Hey guys, just wanted to have a little Thread, where people can Post their experiences with different Performance Settings.
Please also Post on which Rom/which Kernel version you are
I think i should start...
Processorsettings:
Governour: InteractiveX
Max Frequency: 1000mHz
Min Frequency: 300mHz
I/O Scheduler: NOOP
Memory Management:
zRam: 18%
Allow purging of Assets: off
KSM: on
Battery is ok, not really having the Feeling, anything changed.
Performance is ok, but i think i gonna need to try some other settings.
Feel free to post your settings and experiences
Really guys our defy is no(!) S3 or oneX please dont expect it to be as fast as one.
Also: dont be angry at people, if their settings dont work out on your phone, there are a lot of little differences between our phones. So find your personal best and post it, so others can try it
iNTERACTIVEx
SIO
zRAm -18%
KSm-ON
,,, btw why u use NOOP ?? does it have any advantage over SIO ??
Brazilianwaz
BFQ
No other tweaks
latest SlimBean
I don't want a tapatalk sig!
Shubhamqweasd said:
iNTERACTIVEx
SIO
zRAm -18%
KSm-ON
,,, btw why u use NOOP ?? does it have any advantage over SIO ??
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I was trying a little bit, so the settings i wrote down r just for testing...
I am not sure, which one to use, so in decided To check which one fits best for me
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Interactivex
Cfq
Ksm on
Zram 18%
Feeling phone is bit snappier, also dont expect lightning speed on Defy or performance like s3 for godsake.
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nidhish91 said:
Feeling phone is bit snappier, also dont expect lightning speed on Defy or performance like s3 for godsake.
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Who sais, anyone is expecting this?
Just wanted to ask for experiences, and what for people works out, and what is not that good. Thats it.
The end of your comment seems really aggressive, if it wasnt meant that way, dont mind this, but if it was meant this way:
Whats wrong with asking what people are experiencing?
again: almost everybody in this forum, knows for sure, we dont have a high-end quadcore Phone.
Hope your having a nice day, Esok
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Brazilianwaz
BFQ
No other tweaks
latest SlimBean
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This does make my phone smooth on cm10 28 build, will try it on slimbean too!
Oh man!
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esok44 said:
Who sais, anyone is expecting this?
Just wanted to ask for experiences, and what for people works out, and what is not that good. Thats it.
The end of your comment seems really aggressive, if it wasnt meant that way, dont mind this, but if it was meant this way:
Whats wrong with asking what people are experiencing?
again: almost everybody in this forum, knows for sure, we dont have a high-end quadcore Phone.
Hope your having a nice day, Esok
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I think you are not aware of the fact that lately members have started expecting too much on this forum from defy after custom kernels came in action. after every build is released by Quarx people just keeping whining "the phone is bit slow" "perfomance is not that good" " its not fsster". So obv someone needs to give them a reality check. The aggressive end is nothing but truth. Shouldnt be hard to digest.
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nidhish91 said:
I think you are not aware of the fact that lately members have started expecting too much on this forum from defy after custom kernels came in action. after every build is released by Quarx people just keeping whining "the phone is bit slow" "perfomance is not that good" " its not fsster". So obv someone needs to give them a reality check. The aggressive end is nothing but truth. Shouldnt be hard to digest.
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I've noticed, that people are behaving like this.
It's not cool.
But what does this have to do with my thread?
Was it just like: All dudes who come here, be aware, we only have a middle class phone.
Or was it like: Dear Esok, you are to blame, cause you are thinking that way.
I like the Defy and i hope, that one day it will be possible for me to experience my defy, with cm10/cm10.1 which has an ui as fast as cm7.
But i am willing to wait for it. My experiences aren't that high, until we have 3.0 Kernel, I'm pretty sure, quarx is able to do that, but if he wont, its ok, hes a person too.
So I think, you meant other guys, with your aggressive ending and there really is nothing to argue about, isn't it?
Greetz Esok
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I think you are not aware of the fact that lately members have started expecting too much on this forum from defy after custom kernels came in action. after every build is released by Quarx people just keeping whining "the phone is bit slow" "perfomance is not that good" " its not fsster". So obv someone needs to give them a reality check. The aggressive end is nothing but truth. Shouldnt be hard to digest.
