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Temporarily using a Blackberry 9650 while I decide which phone I want to buy. Had the EVO LTE for a few weeks last month and I enjoyed it, but did notice a couple of glaring performance issues mainly when heavily multi-tasking. I'm going to walk into the Sprint store today and have some hands-on with the GS3 to see if I can replicate these kinds of problems on it also (seeing as they run the same SoC).
So what made you pick one over the other? The main reason I'm leaning toward the GS3 now is because of the 2gb of RAM, which makes it seem a little more future proof. The EVO LTE looks and feels better, and also has a better camera (although I really don't like HTC's camera software). The screens are both great. Another thing that really worries me about the GS3 is radio/GPS issues. The EVO LTE was great in this department, and historically this hasn't been Samsung's strongpoint, so if anyone who has the phone and would like to chime in please feel free!
Sorry if this gets asked a lot, and I know that "just try them both and pick whichever you prefer" seems best for most, but I'm the type of person that also likes to get opinions from other techies, just in case there's something I'm overlooking
I heard the EVO has a "reboot problem" in the OS, causing it to randomly reboot often. As far as hardware goes, the EVO might just have the upper hand (I'm speaking mostly due to camera).
What contributes to the opinion that the camera is better on the EVO? I feel quite the opposite. I hear the new Sense is like dropping anchor at full speed. I also bow to the mighty God Odin, fixer of bootloops restorer of stock roms. I like the Gorilla Glass, not sure if EVO has been upgraded to that. Samsung does take forever with updates (though we've had 2 already) but they don't release crap updates. Either HTC has some whiny fans or their updates aren't really top-notch. Samsung phones tend to feel more organic in shape in my hand. I find it to be the difference between driving and older honda versus an old volvo. Some people love boxy. I also feel like Samsung is headed in the right direction. After HTC lost the Nexus they seemed to lose their steam. At thsi point Apple is looking desperate against the momentum of Samsung. Makes me feel like I'm backing a strong horse.
I personally just think I've seen it all with sense, one of my major reasons was that I had a galaxy note before the evo lte and I got use to the feeling of big phones, I found the evo to be a bit too narrow, the s3 is slightly wider. Also multi tasking was kinda horrible on the evo lte. With that being said I didn't root the evo because I had the intention of returning it for the s3 from day one, so maybe i would've enjoyed it more if it was rooted
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2GB RAM, removable battery, removable/additional storage through MicroSD (up to 64GB).
Another thing that really worries me about the GS3 is radio/GPS issues
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I can't speak for everyone but here on Long Island those issues haven't existed or manifested themselves. Cell radio is fine, 3G coverage is the same as not better then my previous phone (Original Galaxy, Epic 4G) and GPS has been super quick to lock (after the hassle that was the Epic in terms of GPS it's like night and day, and I use GPS for my work every day at least 3 times a day).
Also I haven't played enough with the new Sense but the new version of Touchwiz overall is full of good customization and doesn't seem to be too annoying (out of the box it can be, but you can adjust most of it away).
Overall it's hard to find too much fault, some people find issues with AMOLED screens, and while the 'haze' was noticeable on my Epic up close, the GS3 has such a high PPI that I don't notice it.
Few things that turned me off of the EVO LTE: No removable storage, No swappable battery (GS3 does actually get very good battery life but I'm a power-user by habit and always like to have a quick-swap spare available) and that EpicCM team wasn't a part of the community (I'm sure the EVO has wonderful dev's as well, a buddy of mine does dev for it with the at&t version, but after following the CM7->CM9 progress on the Epic, as well as all the rest of the Sprint/Samsung dev community, I'm happy to stick with it).
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What contributes to the opinion that the camera is better on the EVO? I feel quite the opposite. I hear the new Sense is like dropping anchor at full speed. I also bow to the mighty God Odin, fixer of bootloops restorer of stock roms. I like the Gorilla Glass, not sure if EVO has been upgraded to that. Samsung does take forever with updates (though we've had 2 already) but they don't release crap updates. Either HTC has some whiny fans or their updates aren't really top-notch. Samsung phones tend to feel more organic in shape in my hand. I find it to be the difference between driving and older honda versus an old volvo. Some people love boxy. I also feel like Samsung is headed in the right direction. After HTC lost the Nexus they seemed to lose their steam. At thsi point Apple is looking desperate against the momentum of Samsung. Makes me feel like I'm backing a strong horse.
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Well the HTC One X camera uses a BSI sensor and f/2.0 lens. What it translates to in real-world usage is anyone's guess, but on paper the camera is supposed to be better.
punzada said:
2GB RAM, removable battery, removable/additional storage through MicroSD (up to 64GB).
I can't speak for everyone but here on Long Island those issues haven't existed or manifested themselves. Cell radio is fine, 3G coverage is the same as not better then my previous phone (Original Galaxy, Epic 4G) and GPS has been super quick to lock (after the hassle that was the Epic in terms of GPS it's like night and day, and I use GPS for my work every day at least 3 times a day).
