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[Q] terrible 4g signal (compared with Photon)

First, let me say that I love this phone. However, I used to get perfect 4g signal in my home with the Photon, and now the signal is touch and go at best. Anyone have the same issue or know of a fix (besides moving)?
Found this post that seems to have some proven methods for samsung 4g (and 3g) signal and speed boosting!!

i can believe it. motorolas are usually the best when it comes to reception. I know on the EVO there was a way to make it more receptive to 4G signals and it worked great..but im not sure about samsungs though.

Read that as well. Photon signals were tops. Photon got signals where no other phone would even dream of trying to pick one up.
That said I am coming from the Evo, so the whole Galaxy thing is new to me..

I get the exact same signal as my photon. I was doubtful at first but I am actually surprised I get 4g in my room. I don't get it with the evo3d. Photon got it and now sgs2 gets it too.
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nkd said:
I get the exact same signal as my photon. I was doubtful at first but I am actually surprised I get 4g in my room. I don't get it with the evo3d. Photon got it and now sgs2 gets it too.
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Hello,
So, interm of signal and receiption, Photon 4g and GS2 are about the same?

nkd said:
I get the exact same signal as my photon. I was doubtful at first but I am actually surprised I get 4g in my room. I don't get it with the evo3d. Photon got it and now sgs2 gets it too.
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May be this depends on how strong the signal is. I know my EVO 4G had way better signal than the 3d that I dumped. I have the Photon, and if the signal is great I am coming aboard. The problem is there's no set measurement of how much more or less signal this phone has over the Photon or not. Also hows the regular 3g signal compared to the Photon? I like the fact that there is suppose to be support for the next rev B or 1xdo A signal. This means I can hold the damn phone for a more than a year if I choose to.

I'm a total noob or something cause I can't seem to find [irl.MSL] according to the thread. Little help please?

A reviewer did 'study' of 4G signal strength-reception andnfpund the Photon with the best reception of any Sprint phone.

JBNAquatics said:
I'm a total noob or something cause I can't seem to find [irl.MSL] according to the thread. Little help please?
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Don't think it's there, either... But call 611 and they'll tell you immediately. Can confirm the fix works, at least for boosting signal. Speed seems unchanged, but fine... About 4mbps.

Is it just me? (LTE GNex, terrible data.)

My Galaxy Nexus has the most unreliable, horrible, inconsistent data connection I have ever used on a phone.
I go from 4-->3--> No Gs all day long. I'm in Houston, which has a fantastic LTE network (when I'm using a different phone....)
I'm currently on CM9 with 4.0.3 leaked radios, the performance has been bad through stock as well though. Maybe I'll go back to stock and try it again or something.
Should I use the 4.0.2 radios again?
Has anyone else felt the same way?
Thanks.

I think you may be the first one to bring this up
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In Charlotte,NC my phone has been nothing but outstanding. The only place I go to 3G is at my desk in the middle of a massive building with shielding. It's just awesome. 4 Bars 4G at my house down in South Carolina too.

I actually have had no such issue with stock or CM9. I'm in Dallas but live on the edge of the 4G area and my workplace has the amazing ability to shield LTE signal so I'm switching to 3G twice a day.

Is_907 said:
I actually have had no such issue with stock or CM9. I'm in Dallas but live on the edge of the 4G area and my workplace has the amazing ability to shield LTE signal so I'm switching to 3G twice a day.
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I'd love for it to just be verizon having problems here.
I'm not so sure that's the case though.
Just flashed a different rom, I guess i'll try the 4.0.2 radio again.

get off the leaked radios and go back to stock. goodness...

aohus said:
get off the leaked radios and go back to stock. goodness...
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I did that. It seems to be a bit better. Could be placebo though
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eallan said:
My Galaxy Nexus has the most unreliable, horrible, inconsistent data connection I have ever used on a phone.
I go from 4-->3--> No Gs all day long. I'm in Houston, which has a fantastic LTE network (when I'm using a different phone....)
I'm currently on CM9 with 4.0.3 leaked radios, the performance has been bad through stock as well though. Maybe I'll go back to stock and try it again or something.
Should I use the 4.0.2 radios again?
Has anyone else felt the same way?
Thanks.
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My experience is exactly the same. My Thunderbolt always had a solid, reliable and fast 4G connection in the same locations. My Galaxy Nexus is just like yours: "4-->3--> No Gs all day long". I'm on 3G at least 50% of the time. That never happened on the Thunderbolt.
I've tried the 4.0.3 radio too and it didn't help. It was no better and no worse for me.

