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[Q] Rooting and warranty

Hello all,
I have a friend that is wanting to uninstall the T-Mobile pre installed CRAPPS. Since the only way to do so is by rooting, he has questioned if rooting his GS2 will void his mfg warranty. Since I Sid not know and do not own a galaxy I figured I would ask here. Thanks in advanced.
-T
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Yes it does but if your friend messes up his phone and needs to send it to tmobile I recommend to flash stock on it via Odin and then send it in.

pyrocide said:
Hello all,
I have a friend that is wanting to uninstall the T-Mobile pre installed CRAPPS. Since the only way to do so is by rooting, he has questioned if rooting his GS2 will void his mfg warranty. Since I Sid not know and do not own a galaxy I figured I would ask here. Thanks in advanced.
-T
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Technically it does, and if Samsung finds out that you did root it, they have the right to not honor the warranty. However, it's relatively easy to keep them from finding out that you rooted it. The basic outline of how to do it is this:
1) Flash this in CWM.
2) Flash stock kernel in CWM.
3) Flash stock ROM in Odin.
The order is important as you should only flash ROMs (and not kernels) through Odin otherwise you will trip a flash counter that Samsung can see. The first link resets the counter if you have already flashed a kernel through Odin.

Rooting will void your warranty; however, as the previous poster said, you can "unroot" and tmobile/samsung wouldn't find out in case you need a warranty repair/replacement.

yoft1 said:
Technically it does, and if Samsung finds out that you did root it, they have the right to not honor the warranty. However, it's relatively easy to keep them from finding out that you rooted it. The basic outline of how to do it is this:
1) Flash this in CWM.
2) Flash stock kernel in CWM.
3) Flash stock ROM in Odin.
The order is important as you should only flash ROMs (and not kernels) through Odin otherwise you will trip a flash counter that Samsung can see. The first link resets the counter if you have already flashed a kernel through Odin.
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I was curious about the flash counter because I see that there is a flashable zip to reset it but I've flashed everything I can think of to this phone at least once and never made it say anything but no lol so thanks for the clarification :thumbup:
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yoft1 said:
Technically it does, and if Samsung finds out that you did root it, they have the right to not honor the warranty. However, it's relatively easy to keep them from finding out that you rooted it. The basic outline of how to do it is this:
1) Flash this in CWM.
2) Flash stock kernel in CWM.
3) Flash stock ROM in Odin.
The order is important as you should only flash ROMs (and not kernels) through Odin otherwise you will trip a flash counter that Samsung can see. The first link resets the counter if you have already flashed a kernel through Odin.
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The stock file you flash in Odin includes the kernel either way. I've never had it trip the flash counter.
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Towle said:
The stock file you flash in Odin includes the kernel either way. I've never had it trip the flash counter.
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As long as it's the stock official kernel it will not trip the counter

UNROOT sgh-t999v

i need to unroot my s3 for warranty purposes but i cannot find proper procedures for the the model sgh-t999v..
i have 2 questions,
1. can i just root a stock rom for sgh-t999 to my sgh-t999v?
2. anyone have the procedures to unroot my sgh-t999v
thanks

Flash a stock rooted Rom. T-Mobile one. That seems to be ok as long as you don't flash a T-Mobile radio.
Not sure if triangle away works on the Canadian version.
Maybe someone else has tried it.
All I had to do to return my last one was flash a stock rooted Rom.
I don't think they check the flash counter
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If the Rom has some T-Mobile bloat left on it get it off there.
Hide superuser in a folder
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Thanks, ill try it tonight
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Or you can download the actual fw for your device. You will have to register but its no big deal.
Www.sammobile.com/firmware
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WE WILL NEVER FORGET!!!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!​

I can see you have a Videotron Galaxy S3. They don't check the flash counter. Let's just say I know this "by experience". As long as it's just rooted and you don't have any custom ROM, you should be fine. But indeed if you can at least hide the SU app it would be a good thing.
You could also perform a factory reset in CWM prior to going to the store, as they will make you do it anyways (and you actually don't want them to see the CWM screen)prior to any exchange. It's company policy.

lightpsycho said:
I can see you have a Videotron Galaxy S3. They don't check the flash counter. Let's just say I know this "by experience". As long as it's just rooted and you don't have any custom ROM, you should be fine. But indeed if you can at least hide the SU app it would be a good thing.
You could also perform a factory reset in CWM prior to going to the store, as they will make you do it anyways (and you actually don't want them to see the CWM screen)prior to any exchange. It's company policy.
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It's still probably safer to just use Triangle Away to get rid of the flash counter

