i formatted my 64 gb to exfat and i connected my phone to my pc...it reads the card and everything but i am still limited...it seems that the file size limitation of fat32 is still present..
when i go to properties (when the sd card is in my phone) it says file system: generic hierarchical instead of exfat..is that why?
thanks in advance
For what it's worth, I tossed my card in the phone from SanDisk and it was formatted exFat already. Sounds like you might need another format. I don't know why there have been so many problems with these cards. I've read a lot about people frying them while formatting also.
farfromovin said:
For what it's worth, I tossed my card in the phone from SanDisk and it was formatted exFat already. Sounds like you might need another format. I don't know why there have been so many problems with these cards. I've read a lot about people frying them while formatting also.
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yeah i noticed it was already exfat..i just formatted it again anyway to be safe..i also read about being messing up their cards while formatting
when you plug your phone in a pc does it still show as exfat?
I formatted my 64gb card to exFat back when I had my S3, and it's worked perfectly. Now I just got the S4 and before I root my phones I run through a quick little checklist to make sure I'm good to go; when I checked, though, my computer, too, reads it as "generic hierarchical". I know I formatter it to exFat - that's the only way I was able to make it work in the first place. It doesn't appear to have any file size limitations, but I'll transfer something massive onto it just to check. Unless someone knows this doesn't matter, I'll back it up, reformat it, then refill it and root. I'm kinda lost as to how the computer won't read it as exFat, though.
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Hi guys,
I just bought this card from ebay. Can i format it in NTFS to copy large file size and read it from my phone?
fashion_live said:
Hi guys,
I just bought this card from ebay. Can i format it in NTFS to copy large file size and read it from my phone?
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I was able to Format a 64Gb on my Motorola Droid RAZR MAXX by using "SD Formatter", (this is the "SanDisk Formatter"). If you use Windows 7 Formatter, then you'll probably only see that the Memory Card can be Formatted to 8GB. Don't do this or you'll have an 8Gb Memory Card, instead of 64Gb, (you'll only get about 59.4Gb available if done the way that I did it). Use the "SD Formatter" instead.
https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_3/
https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_3/SDFormatter_3.1e.pdf/
I first Formatted it as exFAT, then as FAT, (may have been FAT32).
The Motorola Droid doesn't say that it will support the new Secure Digital Extreme Capacity, (SDXC), rather than Secure Digital Extreme Capacity, (SDHC), so the RAZR MAXX kept telling me there was no Memory Card, but I reformatted it using SD Formater as FAT, (may have been FAT32), and I now have 80 Gb of working Memory in my Droid, (64Gb + 16Gb Internal).
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I don't believe that you will won't to Format a Memory Card as NTFS.
Google "NTFS,FAT32,exFAT formatting?" to find out more information.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100320171239AAMvsxD
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http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2801/exfat_versus_fat32_versus_ntfs/
I can only add that I bought one about week ago and it was like this. The card was preformated in exFat. Windows 7 have seen all of the 59,4GB. I've tried copying some mp3s. A few were copied and then suddenly froze. Copying forever... Tried once more - the same. Tried formating: exFat, NTFS, Fat32 nothing worked, only error that operation of formating couldn't be completed. SD formatter app throwed error about card being locked but I didn't use adapter so it was impossible. Tried even GParted to delete partitions of the card but only get an error. After a week of struggling with SanDisk consultant blaming me that it's my fault, that I don't have proper reader (it was reading SDHC card without issue and as far as I know they are compatible) I've bought SDXC compatible reader and still nothing. Then they let me do an RMA and said that it can take about 4 weeks until I see replacement. I don't recommend buying anything from them. So if something will go wrong you will wait foooooreeeevvvvvaaaa....
When I will get my replacement I will probably format to NTFS too as we oppose to SIII can't use exFat. But I've read somewhere that you need an app (or some skills ) to mount it properly. I don't remember exactly but I think it was something like NTFS Mount from Play.