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My experience is exactly the same. My Thunderbolt always had a solid, reliable and fast 4G connection in the same locations. My Galaxy Nexus is just like yours: "4-->3--> No Gs all day long". I'm on 3G at least 50% of the time. That never happened on the Thunderbolt.
I've tried the 4.0.3 radio too and it didn't help. It was no better and no worse for me.
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I'm glad I'm not alone, I remember reading something about verizon's authentication servers having issues, hopefully it's something on their end they're fixing. Maybe the "real" update will help us out.

eallan said:
I'm glad I'm not alone,
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You are not alone. Here is some stuff I collected from other threads:
Verizon claims Galaxy Nexus LTE signal is fine, update still coming to change meter
http://androidcommunity.com/verizon...update-still-coming-to-change-meter-20111221/
What do you guys think? Is there still a problem with the Galaxy Nexus and LTE. I personally think there is some sort of issue that will still probably be addressed in the update and Verizon just isn’t saying so. Here is a quick video I made showing my Galaxy Nexus stuck on 3G sitting next to my XYBOARD 8.2″ tablet with 4G LTE. The XyBoard constantly has not only more bars, but a better and faster connection. You tell me?
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Missed calls, text that wont send, 6 hour battery life… looks like i had better return the Nexus while i still can. Its a shame, i like the phone, i just wish i could make calls with it.
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I have noticed drops on the data side in places where i have a friend sitting next to me with full 3g signal on an incredible 2. My wifes nexus has dropped calls at least 15 times since she got it and data has been the same as mine
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Aaron Osler
My phone has serious call dropping/connection loss. I had the tech at my local Verizon store compare it to his Nexus which also had weak signal strength (about -96db). We also compared signal to other phones in the store and found the other phones to have around -84db which is much much better. That spread is the difference between barely hanging on to 1 bar and a solid 3 bars on my Nexus. I don’t think Verizon is being honest because my experience is that the signal is weaker on the Nexus, not just looking at the bars. I am also getting sudden disconnects going from any number of bars to dead instantly. Dropping calls is completely unacceptable. I can understand problems with the cutting edge 4G signal, but the phone call function is the same thing they have done for years. Oh, and don’t forget it’s A PHONE. I have until Jan 15th to return the phone so if they don’t have my phone working 100% of the time like all of my previous phones I will be returning it and reactivating my Envy3. My phone reports 10% time without signal. Cell Standby reports 10% of battery usage. I didn’t sign up for being tethered to a charger all day just to keep my phone from diving into cold brick mode while I sit at work less than 1/4 mile from the cell tower.
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C Dedi
As a current owner of all 3 of Verizons top tier Android phones (Razr / Rezound / G-Nexus), I can easily state that there exists a radio performance gap between two of my devices compared to the 3rd. My Razr & Rezound pull solid bar(s) status regularly, my G-Nexus on the other hand is much more temperamental with its signal strength. Of all 3 devices, the Rezound displays the best signal the most often (haven’t been disappointed yet), with the Razr usually pulling a close second. As an overall performer, I have to give it to the Rezound, even if its not my favorite of the three. Now listing them by personal preference (general feel), it goes something like this: Razr – G-Nexus – Rezound. The Rezound would score higher, if it didn’t ’feel’ like so many other HTC phones I’ve owned in the past.
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Is anyone actually looking at their signal strength reading in Settings/about phone/Signal ? I have compared my Nexus against my wife’s Samsung regular Galaxy , my original Droid, and even a 3 + year old laptop built in Verizon air card 3g signal and the Nexus has a noticeable worse signal reception(no 4G in my area yet). When the other devices are showing say -74-75dbm my Nexus is only receiving -93-100dbm. That is NOT a software fix issue. I am on my second Nexus after Verizon Tier2 techsupport did a signal survey in my area and confirmed a good 3G signal and had me exchange my phone. Same crappy reception numbers and I frequently get a Network Problem Check your internet connection message while using apps. I don’t see a software fix helping and will likely be exchanging my phone for a Rezound or returning alltogether and waiting it out.
