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Looked everywhere but have only found a few comments mainly regarding the AT&T network.
I have a AT&T branded Tilt-2 with TP2_Core_Cell_Evo_V3.1_(23127) and am on the T-mobile network.
In my area we have HSDPA and 3G, and my HTC 3G Dash shows those connections and runs from 583K up to 898K.
My Tilt2 on the other hand runs between 36K and a max of 156K (usually its under 50K)
I have tried everything and a ton of different radios and nothing seems to help.
I can't believe I am the only one, and I am sure its in the forum but I havent been able to find it and I have been looking for 2 days now. Does ANYONE know if there is a solution to this or am I stuck with a great looking phone and ROM that is slower than my old HTC Universal.
So I am starting this thread with the keywords in the title to help others find the info/help/cab/settings to fix this issue.
Any help would be appreciated..
Charles
Can I assume from the deafening silence that there is no solution and this would be why I couldn't find anything when I was searching all over the forums.
I thought AT&T and T-mobile use different bands for their 3G...haven't met anyone yet that can switch between these two and get the others' 3G service to work on the phone from the other...only Edge.
Yep, 3G are are different bands and AT&T's unique.
Most likely, hardware limit and T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 version is what you wanted.
However, for my Tilt 2, I use AT&T Prepaid Pay-as-you-go and get full 3G service and for $20 get 30 days of 100MB data at full speed. The Pay-as-you-go offers a $3.00 per day for unlimited calls during 24 hour period when you choose plan.
But the settings on the phone even show the 2100MHZ band and other stuff.. thought quad band phones were useable on all GSM networks. I guess that must mean the phones are but not the data portion of the phone.
So it would seem I have a really nice looking phone thats about as functional as a Windows 7 computer with a 56K dialup modem. Great...
Anyone on AT&T and have a T-mobile Touch Pro2 that they would like to swap with me.
when you talk about gsm (gprs/edge/2g), there are 4 bands and pretty much all devices can work on those. when it comes to umts (3g/hspa encap) thats where proprietary bands come in. word wide you will have the 900 and 2100 bands, att uses the 850 and 1900 bands, and tmobile uses 1700. what bands a phone is capable of running on depends on the baseband hardware in the phone. theres no way to change this without basically swapping the phone out for the carrier branded device.
cdma like sprint and verizon is another monster...
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thought quad band phones were useable on all GSM networks.
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They do, but working and working optimally are 2 different things. You should always buy a phone to work on the network you use regularly, and be happy it works at all on others when you travel.
Live and learn..
I wonder if anyone out there in the community has a TouchPro2 that they got for use on AT&T and would like to swap..?
Charles
Can't get 3G Either
I'm using an unlocked HTC Touch Pro 2 (Euro Version) on T-Mobile and can only get Edge. The funny hting is that T-mobile is stumped on the issue even though they've seen that I'm using an HTC Touch Pro 2, not the branded T-Mo version. I just started looking into hardware differences tonight and will post whatever I find. I'm glad you started the thread.
T-Mobile HSPA bands
Just confirmed my suspicions.
The branded T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 operates on HSPA/WCDMA on the following bands: 1700/2100 MHz.
The HTC Touch Pro 2 (unbranded) operates on HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz.
So, if you want 3G, you need to stick with the T-Mobile branded phone.
Wow...I never thought I'd hear myself saying those words. *sigh* =(
I actually have a t-mobile branded HTC Touch Pro 2 I use on ATT, if you really wanna swap I'm totally down for that. My email is [email protected] shoot me a message and lets work out how to go about this.
I have CM7 loaded, but doesn't really matter what rom I load, I can't seem to get 3G data speeds. I am getting internet, so that tells me the APN is setup correctly, just not 3G. Any thoughts?
Jason
probably need to look into a different radio
Any ideas? I tried 3 different ones!
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The model I have is A7272 and I have an AT&T sim. Do you think the sim tells the phone what band to use for 3G? They have the option of a T-mobile sim, does anyone think that will work?
look up the A7272 on gsm arena to see what 3G band it supports and cross reference it with ATT's 3G band
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I think it was because I had an ATT sim. I got a T-mobile sim and now I'm getting "H" everywhere. Still doesn't seem as fast as Verizon's 3G, but for $45/month I can't beat it. So the A7272 supports HSDPA 900 / 2100, is that why with the T-Mobile sim I can get H, because they have a 2100 HSDPA Frequency?
