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Devs, n00bs, seniors, everyone. Please calm down.
N00bs..read before you post. This is a big cause to recent drama. I read a thread today and the same question was asked and answered on like3 straight pages... this is not called for.
Devs please consider the level of readiness before posting a Rom. My fav developer makes his Rom as close to bug free by having about 10 guys test the Rom before he releases it. Doing this would cut back on n00b questions and stupid posts. I love all you work this is just an idea.
Everyone else please don't fight and make things worse. Help the n00bs with links to forum rules and such.
I make all these mistakes too. But we need to fix it. We are losing our community.
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I'll add to this a bit if you don't mind. Any noobs feel free to pm me whatever the question may be and I will try to help. There is no sense starting a new thread because 99%of the time the question has been answered and i honestly I like to help. I don't have time to develop so this is my attempt to give back to a community I got a lot out of. I may not have your answer but will most likely be able to send you in the right direction and knipp is extremely helpful and knowledgeable as well. I personally don't care but don't post a thread like help plz I bricked my phone in the dev section unless you have a pair of flame retardant pants. Look bottom line is I'm here to help if anyone needs it
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Also knipp what do you think about starting a kind of all in one place thread similar to what's stickied in the dev section only a little more recent and updated with an faq? I don't know how many times I posted the gingerbread ruu for people recently. If you don't have the time I can do it or certainly help at the very least. Just wanted to get your opinion on this matter
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knipp21 said:
Devs please consider the level of readiness before posting a Rom. My fav developer makes his Rom as close to bug free by having about 10 guys test the Rom before he releases it. Doing this would cut back on n00b questions and stupid posts. I love all you work this is just an idea.
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This. It's extremely refreshing when a dev spends good time creating a ROM for a phone. It's nice to be handed a ROM that has been tested and is essentially bug free. I praise the guys that do that, and the guys that stick to their work. Doing it for fun rather than for money.
Of course I'm not expecting a good ROM to fall into our laps, I do like to follow projects from start to finish just as long as the dev(s) are working solely on that project - Like Cyanogen.

I agree about posting ROMs that are fully tested.. but then only 10 or so get to enjoy the ROM until it's stable. It's nice having everyone give feedback because 100 testers is better than 10. But I 100% agree with you, we need to get this community back on track, and we as users can help indefinitely.
We need to remember, not too long ago we we n00bs. I didn't even know what an .apk was. Now I know how to edit and decompile .apks.
Let's help to make this a fun and sharing community again.

oxlong27 said:
Also knipp what do you think about starting a kind of all in one place thread similar to what's stickied in the dev section only a little more recent and updated with an faq? I don't know how many times I posted the gingerbread ruu for people recently. If you don't have the time I can do it or certainly help at the very least. Just wanted to get your opinion on this matter
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Great idea. I'm in a radar class all week so I can't do it but if anyone wants to that would be awesome. I hope our mod will sticky it.
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Ill start work on it tonight when the kids are in bed. If anyone has any useful links or anything in general you think should be there feel free to pm me
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oxlong27 said:
Ill start work on it tonight when the kids are in bed. If anyone has any useful links or anything in general you think should be there feel free to pm me
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Include the fact you can't use sense programs on aosp roms. And other stuff lol
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Haha ill put that in bold. Hlp plzzz flashed tiamat on skyraider and i can haz no wifi. Hahahahahahah
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Yes, you have to wipe.

Hey guys im not gonna get to starr the all in one thread tonight my son is crazy sick and cant sleep. Ill start tomorrow night, meanwhile shoot me some suggestions on what you think should be included
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Which rom has the latest updates??