S3nt fr0m my D3fy 0n J3llyb34n
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I think you aren't aware about this simple question, its under what settings do you think your defy runs well. If people think that means we expect it to run faster then a super computer then I do not think this a place where everything has/ can be(en) spelt out. Just because one guy said it somewhere on some thread doesn't mean it applies here as well.
@esok- put up a statuary sign saying this will not make your phone a super computer, but it helps you figure out the optimum settings for your need.
@ngu I tried using your settings on jb28 with kernel 29/11 jellyx but phone was just too cranky! Tried finding one for myself but got tired after a few attempts and re flashed the quarx kernel
Maybe should try it on slim!!
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sUpErwHoO said:
@esok- put up a statuary sign saying this will not make your phone a super computer, but it helps you figure out the optimum settings for your need.
@ngu I tried using your settings on jb28 with kernel 29/11 jellyx but phone was just too cranky! Tried finding one for myself but got tired after a few attempts and re flashed the quarx kernel
Maybe should try it on slim!!
Sent by an alien.
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Thanks superwhoo, wrote it in OP, so people can understand better
Btw: At the Moment i am on 28th jellyx and 28cmx using brazilianwax and bfs... is supersnappy, but i get lots of freezes and reboots, thinking about going back too.
Quarx kernel is really More stable isnt it?
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This thread...
It needs less PMSing and more talking about the settings.
Interactive.
zRam 18%
KSM On
300/550/850/1200
Running good.
BTW, the person who said that the Defy is a 'middle class' phone, let me just enlighten you that the Defy was mediocre 1 year back.
Today, it's just plain and simple antiquated.
InteractiveX, bfs, overcolcked 1200. I m in cmx 28/11, jelly X 3/12. Awesome performance with no reboots also great battery standby.
sent from jelly powered defy with jelly X 3/12 kernel
Using Savagedzen and SIO with zram disabled and I got the best quadrant result till now
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my settings:
smartass
sio
zram 18%
ksm on
battery life is nornal, phone is fast.
tried interactivex, my phone froze like every 10 minutes.
sent from my jellybean defy...
Cmx 28/11 with jelly X 3/12 . Interactive X,bfs, OC 1200,zram and ksm disabled. Awesome lag free performance with great battery stand by
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Hi,
Im trying to get a bit of rock ´n roll out of my Defy+ thru serious overclocking,
im running MS2Ginger 3.0 at the moment that doesnt seem to be the perfect rom for getting great speeds, but it works.
Been running 1350Mhz for a while which seems to work rather good, going to 1400 makes my Defy more sluggish than a led slug. So that doesnt work, atleast not for what i can see.
The problem i see is when running Quadrant benchmarks, i only get numbers around 300 on the 2D test, is that normal?
Can someone tell me about a rom that could make me roll even faster and higher up in the result lists of Quadrant benchmark?
Regards.
So 214 views and nobody knows anything? Sounds impoosible on this forum
Don't know much about fast ROMs but everybody brags about CM7, of course. Also there are some people who claim Mokee os (CM7 Based) is the fastest. Check them out and let us know what you find out
Anyway, they say Quadrant isn't everything.
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fiskenigaten said:
Anyway, they say Quadrant isn't everything.
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exactly...
if you want fast delete all apps except for system ones...
& lob it off a tall building ^^ :chortle:
fiskenigaten said:
Don't know much about fast ROMs but everybody brags about CM7, of course. Also there are some people who claim Mokee os (CM7 Based) is the fastest. Check them out and let us know what you find out
Anyway, they say Quadrant isn't everything.
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Ok thanks for the advice, i'll check them out and post some kind of measurments
King_Rat said:
exactly...
if you want fast delete all apps except for system ones...
& lob it off a tall building ^^ :chortle:
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Ok they say the Defy is a rugged phone but hell knows if that would be healthy for it. But as they say it aint the speed that kills its suddenly coming to a stop that kills so maybe i should go for a try
I recommend setting max and min to 1350 and also performance governor, on v6 supercharger before benching run an enginge flush and kill all apps using process manager except quadrant
DEFYing the Android planet with ICS
Ok i´ll try that V6 thingie but before that i thought i would tell what i have noticed so far.
MS2Ginger stayed around 1900 score on Quadrant with a top of 2100.
CyanogenMod seems to stay around 2400 with a peak of 2501 so far.
CyanogenMod seems to be better on the hardware tests except on the graphical parts where it seems to drop a couple of FPS, Anyone know any good
advice to maximize the graphical parts of CM?