Triangle away? Please explain
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yukuansu said:
Triangle away? Please explain
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Heres everything to know about triangle away, it resets the flash counter...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
Jake

T-Mobile & SGH-T999V
Hi,
Can we use the T-Mobile stock recovery on SGH-T999V?

flyerspat said:
Hi,
Can we use the T-Mobile stock recovery on SGH-T999V?
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If your trying to go back to stock, just download the stock rom from sammobile, it has everything you need like stock recovery, and then just flash it via odin.

htc fan89 said:
If your trying to go back to stock, just download the stock rom from sammobile, it has everything you need like stock recovery, and then just flash it via odin.
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Hi,
The only downloads availables are the firmwares, does it include the stock recovery in it?

flyerspat said:
Hi,
The only downloads availables are the firmwares, does it include the stock recovery in it?
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Yes it should be the full fw which includes radio, recovery and more.
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Thanks!
I'll test it tonight, wouldn't look good to download a 700 mb file at work!

I tried a few firmwares, but for some reason they all said "unsupport dev_type" when trying to use odin to return to stock non root (from stock rooted) In the end, the easiest way to remove root was to just let Kies update my gs3 to Jelly Bean (sgh-t999v). Painless, no data loss, took about 30 minutes with the firmware download.
Good luck

You will likely also want to triangle away. I won't link because it's extremely dangerous software that requires you to read up on the risks.
But that will reset your custom flashes assuming you have some on your counter you can check easily by going into download mode.

i recently lost my stock rom backup.. deleted it off clockworkmod touch by accident, so i only have the cm10.1 nightly i was running when i deleted it.. now i'm assuming i will lose root if i flash the stock firmware through odin? is there another way to get my stock rom back without losing root (and cyanogenmod rom backups)?

hey guys im having trouble with triangle away on my sgh-t999v with the baseband version: T999VVLUFNF1
after I used triangle away and I go into download mode it says:
current binary: Samsung Official
System status: official
qualcomm secureboot:enable
Warranty Bit:1
Bootloader AP SWAEV: 2
Although the current binary and the system status have changed the warranty bit is still at 1
Please help!

There is no way (and never will be a way) to change the Warranty Bit. Sorry

DocHoliday77 said:
There is no way (and never will be a way) to change the Warranty Bit. Sorry
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I guess im screwed for warranty..I thought it might be cuz I have a custom kernal installed that triangle away didnt work..but thanks anyway and sorry about posting in multiple threads, im kinda new to this

No problem, thats why i mention it, so you know for the future.
Tecnically, with the warranty bit tripped, the warranty is void. However, i have seen a lot of posts where people sent it in anyway and their warranty was still honored. Its not a guarantee, but there is hope it can be used if needed. The good thing though, is you most likely will never need to use it anyway!

flash counter reset problem

I've been flashing some custom roms into my phone and i noticed my flash count is 1..
I really dont bug me but for the in case of situation, i want to reset my flash counter.
I used an app triangle away but it didnt work for my phone... which app or what should i do to reset the flash countrr??
Thanks

What Rom are you on? If you ever had official jelly bean installed, I think the bootloader has been updated to block triangle away.
I was able to reset my counter by Odining back to stock rooted ICS (it downgrades the bootloader too) and then running triangle away. Hope this helps.
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d3athsd00r said:
What Rom are you on? If you ever had official jelly bean installed, I think the bootloader has been updated to block triangle away.
I was able to reset my counter by Odining back to stock rooted ICS (it downgrades the bootloader too) and then running triangle away. Hope this helps.
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I've been using the official jellybean ROM and then changed to cm10. DO i need to unblock the bootloader?
If i downgrade the Rom, and erase the flash counter, anyway won't it's count goes up if i flash custom ROM again?
I'll try to unlock bootloader. Thank you

imjunpark said:
I've been using the official jellybean ROM and then changed to cm10. DO i need to unblock the bootloader?
If i downgrade the Rom, and erase the flash counter, anyway won't it's count goes up if i flash custom ROM again?
I'll try to unlock bootloader. Thank you
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From my understanding you need to run triangle away, reset to factory, and downgrade to ICS (and stock recovery first). Then reflash custom recovery. Do not use JB from Samsung. ONLY ICS. In theory this should prevent your flash counter from being tripped. I have not tried but everything I read seems to indicate that this is the way to go.