AT&T uses the 850/1900 spectrum for 3g and the 700mhz spectrum for 4g.
Since your phone supports none of those, that's why.
T-Mobile uses 1700/2100 (requiring both) or 1900 for 3g/4g. now, you only have half of the 2 spectrum requirement so you probably only have "half" 3g. Tmobile uses one spectrum for upload and one for download. I don't know which one is which, but if you only have one, that means you'll only get 3g/4g speed on either uploads or downloads, but not both.
I guess I fell into this trap as well... I bought a desire z thinking I could use 3g on it with my ATT/Straight talk sim. After unlocking and re-roming, I now see the same issue, stuck on Egde, and really slow edge at that.
jch2os, did you see a difference in your service area/call quality switching to the tmobile sim? I've been really happy using an Inspire on Straight talk with ATT's network, do you feel the tmobile service is a downgrade from what you previously had with ATT/Straight talk?
Thanks for the info!
After some research via eBay and Amazon, it turns out that there is two versions of the Desire Z. There is the A7272 which supports the WCDMA 900/2100 MHz bands and the A7275 which supports the 3G 850/1900 MHz bands.
idenlover, if your device is getting EDGE on the Straight Talk sim that runs on AT&T's bands, your device is the A7272 and you should get the T-Mobile Straight Talk sim. I myself am a G2 user on T-Mobile and I can say service and calling is pretty much crystal clear except in school, where there are numerous concrete buildings. Then again, I'm based in Miami, FL so I wouldn't know how service would be on your end. I hope this helps!
if you want AT&T you need the A7275 from bell canada.
Hi all! Look like i have the same problem. I have Desire Z from Russia - with russian symbols in a hard-keyboard. And in FIDO network i have only EGDE signal - never 3G. My question: what a part of phone i need change? Antenna? GSM-module? or something other? Please don't advice me change the phone - i need this keyboard, with russian symbols!!! )
P.S. If anybody know solution this problem in software (any radio, ROM, or etc.) - please, answer me too. I don't want a lot open the phone and change any parts, only if this really needed. )
P.P.S. If it important - my h-boot is 0.84.2000.
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From what I get from your problem is that your phone doesnt support the FIDO network 3g bands. I think that is hardware locked. Hopefully somebody can chime in
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help! straight talk edge BS!
idenlover said:
I guess I fell into this trap as well... I bought a desire z thinking I could use 3g on it with my ATT/Straight talk sim. After unlocking and re-roming, I now see the same issue, stuck on Egde, and really slow edge at that.
jch2os, did you see a difference in your service area/call quality switching to the tmobile sim? I've been really happy using an Inspire on Straight talk with ATT's network, do you feel the tmobile service is a downgrade from what you previously had with ATT/Straight talk?
Thanks for the info!
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add another one to the list. how did you fix your problem, if at all? this stupid edge crap is garbage.
Because I hate the idea of having a neutered AT&T Note 5, I bought an international variant (N920i). It appears the LTE bands are all compatible between the two. I will let everyone know how it turns out. If you already have experience with this, let me know.
EDIT: Yes, N920i works without any modification on AT&T
When does it arrive?
Thats very interesting.
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First half of this week hopefully!
Please keep us posted.
@alaskajoel Le us know if you have any signal issues.
The T Mobile S6 Edge on AT&T network gave me some issues. Calls would take 30 seconds to dial out and phone did not ring a bunch.
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@alaskajoel Le us know if you have any signal issues.
The T Mobile S6 Edge on AT&T network gave me some issues. Calls would take 30 seconds to dial out and phone did not ring a bunch.
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Will do. Should be in my hands tomorrow.
Here goes. N920i 64GB
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LTE Working with attnextgenphone APN. Made a few phone calls, received one, and so far no odd problems.
I don't see the LTE on the signal bar are you sure it's on LTE?
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May I ask where you purchased this version?
