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I have a project I am working on which I would need a way of making my phone (SGS3) send a sort of signal to an NFC receiver by just touching the receiver, this will trigger a number of processes on the PIC. My question is whether an NFC receiver is ready to buy and whether there are any datasheets. Also I would like for the phone to only need to touch, no other operation needed.
If you could point me in the right direction I would really appreciate it. Also since I am doing this for school there really is no budget but if the price is too high I may use something else. So yeah if you know any GOOD manufacturers of NFC receivers that would be great.
Thanks
Well, you might need a complete reader chip that can handle peer-to-peer mode. Might be hard to get one. I guess what your doing is building a microcontroller (PIC?). And youd have to build the chip into your controller and write some sort of driver for it. If that should be a small school project, I'd say rather do something else (if school = university and you actually have a lot of time, may try it). Though I haven't seen a company that sells them in low numbers.
Maybe its more suitable to add a complete nfc capable reader to it? Check libnfc for some example readers that are not to expensive.
Damastus said:
Well, you might need a complete reader chip that can handle peer-to-peer mode. Might be hard to get one. I guess what your doing is building a microcontroller (PIC?). And youd have to build the chip into your controller and write some sort of driver for it. If that should be a small school project, I'd say rather do something else (if school = university and you actually have a lot of time, may try it). Though I haven't seen a company that sells them in low numbers.
Maybe its more suitable to add a complete nfc capable reader to it? Check libnfc for some example readers that are not to expensive.
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Yeah so i want to have nfc receiver as a peripheral device for a dev board. Its high school. Also my teacher told me to use bluetooth but i feel it will be difficult to write a program to interface with it. So basically this device will feel the presence of my phone by nfc and send signal to pic. So it only needs it be like a switch action. You see the phone does not need to send any data. So simply this device has nfc receiver coil on it and when phone comes it will be either 0=no phone and 1=phone present which will trigger the pic to carry out other proccesses. Can you tell me what component i would need?
Adafruit.com has everything you need for that project. I have my s3 working with a ras pi and nfc breakout board. They even write a lot of there own drivers, but they have examples of libnfc code working with there controllers.
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Anyone know if an RS232 cable is available for the Jasjar yet or have I got to use one of these awful RS232/USB convertors?
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did you ever get a lead that worked ? I can't find one and I'm trying to work out if I can hack my old IPAQ one up. cheers
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Anyone know if an RS232 cable is available for the Jasjar yet or have I got to use one of these awful RS232/USB convertors?
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A converter isn't going to work. They all require a USB Host port.
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also interested into this old fashionned but necessary tool to console to routers for example.
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I am interested also.
I was thinking about this a while back though. I think the only way this is going to work really is through a bluetooth or IR adapter.
Obviously those would require external power. Doing it with an IR adapter should be relatively easy to program, something along the lines of a PIC 16F64 or 18F452 would be more than enough. However, would it be usable? When controlling a router I would like to use the keyboard. The IR points dirctly towards the user.
However, I have little experience in how BT works, so would not be able to even think on how that would work.
Gareth
coldpenguin said:
I am interested also.
I was thinking about this a while back though. I think the only way this is going to work really is through a bluetooth or IR adapter.
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Perhaps this might point you in the right direction...
http://home.tiscali.nl/~t_aalberts/index.htm
Its a guide to making a GPS IRDA but I'm sure it could be suitably modified.
Bluetooth to usb
How about this: http://www.neteon.net/cat.aspx?clvl=3&c1=1&c2=177&c3=107
It's a serial to Bluetooth dongle. I don't see any WM drivers but I would think that the bluetooth stack on the latest "cooked" ROMS would support serial host since that is what most bluetooth GPS receivers use.
If it wheren't for the $108 price tag I would grab one of these myself and see if it worked.
Maybe in a few weeks. If someone else gets a chance to try this one, please post here and let us know.
I'm looking for a reasonably priced, short-to-medium range Bluetooth dongle for my PC. It seems there are hundreds, nay, thousands of offerings on fleabay, Amazon, you name it.
