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Not sure if they all work. Anyone got any recommendations of what I should (or shouldn't) use? Looking at amazon (I'm a prime member, free 2-day shipping). This is the one I'm look to use.
that one is only for sound. thats a 3.5mm to rca(red and white). you want a 3.5mm to rca(yellow red and white.). so you can use it for video out.
HERE'S the one i just ordered. its gonna arrive for me tomorrow, i can let you know how it works.
I got one on eBay for $2.50. I'll post my findings as well once I get the cable.
Awesome, thanks. Just bought the same one. Now I just got to find a half decent media player to go with it.
no problem. it was the same one they used in a review of the captivates video out which seemed to work really well. have you tried rockplayer for movies? i've found the captivates default video player works pretty good. and the music players pretty nice too.
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Awesome, thanks. Just bought the same one. Now I just got to find a half decent media player to go with it.
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Okay mine just arrived here. the build quality of the cables pretty good. its thick. but word of warning. the yellow cable isnt video. lol. for me, The Red Rca plug was for video and the white and yellow were for audio. other then that it works great. deifinitely worth 3.50 lol
I am gonna get this one to hook it up in my truck:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10831&cs_id=1083101&p_id=6229&seq=1&format=2
Don't know if you guys saw the announcement about the micro usb to HDMI cable:
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/07/29/galaxy-froyo-microusb-hdmi/
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/...l&subsubtype=data-cables-kits&tab=accFeatures
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no problem. it was the same one they used in a review of the captivates video out which seemed to work really well. have you tried rockplayer for movies? i've found the captivates default video player works pretty good. and the music players pretty nice too.
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Thanks for the review. As for video players, the default doesn't remember position (unless it's a setting I haven't found) and I just got rockbox, so haven't tried it too hard yet.
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Don't know if you guys saw the announcement about the micro usb to HDMI cable:
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/07/29/galaxy-froyo-microusb-hdmi/
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/...l&subsubtype=data-cables-kits&tab=accFeatures
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I saw those, but between the fact that they aren't out yet, $4 for the RCA cable is fine for a holdover, and I don't think we know what those cables will transmit. I know there are restrictions on what the other HDMI equipped phones can play through to the TV.
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Don't know if you guys saw the announcement about the micro usb to HDMI cable:
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/07/29/galaxy-froyo-microusb-hdmi/
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/...l&subsubtype=data-cables-kits&tab=accFeatures
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My head unit doesn't accept HDMI
Anyone know if there's a cable that will convert video it from the 3.5mm jack to a female ipod? A lot of newer workout machines have monitors, but they only have an ipod dock/cable.
Internet search ftw
Amazon has one. Can't link.
Edit: Looks unavailable but they exist somewhere.
amazon.com/gp/aw/d.html/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/190-1100774-6693342?a=B002SCZBIO
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Just got the following in from Amazon today and it works great! The colors match up too.. so yellow goes to yellow not the red to yellow as a bunch are having to do.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GGQ2ZU/ref=oss_product
Mine shipped from United Integral.
Can't be beat for 3 bux shipping included!!!
Thanks for the info!
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I have to wonder if the cable for the incredible will work with my phone. Mytouch. I have seen one for video composite and one for hdmi. Maybe if it fits someone could handle the software if needed.
Amp International Inc.
The mytouch doesnt have the hardware for video out, its not the fact of finding a cable, its the fact that the phone doesnt support it.
I suppose they abondoned that in favor of DLNA (UPnP). Of course the finest hotels are only now putting in composite video jacks. DLNA is a LONG LONG way in the future for the main stream.
Still, I did sit on the couch and streamed from my Glacier (via 802.11g) to a PS3 COMPONENT out to a 52" LCD. The picture was shockingly good. Had the occasional glitch, but that was as likely as not the LAN.
How do you set things up to stream from the my4g to the ps3?
Great DLNA Device
Just for those interested:
I bought a WDTV Live a little while back for about $65 on sale. Its an awesome little box, especially with the latest firmware update. (They are always developing firmwares improvements with added features and there is a sizable community of people running hacked firmwares)
Anyways, it runs all of my video files in Full 1080p (all of them that I use, but not every one that exists) and actually has some support for DVD menus for my rips. It does YouTube, Pandora, Flickr, MediaFly, pulls from my Central Axis (NAS), and most importantly to MT4G users, it does DLNA.
