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Hey guys,
I'm using the MHL Adapter from BizLink and tried viewing a 720p movie with DTS Sound.
The playback lagged . I don't know why..
I used the Dice Player, because it's supporting DTS, also i'm using a 5m HDMI cable.
But why is the movie lagging? There are kinda microlags..
Resolution: 720p
Video Bitrate: 5586 kbps
Audio Stream: DTS 5.1
x264
Maybe the Player causes the problem, because another 720p movie was played well (Samsung stock player). btw: the phone was very hot after watching the above mentioned (DTS) movie.
Does anyone has some ideas?
Ya some 720p movies also lags for me in Dice player.Its better to convert DTS audio only to ac3 format,doesnt take too much time either to convert.
techpal said:
Ya some 720p movies also lags for me in Dice player.Its better to convert DTS audio only to ac3 format,doesnt take too much time either to convert.
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Guess it's the best way to do.
Just watched a 1080p movie, and the phone was only a bit warm (with samsung stock player), was AC3. Does anyone know a "good" converter from DTS to AC3?
i had to split the movie into 3 files, to be able to play the movie (4GB limitation).
Maybe Samsung will fix these two issues: DTS capability and EXT4....
Diceplayer prior to 1.2.0 have some video lag issue.
did you test the movie using diceplayer 1.3.0 ?
I was using the 1.3.0 version.
Watched 1080p without any lags, yesterday. Was using stock Player
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I used the Dice Player, because it's supporting DTS, also i'm using a 5m HDMI cable.
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As far as I know hardware-acceleration an Android will only be used when using the integrated media-framework.
While Samsung extended the stock media-framework to support more container and codecs (like AC3 for example) it doesn´t support DTS.
This means, anything you can not play with the Samsung mediaplayer will use pure software-decoding, which is slow and burns a lot of energy.
Maybe the Player causes the problem, because another 720p movie was played well (Samsung stock player). btw: the phone was very hot after watching the above mentioned (DTS) movie.
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This is no surprise. With software-decoding, which obviously isn´t fast enough, at least one, but probably both of the Cortex-A9-cores will run at full speed the whole time.
The reason for dedicated decoding-hardware in the SoCs instead just using more powerful general purpose CPUs is the much better energy-efficiency.
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As far as I know hardware-acceleration an Android will only be used when using the integrated media-framework.
While Samsung extended the stock media-framework to support more container and codecs (like AC3 for example) it doesn´t support DTS.
This means, anything you can not play with the Samsung mediaplayer will use pure software-decoding, which is slow and burns a lot of energy.
This is no surprise. With software-decoding, which obviously isn´t fast enough, at least one, but probably both of the Cortex-A9-cores will run at full speed the whole time.
The reason for dedicated decoding-hardware in the SoCs instead just using more powerful general purpose CPUs is the much better energy-efficiency.
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Yes, i thought the same, because it was so warm.
I used the Rockplayer, with it you can activate Hardware acceleration, but i don't know if it works.
Thought other players could use the hardware acceleration.
From now on, i will convert the DTS to AC3, but first of, i will look for stock AC3
jojo2peter said:
I used the Rockplayer, with it you can activate Hardware acceleration, but i don't know if it works.
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Rockplayer can use hardware-acceleration, but only using the Android-Framework, which means hardware-acceleration will only work for the same containers/codecs as with the stock mediaplayer.
Thought other players could use the hardware acceleration.
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As I said Players can use hardware-acceleration, but they have to do it using the media-framefork, which means no hardware-acceleration for containers/codecs which aren´t supported in the media-framework.
In theory you could develop a mediaplayer with your own media-framework, directly programming the SoC.
But the question is how much of use it would anyway, could the hardware assist decoding for codecs which aren´t already present in the media-framework? It certainly could be useful for unsupported containers, that contain codecs which are already supported.
But the biggest problem would be that your new media-framework will only work with the phone you developed it, nobody will make android-software for just one phone out there.
That´s somewhat of the curse of the Android-plattform. It has been developed for maximum compatibility between the different devices out there. This means lots of choices in devices to buy for us, and for software-developers many devices that can run their software. But it also means we are not getting device-specific-software from 3rd-party developers.