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I don't believe that you will won't to Format a Memory Card as NTFS.
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squicky said:
I can only add that I bought one about week ago and it was like this. The card was preformated in exFat. Windows 7 have seen all of the 59,4GB. I've tried copying some mp3s. A few were copied and then suddenly froze. Copying forever... Tried once more - the same. Tried formating: exFat, NTFS, Fat32 nothing worked, only error that operation of formating couldn't be completed. SD formatter app throwed error about card being locked but I didn't use adapter so it was impossible. Tried even GParted to delete partitions of the card but only get an error. After a week of struggling with SanDisk consultant blaming me that it's my fault, that I don't have proper reader (it was reading SDHC card without issue and as far as I know they are compatible) I've bought SDXC compatible reader and still nothing. Then they let me do an RMA and said that it can take about 4 weeks until I see replacement. I don't recommend buying anything from them. So if something will go wrong you will wait foooooreeeevvvvvaaaa....
When I will get my replacement I will probably format to NTFS too as we oppose to SIII can't use exFat. But I've read somewhere that you need an app (or some skills ) to mount it properly. I don't remember exactly but I think it was something like NTFS Mount from Play.
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From what you advised here Squicky, the MicroSD Card you received was faulty. I had the exact same issue, sent it back and got the response that it was a faulty product, and they would replace it at no cost, none of the issues of saying it was my fault.
From other things that I have read around the forums such as here, formatting using your phone directly would be more beneficial. The phone can format to most File Systems, and even if your ROM Doesn't support the File system, you can use ntfssd to format to NTFS and mount in your phone =)
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From what you advised here Squicky, the MicroSD Card you received was faulty. I had the exact same issue, sent it back and got the response that it was a faulty product, and they would replace it at no cost, none of the issues of saying it was my fault.
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Well maybe Patriot treats their customers better than SanDisk
I have had my GS3 for a little over a month, rooted and had no issues, I installed another rom with no issue. Unfortunately when I tried to install a CM10 or AOKP rom, each say my ext sd card is damaged and needs to be formatted. I try to format, but it hangs and then just quits without completing the task.
I have tried formatting to fat32 on my PC, downloaded EaseUS Disk utility to format, but none seem to work. When I restore back into the previous rom, it still says damaged and then I can format and start over only in that non AOSP/AOKP rom.
I boot into recovery when the AOSP/AOKP roms are loaded and it wont even mount or format in recovery either.
Any ideas?
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I have had my GS3 for a little over a month, rooted and had no issues, I installed another rom with no issue. Unfortunately when I tried to install a CM10 or AOKP rom, each say my ext sd card is damaged and needs to be formatted. I try to format, but it hangs and then just quits without completing the task.
I have tried formatting to fat32 on my PC, downloaded EaseUS Disk utility to format, but none seem to work. When I restore back into the previous rom, it still says damaged and then I can format and start over only in that non AOSP/AOKP rom.
I boot into recovery when the AOSP/AOKP roms are loaded and it wont even mount or format in recovery either.
Any ideas?
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I think I read somewhere that in CM10/AOKP that it won't read/understand exFat very well.
So, formatting to Fat32 is definitely the way to go.
When I used some other programs it would say the same thing... that my card was damaged and had to be fixed.
I had a heck of a time finding a program that would do it for me on my 64gb sdxc SanDisk card!
But I found a free one called GUI Fat 32 Format that actually worked.
Click this link and it will start to download:
http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/guiformat.exe
It didn't work immediately, for me at first, but after a few tries it actually worked very well.
I think that once you get it into Fat32 all of your problems will go away. Hope so anyway.:cyclops:
Let us know if it works!
This seems to have corrected the issue, finally
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This seems to have corrected the issue, finally
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Glad it worked for you!
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I had a similar issue... I flashed an AOSP ROM on my phone n it corrupted my sd card and wouldn't format. before formatting I went back to a touchwiz ROM and it still said it was a bad sd card and needed to format I ended up formatting my card in my phone and lost all my data. I put music on my sd card and removed the sd card from my phone before flashing another AOSP ROM. After I installed another AOSP ROM I re-inserted the sd card and it again said it was bad and needed to be reformatted...