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LT_Blondey1492
I’m a Samsung galaxy nexus user. I have had a problem with the signal of this phone. It has been a problem since I started using the phone. I’m in a 3G area. You would think since it’s a 3G and 4g phone. It should still work. I went to Verizon’s store once already, all they did was chAnge the sim card. That didn’t change the signal none. It worked when we were there. I think it’s funny how my husbands 4g droid bionic works while the Samsung galaxy nexus doesn’t. They are both 4g phones and the verizon helper said we didnt have 4g area where i lived. Like I said its funny how his 4g is able to work still. I really like the Samsung galaxy nexus phone but I need service. It didn’t even work at the Walmart I go to either. The only time it actually gave me signal was when I was in the verizon store. Why wouldn’t it work there it’s their phone. All their phones will work there, but once you leave they won’t work anymore.
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Tloomos
There’s more going on than just a dfferent representation of signal strength. I’ve run dozens of tests with my Verizon Galaxy Nexus side-by-side with a Verizon HTC Rezound and the Rezound blows the Nexus away every time. I expected the Rezound to perform better on tests like what Vellamo puts it through since the specs on the Rezound are a bit better, but I really wasn’t expecting much difference on the speedtest.net results. The Nexus consistently achieves half the bandwidth of the Rezound.
The more I use the Nexus, the more I like it, but this connection/performance issue doesn’t sit well with me. I’m not sure why Verizon would hide it if they thought that the update was going to improve actual performance and not just the bars, but I’m waiting and hoping. I have until Jan 15 to return it and pick up the Rezound instead. If they can address the connection issue before then, I’ll gladly stick with it.
And for what it’s worth, I would prefer that the bars be more accurate rather than giving me an inflated perception of my signal strength. As long as I know how to interpret the number of bars I have and the connectivity and performance is on par with other comparable devices, I really don’t care if their device shows 4 bars when mine only shows 1.
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Is it just me? (LTE GNex, terrible data.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440307
My Galaxy Nexus has the most unreliable, horrible, inconsistent data connection I have ever used on a phone.
I go from 4-->3--> No Gs all day long. I'm in Houston, which has a fantastic LTE network (when I'm using a different phone....)
I'm currently on CM9 with 4.0.3 leaked radios, the performance has been bad through stock as well though. Maybe I'll go back to stock and try it again or something.
Should I use the 4.0.2 radios again?
Has anyone else felt the same way?
Thanks.
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Dreaded signal issues and my in depth 3g testing. Is it hardware?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441187
Thanks for posting this. I definitely think there is more going on here with the Verizon GNex's signal than just the way it is reported. It's not just 3G either. I had 2 Rezounds before I got my Galaxy Nexus, and actually have had two Galaxy Nexii. I am certain I got much faster 4G speeds, 3G speeds, and a stronger signal on the Rezounds than either Galaxy Nexus.
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I absolutely loved this phone also. but was VERY dissapointed after getting it home, it had a very weak signal and was dropping cals, something that ive never experienced with verizon. me and my wife have the razrs so i was able to do a side by side signal comparison here in dallas. my rersults were more dramatic than yours (OP), both razr's had about -85db and the GN was -104 in 4g. needless to say it was returned.
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New Leaked Radios CDMA, LTE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1403133
...had more dropped calls with this phone than any other I have ever had on vzw.
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The VZW Galaxy Nexus has signal issues. The constant bouncing from 4G to 3G to nothing and back is so annoying I have to just leave 4G off. I'm hoping it is an issue that can be addressed with a radio update at some point.