Hopefully the Android-Framework at some time will split up the media-framework into "modules" similar to a DirectShow Filtergraph, so mediaplayers could exchange this individual modules and still use hardware-acceleration in others (which come from the device-manufacturer)
This would allow for example the support of different containers without losing hardware-acceleration in the decoding-part (if the codec is already supported), as well as doing audio-decoding in software (which could be quite reasonably done with 2 Cortex-A9-CPUs) and still using the hardware for the video-part.
I never hadany lag on the stock. Even the 1080 ones
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As I said Players can use hardware-acceleration, but they have to do it using the media-framefork, which means no hardware-acceleration for containers/codecs which aren´t supported in the media-framework.
In theory you could develop a mediaplayer with your own media-framework, directly programming the SoC.
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Diceplayer use SoC's HW Decoder. + SW decoder for Audio.
check this video
After Diceplayer came out, all of android device that supported by diceplayer
can play MKV(H.264/MPEG-4+DTS/AC3).
Even Nexus-S can play MKV+DTS+H.264 High profile with Diceplayer.
jojo2peter said:
Hey guys,
I'm using the MHL Adapter from BizLink and tried viewing a 720p movie with DTS Sound.
The playback lagged . I don't know why..
I used the Dice Player, because it's supporting DTS, also i'm using a 5m HDMI cable.
But why is the movie lagging? There are kinda microlags..
Resolution: 720p
Video Bitrate: 5586 kbps
Audio Stream: DTS 5.1
x264
Maybe the Player causes the problem, because another 720p movie was played well (Samsung stock player). btw: the phone was very hot after watching the above mentioned (DTS) movie.
Does anyone has some ideas?
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Send your file to me.
I'll check it.
jojo2peter said:
Guess it's the best way to do.
Just watched a 1080p movie, and the phone was only a bit warm (with samsung stock player), was AC3. Does anyone know a "good" converter from DTS to AC3?
i had to split the movie into 3 files, to be able to play the movie (4GB limitation).
Maybe Samsung will fix these two issues: DTS capability and EXT4....
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Hey guy, take a look here to make your NTFS Sd card work http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1120407&page=3
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jojo2peter said:
But why is the movie lagging? There are kinda microlags..
Resolution: 720p
Video Bitrate: 5586 kbps
Audio Stream: DTS 5.1
x264
Does anyone has some ideas?
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I bet it lags because of the High Video Bitrate! get some 720p movie with Bitrate between 2K - 3.5 K and try
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I bet it lags because of the High Video Bitrate! get some 720p movie with Bitrate between 2K - 3.5 K and try
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And why did the 1080p movie work well?
It has a Video Bitrate @10250 kbps and [email protected]
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Hey guy, take a look here to make your NTFS Sd card work http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1120407&page=3
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will do that, if the next firmware won't fix that
jojo2peter said:
And why did the 1080p movie work well?
It has a Video Bitrate @10250 kbps and [email protected]
will do that, if the next firmware won't fix that
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mal-formatted mkv file can cause some lag.
H.264 need 2-type of frame time - PTS/DTS.
but some of MKVs have wrong time stamp.
SGS2's HW Video decoder can not handle these files.
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mal-formatted mkv file can cause some lag.
H.264 need 2-type of frame time - PTS/DTS.
but some of MKVs have wrong time stamp.
SGS2's HW Video decoder can not handle these files.
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so is my sample still lagging on your phone too?
did you modifie the SD cache ?
> 512 kb create some lag on my sg2 with the video player.
Diceplayer v 1.7.4 supports Galaxy Nexus.
It take advantage of OMAP4's video decoder.
720p H.264 High profile + DTS/AC3/Flac audio MKV with embedded subtitles works perfectly.
I'll post some test video on next Monday.
YES. YES. YES. That is awesome. My only reservation about the phone was codec support. Thanks for sharing Juami!
Awesome try some 1080p stuff. Also try mxplayer if you have the time
veli69 said:
Awesome try some 1080p stuff. Also try mxplayer if you have the time
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mx : not supported version popup
bs and mobo : couldn't play at all
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I think devs could not get Galaxy Nexus yet.
I got unreleased Galaxy Nexus for testing. so I could release diceplayer update for Galaxy Nexus.