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I don't see the LTE on the signal bar are you sure it's on LTE?
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May I ask where you purchased this version?
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LTE showing up on the signal bar is a Domestic device visual. International versions Show E (edge) 3G, H+ (Faux G) and 4G for LTE.
If you are still unconvinced, my service mode presently shows I am on LTE Band 4. Download speeds at 40mbps this evening. No carrier aggregation unfortunately, but I also didn't have it on my Nexus 6 or the GS6.
I purchased the phone from a seller in Hong Kong via Ebay.
Awesome! Enjoy!
Yep, just like the International S6 G920I that supported AT&T LTE
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This is excellent news. How much did you pay for that bad boy? Please go to dev settings and see if "allow OEM unlock" is in the options. Thank you.
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This is excellent news. How much did you pay for that bad boy? Please go to dev settings and see if "allow OEM unlock" is in the options. Thank you.
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~$900 USD. OEM Unlock is an available option in Developer Options.
I thought I'd give this thread a small bump as I'm about to pull the trigger on an international N920I as well.
My question stems from simply being new to importing phones and having to pay attention to bands. I have bene following this thread closely, and it seems as though the N920I performs well on the AT&T network, but is it the same as if I had bought one from AT&T? I ask only because it was just mentioned that this phone does not have Carrier Aggregation.
I'm not certain what carrier aggregation is (I looked it up on google but couldn't find much to answer my question). Does this mean that it will perform more slowly on US networks?
Also a final question, if anyone is willing to answer it. What is the region-locking situation on this phone? I have read mixed reports about people being stuck with phones that they cannot use because it was not activated with a compatible SIM, and some people that say they have had no problem. I don't want to drop $900 on this device and not be able to use it.
Diraan said:
I thought I'd give this thread a small bump as I'm about to pull the trigger on an international N920I as well.
My question stems from simply being new to importing phones and having to pay attention to bands. I have bene following this thread closely, and it seems as though the N920I performs well on the AT&T network, but is it the same as if I had bought one from AT&T? I ask only because it was just mentioned that this phone does not have Carrier Aggregation.
I'm not certain what carrier aggregation is (I looked it up on google but couldn't find much to answer my question). Does this mean that it will perform more slowly on US networks?
Also a final question, if anyone is willing to answer it. What is the region-locking situation on this phone? I have read mixed reports about people being stuck with phones that they cannot use because it was not activated with a compatible SIM, and some people that say they have had no problem. I don't want to drop $900 on this device and not be able to use it.
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My data speeds and reception have been the same as my nexus 6 and girlfriend's GS6 (purchased from AT&T.) Carrier aggregation allows for next generation LTE, but I have yet to own a phone, AT&T branded or otherwise, that supports it in my area. It might just be that there is no support for it in my city, but I'll be in Chicago In a few weeks and will try to investigate it there.
I can't speak to the region locking. All I know is my phone was completely sealed and worked 100% right out of the box with only putting in an AT&T SIM card.
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My data speeds and reception have been the same as my nexus 6 and girlfriend's GS6 (purchased from AT&T.) Carrier aggregation allows for next generation LTE, but I have yet to own a phone, AT&T branded or otherwise, that supports it in my area. It might just be that there is no support for it in my city, but I'll be in Chicago In a few weeks and will try to investigate it there.
I can't speak to the region locking. All I know is my phone was completely sealed and worked 100% right out of the box with only putting in an AT&T SIM card.
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Thank you for the quick reply. I think I'll put in an order right now.
Samsung Pay
I'm glad to hear that the N920I works on AT&T on the LTE band. I considered getting the International version. However, there is something else that I am concerned about...and that is Samsung Pay that will be coming late September. I believe carriers have to allow (or configure) Samsung Pay to work. For example, Verizon may not be supporting it, at least that's what's traveling around the net. Also when I had the International Galaxy S3 on AT&T, Google Wallet didn't work, it only worked on AT&T versions at that time. Unfortunately, we won't know until Samsung Pay is available, but I wonder if it will work on the N920I?
Awesome news. can you please tell me if VOLTE works on AT&T or if you even had the option for HD calling? Settings should be found under data options.
