I just want the old way of swiping into camera, unlock and google now.
the new swipe into camera is noticeably slower than the old method.
found a mod for GSM nexus but not for LTE nexus
poena said:
I just want the old way of swiping into camera, unlock and google now.
the new swipe into camera is noticeably slower than the old method.
found a mod for GSM nexus but not for LTE nexus
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Yes...I honestly dont like 4.2 at all. Kinda sux really. I dont like the quicksettings and I think the lockscreen is a step backwards...if I wanted lockscreen widgets Id buy widgetlocker.
Im still using 4.1.2 because of the sdcard crap that is going on with 4.2. I have no idea why google named the sdcard 0. Thats pretty stupid when it comes to compatibility and upgrading software. Something so simple causes so much probs. Ive had all my current sdcard stuff moved to /data/media...which it cannot be read from there (ie like gallery, etc). So...I manually move it back to sdcard...and it ruins all my pictures..0 byte jpgs...gray images...thanks google.
That and I couldnt tell you how many duplicate places there is for the sdcard. /storage/emulated0..../storage/legacy.../sdcard/0.../data/media...and having duplicate gobledy gook everywhere.
So...Im with you on the lockscreen...but not just that...its much worse.
edit: while Im at it I may as well just gripe about the kernels lately. All of them have jacked up wifi for me. I have no idea why...my wifi stalls all the time since the 3.0.49 branch. No dev has worked them out yet. I get dropped connections all the time....I get stalls (which I have blue connectivity (full bars)...and pages wont load...its just kinda stuck there in lingo with the incoming/outgoing arrows toggling back and forth....then sometimes it will load after 30 seconds...sometimes a minute or more. Ive had to disconnect wifi...turn it back on. Ive tried every kernel...every new release...everything from tons of different devs...they all do it. The only one that doesnt do it is tiny's. But...tiny kernel doesnt multitask for me well. I get major lag backing out of apps...if I have mulitiple processes going on...its stalling too (UI at least). Honestly its gotten so annoying that It makes me want to throw my phone against the wall.
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I dont like the quicksettings and I think the lockscreen is a step backwards...if I wanted lockscreen widgets Id buy widgetlocker.
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Yeah, they just didn't speed anything up for me. It was like when Microsoft puts yet another meaningless dialog between you and the setting you want to change.
The lock screen is baffling. The whole point of a lock screen is to lock the phone. Not provide another launcher. That, and it just behaves strangely.
About the lock screen rant: disable it with lock screen policy app from play store.
About the SD card rant: done for multi user compatibility and you wont have an issue if you didn't wipe out the special file with your old recovery
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About the lock screen rant: disable it with lock screen policy app from play store.
About the SD card rant: done for multi user compatibility and you wont have an issue if you didn't wipe out the special file with your old recovery
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actually i DID have an issue. I didnt wipe specific files with my old recovery. I did like I always do...wiped cache...factory reset..format system...flash new rom. 4.2 MOVES your current sdcard contents to /data/media on the rom I flashed....and not only did it move them there...it "blanked" them. All of my apks were not parsed properly...and all my jpgs were 0 byte files that were empty. Nandroid restore did not restore my pictures because it doesnt effect /data/media.....which is where the 4.2 flash moved my stuff in the first place. It turned my pics in to 0 byte files which were all still present...only they were empty files. Restore didnt fix it...twrp latest. Moving them back to /sdcard didnt fix it either.
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actually i DID have an issue. I didnt wipe specific files with my old recovery. I did like I always do...wiped cache...factory reset..format system...flash new rom. 4.2 MOVES your current sdcard contents to /data/media on the rom I flashed....and not only did it move them there...it "blanked" them. All of my apks were not parsed properly...and all my jpgs were 0 byte files that were empty. Nandroid restore did not restore my pictures because it doesnt effect /data/media.....which is where the 4.2 flash moved my stuff in the first place. It turned my pics in to 0 byte files which were all still present...only they were empty files. Restore didnt fix it...twrp latest. Moving them back to /sdcard didnt fix it either.
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That's something different. Moving files won't corrupt them. This is not recovery related.
I am using lockscreen policy to disable widgets but I need to be able to swipe into camera. so I had to leave that.
poena said:
I just want the old way of swiping into camera, unlock and google now.
the new swipe into camera is noticeably slower than the old method.
found a mod for GSM nexus but not for LTE nexus
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I like it but opening the camera is kinda laggy and too slow for me. And also the messaging widget should be able to send the texts straight from the lockscreen instead of going into the messaging app first! But the idea of widgets on lock screen is pretty cool!
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actually i DID have an issue. I didnt wipe specific files with my old recovery. I did like I always do...wiped cache...factory reset..format system...flash new rom. 4.2 MOVES your current sdcard contents to /data/media on the rom I flashed....and not only did it move them there...it "blanked" them. All of my apks were not parsed properly...and all my jpgs were 0 byte files that were empty. Nandroid restore did not restore my pictures because it doesnt effect /data/media.....which is where the 4.2 flash moved my stuff in the first place. It turned my pics in to 0 byte files which were all still present...only they were empty files. Restore didnt fix it...twrp latest. Moving them back to /sdcard didnt fix it either.
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Is this not caused by using a recovery not designed for 4.2? I thought the new recovery's fixed the issues.
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I am using lockscreen policy to disable widgets but I need to be able to swipe into camera. so I had to leave that.
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You've hit on the exact reason why the new lock screen is an improvement. Apparently you don't use any security on your lockscreen, but for those who do there was no way to get to your camera before. The new lockscreen may not be perfect, but it's a huge improvement.
Yep and I made a poll about this. Most people want to be able to disable it natively.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2023434
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You've hit on the exact reason why the new lock screen is an improvement. Apparently you don't use any security on your lockscreen, but for those who do there was no way to get to your camera before. The new lockscreen may not be perfect, but it's a huge improvement.