I'm actually going to buy a "WDTV Live PLUS" box which does everything that this one does but also handles Netflix (now) and Blockbuster On Demand (soon).
Here's a TV-out cable for those who don't have/use DLNA.MT4G TV-out Cable
XfooYen said:
Here's a TV-out cable for those who don't have/use DLNA.MT4G TV-out Cable
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Does anyone know if this does truly work
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Does anyone know if this does truly work
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Honestly, I don't know. The cable is HTC branded OEM product and is sold for the G2, Incredible, N1, and others. Amazon sells the cable for $17 and you could surely return it to them no problem. You could call HTC and ask about compatibility.
tv out
well i have a 52 inch flat screen tv,,with all sorts of connections on the back and side,,it also has a USB connection,,,,i hooked my phone right up to the tv,,and the tv actually see's my memory card,,,you can view your pics and videos < if the videos are formatted for the tv to see> and you can use the oem data cable that come with the phone.
Not trying to bring back from the dead, but have done much searching only to come up with mixed opinions. Does this phone have Video out capabilities via a component cable?
Hi Guys,
I have the one x, Optoma pk301, MHL adapter and the required HDMI cable. Got the connection all set up but I'm unable to get a display on the projector. Are there any settings in the phone that i have to change/switch on to display on an external screen?
Thanks
Mine worked right out of the box. I used a Galaxy SII adapter. As soon as i connected HDMI, charger and phone, it switched to landscape mode and the picture showed up on the tv.
As far as i am aware, there are no settings on the phone to enable/disable MHL.
Did you plug the USB to charge ? It says no power > no video
Im using this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Smart-Adapter-Galaxy-Mobile/dp/B005MR82GA
Its working now. Was displaying a red X before. Didn't do anything other than just unplug and re plug everything
Can you tell me if I play movie on my TV by mhl cable, does it shows external subtitles (.srt)? And, can hox play movie on TV with phone screen of during.
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Mine worked right out of the box. I used a Galaxy SII adapter. As soon as i connected HDMI, charger and phone, it switched to landscape mode and the picture showed up on the tv.
As far as i am aware, there are no settings on the phone to enable/disable MHL.
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cool! Is your tv full hd, and if so what res. do you get from the phone?
"Micro USB to HDMI® MHL Adapter - Black" - quick review
I just received the MHL adapter from MonoPrice, about $10 US:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8805&seq=1&format=2
The product description implies some phones can power the MHL adapter, with the One X you must supply power via a micro-USB charger. Be forewarned, the load may be a little higher than what some phone chargers can deliver; my EVO 4G charger would shut off after about 10 seconds, an old Nexus One charger worked fine.
Output is 1280x720 60Hz (should auto-adjust to the TV, don't have a PAL display here to confirm this). The Samsung HDTV was set to "Just Scan", meaning no scaling is done by the TV.
The resultant HDTV image is underscanned by about 35 pixels on each side, 20 pixels on top and bottom, resulting in a display area of 1210x680. I think this is a problem with the One X GPU drivers, and not the adapter because I doubt a simple device like this can do any scaling. At CES, I played with a few Transformer Primes running Shadowgun Multiplayer, mirrored to HDTVs at 1280x720, and there was no underscan, so this is likely not be a limitation of Tegra 3 GPU.
I got the red X once (displayed on the TV), afterwards it would not mirror the display to the TV until reset, so the connection handshaking is kinda finicky. I've been plugging the micro-USB power last, after the phone and the HDMI is connected and the phone is powered on. Sense should flip into landscape immediately, if not, something is wrong. If you power on after everything is connected, you should see the lock screen in portrait for a couple seconds, then it'll rotate. Sense works surprisingly well in landscape, I'm surprised that HTC didn't allow this mode without an MHL adapter connected.