Thanks for the update, been using Diceplayer on my tab 10.1 for a while now and it's been awesome. On the nexus however it seems it's missing some frame rates. Will try it with a few more vids and see how it goes.
Edit: Tried a 720p mkv and it was flawless. Avi's of TV shows are playing back at a low frame rate, and are noticeably choppy.
I can play 10gb 1080p rips without problem, Can't try anything larger as Diceplayer crashes when I try to play over my network so have only been able to play local files.
Plays local files fine but doesn't go fullscreen - leaves the onscreen buttons.
VPlayer seems to work nicely
The UI for Vplayer is defo not perfect.. the folders glitch, and the soft buttons stay lit, however the playback is smooth and in sync, so very usable for now.
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VPlayer seems to work nicely
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vPlayer have a good sw video decoder(ffmpeg) but
vPlayer can't use HW video decoder except native supported format(mp4).
SW video decoder use higher CPU power than HW decoder and drains battery too fast. and loose a color detail.
Great news. Loved the Dice player on my Asus Transformer. Sold my tablet though so I'm looking forward to using it on the GN
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Plays local files fine but doesn't go fullscreen - leaves the onscreen buttons.
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we update diceplayer to support full screen on Galaxy Nexus.
changelog of diceplayer v.1.7.5
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What's in this version:
Support full screen for Galaxy Nexus
Fix bug that sometimes continuation does not work properly for Galaxy Nexus
Fix bug that some AVI files are not played properly
Fix bug that aspect ratio is abnormal when orientation is changed
Add option that shows audio only files (default off)
Add option that saves the subtitle (default on, can move by touching subtitle while playing)
Fix minor bugs
Has anyone tried playing MKV's on the native ICS media player? I can play aac-audio h.264-video MKVs without installing any additional player
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Has anyone tried playing MKV's on the native ICS media player? I can play aac-audio h.264-video MKVs without installing any additional player
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after Honeycomb, Android supports MKV format ( not perfectly) but audio codec limited to AAC/MP3.
if you want to play AC3/DTS/Flac audio and embedded subtitles, you should install 3rd party player.
Just though id add my findings.
Ive tried dice player but as with Vplayer i have had mixed results.
Some of my Mp4 files play just fine whilst others fail to open. The player just goes back to the andriod home screen. The ones that fail have ac3 audio.
Im guessing its down to the audio codecs required to play the files.
I do like the look and feel of the app though.
Its a shame im having these issues as the galaxy s2 played them all natively.
Haven't bought Dice Player but I can confirm the trial will playback high profile MKVs in 1080p:
I tried Diceplayer on few local 720p MKV and these play nice.
But two things:
1. My TXT subtitles did not load.
2. When I tried to play the same file from network share, Diceplayer crashes.
I was just able to mount my network share drive via CIFS, so that it appears under /mnt/cifs/share
Then I tried Diceplayer and it did play my 720p MKV in HW with no delay on start.
If it only supported TXT subtitles... (it would probably need to handle different formats, as I have noticed sometimes different formats used in TXT file)
Will run my usual batch of test video files through the Nexus and Dice Player in next couple of days as I just got my Nexus. Expect it won't measure up to the Note/SGSII that I'm accustomed to, but if it can handle 720p I'll be happy enough...
Not sure If I posted this already, but Dice player was able to play 1080p mov trailer in hardware other players either could not play at all or used software and were skipping.
So I was googling this stuff and I came across a pretty great media player, it is called BS PLAYER
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bsplayer.bspandroid.free&hl=en
I also installed the CPU Support
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...tLmJzcGxheWVyLmJzcGxheWVyYW4uY3B1LmFybXY3diJd
I transferred a 3.3GB .mkv file and it plays perfectly fine at 24 fps, smooth as a whistle, the video only lags when you have the GUI up, once it goes away the video goes back to being 4.8" of HD GOODNESS.
Enjoy. :]
Stock player plays mkv perfectly fine. As for third party MX Player takes the cake.
