Contacts, different between gmail and gmail exchange? Help - T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII

I'm only using Gmail accounts.
I have 3 setup using Gmail exchange protocol. (active exchange sync I think it's called)
And "regular" gmail using play store, gmail app, sync.
Several of my contacts have different numbers from Google and exchange. Yes they are syncing from the same account using 2 different methods and showing different phone numbers???
And I can't seem to edit the exchange information either.
What am I doing wrong? I setup the gmail exchange to get instant push notifications for email, and I have my gs3 set to sync contacts, Calendar, etc.. Everything from my personal account. But obviously something is wrong if while viewing "Bobs" contact info I show 2 different numbers for Google tab and exchange tab. And I can only edit the info under the Google tab.
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Araltd said:
I'm only using Gmail accounts.
I have 3 setup using Gmail exchange protocol. (active exchange sync I think it's called)
And "regular" gmail using play store, gmail app, sync.
Several of my contacts have different numbers from Google and exchange. Yes they are syncing from the same account using 2 different methods and showing different phone numbers???
And I can't seem to edit the exchange information either.
What am I doing wrong? I setup the gmail exchange to get instant push notifications for email, and I have my gs3 set to sync contacts, Calendar, etc.. Everything from my personal account. But obviously something is wrong if while viewing "Bobs" contact info I show 2 different numbers for Google tab and exchange tab. And I can only edit the info under the Google tab.
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GMail and Exchange ActiveSync are completely different entities and applications altogether. GMail is a Google product and Exchange and ActiveSync are Microsoft products.
Exchange ActiveSync only works if your mailbox is on a Microsoft Exchange server. GMail has nothing to do with Exchange or ActiveSync.

ftanner said:
GMail and Exchange ActiveSync are completely different entities and applications altogether. GMail is a Google product and Exchange and ActiveSync are Microsoft products.
Exchange ActiveSync only works if your mailbox is on a Microsoft Exchange server. GMail has nothing to do with Exchange or ActiveSync.
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This, that option is likely for institutions that have google apps running on their M$ servers...

This was posted on BetaNews today:
Almost a week ago, part of Google's "Winter cleaning" involved dropping support for Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync on January 30, 2013. It appears Microsoft is far from happy with the controversial decision, and the company promptly retaliated by advising Gmail users to switch to Outlook for "the best email experience" across all devices.
As was the case with removing the free version of Google Apps for Business, Google's recent move is subject to criticism. But why does it matter? Google dropped the ball in Microsoft's court, as the latter uses EAS in a number of software products including Windows Phone and Windows 8/RT. The protocol allows syncing of calendars and contacts and uses push email functionality. "Killing" it leaves Microsoft customers without those features when accessing Google services.
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http://betanews.com/2012/12/18/microsoft-surprised-after-google-dropped-exchange-activesync-support/

ftanner said:
GMail and Exchange ActiveSync are completely different entities and applications altogether. GMail is a Google product and Exchange and ActiveSync are Microsoft products.
Exchange ActiveSync only works if your mailbox is on a Microsoft Exchange server. GMail has nothing to do with Exchange or ActiveSync.
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Um, your Right and wrong, Google (gmail) does offer exchange connectivity with the gmail server and it works just like Microsoft Exchange.
Now what and how it works on Google's side I don't know. But I will say that EAS with Gmail is (or was) awesome, it was a fantastic method of having cloud backup for contacts. I know they (google) have discontinued it for new accts, but say it will continue for people already using it. I guess I'll see.
Thanks anyway for your input.
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Android multi Calendar confusion ...