A fun thing to notice is that with the original settings and MS2Ginger i achieved a score of 1350 and now riding around 2500, pretty nice.
One down thou with CM is that i woke up this morning without a statusbar and when the alarm went off i couldnt shut it off except for rebooting the phone.
mihovil13 said:
I recommend setting max and min to 1350 and also performance governor, on v6 supercharger before benching run an enginge flush and kill all apps using process manager except quadrant
DEFYing the Android planet with ICS
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Ok now im un-supercharged again, either i did something very wrong or that script only worked in the wrong direction on my Defy+. Installed it and ended up running 1700 - 1800 scores on Quadrant, uninstalled it and is now back to 2300, dont know where the last 100 - 200 points ended up, will do some more tests before moving on to the Mokee OS rom.
Have a safe day/evening
I jujst wanted to say that im in no way is trying to put down the MS2Ginger developers work, this is just me and personal opinions in the hunt for a better performing Defy+
Cheers
in my opinion, oc-ing the defy to over 1.2ghz makes no sense and it only damages your cpu in the long run. i think that managing your ram gives a lot smoother experience than oc-ing your phone, because the only apps that dont run smooth on this little beauty are hd games, but they were never intended to. im using ram manager pro from market (play store), try it, maybe it helps!
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I've OC 1,8 GHz... I know that when playing games, phone's temperature raises, but when I'm playing NFS HP it almost burns me. What can I do with that? Does custom ROM may reduce the overheating?
And which ROM is the best?
reduce your overclock to 1.4ghz...really no need to go above 1.4ghz currently
yeah, but with 1,8 GHz is the best score in Antutu...
So in the end its just about benchmark score..
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yeah, but with 1,8 GHz is the best score in Antutu...
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Antutu means nothing......im not understanding this recent fad in basing your phone on Antutu etc etc maybe im just old school i dunno.....you asked about overheating and i gave you an answer......benchmark scores mean nothing at the end of the day....
Ok... and what about the best ROM?
search for it and install which u find its best for you
dont just say thanks hit thanks if i helped
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and a former symbian lover
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there is no "best" rom, rom's are down to personal preference. try them all see which you like.
Overhaeting at 1.8ghz while you are playin a game that stresses the RAM? Are you serious??? that is your phone's way of telling you that it cant take it, reduce the OC before it blows up...!
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Overhaeting at 1.8ghz while you are playin a game that stresses the RAM? Are you serious??? that is your phone's way of telling you that it cant take it, reduce the OC before it blows up...!
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it wont blow up, but it does reduce the life of the CPU ALOT
Ehm... I'm searching for ROM with good battery and RAM tweaks, smooth and fast
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it wont blow up, but it does reduce the life of the CPU ALOT
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well metaphorically... ;-p
sorry i should be straight forward and not scare people like that...
I'm running the Titanium Kernel build#4 and occasionally take it up to 1.7GHz; the handset does get extremely hot (battery temps were somewhere in the range of 50C-60C, I think) so I never OC that high anymore. It probably cant be very good for it
As for "best" ROMs, it really does depend on what you prefer, but flashing the Titanium Kernel and running the Lionheart governor seems to give the best performance and battery life at a 1.4GHz OC, for me anyways.
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I'm running the Titanium Kernel build#4 and occasionally take it up to 1.7GHz; the handset does get extremely hot (battery temps were somewhere in the range of 50C-60C, I think) so I never OC that high anymore. It probably cant be very good for it
As for "best" ROMs, it really does depend on what you prefer, but flashing the Titanium Kernel and running the Lionheart governor seems to give the best performance and battery life at a 1.4GHz OC, for me anyways.
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For me no heating on 1.7 ghz but when I was on 1.9 ghz then it was heating....
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Lloir said:
it wont blow up, but it does reduce the life of the CPU ALOT
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That is true. The CPU can withstand ~100°C but not your hand. Standard phones has plastick fascia, so you are not sensing the heat that much as in our aluminium V. The phone can withstand that much, the question is how long...
As for me, I use the phone at stock 1Ghz, and for me it is more than enough.
8bitShift said:
I'm running the Titanium Kernel build#4 and occasionally take it up to 1.7GHz; the handset does get extremely hot (battery temps were somewhere in the range of 50C-60C, I think) so I never OC that high anymore. It probably cant be very good for it
As for "best" ROMs, it really does depend on what you prefer, but flashing the Titanium Kernel and running the Lionheart governor seems to give the best performance and battery life at a 1.4GHz OC, for me anyways.