Raibyn said:
The VZW Galaxy Nexus has signal issues. The constant bouncing from 4G to 3G to nothing and back is so annoying I have to just leave 4G off. I'm hoping it is an issue that can be addressed with a radio update at some point.
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Agreed, here's to hoping.

same here
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Raibyn said:
The VZW Galaxy Nexus has signal issues. The constant bouncing from 4G to 3G to nothing and back is so annoying I have to just leave 4G off. I'm hoping it is an issue that can be addressed with a radio update at some point.
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happens to me all day.
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I flashed the 4.0.3 radios a week or two back and I noticed it being worse on my phone. Is it safe to just downgrade radios by flashing them?
Also where are the links for the 4.0.1 and 4.0.2 radios? I was on 4.0.1 radios when I first rooted and it worked fine. But when I flashed 4.0.3, then I started noticing issues :/

I bought my Galaxy Nexus in the Houston area over the holiday while staying with family. I had a very reliable 4G connection, even in the outskirts. My mother's Bionic was constantly bouncing between 3G and 4G, though. Out here in Los Angeles I get a full 4 bars of 4G and average above 20,000kbps.

I have the signal dropping/switching issues some days, some days not. It seems pretty split personality to me....same places, different times, different behaviors.

Mine works fine.
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xXJay_RXx said:
I flashed the 4.0.3 radios a week or two back and I noticed it being worse on my phone. Is it safe to just downgrade radios by flashing them?
Also where are the links for the 4.0.1 and 4.0.2 radios? I was on 4.0.1 radios when I first rooted and it worked fine. But when I flashed 4.0.3, then I started noticing issues :/
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I flashed back to 4.0.2 with no problems.

Mine is working fine here.
The phone itself DOES have issues when the switchover MUST occur.....I have 4G all day until I walk into my kids school. Old concrete block building, etc.....drops down to 3G everytime. BUT on the Nexus it takes a while.....Ill have 30 seconds or so sometimes without any signal while it locks back onto 3G. I *think* that can be fixed via firmware/software (since I believe lots of other phones have had similar handover issues)
The biggest issues with 4G seem to be if you are in a fringe area where it can kinda get 4G but not great 4G. You arent in a fringe area though, so Im not quite sure.....try forcing it to CDMA only and see if the radio stays connected reliably. I know its not LTE, but its just a troubleshooting step. A friend of mine has "reception" handover issues on his Bionic, set it to CDMA only and hasnt had one issue for over a week. its not a fix, but it at least makes the phone useable.......or could signify some bigger issues with your phone if you still have trouble with CDMA only.

The real reason behind pathetic weak Samsung signal

It's because it's SAMSUNG PEOPLE.
No one will admit if anyone has any experience with any Samsung device they should know compare an HTC or iphone or moto photon signal to any SPRINT SAMSUNG PHONE ITS NOT SPRINT.
It's the Samsung software or hardware that's been glitched since day one since the first epic
They all have weak signal u can compare a photon which is Motorola to this galaxy nexus
Galaxy s2, galaxy s3 any Samsung, WEAK SIGNAL PHONES, and not one person realizes this with comparing the experience of device to Device on the same network
. How can u get 5 constant bars on a photon or 2 or 3 on HTC evo or sprint I phone in the same area, but always 1 bar on Samsung phones All on the same network. ITS SAMSUNG SKIMPIN OUT ON THERE BUILD QUALITY whether hardware or software related, it pisses me off they persistently ROLL OUT brand new Devices all year and waist good phones cause they can't build a stronger signal phone.
So forget about complaining about signal issues it won't change until they figure the real reason out
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I feel sorry for you that you have to use CDMA version of Samsung, but from all the GSM Galaxy phones in my sig, I never had signal problems except for the Vibrant GPS.