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yup
currently not using any security measures.
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That's something different. Moving files won't corrupt them. This is not recovery related.
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I never said it was recovery related. I'm stating what happened when I went to 4.2. How could you prove anything or what caused it. You weren't there. You haven't seen any data or logs. Yet you state your opinion as fact.
I'm stating my opinion of 4.2.+ is don't like the new features... at least not all. Multiple users is cool. Lock screen and quick settings sucks. I'm entitled to my opinion just as others who like it.
Anyone remember one of the original reasons for "locking" phones? To prevent accidental activation. This new lock screen bypass really opens up a hole there. It's not improbable that someone can start the camera and burn down their battery really fast.
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Anyone remember one of the original reasons for "locking" phones? To prevent accidental activation. This new lock screen bypass really opens up a hole there. It's not improbable that someone can start the camera and burn down their battery really fast.
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I suppose that pockets conduct electricity now?
haydonxda said:
Anyone remember one of the original reasons for "locking" phones? To prevent accidental activation. This new lock screen bypass really opens up a hole there. It's not improbable that someone can start the camera and burn down their battery really fast.
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I think the original reason was to prevent butt dialing. Nowadays with so much personal information on phones security is a major reason too. Accidentally running down the battery in the rare situation where your junk accidentally slides open the camera is not a serious concern in my book.
haydonxda said:
Anyone remember one of the original reasons for "locking" phones? To prevent accidental activation. This new lock screen bypass really opens up a hole there. It's not improbable that someone can start the camera and burn down their battery really fast.
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That's why there's new forms to lock your phone(pin, passwords, etc). You still can't get into the phone if you have it pin/password protected.
For the haters of the new lockscreen-
To clarify a bit with an example: I have my phone pin protected with the messaging widget. I can still see the texts I have in the messaging widget, but when I click to view one, it asks for my pin. Now, if I go to the camera app, if I swipe towards the right, I get a lock icon. If I click on Home, I get asked for my pin.
Now, what's the issue? Aside from just not liking a different implementation.
As for swiping up to get to Now, you still do that. The anchor is just a bit lower now.
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That's why there's new forms to lock your phone(pin, passwords, etc). You still can't get into the phone if you have it pin/password protected.
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But you can activate the phone. And you can bypass security.
Okay, there are two reasons to have a locking mechanism:
1) accidental activation
2) security
The rationale for #1 was largely "butt dialing". Today, instead of burning cell minutes and battery now you can just find yourself with a flat battery. You can now activate the phone without entering in a proper lock code. You can't bypass the security aspect of it but you can now burn down your battery rapidly by accidentally turning on the camera.
The rationale for #2 is to keep prying eyes away from your device and/or attempt to stop someone else from putting cell charges on your bill. But you can put widgets on the screen that display MMS and email.
It's like having two layers of locking. That in itself isn't terrible but what kills the idea is #1 above.
DirgeExtinction said:
That's why there's new forms to lock your phone(pin, passwords, etc). You still can't get into the phone if you have it pin/password protected.
For the haters of the new lockscreen-
To clarify a bit with an example: I have my phone pin protected with the messaging widget. I can still see the texts I have in the messaging widget, but when I click to view one, it asks for my pin. Now, if I go to the camera app, if I swipe towards the right, I get a lock icon. If I click on Home, I get asked for my pin.
Now, what's the issue? Aside from just not liking a different implementation.
As for swiping up to get to Now, you still do that. The anchor is just a bit lower now.
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That you have no control about what information is exposed if you put the widgets on the lockscreen. What if someone emails/messages you a password of a kind or something and its visible in the list ? Lets hope Google polishes it for next major release.
Running 4.1.2 now.
4.2 sucks.
Ugly lock screen
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madd0g said:
That you have no control about what information is exposed if you put the widgets on the lockscreen. What if someone emails/messages you a password of a kind or something and its visible in the list ? Lets hope Google polishes it for next major release.
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Several times I have edited my app drawer order, grouping apps by type on each page (a page for games, a page for internet stuff, a page for utilities, etc.), creating folders, etc. Then I hit Menu > Save, and everything is fine, until I reboot my phone. Then it loses the app order, and a few apps get seemingly randomly moved to their own pages, so the total number of pages grows from about 5 to upwards of 8 or 9. It seems like the most recently added apps get moved, but not always. I move them all back how they should be, but they only stay until a reboot.
Anyone else have this happen? Or better, found out why? Or even better, how to make them stay?
Really? Does nobody sort their apps? Or nobody has had this problem?
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Really? Does nobody sort their apps? Or nobody has had this problem?
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Are you on stock or a custom ROM?
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JohnCorleone said:
Are you on stock or a custom ROM?
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Stock+root.
xak944 said:
Really? Does nobody sort their apps? Or nobody has had this problem?
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I don't sort them in the App Drawer. I leave them arranged alphabetically grid or list. I do arrange the ones I most often use somewhere on the 7 Home Screens though.
They will not stay. It is an annoying problem. I use folders now to group my apps. And I have my apps sorted to stop the spacing issue.
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I will try to replicate it. I am using ADW EX so I will switch it up and see what happens
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Still happening on Starburst ROM 1.5, so the problem it's with TouchWiz and is not ROM-specific.
I made a backup of TWLauncher with Titanium, so when my drawer gets really messed up I restore data from the backup (killing the running process) and it does restore my app layout as it was when I made the backup. Not a solution, but a lot quicker than re-sorting 50 apps. If only I could figure out how to trigger a save of the layout...it seems to just do it occasionally and I can't figure out what triggers it (certainly not when the Save button gets pressed...as if that makes sense).