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If you're talking about governors, I want to ask you, which I/O scheduler is the best? Cause first time I'm seeing something like "I/O Scheduler"
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If you're talking about governors, I want to ask you, which I/O scheduler is the best? Cause first time I'm seeing something like "I/O Scheduler"
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For me sio is best....my friends xperia neo v heating more than my cell.....
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Hey guy's I noticed the one xl just got kernel sources recently and the result? Insane oc! I was just wondering how hard it would be to match the 2.1 frequency on the galaxy s3 lte as they both run Qualcomm s4's.
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The 1.9Ghz we currently have isn't enough for you? !!
Ahaha, well the thing is I returned my one xl for a galaxy s3 for performance reasons. I love to get every bit of power I can from my device and I somewhat expected the s4 to hit the 2ghz barrier soon after it was fiddled with. Battery drain is not a deal breaker for me.
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2.1 ghz.... My device runs butter smooth on stock... Will 2.1 cause it to melt like microwaved butter??
From what I heard mildly hot these s4's can handle it though.
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So I guess there not going to be a release like specified for quite awhile..
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So I guess there not going to be a release like specified for quite awhile..
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Depends the phone is quite new give it like 2 or 4 weeks tops. Right now IMO development is kinda slow.
is overclocking a phone anything like overclocking a PC? I've never Oc'd a phone before but have plenty of experience on PC.
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Way more simpler actually.An app shows you your available frequencies choose the one you want and done.Oh and its live OC to.
Overclocking a phone is not easier than overclocking a PC.
Phones have many CPU steps so you have to find the right voltage for each step.
Also you can only change CPU voltage and frequency. (Some kernels allow you to change bus speed which is nice but alot don't support this.)
The only sensor you have is battery temp.
Furthermore, when overclocking a pc, you can just run prime95 for 10 hours and you know your stable. With the phone there is no difinitive stability test so sometimes something might trigger an instability afte you have been "stable" for a while.
Also no third party cooling. (As far as I know)
Im not saying it's really hard, but honestly when you come from PC overclocking you will probobly get frustrated about some things.
All that being said, overclocking a phone is super fun and I hope I didn't scare you away from it in any way.
Am I the only one who isnt interested in overclocking in the least bit? I mean, the damn thing is fast enough already. I can understand overclocking something old like a nexus one, but wow. What do you guys get out of OC? What do you use OC for that requires the higher speeds?
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Am I the only one who isnt interested in overclocking in the least bit? I mean, the damn thing is fast enough already. I can understand overclocking something old like a nexus one, but wow. What do you guys get out of OC? What do you use OC for that requires the higher speeds?
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If you have to ask this then don't worry about it. The average PC doesn't need more than 1ghz. We overclock because we can!
Time_Zone said:
If you have to ask this then don't worry about it. The average PC doesn't need more than 1ghz. We overclock because we can!
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I custom built my computer, im sure i can overclock it to who knows what but it being so new i don't even think about it. Maybe in 2 years when it starts showing age.
Most people that overclock their PC will get a new one before they really need the speed anyway. It's just because its is fun. And plus if you know how to overclock, there is really no reason not to. It's not like it's a trade off, its just free performance.
gotcha, i wasnt meaning to be disrespectful, i just never understood it unless needed.
You should try overclocking your PC. You might find that it is very fun.
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Overclocking a phone is not easier than overclocking a PC.
Phones have many CPU steps so you have to find the right voltage for each step.
Also you can only change CPU voltage and frequency. (Some kernels allow you to change bus speed which is nice but alot don't support this.)
The only sensor you have is battery temp.
Furthermore, when overclocking a pc, you can just run prime95 for 10 hours and you know your stable. With the phone there is no difinitive stability test so sometimes something might trigger an instability afte you have been "stable" for a while.
Also no third party cooling. (As far as I know)
Im not saying it's really hard, but honestly when you come from PC overclocking you will probobly get frustrated about some things.
All that being said, overclocking a phone is super fun and I hope I didn't scare you away from it in any way.
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I said simpler because in my experience I just select the frequency that I want and it causes no stability issues and under volt each step by 25mv.
