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Hi Arc Users,
Do you guys encounter low memory after long period of usage? It seems like the memory does not free up after using the phone for a long time. I mainly use the phone for FB, Camera and messaging.
When the phone hits like 50+MB ram or so it starts to slow down and if it goes lower than 40MB my home screen starts to lag and the app icons take a few secs to load every time i return to home screen. I'll usually reboot the phone but its quite a pain considering the boot timing for my phone is rather long, like close to 1 min.
What are the possible solutions? I've heard that advanced task killers are unnecessary for Gingerbread. If thats the case, how do I free up more memory or have better memory management for the Arc?
Am a first time android user, appreciate any advice from you guys
Thanks!
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Root is the solution. Delete apps and services which you do not use.
I haven't any problem either when free ram goes down to 30MB and i don't use a taskiller.
Just what are you doing when you run out of ram? Never did I run out of ram yet. Running ram hungry games will free up more what is needed as I experienced. When I return to homescreen, it takes a while (around 2 secs) because it will free up ram from the game, then load the homescreen launcher from start/scratch.
Same here but my Arc works fine, even with 30-40MB RAM, so it isn't a real problem.
But it would be nice from SE to make 400-450MB of the 512MB RAM available for the user.
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Flo95 said:
But it would be nice from SE to make 400-450MB of the 512MB RAM available for the user.
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What? That is a completely pointless excercise if you understand how ram is handled by the os.
You need to root and remove bloat, check ya settings etc to get better performance. I found letting things constantly access the network was a juice eater, I don't want fb to check every 4 seconds, I update it when I want to read it lol
I use a task manager, but only because I like to see what is running and using resources. I rarely actually kill any apps, just occasionally a few things I rarely use. Even then it fills the space with other stuff.
:edit: sorry flo95, that sounded a bit crappy, no bad attitude was intended.
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This is the solution...https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lim.android.automemman&feature=search_result
not a task killer... a memory manager that enhances googles memory management.
mariolouis said:
Just what are you doing when you run out of ram? Never did I run out of ram yet. Running ram hungry games will free up more what is needed as I experienced. When I return to homescreen, it takes a while (around 2 secs) because it will free up ram from the game, then load the homescreen launcher from start/scratch.
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I do not play games with my Arc. I just used facebook, MSN, Camera and messaging occasionally throughout the day. Medium usage.
It runs smoothly for several days but maybe after a week or two, the RAM starts to get low.
im_iceman said:
This is the solution...
not a task killer... a memory manager that enhances googles memory management.
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Thanks! Working so far... will monitor after a week or so.
Try a cache cleaner also will free up some space for ya
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I use battery guard as a task killer. It comes with a widget where you can see the available amount of ram.
I'm happy about it. Though a lot of people say a task killer doesn't help I have no negative experience using this one... and I never go below 130 ram.
I still think it does help to close tasks that otherwise keep running in the background... But I'm new on android so I could be wrong.
Hey guys
Have you tried this script
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111145
maybe this can help w/o having to install apps or task-killers. Should work on Xperia Arc but I don't guarantee it.
That script seems to do basically the same thing as auto memory manager.. (per my previous post..)..
PS.. I currently have mine set to aggressive.
hi guys...is it true that task killers/managers would decrease battery life or even slow down the system? i'm using advance task manager pro...i simply dun like to hv those apps running in the background (facebook,line,etc) so i kill them all the time...will this effect my phone's battery life and performance?
Close them and they will reopen, so you are using your CPU to reopen the apps. Just uninstall Facebook already, use the web version, they look the same. Better still, socialize with real people.
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Mach3.2 said:
Close them and they will reopen, so you are using your CPU to reopen the apps. Just uninstall Facebook already, use the web version, they look the same. Better still, socialize with real people.
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but the facebook app loads a bit faster...haha...so basically the task manager is not needed？
No. Uninstall it because it will actually make your system unstable. Android already is very efficient in it's memory usage so don't worry. It will kill it by itself if need be. I used to believe in then a lot until I learned the real truth and experienced the benefits myself. You'll be amazed how little it does.