Thanks in advance.
For those wondering, if you use an N920I on AT&T, there are a few things you should know.
1. Since this is an international model, the signal indicators are different than what we're used to seeing in the US. The SM-N920I shows the following indicators for mobile data:
E - This means you have a 2G/EDGE connection
3G - This means you have a UMTS connection with no HSPA
H+ - This means you have an HSPA+/Faux 4G connection
4G - This means you have an LTE connection
2. Phone calls will not work over LTE (VoLTE), and, by extension, HD Voice doesn't work either. The VoLTE and HD Voice components are proprietary software that is only built into the AT&T-specific ROM on the SM-N920A.
3. The phone DOES support carrier aggregation (otherwise known as LTE-Advanced), but not on AT&T's bands. Considering that the SM-N920I is intended for retail in Australia, New Zealand, and Singapore, the baseband firmware is tweaked to do carrier aggregation on band pairs that are common among carriers in that part of the world.
So, what does this all mean? If you want a phone that has support for all the bleeding-edge technologies on AT&T's network (VoLTE, HD Voice, LTE-A), then you have no other choice but to buy an AT&T-branded SM-N920A. However, if you want faster updates, no carrier bloat, no carrier branding, an unlockable bootloader, and don't mind sacrificing the whiz-bang stuff on the network side of things, then an SM-N920I will work just fine. Put your SIM card in, you'll get LTE data on all of AT&T's available bands, and you'll be able to make and receive calls over the HSPA+ network. You're just not going to have all the latest carrier-marketed bells and whistles that you'd get if you bought a proper AT&T-branded SM-N920A.
At this point, I *should* rant about how stupid it is that Samsung refuses to sell SIM-free, unlocked versions of their phones via US retail channels. That's what forces us to go through these 3rd party importers to get the international models that aren't really tweaked for the US carriers. Alas, I'm not going to go down that road, though. It's a tempest in a teapot.
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1. Since this is an international model, the signal indicators are different than what we're used to seeing in the US. The SM-N920I shows the following indicators for mobile data:
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Translation: On the 920i/c, the signal indicators follow the international standard of "4G" being "LTE", and not the AT&T/TMO marketing fiction of "4G" being what everyone else calls "3.5G".
As for the rest of your points, I have to wonder how well deployed VoLTE is on AT&T (and I don't think AT&T has even started LTE-A yet, have they?)
I live in a somewhat rural area, and I'm just thrilled I have LTE.. which beats the "no signal" I get with other carriers. I don't know that I've ever experienced VoLTE. (Then again, I can't remember the last time I actually had a voice conversation with my phone.)
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At this point, I *should* rant about how stupid it is that Samsung refuses to sell SIM-free, unlocked versions of their phones via US retail channels. That's what forces us to go through these 3rd party importers to get the international models that aren't really tweaked for the US carriers. Alas, I'm not going to go down that road, though. It's a tempest in a teapot.
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Oh, but why not?! We really need some more activity in the AT&T Note5 section.
Just curious because in all my excitement I failed to realize that the Oneplus 3 does not support Verizons band 13 I have the North American version BTW
i join in!
bought the phone while on vacation in the US. where i live, LTE mainly uses band 3 (1800) which is not supported by the US version.
only thought about it after i was home
eladrichi said:
i join in!
bought the phone while on vacation in the US. where i live, LTE mainly uses band 3 (1800) which is not supported by the US version.
only thought about it after i was home
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Both the North American variant and the China variant share model number A3000, there's a high chance those two variants are the same piece of hardware. The China model is said to support LTE band 3.
You could try this out to enable all hardware supported bands. Please let us know the result.
The guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
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Both the North American variant and the China variant share model number A3000, there's a high chance those two variants are the same piece of hardware. The China model is said to support LTE band 3.
You could try this out to enable all hardware supported bands. Please let us know the result.
The guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
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Enabling bands on the OnePlus line of devices requires a patch to the NVRAM, one of which hasn't been made for the OP3 (and older patches cause bootloops). When enabling bands, the NVRAM resets on boot, reverting all changes. I've done some research and testing, and it seems that missing bands aren't the problem. It's provisioning. The OP3 fully supports most of the bands Verizon uses, but doesn't know how to switch between LTE and CDMA. You can force LTE with a few build.prop edits and changing some cellular settings, and it works blazingly fast - but, you can ONLY use LTE and nothing else. I'm still doing some more work, but a few people that know more about RIL than me have said they will begin looking for a solution around October. For now, just enable data roaming (which isn't actually roaming if you're in the US) and use 3G. I'm confident that we can get it working eventually.
Band 13 isn't some magical necessary band, it's just the first and therefore most common band. Yet my area doesn't even use it.
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Also, I am unable to get a 4G lock on Oxygen, only on CM based ROMs.
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Enabling bands on the OnePlus line of devices requires a patch to the NVRAM, one of which hasn't been made for the OP3 (and older patches cause bootloops). When enabling bands, the NVRAM resets on boot, reverting all changes. I've done some research and testing, and it seems that missing bands aren't the problem. It's provisioning. The OP3 fully supports most of the bands Verizon uses, but doesn't know how to switch between LTE and CDMA. You can force LTE with a few build.prop edits and changing some cellular settings, and it works blazingly fast - but, you can ONLY use LTE and nothing else. I'm still doing some more work, but a few people that know more about RIL than me have said they will begin looking for a solution around October. For now, just enable data roaming (which isn't actually roaming if you're in the US) and use 3G. I'm confident that we can get it working eventually.
Band 13 isn't some magical necessary band, it's just the first and therefore most common band. Yet my area doesn't even use it.
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Also, I am unable to get a 4G lock on Oxygen, only on CM based ROMs.
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thanks for the reply.
i am actually currently living in Israel (so Verizon are quite far away )
the local networks all have LTE on band 3 (1800) which is not supported on my OP3.
i did manage to get 3g without doing anything, and following your bootloop comment, i will probably wait until October for someone with the know-how to generate a stable working solution.
thanks anyway!
BTW, while i was in the US (Oregon) i used T-Mobile and got LTE all day long with default settings on the same OP3 device.
eladrichi said:
thanks for the reply.
i am actually currently living in Israel (so Verizon are quite far away )
the local networks all have LTE on band 3 (1800) which is not supported on my OP3.
i did manage to get 3g without doing anything, and following your bootloop comment, i will probably wait until October for someone with the know-how to generate a stable working solution.
thanks anyway!
BTW, while i was in the US (Oregon) i used T-Mobile and got LTE all day long with default settings on the same OP3 device.
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Well, mine is China version and I mainly live in the US now. It would be a great deal if we exchanged our phones.
Anyway, I feel HSPA+ is fast enough for me, at least better than my wifi at home.
camcorder123 said:
Enabling bands on the OnePlus line of devices requires a patch to the NVRAM, one of which hasn't been made for the OP3 (and older patches cause bootloops). When enabling bands, the NVRAM resets on boot, reverting all changes. I've done some research and testing, and it seems that missing bands aren't the problem. It's provisioning. The OP3 fully supports most of the bands Verizon uses, but doesn't know how to switch between LTE and CDMA. You can force LTE with a few build.prop edits and changing some cellular settings, and it works blazingly fast - but, you can ONLY use LTE and nothing else. I'm still doing some more work, but a few people that know more about RIL than me have said they will begin looking for a solution around October. For now, just enable data roaming (which isn't actually roaming if you're in the US) and use 3G. I'm confident that we can get it working eventually.
Band 13 isn't some magical necessary band, it's just the first and therefore most common band. Yet my area doesn't even use it.
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Also, I am unable to get a 4G lock on Oxygen, only on CM based ROMs.
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That I had no idea, Thanks for the information.
In fact the only band I need(more like Wind Mobile Canada need) is UMTS band 4, Wind does not have a LTE network yet.
I'm just trying to figure out if the China model supports UMTS band 4. If it does I could simply buy one here in China and bring it to Canada instead of spending 100 CAD more for the Canadian North American model.
Oops. Not used to having an international phone, forgot that not everybody is on Verizon . Anyways. Until someone can make an NVRAM patch, the only thing that might help are some build.prop edits. I'm actually currently searching for them, I'll post them when I find them.