lojak29 said:
It's because it's SAMSUNG PEOPLE.
No one will admit if anyone has any experience with any Samsung device they should know compare an HTC or iphone or moto photon signal to any SPRINT SAMSUNG PHONE ITS NOT SPRINT.
It's the Samsung software or hardware that's been glitched since day one since the first epic
They all have weak signal u can compare a photon which is Motorola to this galaxy nexus
Galaxy s2, galaxy s3 any Samsung, WEAK SIGNAL PHONES, and not one person realizes this with comparing the experience of device to Device on the same network
. How can u get 5 constant bars on a photon or 2 or 3 on HTC evo or sprint I phone in the same area, but always 1 bar on Samsung phones All on the same network. ITS SAMSUNG SKIMPIN OUT ON THERE BUILD QUALITY whether hardware or software related, it pisses me off they persistently ROLL OUT brand new Devices all year and waist good phones cause they can't build a stronger signal phone.
So forget about complaining about signal issues it won't change until they figure the real reason out
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or you could thank them when you dont develop tumors when you get older by using the lower strength radios and such

eksasol said:
I feel sorry for you that you have to use CDMA version of Samsung, but from all the GSM Galaxy phones in my sig, I never had signal problems except for the Vibrant GPS.
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Same here, I have good signal all the time (even when my country have ****ty networks, I'm always on full signal).

My signal has been rock solid everywhere I have been for the last 7 months. :good:

Samsung can't do anything right.
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The writing in the OP is an absolute trainwreck.

It's Sprint. Sprint sucks. No problems here on VZW CDMA, even w/o having the JB radios.

My friend has the Sprint iPhone (the forbidden device) and it's super slow even when maxed.
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lojak29 said:
It's because it's SAMSUNG PEOPLE.
No one will admit if anyone has any experience with any Samsung device they should know compare an HTC or iphone or moto photon signal to any SPRINT SAMSUNG PHONE ITS NOT SPRINT.
It's the Samsung software or hardware that's been glitched since day one since the first epic
They all have weak signal u can compare a photon which is Motorola to this galaxy nexus
Galaxy s2, galaxy s3 any Samsung, WEAK SIGNAL PHONES, and not one person realizes this with comparing the experience of device to Device on the same network
. How can u get 5 constant bars on a photon or 2 or 3 on HTC evo or sprint I phone in the same area, but always 1 bar on Samsung phones All on the same network. ITS SAMSUNG SKIMPIN OUT ON THERE BUILD QUALITY whether hardware or software related, it pisses me off they persistently ROLL OUT brand new Devices all year and waist good phones cause they can't build a stronger signal phone.
So forget about complaining about signal issues it won't change until they figure the real reason out
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I also have to disagree with this. My GSM Nexus on T-Mobile has been rock solid. GPS lock in about 3 to 5 seconds and never a drop call and data speed has been great. We all know the first T-959 Vibrants had GPS issues but I sent mine in and Samsung fixed it. I wonder if it has to do with location? Here in Chicago my friends who are still on Sprint always complain about dropped calls and loss of network. And they are all using a mix of phones from different mafs.

A lot of it also is how the phone handles the signal display. Some phones display a higher signal then others as like a placebo. 5 bars on a moto RAZR and 3 on my gnex and mine still wins in speed tests.
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enik_fox said:
A lot of it also is how the phone handles the signal display. Some phones display a higher signal then others as like a placebo. 5 bars on a moto RAZR and 3 on my gnex and mine still wins in speed tests.
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Yea, do the bars really mean anything? I have had 8 Mbps download speed on full bars and 9 Mbps on 0 or 1 bar of signal and still no issues with calls.

mgerard said:
Yea, do the bars really mean anything? I have had 8 Mbps download speed on full bars and 9 Mbps on 0 or 1 bar of signal and still no issues with calls.
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They don't. You could have 5 bars and 500k people on the same tower as you and you'll get better service with 1 bar and 50k people on the tower.
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I disagree. A friend of mine on the same GSM network has a HTC Desire Z, and I *consistently* get better signal than him.