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Ever since android evolved from running on phones with sub 128MB of ram, task killers have been unneeded, the LMK (low memory killer) has also got smarter about what it kills.
Unused ram is wasted ram (as afaik the phone cant turn of individual sections of ram, it's all on or off, and even then, the power required to refresh it to keep the data around is minimal compared to how much it costs to hit the flash and pull the apk into ram again).
The facebook app is junk, use a 3rd party one or turn sync off and live with the drainage.
nexicon said:
No. Uninstall it because it will actually make your system unstable. Android already is very efficient in it's memory usage so don't worry. It will kill it by itself if need be. I used to believe in then a lot until I learned the real truth and experienced the benefits myself. You'll be amazed how little it does.
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task killer will make the system unstable?didnt know tat...looks like i’ll uninstall my task manager...
veyka said:
Ever since android evolved from running on phones with sub 128MB of ram, task killers have been unneeded, the LMK (low memory killer) has also got smarter about what it kills.
Unused ram is wasted ram (as afaik the phone cant turn of individual sections of ram, it's all on or off, and even then, the power required to refresh it to keep the data around is minimal compared to how much it costs to hit the flash and pull the apk into ram again).
The facebook app is junk, use a 3rd party one or turn sync off and live with the drainage.
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actually my facebook app doesnt drain tat much battery compared to my chrome and temple run...haha
ace-user said:
actually my facebook app doesnt drain tat much battery compared to my chrome and temple run...haha
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Make sure to turn off "Enable tilt scrolling" in chrome's developer tools settings, at least until they fix the wakelock bug it causes
As far as temple run, well its a game!11!1
veyka said:
Make sure to turn off "Enable tilt scrolling" in chrome's developer tools settings, at least until they fix the wakelock bug it causes
As far as temple run, well its a game!11!1
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u mean enabling that setting will cause wakelock?
ace-user said:
actually my facebook app doesnt drain tat much battery compared to my chrome and temple run...haha
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More than you realize.
I use Friendcaster with notifications off.
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Zeinzu said:
More than you realize.
I use Friendcaster with notifications off.
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seriously?i see from my battery stats tat it only drains about 6% , tats not much right?or is it?=/
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u mean enabling that setting will cause wakelock?
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If enable tilt scrolling is turned on, chrome tends to hold a wake lock on the orientation sensor, causing wake locks.
And its turned on by default.
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I use memory usage app from twistbyte, any app running with priority 300 is running as a service in the background. Check the apps running in 300 and decide if you really need them....
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task killer is really pointless. Facebook app does take a lot of battery, so recommend using scope beta or friendcaster instead
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honestly, its become smoother and much responsive than in gingerbread
but the available RAM has also noticeably reduced, in fact, a LOT!
in 2.3, it was somewhere between 300-350M after average use (not boot up)
now, in 4.0, it can reach as low as 180M, usually 230M i think
please advise if sort of memory freeing app is necessary
thanks a lot
beveve said:
honestly, its become smoother and much responsive than in gingerbread
but the available RAM has also noticeably reduced, in fact, a LOT!
in 2.3, it was somewhere between 300-350M after average use (not boot up)
now, in 4.0, it can reach as low as 180M, usually 230M i think
please advise if sort of memory freeing app is necessary
thanks a lot
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I advice against task killers. You could install the init.d support and run some scripts to help optimize your resources.
beveve said:
honestly, its become smoother and much responsive than in gingerbread
but the available RAM has also noticeably reduced, in fact, a LOT!
in 2.3, it was somewhere between 300-350M after average use (not boot up)
now, in 4.0, it can reach as low as 180M, usually 230M i think
please advise if sort of memory freeing app is necessary
thanks a lot
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Sony did said ics took more ram than GB long time ago. You dont need to freeze any app, the system will automatically free up unused app ram once it requires more ram from current app
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Yep. This is typical of ICS. Do not worry. Enjoy the fluidity.