Also I haven't played enough with the new Sense but the new version of Touchwiz overall is full of good customization and doesn't seem to be too annoying (out of the box it can be, but you can adjust most of it away).
Overall it's hard to find too much fault, some people find issues with AMOLED screens, and while the 'haze' was noticeable on my Epic up close, the GS3 has such a high PPI that I don't notice it.
Few things that turned me off of the EVO LTE: No removable storage, No swappable battery (GS3 does actually get very good battery life but I'm a power-user by habit and always like to have a quick-swap spare available) and that EpicCM team wasn't a part of the community (I'm sure the EVO has wonderful dev's as well, a buddy of mine does dev for it with the at&t version, but after following the CM7->CM9 progress on the Epic, as well as all the rest of the Sprint/Samsung dev community, I'm happy to stick with it).
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The EVO LTE also has a MicroSD slot , but you're right, now removable battery. Although personally that was never really a negative since it was ample size (2000mah).
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The EVO LTE also has a MicroSD slot , but you're right, now removable battery. Although personally that was never really a negative since it was ample size (2000mah).
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Oh, apparently I was wrong about that, is it the one x that doesn't? maybe I'm going crazy
The only thing that I can say that I didn't like about the evo was: the non removable battery, lack of multitasking. But I do miss the screen and that awesome camera button.
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I had the evo lte and loved it but the only thing tgat annoyed me was the weak antenna it woukd always drop dignal and also the evo lte has better cam than sg3 and also evo lte feels more sturdy the sg3 is a goid phone also pretty fast and good multy tasking i dont mind the non removable vattery on evo lte but both great phones also negative about sg3 ut feels very plasticky
Im on my SG3
SG3:
Good:
easy to root, install rom
removable battery
universal accessories (all versions including international can use same accessories)
very good loudspeaker
Bad:
battery drains quick compare to the Evo Lte
it does not feel like solid phone (like it can break easily)
slow charging (as with most Samsung)
Evo LTE:
Good:
Excellent battery life
Excellent fit and finish
Phone feels solid
kickstand
camera
music player with soundhound integration
fast charging (as with most HTC phones)
Bad:
non removable battery (my biggest complaint) I stream sports videos a lot so I go through batteries like crazy
dialer cannot send text, have to use messaging app separately
when you click on a phone number from a link or text you are forced to use the phone/dial pad instead of the messaging app (very annoying) I think it is Apple lawsuit related
no quick toggles from drop down menu
loudspeaker volume is too low
Man, I was heavily leaning towards the GS3 until today. I went to the Sprint store on my lunch break and played with both phones extensively, and in the end the GS3 suffered from the same performance issues the LTEVO did, so I'm guessing it's maybe related to ICS? To be more specific, I'm picky. I like having a phone that switches from task to task very quickly (I felt my Epic 4G Touch did that very well). So for example, if I'm on the app store downloading app after app, the phones will begin to slow a little during installs if I switching from screen to screen. I thought at first it was maybe the LTEVO, but I was able to replicate that behavior on the GS3 also, so it's safe to say that the 2gb of RAM isn't really needed, or is at least not helping any of the "real world" tests I tried.
Also, the camera on the LTEVO is quite a bit better. It was both faster, and offered better quality shots more consistently. HTC's camera software absolutely sucks, but I think the camera unit is better. I tested the macro settings and they were significantly better on the LTEVO. Basically, I could focus on things closer to the lens compared to the GS3.
So I think I'm going to pick the LTEVO again. I don't want anyone to think that I'm bashing the GS3. In all honesty either of those phones are an absolute great choice since they are extremely similar where it counts, and really only different in the personal preference areas (such as look, build, removable battery, etc). Performance is just about the same on both phones. I hope this thread was as helpful to someone else as it was to me
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SG3:
Good:
easy to root, install rom
removable battery
universal accessories (all versions including international can use same accessories)
very good loudspeaker
Bad:
battery drains quick compare to the Evo Lte
it does not feel like solid phone (like it can break easily)
slow charging (as with most Samsung)
Evo LTE:
Good:
Excellent battery life
Excellent fit and finish
Phone feels solid
kickstand
camera
music player with soundhound integration
fast charging (as with most HTC phones)
Bad:
non removable battery (my biggest complaint) I stream sports videos a lot so I go through batteries like crazy
dialer cannot send text, have to use messaging app separately
when you click on a phone number from a link or text you are forced to use the phone/dial pad instead of the messaging app (very annoying) I think it is Apple lawsuit related
no quick toggles from drop down menu
loudspeaker volume is too low
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For the EVO LTE bad list, you sound like you're nitpicking for a longer list. How many people send texts through the dialer? The HTCLinkify thing can be removed (so the click on a phone number thing is fixable), the EVO LTE has a button in the notification to get into settings (not as good as toggles, but not as bad as "nothing"). the loud speaker being too low is arbitrary.
You also left out some cons for the SGS3. There's a LOT of proprietary software that isn't very good (sounds like Sense doesn't it?), S-Voice is a gimmick.