There is a slight performance hit on the One X when display mirroring is active:
GLBenchmark 2.1.4, native display:
Egypt Standard: 48 fps
Pro Standard: 54
GLBenchmark 2.1.4, HDMI mirrored:
Egypt Standard: 42 fps
Pro Standard: 52 fps
If you want to demo a One X, play Shadowgun THD on a HDTV, it looks absolutely amazing. You are "playing blind" on a touchscreen, but once you get a feel for turning and shooting (right thumb), it's pretty easy. Ideally, this setup is screaming for a game controller, but I haven't come across a thread about this yet for the One X. Support for analog sticks has been in the OS since 3.1, so the keymapping utilities on the Market shouldn't be necessary, but I need to look into this further.
Note: the images were taken of the HDTV using a point-and-shoot and scaled to 720p, so you can see the degree of underscan (the unfiltered decimation is very visible in the fonts).
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cool! Is your tv full hd, and if so what res. do you get from the phone?
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The TV is full HD, the phone passes 720p through the adapter, looks like it's a direct mirror.
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Did you plug the USB to charge ? It says no power > no video
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Yeah, it doesnt work if you dont connect the power cable to the adapter.
And subtitles? Are they on the TV please?
Looking nice on the tv
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And subtitles? Are they on the TV please?
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Everything you see on the phone is mirrored on the TV. If you are watching a movie with subtitles on the phone, you will obviously see them on the TV.
My best experience so far watching 720p & 1080p has been with MX Player, but a lot of people also use Dice and Mobo.
That was not the case with my sgs and tv out and as far as I know with sgs2 tv out via mhl. It's mirroring everything but subtitles.
hi i have two days htc one x and have two hdmi cable to tv but same result no signal what i do wrong i use this one please helpme
I bought a MHL adapter from Mobilefun and I get the phone picture on a my PC monitor, with a little pixel loss as described by rasterX.
However I tried looking at a video I recorded with the HOX. I played the recording using the stock player and MX player.
In both cases, the playback is too fast on HDMI, it's like pushing a fast forward button.
With MX player I tried the different options (hardware/software): hardware is too fast, software is variable: complex pictures are too slow to display, less complex pictures are shown faster but since the display time changes according to the picture, the software playback is useless.
I tried two different PC monitors, one is Philips with a DVI-HDMI adapter, the other a DELL with a direct HDMI input, results are the same for both. I'm in a 50Hz country (France) if ever this can have a side effect...
Anyone has similar issues with MHL?
I tried my Samsung MHL adapter and it worked. My TV resolution is 1366x768.
When I connect all cables (inclusing power of course) I get portrait screen on my TV. As soon as I play movie or game, it goes landscape. When back to homescreen, it's portrait. No issues in Diceplayer or MX Player. Worked in HW and Software. Software mode allows to see subtitles on TV.
Sound only out of one channel
I only seem to be getting audio out of the left channel. I've tried 2 MHL adapters, and 2 different HDMI cables with 2 different TVs.
What's going on!?
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I only seem to be getting audio out of the left channel. I've tried 2 MHL adapters, and 2 different HDMI cables with 2 different TVs.
What's going on!?
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Can someone check to see if they are getting both channels please? I've also tried 3 different players.
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Can someone check to see if they are getting both channels please? I've also tried 3 different players.
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HI Jammy, I will test it.
What player are you using? MXPlayer or stock. what sort of files?
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Can someone check to see if they are getting both channels please? I've also tried 3 different players.
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I'm having the same problem, only left channel is working on TV over mhl adapter and if I plug headphones in one x 3.5 mm jack it is OK. I tried BS PLAYER and MX PLAYER.
Same symptom here!
hmm ... bug?
I'm trying to hook my S3 to my TV setup and am not having much fun with it. With the MHL I am getting stuttering and lagging. I have:
Samsung MHL adapter (from Infuse)
Samsung 11-to-5 pin converter
Samsung 1080p HDTV
BT keyboard & mouse, charger, HDMI, etc.
Stock ROM
The image quality is good for web and photo use but it lags and stutters. For games it makes some games nearly unplayable. I can see the phone's screen and everything is smooth but looking at HDTV I can see a lag maybe 0.5 seconds and much slower update rate, very obvious when you move the mouse. The TV shows [email protected], so it's not 1080p. I've done a LOT of searching online so maybe there's not anything new to say but I guess some people have been able to get [email protected] I guess one thing I didn't find, does ANYONE have smooth/lag-free 1080p with S3 MHL with any adapter?