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It does however with a file that has a DTS audio track, the stock player does not decode the sound so you get no audio
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Yeah the stock player has worked fine for me directly from the gallery. I was worried about loading .mkv files onto my phone but I figured I would just put them there and wait for VLC to hit a stable release but when I tried it on a whim it was butter smooth playback. (Note, the first time I tried this I was using the TuchMi 5.0 ROM with faux123's kernel overclocked to 1.8GHz)
Diceplayer has played anything Ive thrown at it
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Hey I'm considering the S3, I had a question if you wouldn't mind answering. I was wondering what resolutions you all were playing these files at, and also if you happen to know or could check if the .mkv files were encoded in H.264 or Hi-profile H.264. The reason I ask is than I have downloaded tons and tons of anime and other files and most of them are encoded in Hi-profile h.264 MKV. I would appreciate any help, thanks.
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Hey I'm considering the S3, I had a question if you wouldn't mind answering. I was wondering what resolutions you all were playing these files at, and also if you happen to know or could check if the .mkv files were encoded in H.264 or Hi-profile H.264. The reason I ask is than I have downloaded tons and tons of anime and other files and most of them are encoded in Hi-profile h.264 MKV. I would appreciate any help, thanks.
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According to a review on "anandtech" (I can't post a link due to the 10 post rule), the camera actually encodes recorded video in 1080p H.264 - High Profile. I know it's not mkv but at least this means it should support the format.
1080p high profile is no problem, you can also play back lower res 720p @ 60FPS, assuming you running stock based rom, CM, AOSP won't have media codecs.
Also flash this kernel Sammy ICS version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756776
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dunkaskunk said:
According to a review on "anandtech" (I can't post a link due to the 10 post rule), the camera actually encodes recorded video in 1080p H.264 - High Profile. I know it's not mkv but at least this means it should support the format.
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Yeah well .mkv is just a file container anyways, so as long as the video is encoded in that format, then that means it does have the support! Thanks for letting me know, I'll go find that review too.
Sorry to keep bothering you guys, just to confirm 100%, I was wondering if you could download the "Serenity – 720p “On HD DVD” Trailer" from this site. This file is giving my Atrix problems, audio wont sync up and video is really choppy. So if it works flawlessly on the S3 then I know this will be the phone I get.
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Sorry to keep bothering you guys, just to confirm 100%, I was wondering if you could download the "Serenity – 720p “On HD DVD” Trailer" from this site. This file is giving my Atrix problems, audio wont sync up and video is really choppy. So if it works flawlessly on the S3 then I know this will be the phone I get.
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Dude are you serious? Two post up I told you gs3 can play 720p @ 60FPS and 1080p at up to 30fps no sweat.
That trailer is measly 1280×720 (720p), 23.967 FPS, and gs3 plays it without breathing.
Atrix is a gimp.
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VLC is amazing.
Downloading it now. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Downloading it now. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Definitely VLC Beta.
It's the only app out of half a dozen I've tried that'll play 1080p h/w accelerated WITH DTS audio & subs.
I've been using vplayer to watch Doctor Who for the past week or so with no problems. And yes, they have the DTS sound track as well. No lag, no issues, all butter
Though methinks its only a free trial, so hopefully these other apps work just as well so I don't have to worry about having to pay for it.
Edit: VLC Beta really is awesome, plays mkv files with dts tracks perfectly. Thanks for the heads up!
Herp derp SGS3 Tapatalk 2
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Dude are you serious? Two post up I told you gs3 can play 720p @ 60FPS and 1080p at up to 30fps no sweat.
That trailer is measly 1280×720 (720p), 23.967 FPS, and gs3 plays it without breathing.
Atrix is a gimp.
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Well the Atrix can play other encoded videos at 1080p and even h.264 content at at least 720p...it only has a problem with specifically hi-profile encoded h.264 content. The atrix website claimed it can decode h.264 content, and it can, but not the hi-profile setting. Anyways, sorry I don't mean to sound like I am doubting you, I am just overly cautious. Thanks for letting me know.
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Anyone here has the mkv playback problems on S3? I tried the Vplayer, #15 recommended, but the video and audio are out of sync.
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have you tried mx player?
Who uses the MX Player on their Note 2? Are there any particular settings which I should use for optimal playback?
Also, is there something better? I started using MX Player because I ran into issues with videos I made that the standard player wouldn't deal with.