Had anyone replicated this issue on TouchWiz 3.5? (or is it 4.0... whatever the flashable one is that's newer than what ships with the device).
I know what u mean but for me its all good after i fix it a second time untill i change then itll revert to just before i changed
It only happened to me on 4.5 thiugh
Good thing actual tw4 launcher doesnt have that problem
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Still happening on Starburst ROM 1.5, so the problem it's with TouchWiz and is not ROM-specific.
I made a backup of TWLauncher with Titanium, so when my drawer gets really messed up I restore data from the backup (killing the running process) and it does restore my app layout as it was when I made the backup. Not a solution, but a lot quicker than re-sorting 50 apps. If only I could figure out how to trigger a save of the layout...it seems to just do it occasionally and I can't figure out what triggers it (certainly not when the Save button gets pressed...as if that makes sense).
Had anyone replicated this issue on TouchWiz 3.5? (or is it 4.0... whatever the flashable one is that's newer than what ships with the device).
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Yes, it's a problem with TouchWiz - I can replicate this behaviour on my S2, factory 2.3.5 ROM without root
Mesquire said:
Yes, it's a problem with TouchWiz - I can replicate this behaviour on my S2, factory 2.3.5 ROM without root
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Bummer. Guess we have to wait for an official update to get an updated launcher.
are you saving the changes ?
You have to make your changes then hit menu again and save changes.
otherwise they don't stick.
after clicking save don't press anything for 30 secs or so
that seems to do it for me
if i save and immediatly go back it doesn't save
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... Then I hit Menu > Save, and everything is fine, until I reboot my phone.
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mjcollum said:
are you saving the changes ?
You have to make your changes then hit menu again and save changes.
otherwise they don't stick.
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Says so right there in the OP.
mjcollum said:
after clicking save don't press anything for 30 secs or so
that seems to do it for me
if i save and immediatly go back it doesn't save
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Okay, I'll do some organizing and give that a try.
hi all,
after updating my galaxy s2 from 2.3.3 to 2.3.5 with kies, i had the same problem about sorting applications page.
i didnt reset my phone before or after updating with kies. first i tought that i might be about this. i was looking for a solution and i read these posts. without resetting my phone i just tried to delete files of TW Launcher.
Settings>Applications>Manage applications>All(tab)
find and tap "TW Launcer"
tap "Clear data" button.
after that my home screen and applications screen look default.
applications screen sorted alphabetical.
i customized my home and app screen again and till now didnt change anyting, i mean didnt forget the layout of apps.
i wanted to share this little unprofessional solution with you =)
if there is a better way i want to learn.
finally i have a question, after updating to 2.3.5, when i tap contacts, it opens slowly, after 1 or 1.5 seconds lag(black screen) it opens. but not always. it happens just sometimes.
do you have the same behaviour?
sory for my english. looking forward to see your answers or comments.
i tried and there is no problem anymore
tuncaycoskun said:
i tried and there is no problem anymore
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How about you share what you did?
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How about you share what you did?
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14th post,
see my firs post
I'm really surprised I haven't seen more people complaining about it but I guess most are not running TouchWiz.
To re-explain the problem I'm having..
You arrange all the applications in different panels the way you want (after you hit "applications" not the home screen panels)
After turning the phone off and on again Or plugging it in to the computer via USB and removing it, all the applications are a mess again. Not the way you arranged them and there doesn't seem to be any logic behind it.
It's not just the way they were the last time you turned the phone off or the last time you plugged in the USB cable.
I also thought having folders in an earlier panel may be causing later panels apps to get bumped around but I've tried it with the folders in the last panel and I get the same randomness.
Similar threads Without a solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1324365
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296060
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358464
This seems like a pretty obvious question but all the searches I do come up with unrelated stuff about the phone lock screen but.....
Can you set some sort of pin/pattern to access the settings menu of your phone? basically so anytime someone clicks on a settings shortcut they get a prompt asking for a code to access it.
Seems like a nice and simple security measure but I can't seem to find anyway to make it possible.
Maybe this is a more general Android question than one for the GN but a GN and ICS is what I have
Look for "app protector" in the market.
Thanks but the free lite version on the market has so pretty bad reviews for it that look nasty
Honest question, why would you want to do this?
Well to stop people like my kids wiping settings like market to buy in app purchase with no pin is one example
Jezz_X said:
Well to stop people like my kids wiping settings like market to buy in app purchase with no pin is one example
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Can't you tell them not to do that? Otherwise they don't get to use your phone?
Seems more like a parenting issue all of the sudden..
Well that was just an example another would be to stop people resetting Google wallet if youloose your phone and have no lock screen on wake
i set a PIN password on mine (which requires you to enter a PIN every time the phone is rebooted, and i use the autolock toggle from Widgetsoid 2.x Donate to temporarily disable the PIN lock when i'm in a safe area like at home for instance (no kids here). the PIN is restored by the OS if the phone is rebooted.
i dunno about the GNex, but on my Moto phone, you can bypass apps like App Protector by rebooting the phone into safe mode. that's not a risk with my method, access is controlled by the OS as long as the PIN is not temporarily disabled.
You really should be setting up a phone lock AND minding who's using your phone.
For app purchases, you can setup a pin for the market if you're worried about your kids purchasing apps, but the system-wide restrictions settings are quite limited compared with the setting which iOs offers.
EP2008 said:
You really should be setting up a phone lock AND minding who's using your phone.
For app purchases, you can setup a pin for the market if you're worried about your kids purchasing apps, but the system-wide restrictions settings are quite limited compared with the setting which iOs offers.
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I kind of agree but some time its a pain to constantly have the screen lock on
As for app purchaces like I said above all you have to do is go into settings\apps
and clear market data and the pin code is gone and you can buy anything again
And your kids would know how to go into settings and clear cache for the market and then go buy a app?