So my question is...How can you use a 64gb sd card on an AOSP ROM...I'm back on touchwiz for now. Sd card works fine.
Does formatting the sd card in your phone format it to exfat and not fat32?
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iomega311 said:
I think I read somewhere that in CM10/AOKP that it won't read/understand exFat very well.
So, formatting to Fat32 is definitely the way to go.
When I used some other programs it would say the same thing... that my card was damaged and had to be fixed.
I had a heck of a time finding a program that would do it for me on my 64gb sdxc SanDisk card!
But I found a free one called GUI Fat 32 Format that actually worked.
Click this link and it will start to download:
http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/guiformat.exe
It didn't work immediately, for me at first, but after a few tries it actually worked very well.
I think that once you get it into Fat32 all of your problems will go away. Hope so anyway.:cyclops:
Let us know if it works!
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Wait, so you're saying that AOKP/CM10 don't have the necessary drivers to handle exFAT formatted sd cards?
Do you remember where/how you came upon this information? Was this issue particular to 64gb SDXC cards vs smaller SDHC cards or maybe to certain classes of cards?
I find this shocking, but I can't say it isn't unfounded.
I have a 64gb uhs-1 sandisk card coming from newegg in a few days, so I'm obviously concerned.
Any insight you could provide is greatly appreciated!
Hey guys... after doing some fooling around I've found out some (useful) information for people with 64 gb sd cards...
1. When you format an sd card while its inside your phone it will format it to exFat.... which is fine if you plan on only staying on TW ROMs. This format is not compatible with TWRP Recovery and has given me issues (causing me to loose all my data on my card) just by flashing an AOSP ROM
2. If you use the program posted in the second post(thanks iomega311) you can format your sd card to Fat32 and it will now work on TW ROMs, TWRP, and AOSP ROMs.
Hope this helps for anyone with SD Card Questions/issues.
In my opinion... Never program sd cards on phone... Always use a computer. Especially if you want it done right!!!!
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Wait, so you're saying that AOKP/CM10 don't have the necessary drivers to handle exFAT formatted sd cards?
Do you remember where/how you came upon this information? Was this issue particular to 64gb SDXC cards vs smaller SDHC cards or maybe to certain classes of cards?
I find this shocking, but I can't say it isn't unfounded.
I have a 64gb uhs-1 sandisk card coming from newegg in a few days, so I'm obviously concerned.
Any insight you could provide is greatly appreciated!
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CM 10 which all the AOSP roms are based off does not support exFAT since it is a proprietary format and they don't want any legal trouble. The best way to format a 64GB gard is with GUI formatter
What allocation size did you guys use? Just got my 64GB SDXC and need to format it so that I can use it on CM10.
i want to use this app:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889550 but i see it dosent work on exfat and i dont know how to know if i have exfat or fat32 please help ..
I'm using directory bind (latest version) on exfat and it works fine for me. You can just put the card in your computer and go to its propertes, it will tell you which format it is on.
64GB micro sd cards usually come with exfat format out of the box. 32GB usually FAT32
i think most sdcards are fat32 by default--may be wrong--but you can research phone specs or Google sdcard specs for n2.
Not aware any card comes with exfat--if you are original owner it should be fat32
you can also use partition programs like gparted or sdformatter that should list the sdcard and say how it is formatted--
either way backup sdcard first and even phone
MohJee said:
I'm using directory bind (latest version) on exfat and it works fine for me. You can just put the card in your computer and go to its propertes, it will tell you which format it is on.
64GB micro sd cards usually come with exfat format out of the box. 32GB usually FAT32
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i think most sdcards are fat32 by default--may be wrong--but you can research phone specs or Google sdcard specs for n2.