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robstunner said:
Am I the only one who isnt interested in overclocking in the least bit? I mean, the damn thing is fast enough already. I can understand overclocking something old like a nexus one, but wow. What do you guys get out of OC? What do you use OC for that requires the higher speeds?
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I just like showing off to my my friend who has an iphone and can't do that :highfive:
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You should try overclocking your PC. You might find that it is very fun.
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I wish I could but I have a laptop plus have no experience in OC a pc.
Your right about that. If your not pushing it to it's limits its easy. But then again the same could be said for PCs.
What are your guys' opinions on the performance of these two kernels? From what I've gathered it seems like KToon's kernel is meant for overclocking, but then what would one use task's for?
Task's recent update to his kernel makes me want to try it because I've been using KToon's kernel with the ktoonservative governer and row scheduler UV'ed a little bit but unlocked to 2.1GHz and have been having some pretty bad battery life in mu opinion, do you think switching to task's kernel would be better on the battery?
Well what do you guys think?
Fun Fact for the day. Versus threads get shut down in no time here on XDA.
P.S- Why wouldn't you just try it first before making a thread about it? Kernels take about 3 seconds to flash. Also. No one can tell you that you will get better battery life on one or the other considering all of the variables. We are all in different locations, use different apps, have different settings, and we all use our devices differently. You need to try them both out and see which one works better for YOUR device.
Man why are ya giving me a hard time? You kicked me out of your thread, which I understood and respect, but then you come here and tell me the same thing you told me before and that my thread's gonna go to the bin in no time.
I'm just trying to find out what the DIFFERENCES between the kernels are, because it isn't very clear in reading the descriptions/OP's,
They wouldn't co-exist if they were exactly the same.
I'm not too interested in tweaking the hell out of my device nor do I care too much about overclocking...I just want a lot of screen time and the ability to play games and SMS with little lag.
I have tried out both kernels and didn't really notice much difference because I didn't really know what to look for.
Like, okay or example, it seems to me that your kernel is less for tweaking and isn't for overclocking (max 1.6GHz or something?) while KToons can go to 2.1.
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Man why are ya giving me a hard time? You kicked me out of your thread, which I understood and respect, but then you come here and tell me the same thing you told me before and that my thread's gonna go to the bin in no time.
I'm just trying to find out what the DIFFERENCES between the kernels are, because it isn't very clear in reading the descriptions/OP's,
They wouldn't co-exist if they were exactly the same.
I'm not too interested in tweaking the hell out of my device nor do I care too much about overclocking...I just want a lot of screen time and the ability to play games and SMS with little lag.
I have tried out both kernels and didn't really notice much difference because I didn't really know what to look for.
Like, okay or example, it seems to me that your kernel is less for tweaking and isn't for overclocking (max 1.6GHz or something?) while KToons can go to 2.1.
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I'm not giving you are hard time. I'm just telling you the facts here. If you're not into tweaking and messing with things then this is simple and really shouldn't make a difference to you which one you use other than battery life, less lag, ect... Which no one can tell you one is better than the other for. Flash one and don't touch the settings for it and use it how you normally would for a day or two. Then do the same for the other kernel. See which one gets you the best results. Its the only way to find out. Not quite sure why you're refusing to take my advice here. Its pretty straight forward.
There's kernel source in both threads that explain in DETAIL all the DIFFERENCES between the two. It literally only takes seconds to flash and see for yourself. This shouldn't be a big deal at all.
I think they re two of the same.Task just doesnt want KT to know he borrowed his kernel...lol jk. But seriously,they're pretty similar.KT seems better on the performance end but I never got the exceptional battery stats that ppl keep posting,IdK it may be something on my end. On the other hand, task's seemed better on my battery as I could not noticeably see my battery drain during use as I did on Kt's. Furthermore my phone does get hot really fast on task kernel,I'm guessing its cuz we use performance control and can't really play in the voltages as much.
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I think they re two of the same.Task just doesnt want KT to know he borrowed his kernel...lol jk. But seriously,they're pretty similar.KT seems better on the performance end but I never got the exceptional battery stats that ppl keep posting,IdK it may be something on my end. On the other hand, task's seemed better on my battery as I could not noticeably see my battery drain during use as I did on Kt's. Furthermore my phone does get hot really fast on task kernel,I'm guessing its cuz we use performance control and can't really play in the voltages as much.
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Or all or any of that could be due to the apps your have on your device, the settings you choose, ect...