It's simple. Don't let your kids use your phone, I don't understand why you would let them use it anyway. You give it the risk of having it being dropped / damaged / etc.
s2d4 said:
Can't you tell them not to do that? Otherwise they don't get to use your phone?
Seems more like a parenting issue all of the sudden..
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You clearly have no idea about parenting. Please explain to my 14 month old how to not do that.
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zephiK said:
And your kids would know how to go into settings and clear cache for the market and then go buy a app?
It's simple. Don't let your kids use your phone, I don't understand why you would let them use it anyway. You give it the risk of having it being dropped / damaged / etc.
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You don't have kids so you don't understand. Why even reply.
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how dare you ask a question like that?
you should not ask for an app that does things like that unless you can provide a legitimate reason with sufficient evidence supporting your claims.
you should be banned from this forum.
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Guys please stop these kinds of useless responses. If you have an answer, a useful one of course, share it with us. If not, leave your personal suggestion to yourselves.
I bet most of you don't have kids, and apparently didn't have an answer to his request. However, instead of trying to find an app that could help the guy, you offer something you are obviously not qualified to be asked about in the first place.
Rem3Dy said:
You clearly have no idea about parenting. Please explain to my 14 month old how to not do that.
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That was a simple reply trying to figure out why the kids are doing it. It was just over an example he used.
Now you are clearly OT, however, what is a 14 months doing with your phone?
s2d4 said:
That was a simple reply trying to figure out why the kids are doing it. It was just over an example he used.
Now you are clearly OT, however, what is a 14 months doing with your phone?
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Let's see. My 14 month old knows how to press the power button and slide to unlock. Usually she goes straight for the camera as she says picta picta and repeatedly presses the shutter button.
Again if you were a parent you would understand.
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Rem3Dy said:
Let's see. My 14 month old knows how to press the power button and slide to unlock. Usually she goes straight for the camera as she says picta picta and repeatedly presses the shutter button.
Again if you were a parent you would understand
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Let me ask this again, why does your 14 month old have access to a 600-700 dollar device? It is not a toy for babies.
heh Most of the unlock apps in the market do let you lock the settings so that's that problem solved guess I just think it would be a nice default in a rom
The HTC One's stock browser comes with three locked bookmarks. I was wondering if there's a way to delete them without root? I've tried the bookbmark sort & backup and bookmark manager apps without any luck.
dashbored said:
The HTC One's stock browser comes with three locked bookmarks. I was wondering if there's a way to delete them without root? I've tried the bookbmark sort & backup and bookmark manager apps without any luck.
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If you're OK with Chrome you can sidestep the locked bookmark issue -- I've just hidden the stock browser from the app tray and don't even think about it. Another nice feature from Chrome is it will sync your bookmarks from other devices if you log in with the same Google account.
EDIT: ah, interesting -- just noticed a "Verizon" bookmarks folder in my Mobile bookmarks folder. Can't delete it. Hmmm, doesn't seem too distracting...
-Matt
gadgetrants said:
If you're OK with Chrome you can sidestep the locked bookmark issue -- I've just hidden the stock browser from the app tray and don't even think about it. Another nice feature from Chrome is it will sync your bookmarks from other devices if you log in with the same Google account.
EDIT: ah, interesting -- just noticed a "Verizon" bookmarks folder in my Mobile bookmarks folder. Can't delete it. Hmmm, doesn't seem too distracting...
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Hey Matt, appreciate the input. Yep I have chrome and opera mini installed, as well as dolphin, which used to be my main browser. I recently read about the dolphin browser being from china or routing data to a Chinese server, so I've pretty much stopped using it. The stock browser actually isn't bad - it feels just as fast as Chrome overall, and I like the "lab" UI on the stock browser a lot. And it seems to sync with the bookmarks from the google account too.
Stupid Verizon... guess we'll have to wait until root to delete them!
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Hey Matt, appreciate the input. Yep I have chrome and opera mini installed, as well as dolphin, which used to be my main browser. I recently read about the dolphin browser being from china or routing data to a Chinese server, so I've pretty much stopped using it. The stock browser actually isn't bad - it feels just as fast as Chrome overall, and I like the "lab" UI on the stock browser a lot. And it seems to sync with the bookmarks from the google account too.
Stupid Verizon... guess we'll have to wait until root to delete them!
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So what's this lab UI you speak of -- or did you mean to say "tab"? Is it worth unhiding the stock browser to check out? Didn't realize it also syncs Google bookmarks. Guess I should check those things before offering advice!
FWIW...speaking of root, this is my fifth day with the One and I'm totally understanding those "I can live with this phone as-is" testimonials. My only concern is whether it will start to slow down without regular shots of fstrim (which we'll get someday with 4.3). At least I know now how to get into the bootloader/ecovery to clear the regular cache.
-Matt
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So what's this lab UI you speak of -- or did you mean to say "tab"? Is it worth unhiding the stock browser to check out? Didn't realize it also syncs Google bookmarks. Guess I should check those things before offering advice!
FWIW...speaking of root, this is my fifth day with the One and I'm totally understanding those "I can live with this phone as-is" testimonials. My only concern is whether it will start to slow down without regular shots of fstrim (which we'll get someday with 4.3). At least I know now how to get into the bootloader/ecovery to clear the regular cache.
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Nope, I meant labs! It's almost like an easter egg... go to Settings --> Labs --> turn on Quick Control.
This puts the stock browser in full screen mode and hides everything. Very clean! The control is tricky at first - what I've discovered works best for me is to use the side of my thumb and roll over from the edge, as if running over a finger print scanner. Then, a wheel pops up with all settings, bookmarks, etc. Once you get the hang of it, it's super intuitive and so elegant.
