Why did they remove drive letter access and cripple the phone with this MTP crap?
It took me 30 seconds to copy my pictures from my Droid Incredible via drive letter, and now it's taking upwards of 20 minutes to copy them over to the Nexus.
This is completely absurd...
DeaconBoogie said:
Why did they remove drive letter access and cripple the phone with this MTP crap?
It took me 30 seconds to copy my pictures from my Droid Incredible via drive letter, and now it's taking upwards of 20 minutes to copy them over to the Nexus.
This is completely absurd...
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Copying a files to/from my Galaxy Nexus takes no time at all. Much faster file transfer than on my previous phone and USB drive. Have you tried removing the driver and installing the naked samsung drivers?
DeaconBoogie said:
Why did they remove drive letter access and cripple the phone with this MTP crap?
It took me 30 seconds to copy my pictures from my Droid Incredible via drive letter, and now it's taking upwards of 20 minutes to copy them over to the Nexus.
This is completely absurd...
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And yet I'm having the exact opposite experience; on both a desktop PC and MacBook Pro with Android File Transfer, the performance of the Galaxy Nexus' filesystem has been miles ahead of the 8GB Class 10 MicroSD card I had in my previous device.
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And yet I'm having the exact opposite experience; on both a desktop PC and MacBook Pro with Android File Transfer, the performance of the Galaxy Nexus' filesystem has been miles ahead of the 8GB Class 10 MicroSD card I had in my previous device.
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I can't get the android file transfer to work on my mac. I download the dmg file and drag to applications, but it stil doesn't read my device. Am I doing something wrong? Can you shd some light for me?
And here comes the flood of "im not happy" threads.
You should have known it was MTP before you purchased it. Not trying to start an e-flame but just sayin'.
My connection always messes up, all my music got deleted last night. I'm having trouble copying music over. I'm ditching the stock ROM asap, hopefully one of the custom ROMs has mass storage.
I have to agree, I've hated MTP since the WinXP days when I first hooked up a camera directly. Had tons of corrupted files during transfers so I switched to taking out the memory cards and accessing them with USB readers.
Even now with the nexus I have trouble with files not even showing up properly in explorer but are clearly there when I use a file manager on the phone itself.
I copied a 500mb film from my pc to my phone in no-time. Must be your pc that causes the problem.
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I'm not sure why everybody needs to install stuff. I plugged the phone into my MBP and it popped up the contents. Plugged it into my W7 gaming machine and it popped up the contents.
Transfer times were the same, or faster, as they are on my Galaxy S II and Rezound.
Then again, unless it's more than 3-5 files I just use WiFi File Explorer. Fantastic way to transfer files to/from. Definitely worth the $.99 for the full version (demo only allows downloading *from* phone, not uploading to).
It's a trade-off. This way we can use the entire storage space. Just one big partition where all your apps and app data go. No more "internal storage" vs "external storage."
Mtp is very slow and makes windows crash.
sblantipodi said:
Mtp is very slow and makes windows crash.
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Maybe on your PC.
Everything works fine here with MTP, even better than Mass Storage before...
I love whatever they did. On my Thunderbolt, it would take a long time to copy files, but with the GN, it's as fast as anything! Not to mention I don't have to screw with turning on the phone, turning on USB, doing my work, turning the phone on, turning off USB, etc.
It's always on, available, and awesome!
I find that I have a lot better luck with my windows 7 machine than I do with my Vista machine.
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I'm having better luck with the good 'ol console.
adb push has been outperforming MTP for me.
So does MTP mean there's nothing to "eject" and you just pull the plug out of the phone?
Not on my PC it doesn't.
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So does MTP mean there's nothing to "eject" and you just pull the plug out of the phone?
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Yes there's no "eject" at all, because the system isn't actually mounted like it is in USB mass storage. Meaning you can still interact with the files on your phone when you're transferring to/from the phone.
I just transferred a 5.00GB mkv file in 16 minutes. That's roughly 5.2MB/sec. *Shrug*.
I'd prefer USB Mass Storage...
Anyone else notice that the pc's volume goes down when the device is unplugged?
I have Pandora playing on Win7 and unplugging the phone causes the volume for Pandora to drop. This is noticeable in the Volume Mixer.