Have had this phone for under a week and just wondering which of the custom roms have the latest official updates. There seems to be so many different updates that I cant tell which one is the latest. And I dont mean the jelly bean leaks. Right now Im running FreeGs3 Release 6 and seems to be pretty good. Also any advise in which tw roms you guys think are the best, and which ones get updated more frequently, battery life,, etc.. Any info would be very appreciated. Thanks
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UVALH2 is the latest official release. So look for roms based on that.
FreeGS3 is an outstanding rom imo, based on UVALG1 which is one of two out of box builds.
UVALEM is the original.
Everything else are leaks. The latest being UVDLI8. The latest jb leaks have bern somewhat buggy and addicted to the juice. The most developed of these are wildchlds XquiziT xD and djintrigues Frosty jb. Wanam just released an LI8 build as well.
Xquizit is based on LI8 and Sprints recent leak.
Frosty is based on UVDLI6 and 7.
There are a number of other roms obviously but these are the ones i am personally familiar with.
Hope it helps.
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Lol looks like you got the s3 around the same time i did. Too bad i can't answer your questions.. i jumped straight to aokp and cm10 lol. I think you can look at any of the ics Roms and they should be on the latest. All the jb are leaks
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DocHoliday77 said:
UVALH2 is the latest official release. So look for roms based on that.
FreeGS3 is an outstanding rom imo, based on UVALG1 which is one of two out of box builds.
UVALEM is the original.
Everything else are leaks. The latest being UVDLI8. The latest jb leaks have bern somewhat buggy and addicted to the juice. The most developed of these are wildchlds XquiziT xD and djintrigues Frosty jb. Wanam just released an LI8 build as well.
Xquizit is based on LI8 and Sprints recent leak.
Frosty is based on UVDLI6 and 7.
There are a number of other roms obviously but these are the ones i am personally familiar with.
Hope it helps.
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Thanks!
Teo032 said:
Lol looks like you got the s3 around the same time i did. Too bad i can't answer your questions.. i jumped straight to aokp and cm10 lol. I think you can look at any of the ics Roms and they should be on the latest. All the jb are leaks
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Lol yes man just got the phone last friday. Glad to see someone from the S2 forums here
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Most threads have the change logs.....

psykhotic said:
Most threads have the change logs.....
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You know when you first get into a new phone, you don't know which version is new especially with what... 9 leaks? I don't even know which ones are all the official ones. Doc's post actually helps a lot for those new to this device. I'm sure many of us appreciate his post.
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Teo032 said:
You know when you first get into a new phone, you don't know which version is new especially with what... 9 leaks? I don't even know which ones are all the official ones. Doc's post actually helps a lot for those new to this device. I'm sure many of us appreciate his post.
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Exactly, Docs post help me a lot, wish I could give him more thanks on that post. Also wish people were more like him here
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Teo032 said:
You know when you first get into a new phone, you don't know which version is new especially with what... 9 leaks? I don't even know which ones are all the official ones. Doc's post actually helps a lot for those new to this device. I'm sure many of us appreciate his post.
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He asked how often the devs update their ROMs. It's kind of a question that needs to be answered by reading post 1 in each ROMs thread. Unless you want to go copy and paste all of it don't criticize me? What I said had NOTHING to do with docs post.

elflip88 said:
Exactly, Docs post help me a lot, wish I could give him more thanks on that post. Also wish people were more like him here
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Thanks! There really are a lot of great people here, some more visible than others, and a lot of them know a lot more than i do and often prove to be more help than me!
Just remember to take some stuff extra lightly, especially in the general and q&a sections. There really are a lot of threads and questions that get repeated over and over. in my opinion its usually not so much the person or the question, but for many people its the giving of the same answers over and over again. it can just get a little tiring. (As much as i enjoy helping everyone, every now and then i just have to take a break from certain areas!)
You will probably find that once youve become used to the people here, that many of the folks you thought were rude or inconsiderate will wind up being extremely helpful and may even save your ass someday! Its just that they may have already answered a similar or same question multiple times.
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psykhotic said:
He asked how often the devs update their ROMs. It's kind of a question that needs to be answered by reading post 1 in each ROMs thread. Unless you want to go copy and paste all of it don't criticize me? What I said had NOTHING to do with docs post.
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I wasn't criticizing you. It's just that your post isn't helpful. It's just a smartass remark. The guy even stated that he just came over and wanted specific questions answered. It's not like he went and ask a n00b question like "what's the best Rom". What i was saying is that his question led to an answer that is very beneficial to everyone. You feel me?
This is a community, why are you going to be on a forum if you're just gonna make smart sarcastic remarks to everything? It doesn't hurt to ask question. If you need help them ask. People are willing to answer it. But you seem to be bothered by every little question possible. Are you trying to be the bad guy on this forum or something?
I don't have anything against you, and i can tell you're a smart guy, but if you're not willing to share knowledge and help others, don't bring them down.
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DocHoliday77 said:
You will probably find that once youve become used to the people here, that many of the folks you thought were rude or inconsiderate will wind up being extremely helpful and may even save your ass someday! Its just that they may have already answered a similar or same question multiple times.
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You said it doc, it's not unusual to see a lot of the same questions asked over and over, but it happens especially the first few months of new phone releases. We came from the T-Mobile s2 and we were known as the dark corner of xda for a bit lol so we're use to it. But things got sorted out and the s2 section became actually a cool place.
For example, all the root and recovery questions. There are like 4-5 threads here that talks about root. There's bound to be confusion. it'll be nice if someone compiled a thread with all the root methods and troubleshooting
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elflip88 said:
Have had this phone for under a week and just wondering which of the custom roms have the latest official updates.
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DocHoliday77 said:
UVALH2 is the latest official release. So look for roms based on that.
FreeGS3 is an outstanding rom imo, based on UVALG1 which is one of two out of box builds.
UVALEM is the original.
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psykhotic said:
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That would be the first place I would look too.
DocHoliday77 said:
Thanks! There really are a lot of great people here, some more visible than others, and a lot of them know a lot more than i do and often prove to be more help than me!
Just remember to take some stuff extra lightly, especially in the general and q&a sections. There really are a lot of threads and questions that get repeated over and over. in my opinion its usually not so much the person or the question, but for many people its the giving of the same answers over and over again. it can just get a little tiring. (As much as i enjoy helping everyone, every now and then i just have to take a break from certain areas!)
You will probably find that once youve become used to the people here, that many of the folks you thought were rude or inconsiderate will wind up being extremely helpful and may even save your ass someday! Its just that they may have already answered a similar or same question multiple times.
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^^^^^THIS^^^^^
Teo032 said:
It'll be nice if someone compiled a thread with all the root methods and troubleshooting
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I smell a Bible in the works. Needs to be done sooner, rather than later or those 4-5 threads about the same thing will multiply like a virus.
Thread Closed. Question was Asked and Answered.