And you know what... the same thing was already in my Rezound stock browser too! Maybe it's Sense thing? If so, HTC really sucks at marketing - I really love this feature.
Also I read in some posts that the stock browser gave the best battery life. In light of all the tracking going on, I am starting to try to pull back from all things Google. So for now, I am enjoying the stock browser - save for the stupid Verizon locked bookmarks!
What's this about fstrim and cleaning cache? Mind elaborating?
-Eric
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Nope, I meant labs! It's almost like an easter egg... go to Settings --> Labs --> turn on Quick Control.
This puts the stock browser in full screen mode and hides everything. Very clean! The control is tricky at first - what I've discovered works best for me is to use the side of my thumb and roll over from the edge, as if running over a finger print scanner. Then, a wheel pops up with all settings, bookmarks, etc. Once you get the hang of it, it's super intuitive and so elegant.
And you know what... the same thing was already in my Rezound stock browser too! Maybe it's Sense thing? If so, HTC really sucks at marketing - I really love this feature.
Also I read in some posts that the stock browser gave the best battery life. In light of all the tracking going on, I am starting to try to pull back from all things Google. So for now, I am enjoying the stock browser - save for the stupid Verizon locked bookmarks!
What's this about fstrim and cleaning cache? Mind elaborating?
-Eric
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Wow Eric, thanks for filling in the blanks. I definitely have to try it.
Here's the quick breakdown on my side:
fstrim -- The TRIM function in Android/Linux takes memory space that has been deleted, and informs the memory controller that it's available (it normally doesn't check until it tries to find writable space which eats up CPU time). The fstrim function has been added to 4.3 and runs quietly when the device is idle (you can also run the Lagfix app, but it requires root). As a case study, it totally transformed the slow and pokey 1st gen Nexus 7 into a speedy beast.
cache cleaning -- Ideally, we'd have root and could occasionally delete the Dalvik cache as well as the regular data cache. Unfortunately we can't do the first, but we can still do the latter by booting into the bootloader (this post helped me figure it out) and then just running the "wipe cache" option. I suspect it's something that won't be frequently needed on the One, but I'm glad we have the option.
EDIT: based on your sig I'm guessing that second part about cache-cleaning was pitched way too low -- if so, sorry -- it's a bad habit of mine!
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The stock browser actually isn't bad - it feels just as fast as Chrome overall, and I like the "lab" UI on the stock browser a lot. And it seems to sync with the bookmarks from the google account too.
Stupid Verizon... guess we'll have to wait until root to delete them!
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For me, yes, the stock browser picked up the Chrome bookmarks. The interesting thing is that it didn't carry over the bookmark icons or labels. They're just blank, generic bookmarks for some reason. I have to guess which is which. Folder names translated over for some reason. Weird.
I used Dolphin for the longest time since I was caught up in the stigma that the stock browser sucks. I couldn't have been more wrong.
About 3 months ago I ditched Dolphin and started using the default browser in CM9, and loved it. Now all I use is the stock browser. It does its thing very well and never fusses about updates in the play store or routes traffic through China.
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Wow Eric, thanks for filling in the blanks. I definitely have to try it.
Here's the quick breakdown on my side:
fstrim -- The TRIM function in Android/Linux takes memory space that has been deleted, and informs the memory controller that it's available (it normally doesn't check until it tries to find writable space which eats up CPU time). The fstrim function has been added to 4.3 and runs quietly when the device is idle (you can also run the Lagfix app, but it requires root). As a case study, it totally transformed the slow and pokey 1st gen Nexus 7 into a speedy beast.
cache cleaning -- Ideally, we'd have root and could occasionally delete the Dalvik cache as well as the regular data cache. Unfortunately we can't do the first, but we can still do the latter by booting into the bootloader (this post helped me figure it out) and then just running the "wipe cache" option. I suspect it's something that won't be frequently needed on the One, but I'm glad we have the option.
EDIT: based on your sig I'm guessing that second part about cache-cleaning was pitched way too low -- if so, sorry -- it's a bad habit of mine!
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Oh no you're good Matt - being helpful and spreading useful info is never a bad habit I actually didn't think about this before, but yeah basically all phones are essentially running on small SSDs and TRIM support would be crucial to long-term performance.
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For me, yes, the stock browser picked up the Chrome bookmarks. The interesting thing is that it didn't carry over the bookmark icons or labels. They're just blank, generic bookmarks for some reason. I have to guess which is which. Folder names translated over for some reason. Weird.
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That's interesting, because the stock browser on mine showed the Chrome bookmarks perfectly, including everything from names and website icons to the folders.
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I used Dolphin for the longest time since I was caught up in the stigma that the stock browser sucks. I couldn't have been more wrong.
About 3 months ago I ditched Dolphin and started using the default browser in CM9, and loved it. Now all I use is the stock browser. It does its thing very well and never fusses about updates in the play store or routes traffic through China.
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Yep I was in the same boat. Thought stock browser must have been crap just because it's stock!
Anybody with any luck on this? I refuse to believe it's still impossible to delete these pesky verizon bookmarks even when we now have S-off...
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Anybody with any luck on this? I refuse to believe it's still impossible to delete these pesky verizon bookmarks even when we now have S-off...
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Think I did it. Didn't bother me till you pointed it out, thanks, sent me on another crusade! Try this: Go to system/app and rename PartnerBookmarksProvider.apk to PartnerBookmarksProvider.apk.bak and then data/data add .bak to com.android.providers.partnerbookmarks clear clear cache and reboot.
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Think I did it. Didn't bother me till you pointed it out, thanks, sent me on another crusade! Try this: Go to system/app and rename PartnerBookmarksProvider.apk to PartnerBookmarksProvider.apk.bak and then data/data add .bak to com.android.providers.partnerbookmarks clear clear cache and reboot.