I have the VZW GNex and I have no issues.
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I Am Marino said:
I have the VZW GNex and I have no issues.
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i have a huge issue. the nex wont hold 4g in my house. period. drops to 3g all the time. i have a thunderbolt that got constant 4g (strong enough to tether with) in a known verizon dead zone. you explain that

I figured by now that people, especially those who start threads complaining about signal would know better then to base it off of bars!!!!!!!
Thanks for your informative well constructed break down of why Samsung sucks because another phone showed more bars.
Thanks to you research I will never buy another Samsung device again. You are my hero :silly:

I Am Marino said:
I have the VZW GNex and I have no issues.
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Same here. After owning a Thunderbolt and Bionic I'm easy to please.
Every phone I've owned has had this sort of thread. Show me the perfect phone on any OS, it doesn't exist. My perfect is your garbage, end of story.
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lojak29 said:
It's because it's SAMSUNG PEOPLE.
No one will admit if anyone has any experience with any Samsung device they should know compare an HTC or iphone or moto photon signal to any SPRINT SAMSUNG PHONE ITS NOT SPRINT.
It's the Samsung software or hardware that's been glitched since day one since the first epic
They all have weak signal u can compare a photon which is Motorola to this galaxy nexus
Galaxy s2, galaxy s3 any Samsung, WEAK SIGNAL PHONES, and not one person realizes this with comparing the experience of device to Device on the same network
. How can u get 5 constant bars on a photon or 2 or 3 on HTC evo or sprint I phone in the same area, but always 1 bar on Samsung phones All on the same network. ITS SAMSUNG SKIMPIN OUT ON THERE BUILD QUALITY whether hardware or software related, it pisses me off they persistently ROLL OUT brand new Devices all year and waist good phones cause they can't build a stronger signal phone.
So forget about complaining about signal issues it won't change until they figure the real reason out
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English, son! learn it!

Well, we needed a good troll thread this week.
2/10 would read again.

How is your LTE reception?

In June I "upgraded" my phone to the HTC EVO LTE, with the understanding that Sprint would be turning on the service in the L.A. area sometime in September.
If you live in this area, you know it was delayed a few times, but you can now pick it up is certain areas.
However, it has recently been discovered that the EVO LTE has problems both connecting to, and staying connected to, LTE. It's ironic, considering it has LTE in its name.
I'm not here looking for advice on getting LTE working on this phone. The EVO LTE forum has plenty of threads devoted to that. But several people have started to lose patience and have been considering switching to the III. Both the III and the new iPhone have been reported to connect to LTE on Sprint network in areas that the EVO cannot.
So I thought I'd ask people who actually own and use the S III, and who are in areas where Sprint has LTE working, what you're experience is?
It will cost plenty to switch, and I'd like to avoid jumping from the frying pan into the fire if possible!
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leebo said:
In June I "upgraded" my phone to the HTC EVO LTE, with the understanding that Sprint would be turning on the service in the L.A. area sometime in September.
If you live in this area, you know it was delayed a few times, but you can now pick it up is certain areas.
However, it has recently been discovered that the EVO LTE has problems both connecting to, and staying connected to, LTE. It's ironic, considering it has LTE in its name.
I'm not here looking for advice on getting LTE working on this phone. The EVO LTE forum has plenty of threads devoted to that. But several people have started to lose patience and have been considering switching to the III. Both the III and the new iPhone have been reported to connect to LTE on Sprint network in areas that the EVO cannot.
So I thought I'd ask people who actually own and use the S III, and who are in areas where Sprint has LTE working, what you're experience is?
It will cost plenty to switch, and I'd like to avoid jumping from the frying pan into the fire if possible!
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I don't have LTE but do have the S3 and it is an amazing device from what I have read it has no problems connecting and staying on 4g I believe you will be way happier with the S3
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I made the switch from evo lte to the gs3. I have had it just over a week now and I can say that gs3 connects to lte much faster and stays connected. It picks up lte in areas where the evo does not. I even have the evo lte active on another line and I have been comparing the lte connection side by side for the past week.
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I've never had an EVO, but I really enjoy my SGSIII. I live in a LTE area and my phone is constantly connecting to LTE. I have no complaints whatsoever. On the other hand, my cousin has the EVO LTE and is not happy with it at all. I don't know how often the phone connects to LTE, but he has mentioned more than once that he is not happy with it. We are in the same area.