I wonder if 1080i video plays at true 1080 resolution because I noticed when I play back 1080i videos I've taken with the phone itself the image quality and speed are much better. Maybe that's why Samsung decided on 1080i output rather than 720p? I came across a kernel for HTC One S (which is also a Qualcomm S4) that supposedly forces 720p... is there one for the S3?
Another issue is that audio only comes out HDMI, I want it to come out of headset to plug into AV system. I've seen a lot of people with the problem posting but no solutions? Probably isn't possible...
My third problem I actually found an issue to. That is removing the onscreen keyboard when using bluetooth keyboard and mouse. For that I used the app Null Keyboard: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wparam.nullkeyboard&hl=en
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...Another issue is that audio only comes out HDMI, I want it to come out of headset to plug into AV system. I've seen a lot of people with the problem posting but no solutions? Probably isn't possible...
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Thought I'd pipe in. I am also trying to figure out if this MHL adapter allows 1080p video as I want to use it for watching movies on a 60" 1080p plasma TV, as I don't want to purchase it if it doesn't and the forums are very confusing on whether it does or doesn't.
I wanted to say about your second problem. If you want to pipe the audio to a stereo/surround sound system, all you have to do is plug the TV audio output into the sound system's audio input. This is how I have my laptop to TV setup currently: laptop HDMI-> TV; TV audio out -> sound system.
Just be aware, some TV"s or sound systems might not have compatible audio connections. For example, in order to hook up my Vizio sound bar to my Panasonic Plasma, I had to use the fiber optic cable.... didn't have audio RCA audio out on my Panasonic.
Thought I would amend my previous statement. I was assuming that you wanted the sound that goes with the TV only... However, if you are just looking to have music on without turning on your TV, you can get a cheap miniplug-to-RCA adapter from Radioshack or the like. Should probably cost around $10 on any given day. I've been doing this with my sound system and portable phone/players for years.
buy a dual/quad core HDMI "thumbstick" for $100.
It'll be better then what you are trying to accomplish
Long story short I had a Note 4 (that took a dump and died) where I played music on VLC via the HDMI out into one of those eBay Chinese HDMI to Optical converters, from there into my car processor (Alpine PXA-H800). Worked like a charm, very clean sound.
To replace the dead Note 4 I got an S8, but this thing does not want to play nice (or I am being stupid). Will not work with an MHL cable (same as the cable I was using with the Note 4 but USB Type-C instead). From what I understand these phone do not play well with MHL cables (please correct me if I am wrong as this is the route I would like to go). I hear the SlimPort may work, but then I saw this Bluetooth Receiver that claims lossless data transfer (lossless is the ultimate goal). Also, since my processor has an optical input that will also be a requirement (optical output).
Has anyone has any experience with these devices and the connectivity that I am trying to achieve? Has anyone has been successful doing what I am trying to do? I have been without music in my car since my Note 4 died and it is getting old.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Hi, we are basically in the same situation. Sadly I think you are going to find it is rare for someone to have answers to any of this, as very few people are familiar with the systems/protocols we are trying to use and there is a lot of confusion or bad information out there.
I am currently using an Alpine PXA-H701 DSP/5.1 decoder and have experimented with various things trying to accomplish the same thing as you.
First, the Bluetooth receiver you mentioned is a LIE - that is false advertising. It doesn't even support APT-X, which my Sony Z Ultra phone and the Bose Bluetooth Receiver I recently installed do. Bluetooth simply cannot even support full-resolution stereo data, so it certainly cannot support 5.1 or lossless. Right now, the only wireless way to do that is (supposedly) Chromecast Audio or DLNA.
APT-X is the best sounding Bluetooth protocol currently offered, however it is not lossless - there is a penalty on frequency response, and I believe the upper frequencies are band-limited to around 16KHz if I read correctly somewhere. It sounds nice but still isn't CD quality. I can tell the difference vs. lossless when I tested my Chromecast.
Very much like you, I have used a Monoprice HDMI audio extractor and MHL cable successfully to pass through lossless bit-perfect audio including 5.1 (which is not lossless, but demonstrates passthrough ability, not downscaling or transcoding) via Kodi for Android. I would have liked to use MX Player but at the time they had removed AAC/5.1 audio decoding so there was no sound, but I now have the codex for it and will re-test.