Can somebody make a new thread on general forum?

I think we need a new thread on general about 4.2.1 discussion and issues. another thread about 4.1.2 This is for CM, AOKP vanilla roms. I would make the thread but I have no experience in putting all of these together

I would but no uses them they love to clutter the dev ROMs with the same stuff over and over and over. I tried to get a CM 10.1 thread going based off my CM10 thread, lasted for about 4 posts lol
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mt3g said:
I would but no uses them they love to clutter the dev ROMs with the same stuff over and over and over. I tried to get a CM 10.1 thread going based off my CM10 thread, lasted for about 4 posts lol
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Lmao there is a thread like that on the s2 forum. It was very useful to find what issues these roms have.
Right now we dont have a thread like that. That can tell users including me and keep up with the issues and bugs these roms may have.

Maybe I'll really start working on the rom bible.
Here's the CM10/.1 thread I gave up on cause no uses it lol.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1813456

I'm making the "ROM bible now", only reviewing and giving a lost of mods on threads that have at least 50,000 views. I will create a link to others and label them as TW or AOSP influenced.
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gypsy214 said:
I think we need a new thread on general about 4.2.1 discussion and issues. another thread about 4.1.2 This is for CM, AOKP vanilla roms. I would make the thread but I have no experience in putting all of these together
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How to make a new thread

Noobs, trolls and Know-it-alls......

Once again they ruined it for us all! R.I.P. to the Frosty JB rom thread. It will be missed. Salute.
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Can not believe that crap. DJ gave us thr on ly rom I truly liked, and little childish crap forced him to close his thread. He came back to us once. Not going to happen this time. Will sure mis my regular frosty updates
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akindbro4u said:
Can not believe that crap. DJ gave us thr on ly rom I truly liked, and little childish crap forced him to close his thread. He came back to us once. Not going to happen this time. Will sure mis my regular frosty updates
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I'm gonna miss them as well. Smdh. I'm currently looking for a new rom for my S3.... sad but true.
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That really shows the type of people that go through the forums. Once they installed their first 2 or 3 roms and kernels, and looked through 4 pages of android development, they feel they know everything. I really wish dj could leak that final Frosty rom update one day...
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And all over battery life. Mine us great, but even have had bad days where battery just drained. To many factors to say its the rom. And why argue it there. I dont undersrand sone people. They just want a fight.
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It was the fact that 5 people were commenting on the same darn thing that wasn't even related to the rom. That's what PMing is for bros.
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I agree. I was using Wicked for a long time and decided to give Frosty a try, and I loved it. I have been using it for a few weeks now and I also have great battery life with it. I will keep using it for a while. Hopefully DJ will come back.

What was the persons name that insulted DJ, I'll get 'em... I think DJ will be back, he loves this way too much, one way or another he'll be back.
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I couldn't post on the original tred and I wanted to say that frosty rom is the smoothest rom of all for me with no problems at all of any kind and I tried them all. It behaves the way just I want it. Thank you Mr. Dev and god bless you.
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bigtom624 said:
I agree. I was using Wicked for a long time and decided to give Frosty a try, and I loved it. I have been using it for a few weeks now and I also had great battery life with it. I will keep using it for a while. Hopefully DJ will come back.
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Same here man frosty was my favorite rom. I didn't even realize this happened until I just saw this thread. Major bummer
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So he took his ball and went home. Don't worry about the thousands that love your work and your ROM (myself included by the way), just the handful that criticize it.