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Haha well I am glad to help! So I renamed both and wiped both davlik and the normal cache partition in TWRP. Just rebooted. The three bookmarks are still there... and I still can't delete or edit them in any way. I even went into the browser2.db and deleted all entries under the bookmarks table using SQLite Editor. Still no luck.
What did I miss?
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Haha well I am glad to help! So I renamed both and wiped both davlik and the normal cache partition in TWRP. Just rebooted. The three bookmarks are still there... and I still can't delete or edit them in any way. I even went into the browser2.db and deleted all entries under the bookmarks table using SQLite Editor. Still no luck.
What did I miss?
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Nothing. What I did was apparently allow them to be removed from Chrome and I assume other browsers. They must be hard coded in the stock. I've never used it. I bet the apk will have to be dismantled to get them gone.
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Nothing. What I did was apparently allow them to be removed from Chrome and I assume other browsers. They must be hard coded in the stock. I've never used it. I bet the apk will have to be dismantled to get them gone.
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Oh yeah I had them disabled in Chrome already. I was talking about the stock. You're probably right. Dammit Verizon...
So, AT&T has started rolling out the Lollipop (5.0.1) update. I have yet to receive it. Guys/gals, please start posting your findings if you have already updated.
its taking forever to download!!
Lost blocking mode. Now you have to make a list to block numbers versus just blocking all numbers not on my contacts.
Edit: It has been changed to "do not disturb mode"
I'd be curious to know if ES File Explorer can write to the SD card in this update, if anyone gets a chance to try it.
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I'd be curious to know if ES File Explorer can write to the SD card in this update, if anyone gets a chance to try it.
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Has the developer updated the app to write to SD card for Lollipop?
I know that when I was using ART runtime on kitkat, I had to wait a little while before booting in order to compile the apps. I guess they made ART more efficient because it no longer takes a lot of time to compile apps when rebooting. We also lost the ability to switch between dalvik and ART. I think its just ART now.
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Has the developer updated the app to write to SD card for Lollipop?
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Yes they have, I was just not certain if Samsung and AT&T had done anything to screw with this functionality.
I'm have thinking about buying this phone. Is the recent app button lag still there? Does lollipop feel smoother or about the same? Thanks
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I'd be curious to know if ES File Explorer can write to the SD card in this update, if anyone gets a chance to try it.
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i was able to write to my extsdcard via root explorer so does work, although I'm not sure about ES File Explorer
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I'm have thinking about buying this phone. Is the recent app button lag still there? Does lollipop feel smoother or about the same? Thanks
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i've only been using it for a few hours and so far it doesnt feel that much different (performance-wise). The recent app button is pretty quick, now. There's always going to be a bit of lag as it needs to pull in the recent apps list but i just tested it and it was only about 1 sec with about 5 apps listed.
I do know this . first couple problems I had to do 2 battery pulls . I had a lot of force closes issues . google launcher kept FCing . also , using recent apps button cause it to freeze up . After my battery pulls , no problems . Also , tested GPS and everything works still. Woohoo !
Just finished restarting.
Recent apps is definitely faster, though there just a bit of a lag. Haven't had a chance to really do anything else, though I really wasn't expecting much of a change under the hood for 5.0.
Now we can disable many apps that we cant on kk without a computer or a program like evernote...
I can't find smart unlock, only feature I wanted after leaving my Nexus 5..
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Yes, it works
Smart Lock is under Security and Trust Agents. No Trusted Face though
Thanks, guys, for checking that for me!
Ambient Display
I'm disappointed to find that they didn't include Ambient Display. Is there somewhere I'm not looking? That was one of the big reasons I wanted this update.
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I can't find smart unlock, only feature I wanted after leaving my Nexus 5..
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in SECURITY, scroll to the very bottom.
I found that there is a setting to turn KNOX on and off under security settings On my sm-n910a. The knox setting is off by default, and my phone is noticeably faster.
I did the update from Kit-Kat (With ART Enabled). And it was worlds faster. Specially opening my 1500+ picture gallery.
After that I did a system reset just to start fresh, But even without that it was way faster.
Haven't had any crashes or force closes. And it looks better. So far I'm very happy with the update.
Everything looks the same(even the Settings tab, location tabs....) beside feeling a bit snappier. No fc yet
Just wanted to put this out there for some original Note fans that might have been in the same situation I was in.
I looked at the Note 5 rumors and said i would never buy it , with no removeable battery , no sd card slot and no ir blaster. I was mad that Samsung wanted to copy the iphone "elegant" look. I was even more angry at all of the previous reviewers of the Note 3 and Note 4 who constantly complained about the fake leather look.(rat bastards are the reason the note looks like it does now , most note owners I know loved the original note looks) . BUT when I went looking at the other phones out , HTC , Moto X , Sony and the like , none of them satisfied what I wanted in a phone. I am really addicted to the S pen , and use it regularly. ATT has a 14 day return policy , so I said screw it I will buy the Note 5 and give it a chance.
I am glad I did , I have only had it a few days and man , this is a nice piece of tech. I dont really care for the glass look , but what the phone does is crazy!! Fast charge really took care of the removeable battery problem(it charges insanely fast) Battery life has been great , after turning off the bloatware apps (which was simple enough with out using any app). I spoke with both ATT and the Samsung rep , who said if the battery isnt holding charge good after a year , it would be warrantied and replaced.
Next I purchased the 32gb model , but seem not not need gobs of space at this moment. I take lots of pictures for both work and play , I will just have to be more focused on getting the pictures of the phone than I was before with an added 64gb sd card. I have an otg cable that seeems to work just fine with most thumb drives , so I think I will be fine without the SD card slot.
The IR blaster , is a true loss , guess I will have to use my Note 12.2 for remote duties now.
