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Hey guys,
I got a I747 I want to give to my mother as a gift.
I downgraded 4.1.2 to 4.1.1 and ran the secret menu unlock to unlock the sim card, that worked perfectly.
Now I want to update this out of 4.1.1 to 4.4.2 but I cannot find a stock firmware to run on odin anywhere.
Do I need to go to 4.3 first? Is there a stock firmware for that?
SamMobile stops at 4.1.2... OTA obviously doesn't work.
How Can I get this done..
Iz3man said:
Hey guys,
I got a I747 I want to give to my mother as a gift.
I downgraded 4.1.2 to 4.1.1 and ran the secret menu unlock to unlock the sim card, that worked perfectly.
Now I want to update this out of 4.1.1 to 4.4.2 but I cannot find a stock firmware to run on odin anywhere.
SamMobile stops at 4.1.2... OTA obviously doesn't work.
How Can I get this done..
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You can just flash stock 4.1.2 firmware from sammobile and then run OTA updates.
I also found this on sammobile: Canada (Bell Mobile) (Black Edition), Version: Android 4.4.2, PDA: I747MVLUFNE6
CSC: I747MOYCFNE6, MODEM: I747MVLUFNE6
audit13 said:
You can just flash stock 4.1.2 firmware from sammobile and then run OTA updates.
I also found this on sammobile: Canada (Bell Mobile) (Black Edition), Version: Android 4.4.2, PDA: I747MVLUFNE6
CSC: I747MOYCFNE6, MODEM: I747MVLUFNE6
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Will it work though.
I have it already on my pc, I updated my wife's with it.
If I update to 4.1.2 will OTA come? Even with the I747(not the I747m) on the Bell network?
Iz3man said:
Will it work though.
I have it already on my pc, I updated my wife's with it.
If I update to 4.1.2 will OTA come? Even with the I747(not the I747m) on the Bell network?
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I have a Motorola Atrix from Bell. I flashed it with stock ATT firmware and received OTA updates from ATT over wi-fi.
Since you have the i747, start with stock pre-rooted ATT 4.1.1. This will flash the stock recovery, radio, and bootloader. Run triangle away, flash a stock unrooted ATT stock 4.1.1 ROM, and take the OTA updates.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...mctr=(not provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=135374642
audit13 said:
I have a Motorola Atrix from Bell. I flashed it with stock ATT firmware and received OTA updates from ATT over wi-fi.
Since you have the i747, start with stock pre-rooted ATT 4.1.1. This will flash the stock recovery, radio, and bootloader. Run triangle away, flash a stock unrooted ATT stock 4.1.1 ROM, and take the OTA updates.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...mctr=(not provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=135374642
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Ok, so I guess it wasn't clear, my bad.
I have 4.1.1 stock firmware on my att 1747. It has never been rooted.
I run the Ota and I got an error, now it tells me "Your software is up to date".
Can I flash a bell i747m 4.4.2 image onto this i747 or will it brick?
Iz3man said:
Ok, so I guess it wasn't clear, my bad.
I have 4.1.1 stock firmware on my att 1747. It has never been rooted.
I run the Ota and I got an error, now it tells me "Your software is up to date".
Can I flash a bell i747m 4.4.2 image onto this i747 or will it brick?
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You can flash i747m firmware on your phone but DO NOT flash the radios or bootloader from an i747m to an i747 and vice versa. Bricking is a really possibility if you do that.
Do you have a custom recovery? If you do, you will need to install a stock recovery.
Try resetting the phone (wiping cache, data) in recovery or through the ROM itself.
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You can flash i747m firmware on your phone but DO NOT flash the radios or bootloader from an i747m to an i747 and vice versa. Bricking is a really possibility if you do that.
Do you have a custom recovery? If you do, you will need to install a stock recovery.
Try resetting the phone (wiping cache, data) in recovery or through the ROM itself.
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Alright, I have the stock recovery. How do I not flash the radio and boatloads when using the firmware from sammobile?
You cant. You cannot flash another devices firmware. Odin wont let it happen and if it did youd end up hard bricked due to mixed firmware. For example your sbl1, modemst and param partitions (plus others) would be i747 and youd be flashing sbl2, sbl3, rpm, etc from an I747M.
The only thing you could use are the system partition and kernel, nothing else. There are two ways to accomplish this, one is to build a rom from the firmware and flash that. The other is to flash with mobile odin, but that requires root and youd still have to be very careful.
Another priblem I see you encountering is you cannot run 4.4.2 without 4.3 or newer firmware. It will not boot otherwise.
You need to go to the General section and follow one of enewman17's tutorials to get to either 4.3 or 4.4.2. Personally, I dont see any other way you will be able to accomplish it.