So volte works fine for me but on LTE Discovery I only see my OnePlus 3 connecting to Band 4 and getting mediocre reception, and I'm pretty confident where I live there is band 12 (central Austin, Texas)
Anyone having a similar issue?
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Oops. Not used to having an international phone, forgot that not everybody is on Verizon . Anyways. Until someone can make an NVRAM patch, the only thing that might help are some build.prop edits. I'm actually currently searching for them, I'll post them when I find them.
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will editing the build.prop open up the locked LTE bands? or will it just allow me to force LTE on the currently available LTE bands for my device region?
more specifically, will this enable LTE band 3 even though the OP3 is the US version?
if so, i am willing to play along and if i get good LTE coverage at home and work, i don't mind it being LTE only.
I'm join too to the questions, like to take a part of this too, there is any news? Thanks
Also interested.. have only band 3 coverage and bought the OP3 in the US..
Thanks
As I see it now, I talk with few people and they all said that it can't be done
Yeah interested in knowing this as well since I can only really get the US version easily to New Zealand.
My provider only supports:
LTE (band 3) 1800 MHz
LTE (band 28) 700 MHz
RIP :/
eladrichi said:
will editing the build.prop open up the locked LTE bands? or will it just allow me to force LTE on the currently available LTE bands for my device region?
more specifically, will this enable LTE band 3 even though the OP3 is the US version?
if so, i am willing to play along and if i get good LTE coverage at home and work, i don't mind it being LTE only.
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It won't enable bands. Can't. It WILL force a connection to LTE on any supported bands in your area, though. I'm so sorry, but I'm currently in the process of finding the build.prop edits I mentioned, I had them on a thread on a different account that appears to have been deleted. The second I find them I'll post them.
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So I'm having a hard time getting edits to actually work. I was on CM13 at the time and I'm currently on RR, but it might just be my location (on vacation). But for those who wanna try, here are the edits:
lteOnCdmaDevice=1
to.telephony.default_network=11
There were a few more concerning GSM and CDMA operator numbers, but those seem to have no effect. You might also have to fiddle around in the cellular data settings and change from Global to LTE.
One thing is for sure - these won't work on Oxygen OS. I can't get a lock on 4G on Oxygen no matter how hard I try.
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It won't enable bands. Can't. It WILL force a connection to LTE on any supported bands in your area, though. I'm so sorry, but I'm currently in the process of finding the build.prop edits I mentioned, I had them on a thread on a different account that appears to have been deleted. The second I find them I'll post them.
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So I'm having a hard time getting edits to actually work. I was on CM13 at the time and I'm currently on RR, but it might just be my location (on vacation). But for those who wanna try, here are the edits:
lteOnCdmaDevice=1
to.telephony.default_network=11
There were a few more concerning GSM and CDMA operator numbers, but those seem to have no effect. You might also have to fiddle around in the cellular data settings and change from Global to LTE.
One thing is for sure - these won't work on Oxygen OS. I can't get a lock on 4G on Oxygen no matter how hard I try.
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thanks for your effort!
but that doesn't solve the issue, as the problem is not with connecting to LTE network but the LTE network being on an unsupported band.
forcing LTE will only leave my phone with no signal at all...
is there any way, instead of enabling locked bands, to change the region of the phone?
meaning, i don't mind losing the US bands if i can gain the EU bands.
so is there a way to completely change a OP3 from US version to EU version? so that no band unlocking needs to take place?
Joining the request. I have the same problem: missing band 3 on the US version.
Joining the request as well. I have de A3000 Chinese version and I need to enable Band 4 for Latin America
Joining the request, too. my country is covered by bands 3.
A3000
Yeah well I'm joining in.
Whoever makes a working NV/rmt/whatever patch for 64bit devices get a cookie from me. Or at least, find another way to prevent the device from resetting the NV edits we make. I got the North American OnePlus 3 and it's the one that doesn't support Band 3 (1800MHz) which my country's 4G connection runs at.
Rebooting resets whatever NV edits we make and even on CM it does that as well. I wouldn't mind staying on HSPAP but in a couple of years that might be just obsolete.