I'm getting mighty confused by these multiple calendars that have appeared on my device and getting them to sync with my Google calendar.
Here's my set up. I have all contacts and calendars on my Google account before I started. I set up my Desire to sync with them using Google account.
All seemed fine but I found the Gmail app on Desire pretty limiting so I set up an Exchange activesync account linked to my gmail account for my mail (always worked well on my HD) and set it to sync calendar and contacts too. I then disabled all the syncing through the google account to avoid complications.
Unfortunately the exchange account doesn't seem to be configured for push and has no option to change this but that's not why I'm here.
Coming from WM, I'm used to having one calendar that is in sync between Outlook on PC, Google calendar and mobile device.
When I co to calendars on my Desire now I have no less than 4:
My Calendar
xxx @ gmail.com
Exchange
PC Sync
What's going on here? Which is which? So far HTC Sync connects but will not swap any contacts or calendar items with device and vice versa. Nor do appointments I add to the device show up on Google Calendar.
I suspect that this is because these different profiles seem to be associated with one platform - outlook / google / desire - or another.
Can anyone shed any light?
Many thanks, M1.
For anyone else trying to work this out there is a useful (bit old) thread here:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google Mobile/thread?tid=6d1605a796be89fd&hl=en
It seems you need to be careful which calendar you add entries too if you want them to sync with cloud mail - I unticked the box next to My Calendar so now entries I add on the Desire default to the google account calendar and sync as expected.
Now have to get to grips with the PC Sync calendar and work out why none of my events and contacts are syncing with out look. Sigh - it's just another learning curve i guess ...
Mark One said:
Unfortunately the exchange account doesn't seem to be configured for push and has no option to change this but that's not why I'm here.
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Push can be enabled under the Exchange ActiveSync Settings. It defaults to every 10 minutes, there's a Push Mail option.
Mark One said:
When I co to calendars on my Desire now I have no less than 4:
My Calendar
xxx @ gmail.com
Exchange
PC Sync
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Untick them all except Exchange and you'll just see Calendar entries updated by Exchange. I don't have an Exchange option incidentally, so just untick them all and it still shows.
xx @gmail.com is using the Google Sync interface but you said you dislike the Gmail App. PC Sync is for using HTC Sync via Outlook. This is really for non-Google Calendars/people locked into using Outlook. As you're using Google, you're better off updating direct from Google.
You can in theory use Exchange ActiveSync for E-Mail and Google for Calendar/Contacts or visa versa but obviously it makes more sense to use one method or the other. As Gmail supports Exchange ActiveSync, there is basically crossover between using Exchange ActiveSync (and the HTC Mail App) or Google Sync (and the Gmail App).
Mark One said:
Now have to get to grips with the PC Sync calendar and work out why none of my events and contacts are syncing with out look. Sigh - it's just another learning curve i guess ...
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I presume, so you have them in Outlook too? Don't bother.
I use GSyncit to update Outlook. This talks directly to Google and gets Contacts/Calendar. It's well worth the $10-15. For me it goes:
* Outlook to Google via GSyncit: Both ways
* Google to HTC Desire via Exchange ActiveSync (or Google Sync if I prefer): Again both ways