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You can flash i747m firmware on your phone but DO NOT flash the radios or bootloader from an i747m to an i747 and vice versa. Bricking is a really possibility if you do that.
Do you have a custom recovery? If you do, you will need to install a stock recovery.
Try resetting the phone (wiping cache, data) in recovery or through the ROM itself.
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Alright, based on Doc holiday, and others they say It cannot be done and from my experience I beleive them.
Thank you,
It's very difficult to do this when others are giving bad advice.
So for the record, cannot flash i747m firmware to i747.
Thanks!
The annoying part here is I can do it with my m7, I just flashed the Dev edition onto my Bell m7 with no problems.
All devices are different in many ways. What is perfectly safe to do with one brand or model can brick another.
And I wouldnt call it "bad" advice... I've seen audit13 and others helping lots of folks with very good advice. We all make mistakes and we all have more we can learn about these devices. No one knows everything about this stuff and shouldnt let that prevent them from trying to help.
Those who are trying to help are doing so with the best of intentions and tell people what they think could be the best way to solve a given problem. In cases like this one, its easy to see how anyone would think its ok to flash different firmware between similar models based on being able to do so on other devices they are familiar with. (If I had gone into those forums I wouldve been telling people the opposite and ended up being wrong there.)
All I can say is chalk it up as a new lesson on a different device, and I hope you still appreciate that someone was trying to help.
@audit13 I hope none of this discourages you from helping. Ive seen plenty of threads where your advice was sound and appreciated, and I am glad you have been around to help so many people out!
Now, back on the problem at hand... if you want to be running the latest 4.4.2 kk, you will have the option to use the OS (/system and kernel) from either the I747 or I747M firmware. But first you must fully update to a minimum of the 4.3 MJB firmware for the I747. Once you have this running for your base firmware/bootloader, you can then run the Bell or AT&T (4.3 or 4.4.2) system. (I hope this is making sense!)
So first, update the full 4.3, MJB, firmware via Odin. (Theres a thread in General with the file, ill post the link in a min).
If you want to update to 4.4.2 firmware, you can then follow enewman17's tutorial to do so via OTA.
You can then either stay with that, or use Mobile Odin to flash ONLY the system and kernel from the Bell firmware.
Let me know if any of that needs better clarification! Also let us know what your ultimate goal is. From the options you have, where do you want to end up?
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Ok, here are some links.
Stock MJB firmware (flash in Odin)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2722660
enewman17's thread for updating to 4.4.2 (high success rate)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2789917
Official, unmodified 4.4.2 OTA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2788012
After updating with the 4.3 firmware, you can first try using the official ota to update. Then, if that fails you can go to enewman17's thread and try his method.
DocHoliday77 said:
All devices are different in many ways. What is perfectly safe to do with one brand or model can brick another.
And I wouldnt call it "bad" advice... I've seen audit13 and others helping lots of folks with very good advice. We all make mistakes and we all have more we can learn about these devices. No one knows everything about this stuff and shouldnt let that prevent them from trying to help.
Those who are trying to help are doing so with the best of intentions and tell people what they think could be the best way to solve a given problem. In cases like this one, its easy to see how anyone would think its ok to flash different firmware between similar models based on being able to do so on other devices they are familiar with. (If I had gone into those forums I wouldve been telling people the opposite and ended up being wrong there.)
All I can say is chalk it up as a new lesson on a different device, and I hope you still appreciate that someone was trying to help.
@audit13 I hope none of this discourages you from helping. Ive seen plenty of threads where your advice was sound and appreciated, and I am glad you have been around to help so many people out! ]
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err on the side of kindness
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Ive unrooted my phone via the super user app but I still have the Liquid Smooth ROM. From everything I read I was under the impression it would reboot completely stock
How do get it back to stock ROM!? I have been searching everywhere and nothing?
I want to get my OTA updates as I haven't used this phone since last year. I don't have access to a computer as NY charger bit the dust and I'm working the next 2 weeks in a remote location with no WiFi (I have data though)
Can any on help me, I'm slightly desperate as this Liquid Smooth ROM lags horrible, reboots if I try to use the front camera (in any app!) and is missing a lot of simple stock features like the messaging app lol,
Oy what have I done am I stuck with this or is there a way to reroot without a PC so I can flash a stock ROM?!
I'm assuming you have the i747 from AT&T.
Unrooting simply removes your administrator access to system files and apps that need root access to be fully functional, that's all.
What bootloader is on your phone? If the phone has a 4.1.2 bootloader or lower, the easiest way to get back to stock would be to flash a stock AT&T ROM from sammobile. com using Odin and I recommend living with the phone in its current state until your get access to a PC and charger.