To any developer that's interested in doing this, I'm your guinea pig, just PM me and I can test anything for you.
So I was looking to buy various HTC phones in different colors. I saw some places online selling the HTC M8 in about 6 different colors: Blue, Gold , Gray, Pink, Red, and Silver. The problem is that as far as I have seen, this phone only comes officially in Gold, Gray, and Silver (at least in the USA). And I've see reviews of others buying in the other three colors stating that the phones were knockoffs or fake. Does anyone know if there is a legitimate GSM version of this phone in Red for the USA? If so, where can I purchase it?
Thanks.
If you mean, a GSM version intended for US (AT&T or T-Mobile) than no, there were no red version ever released (only red Verizon M8 variant). There was a red version released in UK, which would be GSM. But you would probably need to s-off the device, change CID and firmware in order to have correct band support on either of the two US networks. And doing this can be problematic (you may not have LTE support). May not be worthwhile effort, just to get a red casing.
redpoint73 said:
If you mean, a GSM version intended for US (AT&T or T-Mobile) than no, there were no red version ever released (only red Verizon M8 variant). There was a red version released in UK, which would be GSM. But you would probably need to s-off the device, change CID and firmware in order to have correct band support on either of the two US networks. And doing this can be problematic (you may not have LTE support). May not be worthwhile effort, just to get a red casing.
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That's what I figured but wasn't completely sure since sometimes different variants get released and are not so well known. So there is a UK version in red that is legitamate? And yeah, that's a lot of work, but if it does work I'm willing to do it.
The5thSurvivor said:
So there is a UK version in red that is legitamate? And yeah, that's a lot of work, but if it does work I'm willing to do it.
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Yes, it's legitimate: https://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_m8_now_available_in_red_and_pink_color_options-news-9132.php
But it seems like a weird tradeoff to (most likely) lose LTE just for a red phone. I usually get a case for my phone anyway (although I know lots of folks don't), so a red case is a much easier solution!
redpoint73 said:
Yes, it's legitimate: https://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_m8_now_available_in_red_and_pink_color_options-news-9132.php
But it seems like a weird tradeoff to (most likely) lose LTE just for a red phone. I usually get a case for my phone anyway (although I know lots of folks don't), so a red case is a much easier solution!
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Thanks for the confirmation.
Hmmm, what about an actual shell replacement in different colors? Do those exist? Haven't seen them for sale anywhere.
The5thSurvivor said:
Hmmm, what about an actual shell replacement in different colors? Do those exist? Haven't seen them for sale anywhere.
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I've heard of folks swapping the back covers (and the front pieces are just inserts, so they seem easy to remove/replace). So I think replacement certainly exist, but I don't know about red ones. Especially since the red version is a pretty obscure variant, to begin with.
Following website has a full teardown of the M8. Obviously, you aren't doing all that, but it does show how to remove the back cover and front pieces: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+(M8)+Teardown/23615
Personally, I try to stay away from taking apart these devices. I've had a bad history of taking apart electronic devices, going back to iPod days. You'll see some folks around these forums swear it's easy (taking these phones apart). But even though I'm an engineer, and a generally careful person; something always seems to go wrong and I end up making the device worse than it started! Scratched up casing on the devices, is one problem I always seem to get. Although if you are replacing the casing anyway, maybe this is a moot point. I also see a lot of reports of folks taking apart these phones, and then one thing or another not working properly when they re-assemble (breaking the ribbon cables is common). You may have better luck, but just wanted to throw that out there.
redpoint73 said:
But you would probably need to s-off the device, change CID and firmware in order to have correct band support on either of the two US networks. And doing this can be problematic (you may not have LTE support).
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So doing this can definitely allow per se, the European version of a phone to work in the USA at least with H or H+ and possibly LTE?
I ask because I had purchased a blue M7 and it was the European international version. Out of the box it was already with S-Off, Super CID, but couldn't get 3G or 4G, just 2G with T-Mobile and no signal with AT&T. I didn't change the firmware though.
The5thSurvivor said:
So doing this can definitely allow per se, the European version of a phone to work in the USA at least with H or H+ and possibly LTE?