aybarrap1 said:
From my understanding you need to run triangle away, reset to factory, and downgrade to ICS (and stock recovery first). Then reflash custom recovery. Do not use JB from Samsung. ONLY ICS. In theory this should prevent your flash counter from being tripped. I have not tried but everything I read seems to indicate that this is the way to go.
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Yea that's exactly right. There are a couple background apps that spot the custom recovery. There is a huge discussion about it over in the tmo forum that dives real deep into all of this
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aybarrap1 said:
From my understanding you need to run triangle away, reset to factory, and downgrade to ICS (and stock recovery first). Then reflash custom recovery. Do not use JB from Samsung. ONLY ICS. In theory this should prevent your flash counter from being tripped. I have not tried but everything I read seems to indicate that this is the way to go.
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What you mean "do not use JB from samsung".. it means i can use custom rom with JB. right?

imjunpark said:
What you mean "do not use JB from samsung".. it means i can use custom rom with JB. right?
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He means don't install the OTA, Kies, or the pre rooted Odin version. Only install custom JB roms that come in zips.
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Reset counter with custom RoM?

Hi.
Is it possible to reset the counter flash and keep running on custom ROM and kernel ??
The aim is to keep the warranty.
Thanks
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ppn7 said:
Hi.
Is it possible to reset the counter flash and keep running on custom ROM and kernel ??
The aim is to keep the warranty.
Thanks
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Yes thats possible. However, Your warranty will still be considered void if they find a custom rom on your device...so I dont get it?
Youll need both 0 Binary count and a Stock rom.

Yes i know but if the can't see this like with a SDS they will probably not see the custom ROM because not be able to flash. Im afraid of bricked issue. I mean if i cannot flash anymore. It's better to have counter reset instead of having nothing.
So it's better for me to reset counter even if I'm with custom rom? Is there a tutorial in my case rom custom + custom kernel?
Thanks a lot
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Reset Counter Guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31801078&postcount=3

ppn7 said:
Yes i know but if the can't see this like with a SDS they will probably not see the custom ROM because not be able to flash. Im afraid of bricked issue. I mean if i cannot flash anymore. It's better to have counter reset instead of having nothing.
So it's better for me to reset counter even if I'm with custom rom? Is there a tutorial in my case rom custom + custom kernel?
Thanks a lot
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Two words. Triangle Away.
The tutorial is the same whether with stock/rooted or custom/rooted. The only difference is you'll need to check "reset on boot" with Triangle Away to keep the counter from reading 1.

Thanks guys.
I know for stock rom before send to warranty. But first i reset counter.
But if i do it before flash stock. I will have to do it again after flash stock Rom??
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ppn7 said:
Thanks guys.
I know for stock rom before send to warranty. But first i reset counter.
But if i do it before flash stock. I will have to do it again after flash stock Rom??
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Just uninstall Triangle Away AFTER you've reverted back to stock and unrooted and the counter should remain 0 and read official.
If you haven't had the phone that long, why not do a dry run from stock/unrooted to custom/rooted and then back to stock/rooted (with Triangle Away installed and doing its job of course) and see for yourself.

Thanks bro
I go step by step because im a newbie. I have already rooted and custom kernel rom. I'll read the thread of triangle away and try this.
But if i have some problem i can count on you and all the community ?
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ppn7 said:
Thanks bro
I go step by step because im a newbie. I have already rooted and custom kernel rom. I'll read the thread of triangle away and try this.
But if i have some problem i can count on you and all the community ?
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This is what this place is for.
Just keep mind the community also expects you to use the search function or learn from many existing tutorials here and the internet in general.
If you think you have a problem, chances are many other people have experienced the same and a thread may already exist.

I'll do my best to respect the rules and the community
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here is some possible ways
-Having custom kernel/recovery, still yo can reset counter but for that you need play store version of triangle away, which have option to reset counter at every boot. again to remember you need custom kernel which support this function. this will help you if your device brick in a way when no normal boot is possible (still i doubt any existing custom kernel offers it)
- If device still able to boot normally and you have custom kernel/recovery, you can flash stock kernel and recovery and after that you can reset counter.
-For stock kernel and recovery, you can reset triangle(needs root) and can uninstall triangle away. whenever you need to claim warranty just unroot it.
Last option is safest way who are worrying about warranty.
one more good thing is that, most common cause of brick is SDS, we already have fix for that, though unfortunately someone gets SDS, i have seen lots of cases when even presence of custom kernel/recovery, hardly bootloader can detect it b'coz of emmc read failure and warranty remains intact. in fact i have seen only one case of SDS where download mode showing flash binary count non zero, though i was not ready to believe it was SDS (history what i remember is, one guy have posted here, his GF have got device bricked and claim was rejected b'coz of raised flash counter, her device needed to replace mobo that's it. no further information was there and hard to believe it was SDS by just this much information)