P.S- My phone has never gotten hot. Probably due to what I mentioned above.
task650 said:
If you're not into tweaking and messing with things then this is simple and really shouldn't make a difference to you which one you use other than battery life, less lag, ect... Flash one and don't touch the settings for it and use it how you normally would for a day or two. Then do the same for the other kernel. See which one gets you the best results. Its the only way to find out. Not quite sure why you're refusing to take my advice here. Its pretty straight forward.
There's kernel source in both threads that explain in DETAIL all the DIFFERENCES between the two. It literally only takes seconds to flash and see for yourself. This shouldn't be a big deal at all.
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I have flashed both kernels. And I don't mean that I am not planning on doing ANY tweaking whatsoever, I just don't mean like messing with voltages adding or subtracting 25 at a time until my CPU crashes so I can find the under/overclock limit...that's the kind of tweaking I have no interest in trying. I'm not gonna look through he sources of both kernels, come on dude you know I'm not a dev and that level of detail is un-necessary.
Your kernel being capped at 1.6GHz probably is better on battery but I also have a sixaxis controller and like to game, does it affect 3D performance at all?
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Ithey're pretty similar.KT seems better on the performance end but I never got the exceptional battery stats that ppl keep posting,IdK it may be something on my end. On the other hand, task's seemed better on my battery as I could not noticeably see my battery drain during use as I did on Kt's. Furthermore my phone does get hot really fast on task kernel,I'm guessing its cuz we use performance control and can't really play in the voltages as much.
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This is the kind of posts I'm looking for in this thread. Do you personally find task's kernel's performance to be any worse than KT's? Cause you said bettery life seemed better.
Also, are the same governers and I/O schedules available between both kernels? The only settings I'm used to using is ktoonservative and row, I wouldn't really know what to do in performance control to emulate what I've done in KTweaker.
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This is the kind of posts I'm looking for in this thread. Do you personally find task's kernel's performance to be any worse than KT's? Cause you said bettery life seemed better.
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He cannot answer this question honestly. He doesn't have your device. You're not understanding. He can have the best battery life possible on my kernel but if you use it, you could have the worst battery life possible. IT'S DEVICE DEPENDENT. Will you please just do yourself a favor and take 3 seconds, flash the kernel, and see. You say you've tried them both, but you are also asking about playing games and what not with them? You would know if you had tried them dude. Same goes for the governors & schedulers. You would also know that if you had actually tried them both. I need to ask you this. Why won't you just try them and see for yourself. Are you really the type of person to flash what people tell you to your expensive device?
Look dude. I'm only trying to help you here. I'm not quite sure why you wouldn't just take my advice here. I have quite a bit of experience with this stuff and I'm trying to help you get the best experience possible. But it seems as though you think that personal opinions of others are whats best for your device when in all reality they are not. Real life testing is what will prove to be best for your device. Trust me.
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I have flashed both kernels. And I don't mean that I am not planning on doing ANY tweaking whatsoever, I just don't mean like messing with voltages adding or subtracting 25 at a time until my CPU crashes so I can find the under/overclock limit...that's the kind of tweaking I have no interest in trying. I'm not gonna look through he sources of both kernels, come on dude you know I'm not a dev and that level of detail is un-necessary.
Your kernel being capped at 1.6GHz probably is better on battery but I also have a sixaxis controller and like to game, does it affect 3D performance at all?
This is the kind of posts I'm looking for in this thread. Do you personally find task's kernel's performance to be any worse than KT's? Cause you said bettery life seemed better.
Also, are the same governers and I/O schedules available between both kernels? The only settings I'm used to using is ktoonservative and row, I wouldn't really know what to do in performance control to emulate what I've done in KTweaker.
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What You won't have on underwear kernel vs kt747: ktoonservative gov, vibration strength control, screen off max freq control, screen off gov control, fast charge, MHz range from 96 to 2106, undervolting capabilities and adjustments to governors and schedulers.
If you don't want to undervolt or tweak anything, I recommend you use underwear kernel. It is stable fast and oc to 1674mhz is alright for any gaming and it doesn't affect 3d performance.
If you wanna use ktoonservative governor then you will have no choice but to use kt747.
But anyway, what you really need is to try both and familiarize yourself with their features.
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What You won't have on underwear kernel vs kt747: ktoonservative gov, vibration strength control, screen off max freq control, screen off gov control, fast charge, MHz range from 96 to 2106, undervolting capabilities and adjustments to governors and schedulers.