The one time I used lte it connected fine and stayed connected.

My sister has an Evo 4G LTE, and more often than not, she's on 3G when my S3 is on LTE 2 feet away. She's dying to switch to the S3.

I am in Houston with sg3 and lte is very good around town, especially inside my house. So good that rarely use my 12mbps wifi anymore.

Thanks everyone.
So I feel like I got ripped off by Sprint now. Selling me a phone called "LTE" that can't really connect to LTE, but just enough to keep them out of court.
I will try to be patient (as if waiting since June isn't patient) and wait till after New Years and go to EBay. Hopefully, the SIII will go down a bit since the Christmas shoppers will be gone.

leebo said:
Thanks everyone.
So I feel like I got ripped off by Sprint now. Selling me a phone called "LTE" that can't really connect to LTE, but just enough to keep them out of court.
I will try to be patient (as if waiting since June isn't patient) and wait till after New Years and go to EBay. Hopefully, the SIII will go down a bit since the Christmas shoppers will be gone.
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Sprint didn't make the phone, HTC did. Your complaint is with the mamanufacturer not the carrier.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Sprint didn't make the phone, HTC did. Your complaint is with the mamanufacturer not the carrier.
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No, Sprint sold the phone. Sprint named the phone. Sprint said, "Here is our newest phone". "It's made to run on our new LTE 4G network".
Hell, Sprint even directed HTC to make changes to the phone to differentiate it from the One X.
Sprint is the one holding my $350 hostage if I'm not happy and decide to leave. Sprint is the one who won't let me switch phones without paying a hefty price.
Now, you can split hairs and say "well, technically the phone can connect to LTE", but connecting once or twice a day for 30 seconds isn't usable.
If they're not willing to let EVO LTE owners exchange phones for at least a refurbished S III, that tells me they don't stand behind their service.
Any way you paint it, I'm unlikely to renew with them next time. So, if my point of view is correct, Sprint loses. If it's wrong, Sprint loses.
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You don't quite get it. Sprint didn't make the hardware that is causing the issue HTC chose the lte radio to use, the radio is what's failing. Therefore your complaint lies with HTC due to manufacturer defects. If u buy a defective Xbox from Walmart its not walmarts fault Microsoft shipped them a defective product and you have to go thru the manufacturer warranty to collect on defects. You legally have no leg to stand on if u went to court against sprint, your case wouldn't even be heard and you'd be told to file against the manufacturer not the retailer/carrier. This is common knowledge and listed on every warranty and return policy in the country.
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If I bought a defective Xbox at Walmart, it's highly likely Walmart would refund my money, whether they were legally obligated to or not. I could then buy a PS3 from them.
Also, they would not charge me $350 if I decided to leave and buy a PS3 at Sears.
Sprint will not be getting my return business. Period. I think they are the one's who don't get it, and that's reflected in their bottom line.

Please take all LTE discussions to the sticky thread.
Thanks
FNM

Pisspoor radios on S3

Apparently, now "everyone knows" that the hardware radios on the S3 are crap.
This information was not readily available when I originally was comparing it to the other options out there when looking to move on from my Evo. I would have never bought what is essentially a wifi-only mini-tablet (when at home) if I had known how bad it was. And I know I could have returned it but I didn't realize how crappy the radios were until I needed to use my cell frequently from my home for both calls and internet.
Anyhoo... really disappointed with this phone. The Evo radio kicks this things a**. Never had the inability to call out of my home...
Maybe dump it on ebay... looks like they go there for more than I paid...
Sconnie

Call sprint and complain. I did and now have a free airave. Not the ideal solution but my coverage is fine everywhere but my house :-|

The S3 radios are really good for me. I also had the Epic Touch and Evo LTE and their radios suck especially the Epic Touch.