What I've gathered is a lot of them have CSR Bluecore chipsets. Or falsely identify themselves as such. The second thing I've gathered is that lots of them are just the hardware, with no software (or include crap like BlueSoleil, or trial versions).
I want to use the device with a pair of A2DP stereo headphones, and possibly other stuff like OBEX, whatever else it might support.
I'm really in the dark here -- it looks like a crapshoot. When you Google for reviews, it's the usual drivel. When I search the forums here, there are some rather old posts (2004?!) but nothing I see that's relevant.
Does anyone have a good experience with a $20 or less Bluetooth 2.0 EDR dongle for USB? If so, please let me know! Thanks in advance.
This is the one I have. You can also look into this one.
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This is the one I have. You can also look into this one.
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Those are exactly the form factors I've been looking at. Small enough to just pop into a USB port and look integrated with the machine. Though I worry that small = less powerful = compromise.
What does it enumerates itself as, a CSR chipset? I'm assuming you got it working with A2DP okay. I looked at their product page and it says it's driverless... unless you want to use A2DP, in which case they provide a driver.
It's strange that the one withouta driver CD is more expensive -- wonder if that means it's a more capable/more expensive chipset?
The latest bluesoleil is very good. Try the trial, as I have found it gives complete functionality to the cheapest of dongles.
I would get a newer one which used broadcom software
ms is missing a lot of profiles
toshiba seems unstable
never messed with other stacks
Is it possible to connect an external hard drive to the Touch Pro 2, even if it requires buying an extra dongle or something?
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Is it possible to connect an external hard drive to the Touch Pro 2, even if it requires buying an extra dongle or something?
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No, it is not possible.
I don't know, I wouldn't say a definate 'no', maybe more of a 'not at the moment' - but I'm afraid most probably unlikely as many experienced developers/cooks have moved from the TP2. I was very surprised that my old HTC Universal was capable of this (as in, the hardware supported it - it was working with android).
Possible? Maybe. Practical? Not likely.
Even if the hardware inside supports it then someone will have to invest the effort to make the software use that capability. That seems unlikely at this point in the product's life cycle but we can hope there's a TP2/Tilt2 zealot out there with the time and know how to accomplish a host mode driver.
So as cajunflavoredbob said (but in more words....) - nope, not possible.
If you're just trying to move data around then there are other ways to accomplish that....
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I don't know, I wouldn't say a definate 'no', maybe more of a 'not at the moment' - but I'm afraid most probably unlikely as many experienced developers/cooks have moved from the TP2. I was very surprised that my old HTC Universal was capable of this (as in, the hardware supported it - it was working with android).
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So it works on the HTC Universal? What all does it entail? Do you have to do a bunch of stuff to make it work or does it just work out of the box? Also, does it work in WinMo too or just Android on the Universal?
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Possible? Maybe. Practical? Not likely.
Even if the hardware inside supports it then someone will have to invest the effort to make the software use that capability. That seems unlikely at this point in the product's life cycle but we can hope there's a TP2/Tilt2 zealot out there with the time and know how to accomplish a host mode driver.
So as cajunflavoredbob said (but in more words....) - nope, not possible.
If you're just trying to move data around then there are other ways to accomplish that....
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Well what I am trying to do is find a way to play music from an external hard drive in my car. And easily take it from my car, to my motorhome when we go on a long road trip. The easiest way I can think of is to have a device like a laptop that will host the hard drive and play the music. The laptop's headphone output would then connect to my stereo's aux input. I would much rather use a phone though, so I am trying to find a phone that will do it.
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So it works on the HTC Universal? What all does it entail? Do you have to do a bunch of stuff to make it work or does it just work out of the box? Also, does it work in WinMo too or just Android on the Universal?
Well what I am trying to do is find a way to play music from an external hard drive in my car. And easily take it from my car, to my motorhome when we go on a long road trip. The easiest way I can think of is to have a device like a laptop that will host the hard drive and play the music. The laptop's headphone output would then connect to my stereo's aux input. I would much rather use a phone though, so I am trying to find a phone that will do it.