Outlook syncing to WP7 now available

Windows Phone 7 Sync Software
Sync contacts, calendar and tasks with Windows Phone 7
http://www.companionlink.com/windowsphone/
Sync your PC with Windows Phone 7 via any Google, Gmail, or Google Apps Premier account. CompanionLink installs on the PC and syncs calendar, contacts and tasks to your Google/Gmail account. Google then syncs with Windows Phone 7 devices using the Exchange ActiveSync protocol provided by their Google Sync service. Two-way sync is fully supported so changes made on the phone will sync back to the PC.
Currently, there is no support for notes/memos because Google does not support syncing the notes datatype. CompanionLink is evaluating alternative sync methods for Windows Phone 7.
Sync
Has anyone tried this? If it works...gotta have it!
So rather than sync directly with Windows Live and access in Outlook via the Hotmail Connecter for free you should sync your data to google for $40? Fantastic product, where do I sign up?
BTW how to you sync Tasks if they're absent on WP7?
doministry said:
BTW how to you sync Tasks if they're absent on WP7?
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Looks like it converts tasks on Outlook into non timed events on the calender. Note sure how priorities and due dates etc convert though
efjay said:
So rather than sync directly with Windows Live and access in Outlook via the Hotmail Connecter for free you should sync your data to google for $40? Fantastic product, where do I sign up?
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Lol. Well, I can see the point if you use Google Apps for business reasons, but CompanionLink has always been a waste of money.
And overpriced at that.
Sync....yes $40!
The Outlook connector to sync to Hotmail is EXTREEMLY limited. In my normal Contacts folder I have about 5000 contacts. The calendar for the next 90 day includes almost 400 events. The Hotmail calendar hold enough events but does not SYNC the correct folder! I want to sync...NOT IMPORT. I think hotmail contacts are limited to a few hunderd.
runandgun said:
The Outlook connector to sync to Hotmail is EXTREEMLY limited. In my normal Contacts folder I have about 5000 contacts. The calendar for the next 90 day includes almost 400 events. The Hotmail calendar hold enough events but does not SYNC the correct folder! I want to sync...NOT IMPORT. I think hotmail contacts are limited to a few hunderd.
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Outlook allows you to Layer Calendars. The fact that it's going to the the Hotmail Calendar means little to nothing.
People layer calendars on a daily basis. You don't put Holidays and Birthdates on your work calendar, do you?
Putting your contacts on Hotmail is as simple as dragging and dropping them to the Hotmail Calendar Folder.
Hotmail has gone through many changes and supports most of the Outlook Fields. 99% of people will have no issue with just dragging them over. I had over 200 Contacts and they all went to Windows Live with no issue. I had more issues porting over to Google than to Windows Live using Outlook due to field name differences and missing fields in Google Contacts (a notorious weak point in the Google Services).
It does Sync. Just to the Hotmail Folder, the same way Exchange Data goes to its own file.
This prevents data from becoming too disorganized, like when you have several POP3 accounts dropping mail into the same PST/Mailbox file.
If you had an Exchange account set up in Outlook, I find it hard to believe you'd want your Windows Live Calendar going into your Exchange Calendar, Windos Live Mail going into your Exchange Mailbox, and Windows Live Contacts being jumbled in with you Exchange contacts... I'm sure you want that mail you sent to your brother calling your boss a dickwad to get archived on their corporate servers, etc.
I think a large part of this is people have some unrealistic expectations of how things should work, and having no clue how organized people actually organize their data.
Windows Live Connector works similarly to Exchange on Outlook. The only difference is you need a connector for it (at least for Outlook 2003/2007), because the functionality is not built into the application. I expect the next version of Outlook to have the connector built in as core functionality. To get similar functionality for Google Accounts, you'd need to pay for Google Apps premier edition (and even then, their Contacts/Calendar Sync sucks hardcore). No other system has as good integration with Outlook as Exchange and Windows Live. You people keep complaining about something so trivial, when the alternatives fall flat on their faces. Seriously.
Also, the premier client software for Windows Live is Essentials.
I still don't like the whole idea of this 'cloud' thing for my Contacts and Calendar. I much prefer controlling the information that goes between my phone and my laptop ... I do NOT like the idea that it now has to go out to the 'cloud' somewhere with all my Contacts' information.
I just do not like it one bit! I want a direct link between phone and laptop ... even if I have to hardwire it to get the data updated.
kahibbi said:
I still don't like the whole idea of this 'cloud' thing for my Contacts and Calendar. I much prefer controlling the information that goes between my phone and my laptop ... I do NOT like the idea that it now has to go out to the 'cloud' somewhere with all my Contacts' information.
I just do not like it one bit! I want a direct link between phone and laptop ... even if I have to hardwire it to get the data updated.
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+1
My business should remain my business. Especially if you handle private informations.
iridio said:
+1
My business should remain my business. Especially if you handle private informations.
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Set up an Exchange server on an old PC then
/sarcasm
I can't for the life of me understand why people don't wanna move to the cloud... Accessible from anywhere, anyone?
Good for non-Microsoft PIM clients
Hi all
I think that the companion software comes into it's own if you have a non-Microsoft PIM/email client such as Lotus Notes, etc.
I tried it to get some data from my WM 6.5 device into my Googlemail account. That worked very well, but I probably wouldn't pay for it.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
it doenst resolve my sync problems on the phone itself. the phone will only sync with the main calendar at google. i need the others to. for syncing outlook to google i use gSyncIt. Its much cheaper and you have more control over the sync.
runandgun said:
The Outlook connector to sync to Hotmail is EXTREEMLY limited. In my normal Contacts folder I have about 5000 contacts. The calendar for the next 90 day includes almost 400 events. The Hotmail calendar hold enough events but does not SYNC the correct folder! I want to sync...NOT IMPORT. I think hotmail contacts are limited to a few hunderd.
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wait, you have 5k contacts and 400 events in the next 90 days, yet you don't have an exchange acct???
NoWorthWhile said:
Accessible from anywhere, anyone?
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Don't you mean "Accessible from anywhere BY anyone?"
CompanionLink is the sole reason I gave up on WP7 and moved to Android. It syncs my Outlook contacts, calendar, tasks and notes via USB to my Droid2.
No thanks to posting my vacation plans, parents' address, business contacts, etc. to the cloud (MS, Google or other) for any hacker to find.
CompanionLink isn't cheap, and it isn't perfect - it's about as accurate as ActiveSync was - but at least it offers a basic compatibility with Outlook that Microsoft decided to abandon.