There's just as many Sense haters as there are Touchwiz haters...it all comes down to preference. I'm going for the LTE because it's many of the same developers who's softwares I've been using since the OG EVO. Can't beat that pedigree. For most people, though, it's a question of would they rather be bloated down by Touchwiz and have a blue phone or be bloated down by HTC Sense and have a black phone with a kickstand. Otherwise, the specs are too identical to even consider voting one way or the other.
I was in love with the new evo, and when I saw my employee pricing through best buy for the gs3 I fell in love with it more ahaha. Some doof in corporate marked it 350 off contract so I traded in my 3d and it payed for it. But after playing with my friends evo, I realized that I liked my phone better. Touchwiz 5 is great IMO and I was ready to try something other than a HTC phone.
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What contributes to the opinion that the camera is better on the EVO? I feel quite the opposite. I hear the new Sense is like dropping anchor at full speed. I also bow to the mighty God Odin, fixer of bootloops restorer of stock roms. I like the Gorilla Glass, not sure if EVO has been upgraded to that. Samsung does take forever with updates (though we've had 2 already) but they don't release crap updates. Either HTC has some whiny fans or their updates aren't really top-notch. Samsung phones tend to feel more organic in shape in my hand. I find it to be the difference between driving and older honda versus an old volvo. Some people love boxy. I also feel like Samsung is headed in the right direction. After HTC lost the Nexus they seemed to lose their steam. At thsi point Apple is looking desperate against the momentum of Samsung. Makes me feel like I'm backing a strong horse.
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Yes Odin is awesome
I completely agree
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I owned both and I really wanted to like the evo lte over the s3. I really liked the screen of the evo lte, kickstand, build quality, the dedicated camera button, it was black, and the overall look of it was very cool. It's a shame that the way the multitasking worked on it was really retarded (not sure if this could be fixed by a software update or custom rom). Not only that but the lack of a replaceable battery is really a killer too.
I guess the s3 won me over because of the replaceable battery, the crazy development that will be going on for it, the fact that multitasking didn't have to reload every single time I changed back to a program, and how I could keep programs in my memory to make them smoother (2gb).
there are already a ton of gs3 vs evolte threads bro
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I owned both and I really wanted to like the evo lte over the s3. I really liked the screen of the evo lte, kickstand, build quality, the dedicated camera button, it was black, and the overall look of it was very cool. It's a shame that the way the multitasking worked on it was really retarded (not sure if this could be fixed by a software update or custom rom). Not only that but the lack of a replaceable battery is really a killer too.
I guess the s3 won me over because of the replaceable battery, the crazy development that will be going on for it, the fact that multitasking didn't have to reload every single time I changed back to a program, and how I could keep programs in my memory to make them smoother (2gb).
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Exactly my experience and thoughts. +1
Before even reading the rest of the replies I'll post my 2ยข. Just picked up the Galaxy S3 on Monday evening.
I had the EVO 4G original at release and LOVED LOVED LOVED IT - then last June it, along with half my electronics at home, was the victim of a lightning hit down the alley on one of the transformers. Fortunately my computer gear survived. But I digress. From the EVO 4G I went to the EVO 3D, which, while the phone itself was OK, there wasn't as much of a development community out there for it as some other phones, my OG EVO especially. Cyanogen never came out for it in a year, and battery life ended up being worse and worse over time. If I'd kept the OG EVO I'd probably have been in a much different frame of mind regarding HTC's phones, but the 3D was just not their greatest hit.
Ultimately, I was torn between the 4G LTE and S3 - got both in my hands to play with and was still torn. Ultimately, I didn't want another HTC 'black slab' and I learned to dislike Sense more and more, since many of the higher functioning ROMs out there were Sense-based and I had to run ADW or another launcher on top of it.
So far I couldn't be happier with my choice. I got the blue, no case (maybe I will), and have not rooted (yet). I like the touchwiz interface, have pared down my homescreens to only 4 like I prefer, and battery life is outstanding! I am going to let it discharge all the way and see how long I can squeeze out of it. It's the idle/standby time that is so outstanding in my mind. Only a few percentage points gone overnight as opposed to 30-40% with the EVO 3D.
Oh, and the screen on this thing is amazing. So clear and sharp and beautiful...and as big as cellphone screens should ever get! Seriously.
Because of one thing - the name
Saying "Galaxy S3" is much easier than Saying "Sprint EVO 4G LTE". But don't listen to us. Walk, ride, skip or fly over to your nearest sprint store and see for yourself. The GS3 has 2GB of ram which is really awesome when multitasking. If you ask me all high end devices should have 2GB of ram. Other than that it's about the build. The EVO has a nicer screen, it feels like a solid brick that could hurt someone, and it has a kick stand. The GS3 feels soft like a babies bottom or a mammary and it looks super awesome also like a mammary. Amirite?
I actually feel differently on the aspect of development. I came from the OG EVO also, and dev support on that thing was amazing. From that I "upgraded" to the EVO 3D, but soon thereafter switched to the Epic 4G Touch as soon as it launched. Dev support just wasn't there for the EVO 3D. After I did some research, it made sense (no pun intended), but the EVO 3D was doomed from the start. What I mean by that is that it was never intended to be the true successor to the OG EVO, and thus not a lot of devs followed the device. Made perfect sense. The Epic 4G Touch had *better* dev support, but it still wasn't anywhere near what the OG EVO had.