Aerowinder said:
So he took his ball and went home. Don't worry about the thousands that love your work and your ROM (myself included by the way), just the handful that criticize it.
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Bold words that speak the truth in a harsh way. Wurd!!!!
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I am saddened by what has gone down. I remember a time when post where constructive and not a pissing match. Unfortunately with more and more people come here and join the chances of this happening grows.
I know the frustration of seeing someone complain about something know to be issues or someone thinking it's a problem with the rom when no one else has issues. Just remember we where all noobs at one time or another and remember that one person that helped you out with something vs the person that flamed you for not knowing.
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jenaltals said:
That really shows the type of people that go through the forums. Once they installed their first 2 or 3 roms and kernels, and looked through 4 pages of android development, they feel they know everything. I really wish dj could leak that final Frosty rom update one day...
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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.

Bass_Man25 said:
I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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Nooooooooo!!! Hope not. I've been using XDA forever. I'm not a Dev or a noob, but I contribute my findings and help when I can!
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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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They should! Lol 80 percent of these people dont even know what root means
Rule #1 Respect the Devs. Rule #2 Refer back to Rule #1

scooter247 said:
I am saddened by what has gone down. I remember a time when post where constructive and not a pissing match. Unfortunately with more and more people come here and join the chances of this happening grows.
I know the frustration of seeing someone complain about something know to be issues or someone thinking it's a problem with the rom when no one else has issues. Just remember we where all noobs at one time or another and remember that one person that helped you out with something vs the person that flamed you for not knowing.
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I was that at one point also, when the G1 came out and JesusFreke was making roms, and people had to use ADB to obtain root and be able to flash things. I learned since then and read and read and read. The problem now a days is that most don't care to read a little, or at all. Most of the questions asked in a thread are answered, or been discussed, or don't even belong in the dev section. This is extremely aggravating to the devs, or themers, when they right up a huge OP and no one uses it, and just clutters up their dev thread with useless questions and/or nonconstructive criticism. I don't blame him for quitting or locking the thread, if people feel it's at its prime, then leave it alone and don't touch it anymore. Most of the TouchWiz roms have the best version yet to come, or they came and went a while ago. Most of the mods they incorporated are flashable on your own, anyways. Thank him and respect decisions, or use one of the other 10+ TouchWiz roms.

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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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Haha don't exaggerate while there are a few dummies out there, most of us are well behave at the end of the day we are the consumers.
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Jesusfreke was the pioneer of modding for Android. Without him I believe that we would not be as far with android as devs, manufacturers, or even android its self.
Look at thouchwiz its self with the toggles in the notification Window. This came from cm. We the community can end up pushing for devs with true innovation to go back underground where their work is not seen in mass people, Google, or manufacturers. Then android may end up missing what could become greatness all for petty arguments. I follow one such dev in a private forum and it's a shame he was forced to by thing like this.
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Hey guys,
I let this thread go for awhile (I was logged on when he created it) and you all have said your piece/peace, in an almost professional manner which I for one appreciate very much. But now it is time for this OT thread to be closed. I do invite you to the Official OT thread to continue this discussion, as a few have already been doing.
Thanks you for being civil about it, but the time for this thread has expired.
Wood

[Rom]Chameleon OS Nightly

Hey guys this is not my work just happen to come across it yesterday and thought i would share. (if it should not be here then im sry and will remover) you find out all info here http://www.chameleonos.org/index.php i have been running it now for over 24 hours and must say its nice goot batt,Stable so far and look very nice here are a fre screens. it can be found in goomanger also but the dl is SUPER slow so i will put up a mirrior to the nighlty onen they are down uploading

Should not be posted here without their permission, or a mods since it isn't your work in any way, if anything put it in general.
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mt3g said:
Should not be posted here without their permission, or a mods since it isn't your work in any way, if anything put it in general.
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and i quote from there home page "We will be completely open source and will welcome developers to join us, whether it be by maintaining a device or utilizing our gerrit review. Even if you're not a developer, your voice will not go unheard. We will continually poll our users for the most wanted features and do our best to implement them."
MOD plz move to gen sec

I like the gecko on the lock screen
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Thread moved as this is not the OP's developed rom, also, this rom is already posted elsewhere...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2235486.
And thus - Thread Closed