I have the best reception I have ever had with any android phone. Might be they are upgrading your area with new LTE network. I had 2 to 3 weeks of terrible service when they upgraded here.
I had an og epic, an og Evo, a Galaxy Nexus and by far the S3 is the best.
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Guess someone didnt get the memo that they are doing a nationwide network upgrade and backhaul
I like to break stuff!

Cool post, please do sell your phone and give all glory to HTC. Goodbye! :crying:

It's usually ROM-based. I used CM10 on my S3 and whenever it got LTE it would just switch to 1x for some reason.
But then I flashed a TW ROM and I got constant LTE

Haha I've also had the best reception and reliability with the gs3
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They have been doing network vision improvements in my area. My service has gotten a lot better from when I bought my phone.
I went from have 2-3 bars to full signal inside my house.
Sent from a planet far far away.

On both the N2 and the S3 I het amazing signal way better than evo LTE or Nexus. Ill by your N2 for 350 if your unhappy
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SconnieRoadie said:
Apparently, now "everyone knows" that the hardware radios on the S3 are crap.
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Maybe dump it on ebay... looks like they go there for more than I paid...
Sconnie
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Apparently most people disagree with you. Either you got a bad phone or somethings going on in your area. Most of us (including me) are really happy with the phone, and there haven't been any mass uprising of angry SIII owners complaining about reception. In my case I live in a really low signal area for Sprint. I've gotten 0 to 2 bars on my last 2 phones, (HTC Touch Pro 2, Samsung Epic Slider). I get 0 to 2 bars on my SIII. Virtually no dropped calls even with 0 bars.
In the other hand, you clearly came here to dis on Samsung. Mission accomplished.

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Maybe dump it on ebay... looks like they go there for more than I paid...
Sconnie
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I paid 50 for each of my s3 ill give you 25 for yours
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Apparently most people disagree with you. Either you got a bad phone or somethings going on in your area. Most of us (including me) are really happy with the phone, and there haven't been any mass uprising of angry SIII owners complaining about reception. In my case I live in a really low signal area for Sprint. I've gotten 0 to 2 bars on my last 2 phones, (HTC Touch Pro 2, Samsung Epic Slider). I get 0 to 2 bars on my SIII. Virtually no dropped calls even with 0 bars.
In the other hand, you clearly came here to dis on Samsung. Mission accomplished.
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He must be using the terms "everyone" and "knows" extremely loosely - it is as impossible to speak for everyone without talking to them first as it is to know something that isn't true
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I have found the Qualcomm radios and GPS in the SG3 to be vastly superior to all my previous android phones. Started out with a Samsung Moment, then had a HTC EVO 4G, and finally a Samsung Epic Touch. This phones radios are the best - not your typical Sammy GPS and Radios.
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Doing a side by side comparison, the S3 has a much more reliable radio than the LTEvo. Sitting next to each other, I had 4G all day, while she was lucky to get 4G for 10 minutes the entire day.
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The fact that the OP has not returned to this thread and other posts he has made since November leads one to believe he is just Trolling. He doesn't seem to care what others have to say or respond to his post. He has a similar post about radio and signal from back in November and has yet to acknowledge the reply in that one.
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My S3 gets way better reception than my Epic 4G did. I do not even need the Airave in my house any more. Not sure who your ":everybody" is but as suggested maybe your phone is bad. You should try reflashing the modem or something.

So does HOW the rom report the signal value affect performance? I'm just curious because I've used stock TW, unofficial AOKP, and CM10.1 roms and Open Signal reports good voice reception and poor data while I'm at work and I wouldnt be able to access anything involving the internet (pandora, basic web surfing, etc). This weekend I flashed the latest pacman rom and Open Signal is reporting OK/Good mobile data reception and I've been running pandora for the last 3 hours with no problems. I dont think sprint is doing any work in the area that would suddenly cause things to change like this and my signal status being reported by the phone is still hovering around the -100dBm mark as usual. Any thoughts?

I can also agree that the s3 has great reception, I got hit by the nemo blizzard and everyone that was at my house for the two days of no power my phone was the only one with service.
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I actually agree with op, I believe the radio sucks for phone calls anyway
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