I guess either way it's too early to tell which of the two (LTEVO and GS3) is going to have better dev support, but for some reason my gut is telling me that the LTEVO will.
I don't know if I agree with the 2gb of RAM on a phone just yet. iOS is a pretty crappy multi-tasking OS, yet the iPhone 4S only has 512mb of RAM and it's still a very good performing phone by today's standards. I also tested the SG3 (as mentioned in one of my previous posts), and it suffered from the same performance issues the LTEVO did when running it through my personal "real world" tests. So at least in my experience, the 2gb didn't seem to help the SG3.
Either way, both great phones. No clear winner over the other, when taking everything into consideration
I got my HOX just over two months ago but as much I love using this phone, there are a few things that just bug me. I had a Desire S before the One X and a Desire before that. Compared to the Desire S it is much faster and I am glad I upgraded, but I still have a few gripes. I have have been considering switching to the Galaxy SIII since my brother has it and it looks and feels better then I thought. Is it worth switching? Or are there some tips that can help me get past these problems. Here is a comparison of the things I love and hate about the HOX.
Love:
- The beautiful screen. Best screen I have ever used/seen on a phone hands down. When I leave my phone beside me after using it and the screen is still on, the viewing angles still surprise me. I have compared to the S3 screen and it pretty much trumps it in every way apart from the blacks. One of the best features of the phone.
- Sense. I've never rooted or installed my own custom roms onto a phone and even though I was thinking about it, I would prefer to keep my warranty intact and I enjoy sense. Obviously a matter of opinion but I love using sense as it feels very organized and I use some of the features like text reflow on the browser, smart dialer and car dock mode a lot, and I love the tons of widgets available. Touchwiz on the other hand is just bleugh. Too cartoony for my taste and just feels all over the place.
- Camera. Even though it isn't the best in low light condition, I love the widescreen pictures, and in decent light or even with the flash, the pictures are very, very clear. Also the camera interface is brilliant.
- Design. Love the unibody design, curved screen, drilled speaker holes and the led under the grill.
Hate:
- Battery Life. How do I describe the battery life on this phone. So damn inconsistent. Some days I can get 15h with 2.5h screen time. While some I get 8h with just over 1h screen time. I just don't get it. No matter what I do I won't get over 3h of screen time. Standby time on the phone is brilliant, but as soon I switch on the screen, the battery level just plunges. I never used to look at my battery level this much on a phone.
- Multitasking. I have tried some fixes, but as soon as I open more then 2 things at once, apps start to close. I am browsing the internet, switch to send a text message and come back after a minute or two, the page reloads. The same happens with games and other apps. I find myself hurrying to reply to a text in less then 20 seconds otherwise that app is restarting. This does not seem to happen on the S3.
- WiFi. Connection when using the WiFi on the HOX is fine. It is just when the phone is left on standby for too long, all data cuts off. As soon as I switch on the screen, connections fire up again, and all emails start flowing in. This doesn't happen all the time and is very random.
- Big nipple on the back of phone. Even though it looks cool, the way the camera sticks out is a strange design by htc. I am worried about scratching the glass every time I put down the phone. I'm not a big fan of using cases, but I am forced to as I would hate a scratched lens.
I have thought about switching to GS3 but I don't know, I just don't find it very appealing.
What do you think? Anyone share my views? Anyone feel there is a way past these problems. Even though the HOX has problems I still love it, but as much I enjoy using this phone, I need something that will work properly. My decision on switching phone is about 80% staying with the phone 20% switch to the GS3. I can't really imagine switching phones, but was just hoping for any suggestions to solve these problems.
What do you guys think? Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks
Broken GPS made me root and rom in the end, it was the deal breaker. The dislikes were a big factor. I thought I used to like Sense (went from Samsung Omnia HD > HTC Desire > Iphone 4S > Galaxy Nexus > HTC One X), but after coming from a Galaxy Nexus (vanilla ICS) I realized the error of my ways.
Dislike:
1. Sense (choppy UI, reduced functionality and still doesn't necessarily look better...eg task switcher, browser tab switcher)
2. Sense UI would reload all the time
3. Sound was crackling in videos
4. HTC Updates few and far between and don't fix anything
Like:
1. Screen
2. Unibody design
mujj said:
- WiFi. Connection when using the WiFi on the HOX is fine. It is just when the phone is left on standby for too long, all data cuts off. As soon as I switch on the screen, connections fire up again, and all emails start flowing in. This doesn't happen all the time and is very random.
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In the mail app under settings, did you already check the sync schedule? By default it turns off syncing in the evening and in the weekend
I have both. My gs3 is in mothballs. Waiting to sell it when a new phone comes out.
I used the one x from launch until July when I got the s3. I used the s3 for three weeks before finally calling it quits.
Reasons why I chose hox over s3.