If your bootloader is 4.3 or higher, you cannot flash a stock AT&T ROM using Odin because AT&T naver released a full ROM that can be flashed that way. You'll confirm your bootloader and follow the appropriate thread to get as close to stock as possible.
I keep mentioning the bootloader because flashing the wrong bootloader/modem combination could hard brick your phone.
audit13 said:
I'm assuming you have the i747 from AT&T.
Unrooting simply removes your administrator access to system files and apps that need root access to be fully functional, that's all.
What bootloader is on your phone? If the phone has a 4.1.2 bootloader or lower, the easiest way to get back to stock would be to flash a stock AT&T ROM from sammobile. com using Odin and I recommend living with the phone in its current state until your get access to a PC and charger.
If your bootloader is 4.3 or higher, you cannot flash a stock AT&T ROM using Odin because AT&T naver released a full ROM that can be flashed that way. You'll confirm your bootloader and follow the appropriate thread to get as close to stock as possible.
I keep mentioning the bootloader because flashing the wrong bootloader/modem combination could hard brick your phone.
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I attached an image does that help as far as boot loader goes? I'm not sure how to check it. I have the I747M on virgin mobile Canada. Att ROMs have usually worked perfectly. So if my boot loader is compatible I can flash a stock ROM with Odin without rerooting?
Since you have an i747m, the safest and easiest way to restore to completely stock would be to wait until you can flash a stock 4.3 ROM via Odin. Do not attempt to flash anything older than 4.3.
Custom AT&T ROMs will work on your i747m but I don't recommend using stock AT&T ROMs on an i747m. Also, do not flash AT&T modems or bootloaders onto an i747m as this will probably brick your phone.
audit13 said:
Since you have an i747m, the safest and easiest way to restore to completely stock would be to wait until you can flash a stock 4.3 ROM via Odin. Do not attempt to flash anything older than 4.3.
Custom AT&T ROMs will work on your i747m but I don't recommend using stock AT&T ROMs on an i747m. Also, do not flash AT&T modems or bootloaders onto an i747m as this will probably brick your phone.
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Okay that first part sounds simple enough for me.
But what would be a preferable stock ROM to flash if not ATT (assuming you say this because my phone is Virgin Mobile Canada) If I remember correctly I had flashed a ATT stock ROM a long time ago and ended up with no service and security issues that I eventually fixed but were a pain in the arse to figure out. I don't know if I've ever come across a Virgin Mobile ROM. I believe they are a sub company of Bell btw.
Go to sammobile.com and flash any mk5 firmware you want for the i747m. You can choose from Rogers, Bell, and Telus.
I have cross-flashed a Rogers ROM onto a Telus Phone and a Telus ROM onto a Bell phone.
Based on my own experience, all i747m ROMs for Canadian carriers appear to be the same except for carrier customisations.
audit13 said:
Go to sammobile.com and flash any mk5 firmware you want for the i747m. You can choose from Rogers, Bell, and Telus.
I have cross-flashed a Rogers ROM onto a Telus Phone and a Telus ROM onto a Bell phone.
Based on my own experience, all i747m ROMs for Canadian carriers appear to be the same except for carrier customisations.
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Okay! Perfect this is a lot more straight forward than I anticipated, thank you SO much!!
When flashing the ROM with Odin, uncheck everything except f.reset time. When the flash is complete, you will see the word "reset" in the status window. When you see reset, remove the USB cable, remove the battery, replace the battery, boot into recovery, and wipe cache, data, Dalvik, and reboot.
i have rooted and unlocked galaxy s3(i don't know if it is t999 or i747)the imei and boatloader are for t999 and the android build is i747mvldlk4 4.1.1 official rom and i want to flash new rom but i don't know what i have to flash (t999 roms or i747)please help me....
What does it day in download mode? What about the baseband/modem version?
Best way to know for sure is to install terminal emulator and enter this:
getprop ro.bootloader
You may simply have a T999 running on an I747 based rom. The two are very compatible when it comes to custom roms.
Since it sounds like you are on pretty old firmware, you will probably need to fully update it before flashing a newer rom. Just remember to only flash firmware for your model device. So if it's a T999 do not flash I747 firmware. Once updated you can then flash custom roms from either device.
(Also check the sticker under the battery to see what model it says)
baseband:t999uvdmd5 and modem board is msm8260a
What about the bootloader?
boatloader:t999uvdmd5
And just for good measure, check the sticker under the battery.
You are currently running on T999 base firmware with an I747 based rom, so you can be pretty certain you've got a T999 model.
You'll want to flash one of the two latest firmwares for the T999. (NC2 or OH1 if I'm remembering correctly) (note that some roms may not flash on the newest OH1 firmware if they have been updated recently, so you may want to go with NC2 to make things a little easier for now.)
After flashing your firmware, flash a custom recovery and then from the recovery flash your choice of rom.