Not aware any card comes with exfat--if you are original owner it should be fat32
you can also use partition programs like gparted or sdformatter that should list the sdcard and say how it is formatted--
either way backup sdcard first and even phone
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i press propoties on the n7100 when i connect the phone to the computer but not any intresting information
MohJee,
makes sense that some 64gb cards would come exfat--need to pay attn to that when I get phone
I have a SanDisk 64gb card which is formatted Fat32.
I've been running it without issue for a few months.
45gb is being used.
I wanted to transfer the files to my pc, and have a few questions/comments:
- after transferring my files I want to format to exFAT
- will my files that were on my Fat32 card be able to be transferred to my exFAT card, as there are a couple of Nandroid, ROM downloads, pics, etc. that I want to transfer back.
- after transferring files to my pc, I was going to place the card back into my S4 and format card from the device. From what I've read, the device will format the card to exFAT. Would this be correct?
There are a couple of reasons I'd like to format the card:
- I want to transfer files to pc, and have some more space on the card, and figured I'd format to exFAT so as not to have file size limitations, although I've yet to dl any 4gb files.
- I'm taking a preemptive strike to avoid possible card issues which may arise in the future. I thought transferring many of the 45gb of files on the card, and re-formatting the card may assist with this, or is this not necessarily true?
If formatting the card and emptying files doesn't reduce the possibility of borking the card in the future, I want to transfer files anyway, in addition to having the card in exFAT unless there is a downside to this format.
Tia......
I recommend keeping it at Fat32. The phone won't read ExFat.
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Biker1 said:
I have a SanDisk 64gb card which is formatted Fat32.
I've been running it without issue for a few months.
45gb is being used.
I wanted to transfer the files to my pc, and have a few questions/comments:
- after transferring my files I want to format to exFAT
- will my files that were on my Fat32 card be able to be transferred to my exFAT card, as there are a couple of Nandroid, ROM downloads, pics, etc. that I want to transfer back.
- after transferring files to my pc, I was going to place the card back into my S4 and format card from the device. From what I've read, the device will format the card to exFAT. Would this be correct?
There are a couple of reasons I'd like to format the card:
- I want to transfer files to pc, and have some more space on the card, and figured I'd format to exFAT so as not to have file size limitations, although I've yet to dl any 4gb files.
- I'm taking a preemptive strike to avoid possible card issues which may arise in the future. I thought transferring many of the 45gb of files on the card, and re-formatting the card may assist with this, or is this not necessarily true?
If formatting the card and emptying files doesn't reduce the possibility of borking the card in the future, I want to transfer files anyway, in addition to having the card in exFAT unless there is a downside to this format.
Tia......
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Shouldn't be a problems with what you're wanting to do.
-Copy sd card contents to PC
-Reformat and copy content back
-Make sure the recovery you're using can read exFAT (both TWRP and Philz CWM can read exFAT)
-Also be sure the kernel support exFAT or your phone might not boot up.
-There's pros and cons to each format but for regular user like myself it's not something I really worry about
blackknightavalon said:
I recommend keeping it at Fat32. The phone won't read ExFat.
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The phone out of the box should read exFAT. It's when using different kernels that does not support exFAT it will not read.
baseballfanz said:
Should be a problems with what you're wanting to do.
-Copy sd card contents to PC
-Reformat and copy content back
-Make sure the recovery you're using can read exFAT (both TWRP and Philz CWM can read exFAT)
-Also be sure the kernel support exFAT or your phone might not boot up.
-There's pros and cons to each format but for regular user like myself it's not something I really worry about
The phone out of the box should read exFAT. It's when using different kernels that does not support exFAT it will not read.
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Last night, I:
- copied 45gb data from card to pc - 50 minutes
- I've read about the kernels and the format to be used
- decided to keep card @ Fat32 : "If it Ain't Broke, Don't Fix It" applies here
- I haven't deleted files yet, or formatted
I formatted the card once before using my pc and www.easeus.com
I found this also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1773735&page=2
But most likely will use the easeus method, which is also in that thread.