dr.ketan said:
here is some possible ways
-Having custom kernel/recovery, still yo can reset counter but for that you need play store version of triangle away, which have option to reset counter at every boot. again to remember you need custom kernel which support this function. this will help you if your device brick in a way when no normal boot is possible (still i doubt any existing custom kernel offers it)
- If device still able to boot normally and you have custom kernel/recovery, you can flash stock kernel and recovery and after that you can reset counter.
-For stock kernel and recovery, you can reset triangle(needs root) and can uninstall triangle away. whenever you need to claim warranty just unroot it.
Last option is safest way who are worrying about warranty.
one more good thing is that, most common cause of brick is SDS, we already have fix for that, though unfortunately someone gets SDS, i have seen lots of cases when even presence of custom kernel/recovery, hardly bootloader can detect it b'coz of emmc read failure and warranty remains intact. in fact i have seen only one case of SDS where download mode showing flash binary count non zero, though i was not ready to believe it was SDS (history what i remember is, one guy have posted here, his GF have got device bricked and claim was rejected b'coz of raised flash counter, her device needed to replace mobo that's it. no further information was there and hard to believe it was SDS by just this much information)
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Thanks a lot for these details!
I use the perseus kernel andi don't know if he can use the auto reset counter with triangle away?
But if i understand what you said (sorry for my bad english speaking) almost all of the SDS will not avoid the warranty. If it's not a SDS I'm supposed to flash again with download mode?
Si should i try triangle away with perseus kernel?
Thanks again!
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Better ask on perseus forum if this option available, b'coz you have to purchase triangle away from market for that. Though it's welcome if you this way want to support developers.
Another your question possibility of Flashing in non sds case, that is really depends on types of brick you have. Though just flashing is not enough, you need to flash stock kernel and recovery as well you should have device working (booting) normally, bcoz triangle away needs normal booting device. So in case of brick I don't think you may get chance.
Simple advice
If you really worrying about flash counter and warranty, then keep stock maximum use root with reseting counter
Or
Let leave on luck and enjoy custom stuff.
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Thanks for your advice!
I'm waiting for android 4.2.2 stock which normally will increase the battery life or even let the same as 4.1.1 i.e about 7h screen on time with normal use.
I hope it will come quickly maybe this month?
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ppn7 said:
Thanks for your advice!
I'm waiting for android 4.2.2 stock which normally will increase the battery life or even let the same as 4.1.1 i.e about 7h screen on time with normal use.
I hope it will come quickly maybe this month?
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I wouldn't hold my breath- Samsung has been known to delay major firmware revisions unless it has to do with their homegrown software.

clearday said:
I wouldn't hold my breath- Samsung has been known to delay major firmware revisions unless it has to do with their homegrown software.
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What does it mean? That Samsung is known to be late wheb they announce a new firmware?
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ppn7 said:
What does it mean? That Samsung is known to be late wheb they announce a new firmware?
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Well, 4.2 has been around for awhile and Samsung is still stuck at 4.1.2

Yeah they sucks so...
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[Q] Flash a new version without lose Warrant

Hello everybody,
How i can flash a new firmware without lose my warant?
Has any tips for this?
I'm really sad by some versions not run certain games and i believe that can solved by flash an new firmware.
Thanks guys.

Flash any firmware from sammobile using odin. As long as you don't install cwm and root you will not lose warranty.

bongski55 said:
Flash any firmware from sammobile using odin. As long as you don't install cwm and root you will not lose warranty.
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if i flash cwm, i need use TriangleAway right?

Triangle away only resets binary count to 0. It does not change system status from custom to official. You will still lose warranty because of this. Furthermore, if you flash a rom with csc not belonging to original country you also lose warranty. Samsung service has a lot of ways to detect all of these. GOOD LUCK!
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bongski55 said:
Flash any firmware from sammobile using odin. As long as you don't install cwm and root you will not lose warranty.
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bongski55 said:
Triangle away only resets binary count to 0. It does not change system status from custom to official. You will still lose warranty because of this. Furthermore, if you flash a rom with csc not belonging to original country you also lose warranty. Samsung service has a lot of ways to detect all of these. GOOD LUCK!
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But, if i reset binary count and flash with odin a stock rom(my country and provider ) this is not solved?

Yes solved