Just picked up my nexus last night and i must say i love it! i was able to take everything from my Droid INC and get it onto my computer. When i hook up my nexus to the computer to transfer pictures and videos over my computer freezes. Even if it try to do 1 at a time. But when i transfer over apk files i can send a whole bunch and it doesnt freeze. Any ideas?
Just picked up my nexus last night and i must say i love it! i was able to take everything from my Droid INC and get it onto my computer. When i hook up my nexus to the computer to transfer pictures and videos over my computer freezes. Even if it try to do 1 at a time. But when i transfer over apk files i can send a whole bunch and it doesnt freeze. Any ideas?
it's a bug, will be fixed with future update
for now, use airdroid, is awesome
do i download that in the market?
yeah sorry, here it is: http://goo.gl/Eos1u
Im having issues getting files from my phone to my computer, i did it before and when i did it i went to "my computer" and pretty sure it said samsung and i got the files i wanted on the computer, no i go in and it says blackberry, which the sd card came from a BB, i go in and it just gives me old pictures and videos nothing newer on it and not showing my new videos... wtf am i doing?? I connect the phone via usb and turn on mass storage.... then my computer asks what i want to use to open and i use microsoft pic manager.... i remember this being a hell lot easier in the past whats changed?
Sorry for a kinda double post, as ive posted this in the noob thread, but I think its being overlooked.
When connecting to a PC, how can I get a normal file transfer mode?? the media mode is just too limiting, one file at a time, transfer with no ETA, cannot browse picture folders with image viewers.. "this file cannot be played are you sure you want to copy it" blah blah blah...
I'm sure on my old HTC sensation as well as media mode you had file mode.. but I cannot find it and I don't have usb 3.1 on my laptop only 3.0 so hopefully that's not the answer..
please help.. mostly after getting at my SD card without removing it from the phone as I can never find the "proddy thing".. not fussed if I need to install a third party app or other... but currently on stock EU rom non-rooted.
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Sorry for a kinda double post, as ive posted this in the noob thread, but I think its being overlooked.
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... im not sure if i can help you really. What is the operating system you are using there? MTP works for me in Linux aswell as with Win 10.
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When connecting to a PC, how can I get a normal file transfer mode??
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When connecting to a PC it should pop up a question about how you want to use the connection. So select Filetransfer and trust it with "Yes". And that s it basically. You can also find this in the notification bar... eh about what to use USB for.
Also be sure to have suiting drivers. IIRC they should be installed with HTC Sync Manager. Maybe installing HTC Sync Manager would fix your issues already?
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I'm sure on my old HTC sensation as well as media mode you had file mode.. but I cannot find it
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How old? I think this special mode you refer to was removed some Android releases ago already. Nowadays theres MTP. By all this speed of that USB ports nowadays intention seems to be initially that you do not have to unmount it in order to get all that stuffs you knew from past. I remember when my ONE-S got a update suddenly in past where exactly this step to MTP happened. Since the USB2 hardware in this old phone was a bit older and worse it became slower than before. Many ppl had been looking for a fix for this, since you could not enable it like it was before. IIRC one solution was to use a custom ROM. I can not recommend using a custom ROM personally.
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and I don't have usb 3.1 on my laptop only 3.0 so hopefully that's not the answer..
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No it is not. I m also having a 3.0. Still at least with marshmellow you would have to enable the fast file transfer with 3.1 explicitly in the case you really have such port on your Computer. And still theres some influences and things to consider to get optimum bandwidth.
But a 3.0 connection is usually not as crappy as you describe it now. So i would sugguest you:
- I assume a driver bad.
- Or Faulty cable.
- Maybe some setting in your file browser on the computer?
- Is the preview disabled maybe?
- Latest drivers for the phone? (HTC Sync Manager)
At very first i would try to get latest HTC Sync Manager for HTC10 from HTC website. Or if you are in linux, check your packages, udev rules and that MTP gets rolling.
Hope this helps a bit.
PS.: Try connect your Phone to another computer with maybe Windows 10 and latest HTC Sync Manager. Just to exclude that your computer or its software might cause this issue.