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thank u all comments have been helpful
no more concerns then:good:
Of course more ram is needed for smoother transitions and so on, once you notice the phone lagging and having most of its ram used then its a problem. GB is smooth for me right now knock on wood
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i've been on ICS for 5 days and checked pretty regularly. Only rebooted the phone once since i flashed it. This morning i have 360Mb in use...GB i seemed to always hover around 300Mb in use. So so far the ICS hit doesn't seem too large on my end.
There are about 20 odd apps i haven't reinstalled though since the flash; mostly games and a few things i ended up using less than i thought i would. I have 3 home screens stuffed full of widgets for data toggles, weather, music, etc. The main home screen being relatively empty, and the other just straight up app icons.
It swings a lot though. the ICS browser, with lots of windows running, will eat it all up...causing it to take a second or two for everything to pop up on the home screens when i quit out. This is my first android device, so i'm still learning the ins and outs...but i disabled every AT&T app i could, and they are no longer showing up in my process tree...Navigator used to eat 40Mb of memory despite me never once opening it..that'll do until i get around to digging deeper and removing them entirely.
I have been trying to figure out why the Note has so little of the 3 gb of ram available at any given time. After a fresh boot, I might have 1.3 - 1.5 available, but that quickly disappears.
I have frozen all unnecessary apps with Titanium Backup, yet after launching just a few apps, I'll be down to 300 mb or so. Looking at the active applications list in task manager, the apps listed are nowhere near to adding up to over a gb of ram.
Tablet seems to be performing fine, I'd just like to know where the ram is going and why. Especially when tablets with 2 gb of ram seem to have much more free at any given time.
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i am with you on this issue. would like to find out for my self as well! constantly having to clear ram.
youtube, gmail, and browers = 2.1 gb / 3 gb ...
what the heck?
i constantly have to go back and clear apps, this is such a let down because my htc one could load much more than this, and every1 knows, htc one is no where near the spec of note 2014..
I'm not rooted but I noticed the same thing with the ram, I thought rooting and freezing some Samsung apps, specially Knox stuff, would free up a lot of ram. I'm starting to think that it's not a big deal and Android frees up ram as needed before it starts to get laggy (of course it's not perfect). I think lag issues are somewhere else and not so much in freeing up more ram. Don't you feel anyway that your note is a lot faster after rooting and freezing those apps? As far as I know most rooted users feel that way...(?)
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I have rooted mine about two weeks ago then froze all sort of junk listed in here and some other I identified mysefl. Now my used ram remains around 500 clean and around 700-800 when I open few apps. So guys the secret is getting a lot of useless apps frozen especially knox stuff.
greyhulk said:
I have been trying to figure out why the Note has so little of the 3 gb of ram available at any given time. After a fresh boot, I might have 1.3 - 1.5 available, but that quickly disappears.
I have frozen all unnecessary apps with Titanium Backup, yet after launching just a few apps, I'll be down to 300 mb or so. Looking at the active applications list in task manager, the apps listed are nowhere near to adding up to over a gb of ram.
Tablet seems to be performing fine, I'd just like to know where the ram is going and why. Especially when tablets with 2 gb of ram seem to have much more free at any given time.
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Android is based on Linux. Android and Linux both run better when they use as much ram as possible. If you Google Android ram usage you can find a couple of interesting articles about this.
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nrage23 said:
Android is based on Linux. Android and Linux both run better when they use as much ram as possible. If you Google Android ram usage you can find a couple of interesting articles about this.
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Yup, stuff is kept in the RAM as much as possible to increase performance. As soon as an app requires more RAM than is available, the system moves apps from the RAM as required. Clearing the RAM only increases the time it takes to start an app next time.
I would be disappointed if its NOT beeing used...
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delanvital said:
Yup, stuff is kept in the RAM as much as possible to increase performance. As soon as an app requires more RAM than is available, the system moves apps from the RAM as required. Clearing the RAM only increases the time it takes to start an app next time.
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People are used to Windows needing free ram and do realize that Linux is a completely different animal altogether.