Hox with sense is just miles ahead because of
Productivity software built in, mail, google tasks sync, evernote sync.
The mail app in sense is so good that I use it primarily instead of my blackberry mail. My blackberry is now used only for bbm. The less said about the s3 email app, the better. It is just pathetic.
Contacts integration with social networks.
The sense ui is far far ahead of anything in my opinion in the android ecosystem.
The phone radio is again far superior to s3.
The sense dialer is the best of any phone out there.
How can I forget the gorgeous screen. Again its by far the best that I have ever seen.
The HTC sense keyboard is good that I use it over swiftkey and thumb keyboard. The trace feature is amazing as well.
Friendstream is another winner for me.
Using sense means that I don't need extra apps for mail, tasks, notes and social networks. It's all built in.
Am not much of a gamer, play angry birds and stick cricket on occassions and hox does well.
Only shortfall is inconsistent battery. But I carry around a small Belkin portable battery pack in case I run low. Have only had to use it a couple of times though.
Sd card is subjective, most of my pictures are on drop box and on picasa so my storage is used for music. Some may want more space so having an external sd card is nice.
Cameras I actually preferred the s3 but the difference is marginal.
In short if you like an integrated productive ui and don't measure speed in micro seconds then hox is better.
If you love aosp, cheezy features like smart stay and s voice and love flashing tons just to get rid of the horrible horrible touch wiz ui and require an external sd card for 30 odd gb more then go for s3.
Again this is my opinion based on owning and using both phones. I also own and use a blackberry and an iPad so an well aware of the pros and cons of each phone and ui.
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With WIFI data-connectivity, I think there is some 'smart' (although disputed) functionality that disables WIFI through the night. This has been discussed on the forum before and a way to disable that.
My advice would be to stick with the device for at least another two weeks so that you get the new OTA update to 4.0.4. There are many good things said about that update throughout here, esp. UI speed, enhanced multi-tasking, three dot fix, etc that brings out the real tegra 3 power from the device. I too am waiting for that OTA or will flash an RUU if that arrives earlier. Or you could not wait and root the device and flash the linked ROM. Your call!
I don't have an issue with the Samsung per se, but it does not look as polished a device as the One X is and it doesn't feel that someone spent time designing and crafting the device but instead moulding plastic panels that make the S3. Samsung has historically preferred plastic (and amoled screens) on their devices and I am not a big fan of them at least not now when competitors are using advanced materials.
BTW, your camera description is hillarious....
not going to go into an essay i will just say this. i had first an iphone and was always an iphone user..then i switched over the galaxy s2...i still say for me that is the best damn phone i ever had. now the HOX i will say this. i love it in everyway and specially love how the music sounds on this and the camera is amazing...but if you are one of them who love rooting and flashing and customizing your phone with ease then your best bet is the S3.
if i had the choice i would stick with the One X as for user experience it is far more better than the S3 due to T3 for games and beats as well for music....it is down to you really what you want to go for both phones are great it is just down to you at the end of the day...i say stick with your One X for now and wait for the Nexus to come out...
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With WIFI data-connectivity, I think there is some 'smart' (although disputed) functionality that disables WIFI through the night. This has been discussed on the forum before and a way to disable that.
My advice would be to stick with the device for at least another two weeks so that you get the new OTA update to 4.0.4. There are many good things said about that update throughout here, esp. UI speed, enhanced multi-tasking, three dot fix, etc that brings out the real tegra 3 power from the device. I too am waiting for that OTA or will flash an RUU if that arrives earlier. Or you could not wait and root the device and flash the linked ROM. Your call!
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I like the idea of the three dot fix and if multitasking is improved and the WiFi problem fixed that would be brilliant. But I doubt the battery will get any better. Hope this update hits the UK soon. Thanks
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TBH battery life too is quoted as improved with the screen time easily over 5+ hours from 3+ (I think this was from the CNET article)...Anyways I don't worry about battery life nowadays as we all are surrounded by easily accessible power sources, be it the car or office and can always top up if need be.
I suggest you read up some articles on what is fixed in the 2.15* fix or in the 4.0.4 update on the AT&T One X. If you think the fixes are what you'd like on your phone, then stick with it.
skywalker1970 said:
I have both. My gs3 is in mothballs. Waiting to sell it when a new phone comes out.
I used the one x from launch until July when I got the s3. I used the s3 for three weeks before finally calling it quits.
Reasons why I chose hox over s3.
Hox with sense is just miles ahead because of
Productivity software built in, mail, google tasks sync, evernote sync.
The mail app in sense is so good that I use it primarily instead of my blackberry mail. My blackberry is now used only for bbm. The less said about the s3 email app, the better. It is just pathetic.
Contacts integration with social networks.
The sense ui is far far ahead of anything in my opinion in the android ecosystem.
The phone radio is again far superior to s3.
The sense dialer is the best of any phone out there.
How can I forget the gorgeous screen. Again its by far the best that I have ever seen.
The HTC sense keyboard is good that I use it over swiftkey and thumb keyboard. The trace feature is amazing as well.