If you don't want to undervolt or tweak anything, I recommend you use underwear kernel. It is stable fast and oc to 1674mhz is alright for any gaming and it doesn't affect 3d performance.
If you wanna use ktoonservative governor then you will have no choice but to use kt747.
But anyway, what you really need is to try both and familiarize yourself with their features.
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Comprehensive list. I like it. Now I gotta figure out which gov I'm gonna use when I flash the underwear kernel.
Thanks everybody for their input, if anyone else has anything to say then please go for it!
Wiping cache + dalvik and flashing underwear kernel then fixing permissions and rebooting and gonna take a look around performance control to see whats up.
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Or all or any of that could be due to the apps your have on your device, the settings you choose, ect...
P.S- My phone has never gotten hot. Probably due to what I mentioned above.
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Ohh Thnx man. While you're here any suggestions as to how I go about fixing/finding out which apps are responsible? Also,any combinations/settings you might recommend trying with your kernel,despite the phone dependent variables and what not. Thnx )
Running the underwear kernel today, changes frequencies min and max to the farthest it can go. Will report back with my results.
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Sorry man, but no need to report back here as it has already been stated that each User's experience will differ upon usage, apps, personal habits, planet alignment,... Boils down to a flash and see type thing.
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Here is some info on Governor and I/O schedulers. Obviously it isn't going to include Ktoonservative or ROW but you get the idea.
I'm new of the forum , but i'm here to ask you guys, what do you think about the new kernel DxEngine??, i think that this kernel is coming out with lots of features for our Xplay that we've never seen before. But i don't know much about the VRam and the GPU Overclock... are those two features safe for our devices?? i read lots of posts about the GPU overclock and all says that's not safe and allocating more memory to the GPU i think it's a good idea, but i've never heard about this. I want to know more about this awesome kernel and for now the post have been closed by the moderators so please reply fast i need more information guys
Bye
p.s.: Sorry for bad english
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I'm new of the forum , but i'm here to ask you guys, what do you think about the new kernel DxEngine??, i think that this kernel is coming out with lots of features for our Xplay that we've never seen before. But i don't know much about the VRam and the GPU Overclock... are those two features safe for our devices?? i read lots of posts about the GPU overclock and all says that's not safe and allocating more memory to the GPU i think it's a good idea, but i've never heard about this. I want to know more about this awesome kernel and for now the post have been closed by the moderators so please reply fast i need more information guys
Bye
p.s.: Sorry for bad english
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Well there is someone who tested it and told me that it's working great so far and they get 340 megabytes of ram so thats pretty awesome. I don't know much about the GPU overclock but it should supposedly cause better performance though I don't think I'd like to take risks with it. As l long as it isn't too extreme. Anyways once the kernels released I definitely want to try it and id love to see a jelly bean version as well as a multiboot one
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Well there is someone who tested it and told me that it's working great so far and they get 340 megabytes of ram so thats pretty awesome. I don't know much about the GPU overclock but it should supposedly cause better performance though I don't think I'd like to take risks with it. As l long as it isn't too extreme. Anyways once the kernels released I definitely want to try it and id love to see a jelly bean version as well as a multiboot one
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i wanna try the fast version of the kernel but i'm a little bit scaried of the overclock to the GPU 245 (Stock) -->> 260 (Overclock) but like you i think that will improve performance a lot and maybe quality cause of the more ram allocated to the GPU (correct me if i'm wrong) 4MB (Stock) -->> 8MB (DxEngine), the cpu it's not a problem 'cause i won't overclock it more than 1.6ghz. Is it possible to make a kernel where i can choose the frequncies??? Where i can get the control of the GPU?? In CPU Master there is an option called GPU control, but i can't use it 'cause of the kernel of course
im using at for now
but you cant make vidoes in this version that is available for test now
and i also overclocked to 2ghz(i havnt touched 1.7ghz before)
I am booting into windows now to flash it... (Beta 419mb Kernel) I will report back after some gaming and stuffs,
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pedyvirus said:
im using at for now
but you cant make vidoes in this version that is available for test now
and i also overclocked to 2ghz(i havnt touched 1.7ghz before)
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Does it work with CM9?