Hope that helps and good luck!
thanks so much for help....but i want to ask about the files which i need to download when i flash nc2 firmware please(do i need to download any files for modem and kernel or this files are downloaded automatially with the firmware file??
When you are dealing with firmware, it includes everything, unless otherwise stated. Download and unzip the firmware package. Then flash the .tar.md5 file with Odin. Back up data first of course, just in case.
Doing this will give you a fully updated, stock, unrooted device. Reroot using Towel root, or flash recovery then a rom if you choose.
If you haven't already, I suggest reading the first few posts of my firmware thread (sticky in dev section). There's already a lot explained there.
does flashing t999uvuenc2 relock my mobile network..and if that will happens what can i do to unlock without code
Once the phone has been unlocked via code or the free method, the phone should remain unlocked after flashing ROMs.
Yup, the unlock is permanent. You can safely flash firmware, roms, etc.
ihave flashed cm12.1 d2tmo on my t999.but the features of camera like full HD video recording and face detecting were lost..can I restore them on this rom
I have a Samsung S3 AT&T version, SGH-i747. The phone is rooted and I have the ROM backed up using CWM.
Can I flash this phone with the stock T-Mobile ROM version without any issues (I believe it is T999?).
My goal is to get wifi calling which doesn't come with the ATT model and from what I've read, if I can install the T-Mobile stock ROM or a custom version of it, it will come the wifi calling capability.
Thanks
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According to my experience, I would say NO.
But you can try it. And if it doent work, revert back to your ROM
By the way I am using custom ROM too on ATT phone.
It may be a matter of semantics, but do not install the stock T-mobile rom. Stock implies you will also be flashing the bootloader and modem. Installing the T999 bootloader and modem on the i747 will brick it. Anything from Sammobile would flash bootloader and modem.
Now, I have seen a number of CM, AOSP, and custom TouchWiz (based on Stock Samsung) ROMs for the i747 that will run on the T999. I would think the reverse would hold true, the T999 ROMs running on the i747. AS LONG AS they do not flash bootloader and modem. BE ADVISED, I have not searched the T999 threads to verify this conjecture. Some doubt enters my mind as I recall that T999 ROMs support AWS while i747 ROMs do not, this may break running them on the i747.
The T999 roms should run fine for the most part. It's safe to flash one to try, just DO NOT flash the firmware as mentioned above.
As for WiFi calling, don't get your hopes up. If I'm not mistaken it's tied into the modem (part of the firmware you cannot flash). So unless you have a T999, WiFi calling won't work.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk
I have a Canadian Galaxy S3, on 4.1.1 DLK4 Official. I rooted it, and have TWRP.
I want to upgrade my rom to a CM12/13 but of course with root and custom recovery, OTA updates are blocked.
I need newer bootloaders and modem to run the newer android versions.
Should I install them now, while on 4.1.1, and then flash CM12, or should I sequentially update each of the AT&T firmwares until I get up to 4.4.2?
Do official roms have the bootloaders and modems in them and install them automatically?
Should I use the Kies restore method?
The Canadian and att s3 phones are not the same model number. Don't flash an att bootloader to your Canadian phone as this may brick the phone.
Flash latest stock rom from Sammobile.com, flash twrp, flash cm.
audit13 said:
The Canadian and att s3 phones are not the same model number. Don't flash an att bootloader to your Canadian phone as this may brick the phone.
Flash latest stock rom from Sammobile.com, flash twrp, flash cm.
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Okay, but i can use AT&T roms tho?
The i747m will work with d2can, d2lte, and d2att Roms.
Is it safe to flash straight from 4.1.1 to 4.4.2 using a sammobile rom? will i brick due to Knox bootloader and modem?
Can I flash it using TWRP?
If someone could link a tutorial that would be very helpful.
I keep reading stuff that says to flash the newer bootloader before flashing a 4.3 firmware, and some that say the opposite. Others say that people should incrementally update.
I want to go from 4.1.1 original with Root and TWRP, to CM13.
Thank you.
Yes, you can flash the latest stock 4.4.2 rom from Sammobile.com directly to your phone. No need to do anything other than backing up your data.
audit13 said:
Yes, you can flash the latest stock 4.4.2 rom from Sammobile.com directly to your phone. No need to do anything other than backing up your data.
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Thank you!
Now I just need to get the balls again to use odin. Flashing the custom recovery using the Universal Tool Kit that had step by step walkthrough was adrenaline rush enough LOL.
I could also use Kies, as that has 4.4.2 OB3 (telus), and also has "emergency firmware recovery" feature if a brick ever happens. Though ideally the only time boot.img gets flashed is only with Full Stock Firmware files.
I find kies to be unreliable when I have tried to restore firmware so I always stuck with Odin.