Friendstream is another winner for me.
Using sense means that I don't need extra apps for mail, tasks, notes and social networks. It's all built in.
Am not much of a gamer, play angry birds and stick cricket on occassions and hox does well.
Only shortfall is inconsistent battery. But I carry around a small Belkin portable battery pack in case I run low. Have only had to use it a couple of times though.
Sd card is subjective, most of my pictures are on drop box and on picasa so my storage is used for music. Some may want more space so having an external sd card is nice.
Cameras I actually preferred the s3 but the difference is marginal.
In short if you like an integrated productive ui and don't measure speed in micro seconds then hox is better.
If you love aosp, cheezy features like smart stay and s voice and love flashing tons just to get rid of the horrible horrible touch wiz ui and require an external sd card for 30 odd gb more then go for s3.
Again this is my opinion based on owning and using both phones. I also own and use a blackberry and an iPad so an well aware of the pros and cons of each phone and ui.
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Touchwiz is less intrusive than sense.. Using a different launcher pretty much disguises most of it whereas sense is everywhere on the HOX.
I originally subscribed to the school of thought that the siii was a hideous blob "supported" a by a ridiculous marketing campaign, but having actually used an s3 I am impressed and Touchwiz is much improved.
I am going to swap to an s3, mainly because the HOX is the first Android phone where I've felt forced to root just to make the phone usable. The screen and design do not make up for the crap Multiasking, sense constantly reloading, hogging ram and rubbish battery life. I wouldn't mind if I actually had the option to change these things (e.g. Removable battery, memory expansion etc) but I dont.
I'm sick and tired of the bugs, and hardware faults. I've had screen flicker, Wifi problems and what seems eerily similar to death grip. I flashed an asop rom (CM10) and the only thing I slightly missed was the camera interface. With my galaxy s2 there were actually a number of good reasons to stick with stock (hardware video decoding being one)
I'm tired of constantly eyeing my battery, I despise the fact my warranty is now void because I had to root, and the plethora of bugs and defects mine and others have suffered is the reason I'm selling this phone.
Tbh I feel like a lot of this is to do with nvidas overhyped processor, and the rest is htc's inexplicable hostility towards the hacking community and their poor quality control.
Goodbye forever HTC
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Touchwiz is less intrusive than sense.. Using a different launcher pretty much disguises most of it whereas sense is everywhere on the HOX.
I originally subscribed to the school of thought that the siii was a hideous blob "supported" a by a ridiculous marketing campaign, but having actually used an s3 I am impressed and Touchwiz is much improved.
I am going to swap to an s3, mainly because the HOX is the first Android phone where I've felt forced to root just to make the phone usable. The screen and design do not make up for the crap Multiasking, sense constantly reloading, hogging ram and rubbish battery life. I wouldn't mind if I actually had the option to change these things (e.g. Removable battery, memory expansion etc) but I dont.
I'm sick and tired of the bugs, and hardware faults. I've had screen flicker, Wifi problems and what seems eerily similar to death grip. I flashed an asop rom (CM10) and the only thing I slightly missed was the camera interface. With my galaxy s2 there were actually a number of good reasons to stick with stock (hardware video decoding being one)
I'm tired of constantly eyeing my battery, I despise the fact my warranty is now void because I had to root, and the plethora of bugs and defects mine and others have suffered is the reason I'm selling this phone.
Tbh I feel like a lot of this is to do with nvidas overhyped processor, and the rest is htc's inexplicable hostility towards the hacking community and their poor quality control.
Goodbye forever HTC
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The LG optimus 4x HD uses the same processor, but it competes neck to neck w the SGS3 in terms of responsiveness. So it's clearly HTC's part that makes the phone lag.
The camera positioning is a real pain. I don't use a case and already there is some micro scratching on the lens.
The battery issue was almost a deal breaker for me until I rooted and installed a ROM that gives fantastic battery time (Maximus One).
Can't think of any major dislikes apart from those.
Well, everyone will always have an opinion about battery life. Nothing wrong in that. We have all been spoilt by those Nokia phones that lasted the whole week on full charge, haven't we? For me, the One X more than sufficiently lasts the whole day and where it doesn't it can be either attributable to some hardware issue or consumer usage. It shouldn't go flat overnight and I have seen far fewer posts that suggest such behaviour. Everyday that I have put the device on charge, it was already at 50+% and therefore could easily survive another day.
My only gripe is that if HTC had decided that they were going for a unibody design with no SD card expansion, then they should have at least maxed out the battery on it like how the Motorola RAZR MAXX did. This is possible and clearly some other manufacturer will get there. Form factor issues aside, if they were putting in a big screen, etc, then max it out as much as you can. Leaving it to be at 1800mah is like leaving a sore sticking point that will always fail to win consumers, esp. when the S3 has a removable cover, better battery and a SD card expansion slot. Clearly most people can do simple maths and can work out that the Samsung looks preferable with a high capacity battery and would go that way unless they know the things that make the HTC stand out well like screen, UI, etc where the HOX trumps. No one would have complained about anything other than hardware issues then and this phone would have tromped well over any competitors offerings.