I'll take another look, but does formatting the card using the S4 format to exFAT or Fat32?
I thought it was exFAT, buy info or mis info is all over the place.
I've not used the on phone format feature yet.
To go from exFat to FAT32 I use Minitool partition
http://download.cnet.com/MiniTool-Partition-Wizard-Home-Edition/3000-2094_4-10962200.html
To go from FAT32 to exFat I just used the Windows PC formatting feature.
baseballfanz said:
I've not used the on phone format feature yet.
To go from exFat to FAT32 I use Minitool partition
http://download.cnet.com/MiniTool-Partition-Wizard-Home-Edition/3000-2094_4-10962200.html
To go from FAT32 to exFat I just used the Windows PC formatting feature.
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I'm on Fat32 already.
Is re-formatting an exercise in futility?
I was thinking to re-format because:
- after months of making Nandroids without issue, I had trouble recently Booting after backing up to extSdCard. I'd freeze on Samsung splash after multiple backup attempts.
I backed up to internal and booted fine. I dont know if this was coincidence, but figured I'd format for good measure. Otherwise, the extSdCard is running without issue.
Not sure there even is an issue.
I actually had a successful Nandroid to extSdCard card afterwards.
Just thinking out loud.
I'll probably just empty the card of some gb, and not format.
Biker1 said:
I'm on Fat32 already.
Is re-formatting an exercise in futility?
I was thinking to re-format because:
- after months of making Nandroids without issue, I had trouble recently Booting after backing up to extSdCard. I'd freeze on Samsung splash after multiple backup attempts.
I backed up to internal and booted fine. I dont know if this was coincidence, but figured I'd format for good measure. Otherwise, the extSdCard is running without issue.
Not sure there even is an issue.
I actually had a successful Nandroid to extSdCard card afterwards.
Just thinking out loud.
I'll probably just empty the card of some gb, and not format.
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Formatting is a breeze. I've gone from exFAT to FAT32 and vice versa without a problems. Both was achieved in minutes, only time consuming is copying contents to and from sd card.
I was also having troubles with TWRP not booting past Samsung splash screen and I was on exFAT at the time.
Like you have mentioned I only got that problems since flashing with Aroma and never before that.
I've since switch over to Philz CWM and everything is OK (except nandroid backup take ages:laugh
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I recommend keeping it at Fat32. The phone won't read ExFat.
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I'm sorry but this is an incorrect statement. Samsung has supported exFat on 64GB cards only on both the Galaxy S3 and S4. Their initial implementation was buggy but they did work the kinks out.
Here are the disadvantages to using FAT32 on 64GB cards:
Fat32 only supports files up to 4GB - 1 (technically 4,294,967,295 bytes) in length. A high definition video today takes up to 4GB per hour of video (even more sometimes). This limits the size of movies you can store.
The maximum size of a directory (actual number of bytes of the directory itself, not number of files) is limited to 65,5355 bytes. Considering that each directory entry takes up 32 bytes that limits the number of files in a single directory to 2047 entries if long file names are not used. With files names longer than 8 characters that number gets reduced significantly. That is a problem for apps like Titanium backup that use lots of files or if you have a lot of MP3s.
I have been using exFat on my 64GTB SDXC memory cards on both my S3 and my s4 without any problems after Samsung fixed the initial bugs.
You should not encounter any problems copying files from your FAT32 card to your PC and then copying them back to an exFat card. I have done that several times.
@ChitownWingMan
Some good info there re capacities and such.
Earlier I decided to keep the format at Fat32, and didn't re format
If it ain't broke, don't fix it, as they say.
I also understand that exFat is Kernel sensitive, so I'd be limited to wha I can flash
Owe ya a Thanks. My daily 8 limit ran out
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@ChitownWingMan
Some good info there re capacities and such.
Earlier I decided to keep the format at Fat32, and didn't re format
If it ain't broke, don't fix it, as they say.