That being said , I was worried about getting this phone , but as of now I completely love it , and most likely will keep it until the Note 6 comes out.
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Next I purchased the 32gb model , but seem not not need gobs of space at this moment. I take lots of pictures for both work and play , I will just have to be more focused on getting the pictures of the phone than I was before with an added 64gb sd card.
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I'd suggest you consider using google's new "photos" app. It will auto-upload all your photos to a private "cloud", which acts as a wonderful backup. There's an option with it that allows unlimited storage space (for free.) While that might not be as good as a huge sdcard, it also has many advantages (including the ability to access your photos from anything with a web browser without screwing around with sdcards and cables.)
I've changed phones twice in the past week and all my photos are still there and available on my phone - without cables, backups, sdcards, etc.
I think the biggest drawback with the google photo app (when being used on the note5) is that samsung doesn't tie into it with their own gallery app... so anything that's ONLY in the "cloud" won't show in the samsung gallery app.
garyd9 said:
I'd suggest you consider using google's new "photos" app. It will auto-upload all your photos to a private "cloud", which acts as a wonderful backup. There's an option with it that allows unlimited storage space (for free.) While that might not be as good as a huge sdcard, it also has many advantages (including the ability to access your photos from anything with a web browser without screwing around with sdcards and cables.)
I've changed phones twice in the past week and all my photos are still there and available on my phone - without cables, backups, sdcards, etc.
I think the biggest drawback with the google photo app (when being used on the note5) is that samsung doesn't tie into it with their own gallery app... so anything that's ONLY in the "cloud" won't show in the samsung gallery app.
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Thanks , will have to check it out. I have been a little tinfoil hat on the whole cloud thing , but looks like everything is going that way.
Also , the samsung smart switch mobile app ..... THAT WAS GREAT !!!
garyd9 said:
I'd suggest you consider using google's new "photos" app. It will auto-upload all your photos to a private "cloud", which acts as a wonderful backup. There's an option with it that allows unlimited storage space (for free.)
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Yes, but not at the original resolution. So it's not a way to save photos whose quality you care about.
Flickr, on the other hand, lets you cloud-sync 1 TB of photos in full resolution, for free.
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Yes, but not at the original resolution. So it's not a way to save photos whose quality you care about.
Flickr, on the other hand, lets you cloud-sync 1 TB of photos in full resolution, for free.
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They are at the original resolution. Google does recompress them, but it's pretty good.. I haven't noticed any artifacts from their recompression.
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They are at the original resolution.
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No, they're not. If you upload at original resolution, you only get 15GB free at Google (compared to 1TB at Flickr).
Just look it up. Look under "How much does it cost?", and click on "Learn more":
https://support.google.com/photos/answer/6193313?hl=en
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No, they're not. If you upload at original resolution, you only get 15GB free at Google (compared to 1TB at Flickr).
Just look it up. Look under "How much does it cost?", and click on "Learn more":
https://support.google.com/photos/answer/6193313?hl=en
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Go ahead and read it yourself. I'll wait for you. BTW, being this is the "note 5" forum, read it in context of the note 5. Remember that the max resolution of the note 5 camera is 16 megapixel.
Back from reading?
Good. Google photo's does NOT resize photo's that are 16 megapixel or smaller. They DO resize larger pictures to 16 megapixels. They also will probably recompress all images uploaded.
Have a nice day.
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Google photo's [sic] does NOT resize photo's [sic] that are 16 megapixel or smaller.
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No, that's not what Google says. "If the camera takes photos with 16 megapixels (MP) resolution or lower, most stored photos will essentially look the same using either storage option." (emphasis added).
If you're satisfied with "most" photos looking "essentially" the same, then I'm happy you've found a cloud option that meets your needs. But people who don't want to throw away some of their photos' detail should be warned--especially since there's an alternative free option without that drawback.
Wow.... um... if I really care about the photos, I take them with my dslr and upload to deviantArt. Phone photography is just for quick and fun stuff. After looking into it, both Google and Flickr seem fine.
I'm on the same boat with this phone, I have the Note 1, and Note 3 which I use now and the no root has me on the fence about getting it. I can live without custom roms , and custom recovery, but I don't know if I can live without rooting it, I need ad blocker and root explorer, but hey maybe we'll get lucky and get it soon.
RoloRacer on Lollipop'ed Note 3
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I am on my second Note 5 and am once again experiencing a faulty device. The first device had a faulty WiFi module. This second device has these weird smudges under the screen only visible in sunlight.
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My first device was also faulty. It had a bad BlueTooth madule where the BlueTooth signal was very very week. My current device is now perfect.
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I'm on the same boat with this phone, I have the Note 1, and Note 3 which I use now and the no root has me on the fence about getting it. I can live without custom roms , and custom recovery, but I don't know if I can live without rooting it, I need ad blocker and root explorer, but hey maybe we'll get lucky and get it soon.
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I'm with you, this phone is great except I am really missing ad blocker and root explorer. Hopefully we get this thing rooted soon. Also I was reading the note 5 will be one of the first phones to get Marshmallow.
Bootloader locked. Knox'ed up bigtime. The AT&T Note 3 I traded for the Note 5 NEVER got true root, and they blocked the "sorta" root we had with an update.
Don't want to trash anyone's hopes and dreams, but the reality of the situation is the AT&T variant is 99.9% guaranteed to NOT get rooted. So if that's what you need to make you happy, don't get the AT&T variant. If you get the AT&T variant, don't do it with a false hope it's going to get root at some point.
You can disable some of the bloat with Package Disabler Pro, and there are a couple of ad-blocking apps you can get outside of the Play Store. That's the best you're going to do.
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You can disable some of the bloat with Package Disabler Pro, and there are a couple of ad-blocking apps you can get outside of the Play Store. That's the best you're going to do.