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Wow.... you must have one hell of a lot of music if it takes more than 16G (sdcard) to store it, but then I'm not that big of an MP3 guy. If it was me I think I'd just use a cheap netbook off craigslist powered with a small inverter, wouldn't cost a lot more than a phone and not that much bigger. Or maybe an iPod classic, they go up over 150G for a couple hundred bucks. You may want to try googling "carputer" too, might give you some ideas?
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So it works on the HTC Universal? What all does it entail? Do you have to do a bunch of stuff to make it work or does it just work out of the box? Also, does it work in WinMo too or just Android on the Universal?
Well what I am trying to do is find a way to play music from an external hard drive in my car. And easily take it from my car, to my motorhome when we go on a long road trip. The easiest way I can think of is to have a device like a laptop that will host the hard drive and play the music. The laptop's headphone output would then connect to my stereo's aux input. I would much rather use a phone though, so I am trying to find a phone that will do it.
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Basically, the Universal had the capability to begin with. There are no hardware drivers for the Rhodium to enable this function. This means they would need to be written from the ground up. If you know someone would could do this, then the community would be grateful, but as it stands, this isn't a function you will get from the Rhodium. As was suggested above me, an iPod classic with a 160GB hard drive is the most portable solution we could afford you.
I want to know if its possible to read my contactless work ID card with my phone and then use the phone as my ID by tapping it to the reader.
I don't know if this is even possible and my question isnt about the Nexus as much as it is about My ID card, but if anyone can help me figure out what kind of ID card I have and how that would or wouldnt work with the hardware in the Nexus, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks.
There is some sort of chip in your ID or is just a bar code you're trying to scan?
Jmurph3 said:
There is some sort of chip in your ID or is just a bar code you're trying to scan?
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Some sort of chip. I tap the card to the reader in the elevator and at the front door to the office.
I don't even need to tap the card directly, I keep the card in my wallet and tap my wallet to the reader and it picks it up fine.
Let me know if I can provide any more info.
Thanks
I can't think of anyway to extract the information from the chip, but you could always cut the chip out and tape it inside the battery door. I wouldn't think anything would interfere with the chip, but I guess would might need to have an undamaged ID card.
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I can't think of anyway to extract the information from the chip, but you could always cut the chip out and tape it inside the battery door. I wouldn't think anything would interfere with the chip, but I guess would might need to have an undamaged ID card.
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Yeah, that wouldn't work, it doubles as a picture ID as well so I would need to keep it undamaged.
I've seen apps that read and store data when tapped with a credit card, so I was hoping someone would be able to provide similar info for how to do it with an ID card. I don't know enough about the different NFC and RFID technologies and what the nexus is capable of. Was hoping someone on here might be able to help.
Check out this thread from a few months ago. People came to the conclusion that it isn't possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1368907
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Yeah, that wouldn't work, it doubles as a picture ID as well so I would need to keep it undamaged.
I've seen apps that read and store data when tapped with a credit card, so I was hoping someone would be able to provide similar info for how to do it with an ID card. I don't know enough about the different NFC and RFID technologies and what the nexus is capable of. Was hoping someone on here might be able to help.
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From what I understand, data that's on most RFID cards is encrypted and the NFC antenna on the Galaxy Nexus (and Nexus S) is not currently capable of interpreting the data. It certainly seems that the possibility is there though seeing as how they usually operate on the 13.56 MHz frequency.
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El Daddy said:
Check out this thread from a few months ago. People came to the conclusion that it isn't possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1368907
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Thanks, that's a big help...indeed doesn't seem possible, at least not yet.
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Thanks, that's a big help...indeed doesn't seem possible, at least not yet.
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I posted this on another thread, but I think it is worth it here also. HID is beta testing using NFC technology for card access with Blackberry devices. Youtube HID Global Pilot Arizona State. NFC uses 13.56Mhz frequency. The HID iClass readers should work ONCE HID gives the customer the ability to get the software used to tether the phone to your computer and connect to the "secure" part of the Android OS and create a credential. It is coming. Just waiting on HID Global to make it happen.