[Q] Anyone know of a ROM that supports this?

Unified Google Calendar & Corporate Calendar (supports Exchange 2003 and 2007 & 2010 protocol)
I really, really, really don't want to have to move to a Droid Pro or X
I am not sure what you are looking for here. My corporate exchange email syncs the calendar as well as my google calendar. They show on the same screen with color codes distinguishing them from one another.
spence341 said:
I am not sure what you are looking for here. My corporate exchange email syncs the calendar as well as my google calendar. They show on the same screen with color codes distinguishing them from one another.
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My exchange never synced, I had to use touchdown for last year and just got kicked off the server for not being a compliant phone. Both the x and pro are and the both have that as their features on Verizon's website
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It's not as simple as just "Exchange 2010 compliant". It depends on what specific Exchange policies have been configured on your company's Exchange server. The server can even be configured to only accept specific phone models regardless of advertised policies (presumably to weed out phones that lie about their capabilities). If your IT department is locking down their Exchange servers, they really ought to publish which policies are required.
I can connect to my Exchange server with the stock Mail app and the Agenda widget pulls in my Exchange, Google, and Facebook calendars.

Gmail Exchange / Microsoft Exchange Activesync

What a great device, but I really miss the Microsoft Exchange Activesync account type.
I tried to setup via the new Google Exchance account type, and I can see my exchange mail just fine i Gmail. But I dont care for reading my professional life emails in gmail, so it would have been great if OnePlus had included an email app.
Anyway, I can see my calendar items in Google Calender just fine, both my gmail and exchange calendar item. So far so good.
Contacts however is a different matter. Gmail and Exhance contacts are cluttered all together in the dial (contracts), is there a way to exclude my gmail contacts so I only see Exchange contacts?. I can't seem to find any way to do that on the oneplus 3.
Also, not all my exchange contacts are there, so although sync is greenlighted the sync is not complete. Anybody else experience and fix that?
You could use this for exchange sync. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.office.outlook
Sendt fra min OnePlus 3
Try the app "Mail Wise" or "Nine"...my favorite is Nine!
keldbroe said:
You could use this for exchange sync. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.office.outlook
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Thanks, I tried it but I like using the google calendar, so although it looks good mailwise I am looking elsewhere.
Sledge2013 said:
Try the app "Mail Wise" or "Nine"...my favorite is Nine!
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Will try both..probably end up with Nine also since it has be best rep.
Well, 3rd time I set up exchange it looks like I now have working email, calendar and all my contacts.
Now I just need to find a good stand alone email app for my exchange email and then disable notifications of such emails from the gmail app.
Hmm, .they sure didn't make it easy.
I started usibg to one plus 3 recently. Phone is very good but badly miss the smoofh integration of microsoft exchange and contacts in my old Samsung phone in active syn mode. . Wish one plus 3 brings its own email app like what we see in i phone or samsung.
I personally use an outlook and Gmail address. I use Nine for my email app and just forward my Gmail to my outlook address. Could always create a secondary outlook adress as well just to handle the Gmail address.