for now its only gb version
pedyvirus said:
im using at for now
but you cant make vidoes in this version that is available for test now
and i also overclocked to 2ghz(i havnt touched 1.7ghz before)
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well, i think you've flashed the one with the overclocked GPU, right?? if it's right, please tell me that for now it's all ok for you and all you can notice is that the performance are improved in gaming XD
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I am booting into windows now to flash it... (Beta 419mb Kernel) I will report back after some gaming and stuffs,
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hehe i won't flash that kernel because i don't want to lose the completely the camera XD i think i'll go for the fast version
well i dont game too much and the rom that im using is not a agming rom too(nxt gb 2)
so i cant say anything about gaming but yes im using the one with overclocked gpu
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hehe i won't flash that kernel because i don't want to lose the completely the camera XD i think i'll go for the fast version
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Lol yea, me 2, but im just testing to see if i should move to it, as i dont use Camera THATT much, and even if i were to it would probably be something Stupidly important, like a Cat, :3
everyone i have some bad news i cant release extremekernel offically because wedgess dosent want me using his sources so i have to rebase on stock and start again which could take another fortnight
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everyone i have some bad news i cant release extremekernel offically because wedgess dosent want me using his sources so i have to rebase on stock and start again which could take another fortnight
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OH my GOD!!! you are telling us that now you have to rebase all kernels and i've to wait more time to see your fast kernel in my Xplay??? D:
extremetempz said:
everyone i have some bad news i cant release extremekernel offically because wedgess dosent want me using his sources so i have to rebase on stock and start again which could take another fortnight
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Aww man that sucks but I guess wedgess has a point since he put a lot of work into them. Anyways good luck with rebasing. Maybe you could use doom kernel as a base if he gives you permission. If you need help testing the rebased version id be happy to
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Aww man that sucks but I guess wedgess has a point since he put a lot of work into them. Anyways good luck with rebasing. Maybe you could use doom kernel as a base if he gives you permission. If you need help testing the rebased version id be happy to
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+1. For GB
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But if wedgess didn't cut the pemission to you to his sources the kernels were all ready to upload and reopen the thread with the links for download??
as i know doomlord will give you permission as gived the permission to wedgess too
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The kernel is one of the best I got 'till now , Every game was fluid and smooth but at about 30 frames or so , but now they are like 50-60 , no micro lags no nothing . I have the extreme edition, and I don't know anything about the gpu modifications only about the overclock , but on lupus v12-full Pacific Rim didn't want to start , just like when u try armv7 games on armv6 it quit simply. Now it's just like the others , fluid and good. I use only 1.7 ghz , I could reach 2.3ghz but only when charging and it got VERY hot.
So : Good kernel , High overclock , GPU overclock (very good) , and good ram. A++ from me for this kernel.
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The kernel is one of the best I got 'till now , Every game was fluid and smooth but at about 30 frames or so , but now they are like 50-60 , no micro lags no nothing . I have the extreme edition, and I don't know anything about the gpu modifications only about the overclock , but on lupus v12-full Pacific Rim didn't want to start , just like when u try armv7 games on armv6 it quit simply. Now it's just like the others , fluid and good. I use only 1.7 ghz , I could reach 2.3ghz but only when charging and it got VERY hot.
So : Good kernel , High overclock , GPU overclock (very good) , and good ram. A++ from me for this kernel.
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Why can't i try this kernel?? XDD i wanna try the fast vesion!! OH MY GOD!!! FAST VERSION IS THE BEST!!!
Fast
480P Recording
2GHz Max Clock
8MB VRAM
398MB Available Ram
Overclocked GPU (260MHz)
TOTALLY WORTH IT!!
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Why can't i try this kernel?? XDD i wanna try the fast vesion!! OH MY GOD!!! FAST VERSION IS THE BEST!!!
Fast
480P Recording
2GHz Max Clock
8MB VRAM
398MB Available Ram
Overclocked GPU (260MHz)
TOTALLY WORTH IT!!
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Yes I know , It has best balance for a gamer , but I think only the extreme is developed enough to test , my play anyway can't reach 1.9ghz+ without charging so when it's done i'll go with it . I think of dissasembling it and clean and may be implement something of a cooling hole for the cpu but it think it's not the best idea , anyway i did with my s1 in the past (only cleaning) and it gave about 100-200 mhz more .
EDIT: http://peer.ccsd.cnrs.fr/docs/00/67/53/99/PDF/PEER_stage2_10.1016%2Fj.applthermaleng.2010.06.002.pdf
A good read if anyone is interested.