I were trying to play an MKV file with MX Player awhile ago and it wouldn't play so i switched to BS Player. It does everything I need it too. MX might be able to play MKV by now but I'm not giving up BS to find out.
I use PowerAmp and have no issues with any file types.
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I use MX Player on my Note 2 (and all my devices) for about a year or so and love it. The stock settings work great for me, and it has never failed to play a video that would choke the stock player, but the kids lock plugins seal the deal. Unbeatable if you have a grabby toddler.
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i have been using it for over 2 years and i have always kept the default setting on my samsung devices and it has worked perfectly, with the newest version i did switch to hw+ but i dont think it made a difference
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i have been using it for over 2 years and i have always kept the default setting on my samsung devices and it has worked perfectly, with the newest version i did switch to hw+ but i dont think it made a difference
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I'm in the exact same boat on all accounts.
MX Player is the best really. Even though it plays mostly everything, i'm sort of the type who likes all his files in (one format) mp4 format so i convert everything i have to mp4 (as i get them, using Handbrake mostly). Default settings work just fine.
+1 here. Been using mx for about a year and it's great. Plays my mkv files no problem by the way. I also use the "stock" settings. Never have to adjust them UNLESS I'm on a cm based rom. If so all I've ever had to do was go into decoder settings and click hw+. Nothing else. Once I do that everything is as smooth as a stock rom.
Just my two cents
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I always used MX player until i saw Mobo Player mentioned in the CM thread, does everything MX does, handles everything i can throw at it, and it has a floating window option. Best video player for our devices, hands down. Probably the best for many larger screen devices also. VLC has been pretty good too me also,, despite it being so early in dev..
So what's a better format, mkv or mp4? I would like to convert all my movies over, just don't know which format would be best.
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So what's a better format, mkv or mp4? I would like to convert all my movies over, just don't know which format would be best.
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It kinda depends on a few things. Mkv's can handle advanced styles of subtitles that mp4 can't. Also, to the best of my knowledge, mp4's can not handle DTS audio and mkv's can. The Note 2 can't natively play dts though but MX player can hardware render the video and software render the audio. Other than that if the videos are encoded properly the note 2 doesn't really care which of the 2 containers you use.
If there aren't any strict requirements i would just go with mp4 since handbrake is easy to use and your videos will be compatible with a larger number of devices if you go mp4.
Do any of you guys use your Nexus 7 2013 for 1080p videos? It seems that my device isn't able to play 1-2 hr 1080p resolution videos at all through VLC. VLC has no problem playing 720p videos. For 1080p, I get audio but the video doesn't play at all. If I decrease play speed to something less than normal speed, the nexus is able to keep up and play it at a reduced speed, so I'm unsure if it's a VLC issue or if the nexus is just not capable of doing 1080p.
Let me know what your experiences are with 1080p video playback!
I can't recall ever having issues but I'm also not 100% certain I've ever played a 1080p video. I'll toss one on and test it in a little bit. Is it only VLC that's having the issue? And what format is the video you're trying to play? I assume you've tested multiple video files and also played them on another device to make sure it's not the files that are bad?
Just tested a 1080p movie with VLC and it worked fine.
The 1080p videos I tried to play are mp4 files. I don't know enough about videos to find out encoding these files are in (if that even matterS), but they're pretty large at 1.8GB and 1.6GB. I will try another 1080p video I downloaded a while ago.
Out of curiosity, what version of VLC are you running? Mine is VLC v0.9.10 Revision 630a95b (2014-10-16)
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Just tested a 1080p movie with VLC and it worked fine.
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I just tested a different 1080p movie and it worked fine. I guess there's something wrong with some of these video files I have. Thanks for your help!
Yeah I figured that's all it was. Not sure what version VLC I'm on, but its the latest. Just reinstalled it the other day.
Try using Mx-player. So far it played everything I threw at it. (1080p)
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Try using Mx-player. So far it played everything I threw at it. (1080p)
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VLC is MUCH better than MX Player. It's pretty much the de-facto king of video players, on any platform. Besides, he already solved his problem, it was a bad file.
That might be true on other platforms but on Android I had it constantly crashing or not playing some files whereas mx-player played everything.
Just saying you could give it a try. I've been using vlc since way back on pc and I am still using it, just not on Android. (but granted I haven't tried the last release)