Question Syncing Outlook.com Calendar and People with Google Calendar and Contacts

I just received my Pixel 6 Pro yesterday and am having problems trying to connect my Outlook.com account, where I have my Contacts and Calendar, to the phone. I am able to use the Outlook app with them, but I would like them to sync with the native Android Calendar and Contacts apps, like I have done on all my other Android phones.
My last phone, Samsung S9, had an Exchange Activesync type account which I used. The Pixel 6 doesn't seem to have that. I've found on Microsoft and Google web sites that I should be able to use Exchange type, and found the Outlook.com Incoming/Outgoing server and port information, but always get an error that the connection couldn't be made when I try to connect after entering these.
I'm mystified. Since I'm using Google Messages, in the past my contact names showed up instead of phone numbers. Now all my text history is just showing the phone numbers again. Frustrating.
If anyone has successfully synced these to the native apps, or knows what to do, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
Thanks
I know there's another thread about this subject in this section. I think there were some proposed solutions (I don't use Outlook.com, so I don't have any suggestions).
i have an outlook.com account (using office365 w/passwordless setup) and i have to go to "account microsoft com" to get a onetime app password in order to add an Exchange/Office365 account to GMail. once logged into my microsoft account, i navigate to Security->Additional Security options->scroll down to App passwords, then select the Create a new password link to get a password. i can sync, contacts, calendar, tasks and email using the Push option.
my feedback is based on the OP mentioning use of an "exchange type account".
I have managed to resolve this. I was finally able to create an Exchange account doing exactly what I had been doing and it finally worked. It's always a challenge to sync to Outlook.com whenever I get a new phone. Now I can go ahead and learn about the Pixel 6 Pro.
anitacan said:
I have managed to resolve this. I was finally able to create an Exchange account doing exactly what I had been doing and it finally worked. It's always a challenge to sync to Outlook.com whenever I get a new phone. Now I can go ahead and learn about the Pixel 6 Pro.
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Awesome! And welcome to XDA (besides any potential previous lurking).
anitacan said:
I just received my Pixel 6 Pro yesterday and am having problems trying to connect my Outlook.com account, where I have my Contacts and Calendar, to the phone. I am able to use the Outlook app with them, but I would like them to sync with the native Android Calendar and Contacts apps, like I have done on all my other Android phones.
My last phone, Samsung S9, had an Exchange Activesync type account which I used. The Pixel 6 doesn't seem to have that. I've found on Microsoft and Google web sites that I should be able to use Exchange type, and found the Outlook.com Incoming/Outgoing server and port information, but always get an error that the connection couldn't be made when I try to connect after entering these.
I'm mystified. Since I'm using Google Messages, in the past my contact names showed up instead of phone numbers. Now all my text history is just showing the phone numbers again. Frustrating.
If anyone has successfully synced these to the native apps, or knows what to do, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
Thanks
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i have an outlook.com account (using office365 w/passwordless setup) and i have to go to "account microsoft com" to get a onetime app password in order to add an Exchange/Office365 account to GMail. once logged into my microsoft account, i navigate to Security->Additional Security options->scroll down to App passwords, then select the Create a new password link to get a password. i can sync, contacts, calendar, tasks and email using the Push option.
my feedback is based on the OP mentioning use of an "exchange type account".
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AFAIK, Outlook, whether the desktop or mobile app, auto configures Microsoft accounts as limited exchange accounts (Microsoft switched its public email over to Exchange around a decade ago) and generally there is no benefit to manually configuring them as Exchange accounts since it's not possible to enable the features a normal Exchange account would have.
anitacan said:
I have managed to resolve this. I was finally able to create an Exchange account doing exactly what I had been doing and it finally worked. It's always a challenge to sync to Outlook.com whenever I get a new phone. Now I can go ahead and learn about the Pixel 6 Pro.
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If you also use the Outlook desktop app, or want a no hassle sync between Microsoft and Google accounts, you may find CompanionLink sync software a more efficient method to sync calendars, contacts, tasks, etc. between your Outlook and Google accounts. CompanionLink offers a range of dual service sync solutions, as well as CompanionLink Pro that includes all of them.

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