Thanks for the reply, my "old" htc was probably 6+years ago.. I think it was my first android phone, Recently I have been using LG G3 running cyanogenmod, so have always had a proper "file mode".. it was just like plugging in an external hard drive. I did not realise this was not a feature anymore in standard android.
The main problem I dislike is not being able to view pictures... If I open one picture from my phone or SDcard, then my picture browswer says viewing picture 1/1 even if the folder has 200 pictures in it, I cannot space/tab through the pictures, I have to close that one, then open the next.... I do find it frustrating only being able to copy one file at a time, and constantly having to tell it that I do want to copy the file despite not being able to play it, but those things I can live with.
I already have tried installing extra software and on windows 7, (I am running W10) but no luck
It just sounds like they want you to remove the SD card.. shame they make it so impossible to do.. I'll continue to hunt for a solution without custom rom.. and post any findings.
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cyanogenmod, so have always had a proper "file mode".. it was just like plugging in an external hard drive. I did not realise this was not a feature anymore in standard android.
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Yes! I think this i why they kept (keep) it alive.
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The main problem I dislike is not being able to view pictures... If I open one picture from my phone or SDcard, then my picture browswer says viewing picture 1/1 even if the folder has 200 pictures in it, I cannot space/tab through the pictures, I have to close that one, then open the next.... I do find it frustrating only being able to copy one file at a time, and constantly having to tell it that I do want to copy the file despite not being able to play it, but those things I can live with.
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How is it. How do you think about an alternative way to transfer data like e.g. from playstore Air Droid using WLAN.
Did you try another data cable, by all ports and operating systems?
And just in case. Do both of your computers feature the same USB drivers and hub? Maybe a driver issue.
I noticed one thing recently. When i connect with MTP and copy lets say: "400 MB pictures" taken with my old phone, spread on 97 files to the SD card it does not take long. But what takes long like 20 seconds after copying is done is that it shows previews. I have to really wait until it is done transferring.
So could it be maybe the case your phone does not finish somehow?
And yes the Windows Photo thingie does not see it as folder to slide through.
Meaning: i can not deny your issues fully.
Honestly what i totally love is an Plasma Desktop for linux is an software which called KDE Connect. You get WLAN connection to your phone and can even control the mouse. Do simple file transfers. And what i totally love about it is, is that it almost seemingless integrates into the Desktop. On the other End i think WIN10 does not feature such service (stock). Air Droid is one of those tools in this way which you can expand the computer expirience with. The preview and copying over WLAN is blazing fast. Plus you do not have to connect the cable.
But it requires a client/server and permissions on both ends. And thats what i dislike about the Windows side. It is not so seemless. And it is in the way of one of those extra services, running.
Also the speed of the SD card does in fact matter. Is it maybe one of the older generations you inserted?
The new SD's from this year are much faster and bigger.
E.g. read about SD card speed classes SDXC class U1, U2 and U3
Even if you can push 1 GiB /s through a cable.... if the SD only takes 96 mib/s...... lol
Maybe interesting to have a look at what about capacity / price is happening in 6 years.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10315/market-views-hdd-shipments-down-q1-2016/3
So lets say you was using a 6 years old SD.
Your phone is worth (lets say 600 $) but the SD is not worth any cent. In case the SD was so old.
This is how Android now is.
What you're looking for is USB Mass Storage mode. They removed that because it was a wide security hole where someone could just plug your phone into a computer and copy all your storage and mess things up at will. Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) is all Android has now. Your phone memory doesn't just have your photos and music on it; it also has your apps, logins, systems files, etc.
The "file cannot be played" prompt that bothers you can be disabled in Windows. Just do a Google search on that. As for transfer speed, I'll bet you that it's a bad cable and nothing more. MTP isn't slower than UMS.
Good luck.
Thanks also.
I didn't mean to imply it's slow transfer. By limiting I mean it's holding me back. I like to transferr a 20GB video, and while it's doing it, go to my pics and view+sort them etc. But now I cannot. One at a time. Zzzzz..
It sounds like I will either need to investigate lineage again. (I'm unsure at this stage what I loose if I do, camera apps, mirror cast etc). Or perhaps buy a hand full of "proddy things" so I can more easily remove the SD card. I can never find it when I need it.
Thanks for helping me get my head around this alien tech/systems. I feel I understand now what's happening and why.