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Semi-forced into a non-rooted phone for work, also at the same time my MDL firmware'd S4 started acting up, so went ahead and made the plunge. It's a cool phone, but similar to above, the initial shock is not having ad-away, root call blocker, and tasker/ti-backup, along with a few other minor issues. But, I knew going in the ATT was crazy locked down, but requiring Good Word/Good Access made it a non-issue anyway.
I've bought Package Disabler Pro, and am looking for a decent non-root call blocker solution (other than adding to contacts and assigning silent ringtone), as well as backup needs. TiBack of course is out, but I've been reading about one called Helium that does basic backing up without root. Tasker will run without root of course but you loose Secure Settings root actions ie toggling GPS, Airplane Mode, lock screen settings, etc .
Also, oddly enough this damn Good Work app can trigger non-compliance even if not rooted - still working that out but some apps will trigger a wipe even on a non-rooted phone - Chainfire's 500pics is such an app, a very cool wallpaper changer. Not sure if it's reading the app dev as Chainfire makes a lot of root apps, or if the app itself might have some root strings that aren't used but Good picks up on, or what - but it kinda sucks.
I wish there was an app list of apps known to cause issues with Good and their compliance rules - each time it triggers I have to uninstall and get a new key. Luckily out Good Admin is a good guy, he gave me several keys so I can experiment some this weekend with some apps I haven't installed yet. Tasker, I *think* will be ok as long as I don't install Secure Settings, or at least I hope so. I have a ton of Tasker work and it would really suck to not be able to use it anymore.
Another thing I'm missing is profiles, I've run CM for so long that I guess I though every rom had them, but touchwiz not so much. May have to loo at a non-root profile app if I can get Tasker going... of course without root it may not even be useful...
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Semi-forced into a non-rooted phone for work, also at the same time my MDL firmware'd S4 started acting up, so went ahead and made the plunge. It's a cool phone, but similar to above, the initial shock is not having ad-away, root call blocker, and tasker/ti-backup, along with a few other minor issues. But, I knew going in the ATT was crazy locked down, but requiring Good Word/Good Access made it a non-issue anyway.
I've bought Package Disabler Pro, and am looking for a decent non-root call blocker solution (other than adding to contacts and assigning silent ringtone), as well as backup needs. TiBack of course is out, but I've been reading about one called Helium that does basic backing up without root. Tasker will run without root of course but you loose Secure Settings root actions ie toggling GPS, Airplane Mode, lock screen settings, etc .
Also, oddly enough this damn Good Work app can trigger non-compliance even if not rooted - still working that out but some apps will trigger a wipe even on a non-rooted phone - Chainfire's 500pics is such an app, a very cool wallpaper changer. Not sure if it's reading the app dev as Chainfire makes a lot of root apps, or if the app itself might have some root strings that aren't used but Good picks up on, or what - but it kinda sucks.
I wish there was an app list of apps known to cause issues with Good and their compliance rules - each time it triggers I have to uninstall and get a new key. Luckily out Good Admin is a good guy, he gave me several keys so I can experiment some this weekend with some apps I haven't installed yet. Tasker, I *think* will be ok as long as I don't install Secure Settings, or at least I hope so. I have a ton of Tasker work and it would really suck to not be able to use it anymore.
Another thing I'm missing is profiles, I've run CM for so long that I guess I though every rom had them, but touchwiz not so much. May have to loo at a non-root profile app if I can get Tasker going... of course without root it may not even be useful...
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You got call blocker baked in the phone settings. What for do you need root call blocker. Power toggles works better for toggles.
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You got call blocker baked in the phone settings. What for do you need root call blocker. Power toggles works better for toggles.
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Actually yes I just found that soon after i posted, and have added numbers from my RCB backup. That was one nice thing about RCB, you could maintain lists, etc, schedules (not that I used schedules), etc. But baked in version should work fine for my purposes.
I'll look at power toggles - My situation is somewhat odd, in that my workspace is a protected data center with zero, and I mean zero cell service, gps signal, etc -so if you don't turn those off/go into airplane mode, etc it just eats up battery, so I have tasker profiles/task that autos detect when I'm arriving/leaving/etc - it's more complicated that as I'm aslo setting variables for other conditions/tasks that may fire based on location, etc. that but I won't bore anyone. Tasker made it easy, though .
Still on my first note 5 , no trouble at all.
For call blocking if you want an app I have had great luck with call control, huge blacklist that is community driven.
I have had no trouble disabling apps in the phone itself , including the kindle app. Didn't need to download an app to turn stuff off.
TouchWiz is pretty slick this time and really doesn't bother me at all. The themer that is built in works great and I am running a great dark theme. As far as rooting goes , I am 50/50. I gave up on it cause AT&T locks the phones down hard and partly because I really don't need a custom rom anymore. Most of the things I looked for in a rom are now on the phone stock. Even got the gear s2 to go with it and still get a days use out of battery, without any special apps or root.
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Actually yes I just found that soon after i posted, and have added numbers from my RCB backup. That was one nice thing about RCB, you could maintain lists, etc, schedules (not that I used schedules), etc. But baked in version should work fine for my purposes.
I'll look at power toggles - My situation is somewhat odd, in that my workspace is a protected data center with zero, and I mean zero cell service, gps signal, etc -so if you don't turn those off/go into airplane mode, etc it just eats up battery, so I have tasker profiles/task that autos detect when I'm arriving/leaving/etc - it's more complicated that as I'm aslo setting variables for other conditions/tasks that may fire based on location, etc. that but I won't bore anyone. Tasker made it easy, though .
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So no issues wit Tasker, which is good, but without secure settings it does limit it's use, ie no GPS, no Input Mode, No AP radios/mode, etc. Looking at AutoInput, but seems like GPS/Airplane Mode control is gone.. .