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- WiFi. Connection when using the WiFi on the HOX is fine. It is just when the phone is left on standby for too long, all data cuts off. As soon as I switch on the screen, connections fire up again, and all emails start flowing in. This doesn't happen all the time and is very random.
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This is due to SmartSync. You can disable it if yr rooted.
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how do u guys feel about the battery life after the 2.2 update? lasts a few hrs longer for me
Still haven't got it waiting patiently in the UK
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Settings/info/Software info/'Check now'?
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Still haven't got it waiting patiently in the UK
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Did you force the update?
Settings/info/Software info/'Check now'?
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Many...many times
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I have been using Galaxy S3 for the last 2 years, along side 7000 mAh zerlolemon battery.
overall my experience with it, considering it was my first smartphone, was OK.
but now I'm looking for:
a bigger screen & a good looking one! (5.5"+)
better camera (S3's camera sucked!)
better speakers & sound quality overall (i watch YouTube a lot at work, some /movies/TV show as well)
newer & less laggy hardware (S3 is just to old, although i run custom roms on it!).
removable battery & SD card storage.
the LG G3 seems to answer all of my wishes from a new smartphone. but i read about a lot of bugs & defects complaints using google search, which scares me a bit!
what do you guys think? would love to hear your opinions, which will be more valid then online reviews of short use since you had the phone for longer time! good & bad stuff.
I probable will buy the 32GB storage unite, since it has bigger ram & the extra 16G will do only good since the camera files will be heavier compared to the S3!
thanks in advance .
I had used S3 for nearly 2 years as my daily driver and it was a pretty good piece because of it's customizability. But, recently I received the G3 as a birthday gift and even though it's design and hardware impressed me, i felt like something is missing. Sure, it has that beautiful screen, sexy curves, overall amazing design, and an amazing camera but the UI tends to stutter a lot which is really wierd considering the amount of power the snapdragon could deliver. It should have been a child's play, but apparently it isn't. Also, the display has an exagerated software applied sharpening, which to this day i still can't see the benefit of it making your fonts at different sizes look ugly. Furthermore, the hardware gets sometimes so hot from simple tasks making it simply unbeareable for your hands.
When i encountered ocasional lag with my S3 i understood that I was asking too much from an old hardware, but i never expected a new-gen phone to behave like this. We will have to wait and see what improvements the custom roms could bring to the table.
If you spend a lot of time watching and listening videos, the speaker does it's job honorably while the so called premium headphones felt less dynamic than the S3's. At this point, the M8 could be a better deal it's only downside being the display size (- 0.5'' ).
To be honest, I still dont know what to say. I guess i have big expectations from a flagship.
I strongly suggest trying the phone before buying it.
Since S3 is only phone you had any upgrade will be good. Just choose what do you prefer in phone. Htc for speakers, G3 for screen, samsung for water resistance. Battery life and performance are pretty much same for all of them. Try them out all and you will see which one suits you best
I used to have S3 too, only thing I miss is very black screen. But that's about it. G3 is better in every way.
If you dont care about your phone being outdated fast, you can also get Z3
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I myself have switched recently from S3 LTE to the G3.
On the S3 a lot was possible with mods, ROMs and solutions from this great community :good: , it was and is a great phone.
My impressions on the G3 in comparison to S3 LTE are:
+ good speed and responsitivity
+ larger screen is nice
+ input handling (touch screen) seems more responsive to me
+ good signal qualities
+ excellent battery life
- community much less developed (no wonder, its pretty new and bump! is just out)
- wireless charging much more fidgety
- considerable more bulk (well, can't have it all )
- display is not as crisp and bright as with S3
Overall I am happy with the new phone and not looking back.
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Great summary ccs16rocks. My feelings are exact to yours. In order to reduce many of the issues you identified, I had to root, modify, etc but this has not fixed all of the issues. I've changed my framework to ART and launcher to Nova, disabled all animations, scaling, etc. as well to help with stutter and slow downs, that helped dramatically.
After all of the work that I've put into the phone, there are still some things that I cannot fix or improve and I don't think they can be.
-Camera speed: I'm used to iPhone 5/6 performance/speed. There are apps that can speed up shooting, but none can reach the speed of an iPhone. Luckily there are tons of apps out there, if you have the time to try them and find the right one. I've been through a bunch so far and The apps that do work well (speed/performance), usually don't have any other features that seem practical to have integrated into the app. (video, square, panorama, etc)
-Battery life: I'm using a variety of tools/task killers/etc to minimize what's running, eating battery life or slowing the phone down. This varies and I can't seem to find a real solution to extending battery life any longer other than just not using the phone :laugh:
That being said, I'm happy with the phone. The hype over the quality of the camera is odd to me though. Primarily because it's nice, but it isn't that great. Maybe it's better than other Android camera phones?