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I posted this on another thread, but I think it is worth it here also. HID is beta testing using NFC technology for card access with Blackberry devices. Youtube HID Global Pilot Arizona State. NFC uses 13.56Mhz frequency. The HID iClass readers should work ONCE HID gives the customer the ability to get the software used to tether the phone to your computer and connect to the "secure" part of the Android OS and create a credential. It is coming. Just waiting on HID Global to make it happen.
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Thanks, cool video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VqnOiA20wg) for those that don't want to search.
I hope that will become available for the rest of us at some point.
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Thanks, cool video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VqnOiA20wg) for those that don't want to search.
I hope that will become available for the rest of us at some point.
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Glad it helped. Hit me up on the thanks meter if you don't mind. I'm trying to get some credibility here.
Hey guys. What I would like to ask is would it be possible to create another card for myself to school so I don't have to take my card out every time i can just use an NFC tag sticked to the back of my phone. I cannot find an answer to this and I would really like an expert to answer it. Preferable you developer guys. All i want to achieve is read the info of card then just write the read info to an NFC tag.
Thank you so much!
Sorry, it's a MIFARE Classic card MF1S50
Give this a try: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skjolberg.nfc.clone2
Yeah i tried Tag Cloner before sadly it says it's unsupported
if its mifare classic and you have a modern phone it wont work.
the broadcom chipset used in phones like the samsung s4, nexus 5 etc, doesnt support mifare classic/s50.
try on an older device
you may ave to clone the UID though, send milkyzone a message on ebay and they might be able to get you fully blank cards that you can change the UID of....
you might wanna check with your school though if youre allowed to do this
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if its mifare classic and you have a modern phone it wont work.
the broadcom chipset used in phones like the samsung s4, nexus 5 etc, doesnt support mifare classic/s50.
try on an older device
you may ave to clone the UID though, send milkyzone a message on ebay and they might be able to get you fully blank cards that you can change the UID of....
you might wanna check with your school though if you're allowed to do this
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Hey, well I have an LG G2 so it most likely doesn't have the NXP chip. Yeah the thing is i'd want to use my phone as the card reader for cloning, not sure if that would work. I was thinking of the NFC tools in Kali and booting that from my phone so maybe then it would recognize the reader, not sure though. Yeah I heard of the fully blank cards I was more concerned about doing it without buying an NFC reader for my PC. Yeah haha school might nit allow it but my goal is to just be able to do it haha, the sense of achievement.
Would i be able to write MiFare Classic cards with my phone using Kali? Or does the writing capability depend on the card? Cuz for sure my phone detects it as i used the app NFC ReTag to just assign functions depending on the UID. THanks
Simple and short answer, almost all modern Smart-phones can't read or write Mifare Classic, because they use Broadcom chips to handle NFC. And those Broadcom chips can't handle the proprietary Mifare Classic protocol from NXP. But you can try it with your computer and maybe a reader with a chip like the PN533 and libnfc.
Is it possible to clone tags to another tag. My work phone Samsung S5 mini is the reader and I have to scan the tags to say I'm at this place. My Samsung S6 Edge reads the tag type as Ultralight C, NTAG216.
Your Help would be appreciated
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Is it possible to clone tags to another tag. My work phone Samsung S5 mini is the reader and I have to scan the tags to say I'm at this place. My Samsung S6 Edge reads the tag type as Ultralight C, NTAG216.
Your Help would be appreciated
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Probably not with your phone alone. As stated above these newer phones do not have a compatible chipset. If you buy an nfc reader/writer online with the correct chipset you might be able to but its not simple especially if you have to overcome protection. Investing money in this might not be worth it especially if you are not 100% certain it will work. You can buy empty or unlocked cards on ebay they aren't too expensive but to actually write them you'd have to acquire information from the TAG with a good reader. Replaying the card with your phone is not possible.