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Changing firmware (and therefore radio baseband) should get you 3G. I hesitate to say "definitely" since that is somewhat of a dangerous word when working with these devices! But I am pretty confident that 3G would not be a problem.
LTE is another story. Lots of folks on this forum have had problems getting LTE service after "converting" to the proper radio (which support the LTE bands used by their local carrier). So I'm pretty skeptical on LTE, and I wouldn't count on getting it. Get the M8 version intended for your carrier, to guarantee LTE connectivity.
The5thSurvivor said:
I ask because I had purchased a blue M7 and it was the European international version. Out of the box it was already with S-Off, Super CID, but couldn't get 3G or 4G, just 2G with T-Mobile and no signal with AT&T. I didn't change the firmware though.
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T-Mobile uses Bands 2 (1900) and 4 (AWS or 1700/2100) for 3G. From what I can tell, the Euro version M7 should support 3G band 2 (although I don't know much about that device, never owned it) and from what I understand, T-Mobile migrated 3G service to Band 2 in most areas. But if your area is still using AWS when you tried the M7, it would explain why 3G didn't work (Euro M7 doesn't support AWS band on 3G).
AT&T uses bands 850, 1900 and 2100 for 3G. All of which should be supported on the Euro M7, from what I can tell. And even if you didn't have 3G, you should at least have gotten 2G and voice service. So I think something else was going wrong there, besides band support.
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Changing firmware (and therefore radio baseband) should get you 3G. I hesitate to say "definitely" since that is somewhat of a dangerous word when working with these devices! But I am pretty confident that 3G would not be a problem.
LTE is another story. Lots of folks on this forum have had problems getting LTE service after "converting" to the proper radio (which support the LTE bands used by their local carrier). So I'm pretty skeptical on LTE, and I wouldn't count on getting it. Get the M8 version intended for your carrier, to guarantee LTE connectivity.
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I see. I wish every region would just use the same bands everywhere. It sucks to have the phone you want but can't get LTE even though the device has support for LTE. I've been looking where to get the specific HTC phones that I want new, but the only people selling them new still are all overseas with either the European, Australian, or Asian variants. I'd love to buy an M7, M8, and M9 for the USA brand new.
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T-Mobile uses Bands 2 (1900) and 4 (AWS or 1700/2100) for 3G. From what I can tell, the Euro version M7 should support 3G band 2 (although I don't know much about that device, never owned it) and from what I understand, T-Mobile migrated 3G service to Band 2 in most areas. But if your area is still using AWS when you tried the M7, it would explain why 3G didn't work (Euro M7 doesn't support AWS band on 3G
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I'm in NYC. Out of the box, my Euro M7 only gets EDGE with T-Mobile. Just came came across this. It pretty much explains what you said as to why 3G didn't work.
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AT&T uses bands 850, 1900 and 2100 for 3G. All of which should be supported on the Euro M7, from what I can tell. And even if you didn't have 3G, you should at least have gotten 2G and voice service. So I think something else was going wrong there, besides band support.
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With AT&T, my Euro M7 gets no signal. 2G doesn't work since AT&T shut down their 2G. I was very surprised that 3G didn't work with AT&T at all. But as you mentioned, perhaps changing firmware will get 3G working hopefully.
The5thSurvivor said:
I see. I wish every region would just use the same bands everywhere. It sucks to have the phone you want but can't get LTE even though the device has support for LTE.
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It's massively complicated, since frequencies are divided up by every type of radio transmitter used by mankind. Many of which existing before cell phones were invented. Add to that, the fact that the US carriers compete with each other for purchase of said bands, instead of just all using the same ones (which happens in many other countries) and yes, you have a huge mess.
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With AT&T, my Euro M7 gets no signal. 2G doesn't work since AT&T shut down their 2G.
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Wow, AT&T is my carrier, and I didn't even realize that happened! I've taken it for granted for so long, that I can just throw my SIM in any phone (as long as it is unlocked) and at least have voice and 2G work.
I learned something today!
Yeah, that is a huge mess. And I found out earlier this year myself that AT&T had discontinued their 2G January of last year. T-Mobile will follow suit next year and then Verizon the year after.