I also understand that exFat is Kernel sensitive, so I'd be limited to wha I can flash
Owe ya a Thanks. My daily 8 limit ran out
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Your welcome. I was one of the first people to report the exFat bug in the original release of the S3 and I worked with Sandisk and Samsung to identify it as a bug.
I actually tried to run NTFS for a while but I couldn't find a decent implementation for Android and EXT2, EXT3 or EXT4 have little or no support on Windows.
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I'm sorry but this is an incorrect statement. Samsung has supported exFat on 64GB cards only on both the Galaxy S3 and S4. Their initial implementation was buggy but they did work the kinks out.
Here are the disadvantages to using FAT32 on 64GB cards:
Fat32 only supports files up to 4GB - 1 (technically 4,294,967,295 bytes) in length. A high definition video today takes up to 4GB per hour of video (even more sometimes). This limits the size of movies you can store.
The maximum size of a directory (actual number of bytes of the directory itself, not number of files) is limited to 65,5355 bytes. Considering that each directory entry takes up 32 bytes that limits the number of files in a single directory to 2047 entries if long file names are not used. With files names longer than 8 characters that number gets reduced significantly. That is a problem for apps like Titanium backup that use lots of files or if you have a lot of MP3s.
I have been using exFat on my 64GTB SDXC memory cards on both my S3 and my s4 without any problems after Samsung fixed the initial bugs.
You should not encounter any problems copying files from your FAT32 card to your PC and then copying them back to an exFat card. I have done that several times.
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Ahh, this again. Since Ubuntu doesn't read exFat, you'll understand my reluctance to reformat.
blackknightavalon said:
Ahh, this again. Since Ubuntu doesn't read exFat, you'll understand my reluctance to reformat.
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I just googled "ubuntu exfat" and came up with more than a dozen websites with instructions on how to install and use exfat on Ubuntu.
Good luck...
I have done exactly what the OP mentioned - with 32 GB SD card. I copied all files to my computer, formatted the SD card from its original FAT-32 to exFAT, using an SD-card adapter. With quick format that only takes 2 seconds. Then copied all files back to the card, stuck it in my Galaxy S4 (Build VRUEMJ7, if that's important). And it works fine - all the files are readable on the phone - music, video, .doc, .xls, .ppt. , mp3 , No problems.
TWRP recovery has support for ExFAT since v2.4.0.0.
Now I've been through, I think, 5 or 6 different 64 gb cards only to have each one corrupted or simply not work right. I always get to the point where I'm copying my music to the card when after a few hours, BAM, everything is gone. I've tried different ways, different types of cards and different hardware to get these cards to work but nothing I seem to do works.
Does anyone know of a foolproof way of getting a 64gb card to work with a T999?
i have a sandisk 64gb formatted as fat32 and its been working fine for 2 years
tw39515 said:
i have a sandisk 64gb formatted as fat32 and its been working fine for 2 years
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Did you have any problems getting a 64gb card working prior to this one, did you do anything special for it to work?
Up until the 64gb card, I would pop in a card, transfer everything form my old card and be on my merry way. this is the first time I ran into any problems.
i did have some issues at first when the card was formatted extfat
Are you using cm or touchwiz? And how is the SD card formatted? I just use mine on exFAT with touchwiz and have had 0 problems with both my S3 and S4
I got my new 64gb card. Formatted it to FAT32 using windows 8. Transferred all my music and stuff over to it using win 8. Double checked to make sure everything was there. Put it in my phone and mounted it using CWM and bam, music only goes up to B. Everything else was gone. WTF?
Why does this keep happening. I've tried all different types of cards (except Sandisk for some reason), tried it on both touchwiz and CM (which I'm using now), different ways of formatting (through phone and through the computer. Used Exfat and Fat32), different ways of transferring the data and something always happens when I put it in the phone. Either it destroys the card or some of the data is missing. At least the card still works.
Have you tried copying it to your card while plugged in? Try only copying small chunks at a time.
If youre currently on cm though it really doesnt surprise me that you might be having problems.
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