Kodi can play music, videos, etc but the interface is not simple like VLC or MX Player.
Also, lossless FLAC files can be used wirelessly with the Chromecast Audio but you'll need a player that supports casting or BubbleUPnP, which now can transmit lossless FLAC to the Chromecast. However, it's a work-around for sending audio and when trying to play videos or YouTube; the lag is tremendous so it's not good for playing video on the device while casting audio. I currently do not have a media player that can cast so I used the BubbleUPnP module within Xposed Framework (had to root my phone) for music.
USB-DAC (w/ optical output) adapters would be ideal, too, but USB OTG in Android does not currently support charging while using an external USB-DAC/Optical adapter, so it will drain your battery down. So that's unfortunately not an option in current Android OS to the best of my knowledge.
To make matters worse, very few phones as you know support MHL/HDMI output, and even fewer APT-X. But to get real lossless via optical you can use any phone you want that has a hotspot feature if you use the Chromecast Audio and FLAC audio files, or WAV if they're lossless too. Otherwise we're stuck with phones/tablets that support MHL only since USB audio can't support charging.
Then another potential problem is that of discharging your phone's battery when using an MHL cable/adapter. I read here that when an MHL standard device is attached, the phone will charge. I haven't verified this.
So, from what I've found it comes down to this:
For WIRED lossless digital audio, will have to be MHL/HDMI, limited to very few phones/tablets with the feature. This assumes the device will be able to charge - so that's still an important question to answer. In this case video could also be support & synced pretty well to audio
For WIRELESS lossless digital audio, any Android device w/ hotspot ability can connect to a Chromecast Audio and BubbleUPnP will allow casting FLAC files from a media player like VLC or MX Player. You can also use Spotify and other supporting apps to cast digital audio to the Chromecast. Video will not be synced to audio, so that's out, unless you use Bluetooth for audio when playing videos on the device.
USB-out on Android is not currently the end-all solution until charging in host mode is supported
No lossless audio possible on Bluetooth (it's compressed by nature); any claims otherwise are false advertising
So, I'll have to try MHL w/ my HDMI extractor and some way to try to see if my Sony can charge while doing so. Otherwise, I'll have to use both Bluetooth (at the cost of reduced quality) for video files [due to sync issues] and cast to Chromecast Audio for lossless audio. I tested a tablet like the Nvidia Shield w/ separate HDMI out, and that's all I needed - the HDMI audio extractor only.
Your Samsung may need a better/different MHL cable, because I'm not familar with the S8 but I have seen that not all MHL cable work well as the OEM and also they're often not interchangeable.
Hope this helps!
Thanks a lot for the elaborate reply. I used to have the PXA-H701 and I loved it. When I had my Note 4 I was able to charge while playing, the charge was slow but it kept the phone from discharging while playing music but it would still discharge while using the GPS. I am going to give the MHL cable I listed above a try and see if it works, it does list the S8 after all. Worst case I'll return the cable and get me a used Note 4 as a music player and be done with this. Thanks again.
That's cool, as long as you have a way to do it that's great. I'll try my Z Ultra again tonight, but I have a simple cable and not a real MHL adapter. I think mine will drain therefore.
I'm trying to have an all-in-one media player with bit-perfect optical output using a phone and not installing a dedicated tablet, if possible.
It is ridiculous to have so many catch-22s and hassles in this day and age to just do this one basic function!
Glad I could contribute.
Fyi, my note 4 worked with the cable , not the adapter.
Update: well, you are lucky if your Samsung can charge with the cable and not a MHL device connected - the Sony Xperias apparently cannot, and similar for other brands of phone & tablets, it turns out.
After some research, it turns out that most devices with an MHL port will drain the battery because when not connected to an MHL-compliant device like a TV with the option (Example: Sony Bravia TV, MHL charge option) the charge/supply is limited and not sufficient - it's not full charge mode.
My work around I've found is what someone else described - using my MHL cable while also using my magnetic charge port & magnetic charge cable attached. Tested while playing a video in Kodi 16.1 - phone is now charging, no battery draining pop-up.
(I'm posting this in case someone else finds this thread and has similar problems)
I'll also try an MHL adapter "box" and see if that is compliant and can charge the phone.
Sound quality is great via HDMI/Toslink!