal while on a call, as opposed to dropping down to 3G.
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also i dont mind waiting for the USA version to have an unlocked bootloader but the question i have is will it be possible? if not i might as well get the international version
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Good question. I heard a rumor that they did some sort of update and locked it?
I have the international variant and it does have VoLTE.
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BozQ said:
I have the international variant and it does have VoLTE.
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What carrier?
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What carrier?
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Singapore here. Singtel.
Would love to get international variant if it works with Tmobile.
I can purchase an international version on eBay, there is one currently for 789$ but there is only gold platinum available and the seller ships from NY.... i want to get this but unsure if it is a fake phone or something ><
The Phone may be region locked. Mine (South East Asia) came with a card that says, the Phone needs to be using SEA sim card for the first boot up.
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I can purchase an international version on eBay, there is one currently for 789$ but there is only gold platinum available and the seller ships from NY.... i want to get this but unsure if it is a fake phone or something ><
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I'm in the same boat, $789 seems lucrative, but no warranty so not sure should take that risk or not. I'm waiting for B&H to go on sale at least they provide their own 1 year warranty.