Here is the article for those that want to understand the ram usage.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
Okay, guys. Disclaimer: I'm an IT professional and the Mobility expert for my company. I know how the RAM is used and why. I'm just curious as to what is using it. Especially in comparison to the Nexus 10, which has 2/3 of the RAM and has approximately the same amount available at any given time.
I wasn't looking for assurance that this is how it's supposed to work. I'm curious as to what you guys think is actually filling it up. Since I have disabled most unnecessary processes and only run a few apps at any given time, I can't see why so little is free.
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... I'm curious as to what you guys think is actually filling it up. Since I have disabled most unnecessary processes and only run a few apps at any given time, I can't see why so little is free.
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The objective of good android RAM management is to keep RAM full of the the highest priority apps. This enables faster and smoother response. The apps that are in RAM on your device will be different than on someone else's device. If you are curious about how android decides what put in RAM and what to take out, do a google search on "android process lifecycle"
if you're concerned about ram usage go to dev settings and change the "Limit background processes" to something more you liking.
How much FREE memory do you guys have when in normal usage (with browser, Facebook, whatsapp, tapatalk open..)??
Here I usually get 200 free, so I constantly have to free memory (it goes from 200 to 450, but few minutes later, it will be the same thing).
Help, anyone??
I usually have 1.1 gb free with kakao, whatsapp and basic apps running in the background. I close Facebook as I leave it, Facebook is a big memory hog.
I have about 900-1.1 gb used
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Damn, 4-5 times my free memory!
I think I will reset the phone and reinstall everything again..
Any other hints??
artssa said:
Damn, 4-5 times my free memory!
I think I will reset the phone and reinstall everything again..
Any other hints??
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Look at what is running. It sound like something is running in the background that is sucking up the memory. If you do a reset and re-install of everything, before you find out what is causing the memory problem you may be right back to square one.
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Look at what is running. It sound like something is running in the background that is sucking up the memory. If you do a reset and re-install of everything, before you find out what is causing the memory problem you may be right back to square one.
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I agree with this, when your talking free "ram" as shown in the task manager , it is what is running at the time, not what is installed?
In my system i have not seen the "ram" ammount drop below about 350m ever.
Usually ranging between 200-400 free. Usually if I close the browser and clear my task manager, I can get higher. The thing is, why would you want all that unused? If your battery isn't being drained and your phone isn't lagging, you should be good to go.
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Hmm!!!!!
only 200 MB free??
I have 500-700 free everytime!!
well, even if it is only 10 MB free, you should not worry about it(its a smartphone), until it affects performance of battery life!
to check whats eating up your RAM, go to settings>>general tab>>apps>>running tab!
you can also go to battery settings to check the most power hungry apps!
or you can install DU Battery Saver!
PsykoGeek said:
I agree with this, when your talking free "ram" as shown in the task manager , it is what is running at the time, not what is installed?
In my system i have not seen the "ram" ammount drop below about 350m ever.
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PsykoGeek ram or memory is what I was talking about but that also includes the apps or software that is installed on the phone also If the underline problem is not found first, anyone can do a factory reset and re-install the app and there is a very high percentage that it will come back.
I would look at the app that I have downloaded and start to turn them off one by one and see which one could be the culprit. After you found one or two, see if you can live with out them.
High RAM usage is actually a good thing on Android unless you use a lot of emulators like I do. On PC, low RAM is good, but on here the more RAM that's used the better it is. Makes opening apps much faster. What would be killing the battery is an app keeping your device awake even when the screen is off.
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Neroga said:
High RAM usage is actually a good thing on Android unless you use a lot of emulators like I do. On PC, low RAM is good, but on here the more RAM that's used the better it is. Makes opening apps much faster. What would be killing the battery is an app keeping your device awake even when the screen is off.
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Let me first say my Ram is usually around 350. But now I have a question, how is low ram a good thing and I am not trying to start anything I just like to learn more about the Andriod OS. I have use Wndows OS for year and it was always, like you said, bad to have low ram. So what has Adroid done to reverse that?
Again just trying to understand.
With 7 apps open.
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