Another major concern is, with all the rooting/hacking/modding I've done to get the phone to operate more efficiently, I'm curious as to how I can upgrade to Lollipop when it comes out, since LG G3 handsets are getting it soon
Just want to thank everyone who replied .
after reading your comments, i decided to stay with the current S3 and skip the LG G3. although it's specification sound perfect for me, i just don't want to risk getting a new phone with all this possible bugs and defects! I will just wait until the note 4 or nexus 6 drop to a normal price in my country, don't mind waiting 6+ month for that. it's not like the S3 is a bad device, it does the job well enough for now.
If you read enough stuff on the internet ALL phones have stuff wrong with them - To me the G3 has some minor software hic ups with its launcher, nothing that makes it worth not buying.
Make sure not to buy the 16GB version, because the lag is REAL. The colleague from the USA might be delighted with the their 32GB beasts, but as for european costumer who are offered only the 16 giggs... Id be better without it. Seriously guys the europeen version is crap without any serious modifications!
The G3 is a wonderful device. As well I just wanted to say not everybody's phone laggs. I've had my G3 since launch and I only experienced very minimal lag and once I rooted and made a few small changes in trickster mod it's been nothing but good times.
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Make sure not to buy the 16GB version, because the lag is REAL. The colleague from the USA might be delighted with the their 32GB beasts, but as for european costumer who are offered only the 16 giggs... Id be better without it. Seriously guys the europeen version is crap without any serious modifications!
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In EU 32GB with 3Gb RAM version is also available.
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In EU 32GB with 3Gb RAM version is also available.
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Well its not available in SPAIN and Bulgaria carriers.
The Samsung Galaxy S3 has served me well, but it now seems to struggle. Some apps seem to be processor limited, then they open the default web browser and when exiting the browser I find the app restarts which I assume is because of lack of memory.
Likewise, Google Maps can get very sluggish and use up lots of memory when driving a route of over an hours duration. Google could probably make it better, but unlikely if it works OK on more modern phones.
So I'm considering an upgrade to the LG G3, which would mean doubling the RAM from 1GB to 2GB and upping the processor from 1.5Ghz to 2.5Ghz.
Would this make things better? Or is the amount of RAM allocated to user apps similar and so I'll still have the same problems?
I keep seeing people talk about overheating issues and cracks, are these really a problem ?
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The Samsung Galaxy S3 has served me well, but it now seems to struggle. Some apps seem to be processor limited, then they open the default web browser and when exiting the browser I find the app restarts which I assume is because of lack of memory.
Likewise, Google Maps can get very sluggish and use up lots of memory when driving a route of over an hours duration. Google could probably make it better, but unlikely if it works OK on more modern phones.
So I'm considering an upgrade to the LG G3, which would mean doubling the RAM from 1GB to 2GB and upping the processor from 1.5Ghz to 2.5Ghz.
Would this make things better? Or is the amount of RAM allocated to user apps similar and so I'll still have the same problems?
I keep seeing people talk about overheating issues and cracks, are these really a problem ?
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I haven't had a Galaxy SIII. Otherwise I come from a iPhone 4s, and before this I had a Sony-Ericsson Arc S. Personally speaking, I had a lot of problems with the Xperia: continuous rebooting, RAM limits, not software updates, etc. So I felt let down by Android, and I decide to switch to another platform. I can tell that the iPhone worked just fine, but I never felt comfortable in such a closed OS. Reading about technology and gadgets I realized that in three years Android had improved enough and it had become a very mature platform, so I came back to android. I chose the LG G3, because of the good reviews and the better price/value ratio, and I cant tell you that this was a very good decision. To sum up, the LG G3 is a very good device in every single aspect. It's cute, light and has an incredibly screen. Even with its huge 5.5' qHD screen, it's easily one hand managed. I heard complaints about poor battery life, overheating issues and lags. In contrast I never had one single issue: no lags, no overheating, great battery life and an incredible performance.
Last but not least the G3 has matured enough in the community to have a great developer support. Right now you can install Stock based Lollipop ROMs that will make your experience with this phone even better.
I bought my phone in July 2014. If, right now, I'd have to buy a new phone, it'd be the LG G3, again.
I came from S3. Totally new life with G3. No regrets.
I upgraded from an S3 too, no regrets whatshowever, the camera is a bit slower but the quality is so much better. As well as that, the screen is awesome! I strongly advise you to do so
I also upgrade from S3 to G3 (so many 3's )... The difference is huge. Much faster, great screen and not so big (for me is ok).
The only thing that dissapoint me is that in S3 we have so many roms, kernels, tweaks, etc etc and in G3 there are few (but goods )
So, for me, the upgrade is a Must and i'm really happy with that...
If you could get your hands on the 3GB ram version I would highly advise that to make it more future proof (you seem like a guy who wanna keep his phone for a while).
Thanks all, couldn't find a 3GB version, but ebuyer seem to be the cheapest, so bought it from there. Now just need to get them to actually deliver it. They've said they shipped via Yodel, which are not known for good customer service. Last package someone sent via them they lost!
I'll probably have lots of questions once I've got it!
Hi guys, i have a friend who bought G3 not long ago, and he want to replace it with Galaxy S6. let's assume if he would, outside of lower battery, does it really hold any substantial benefit over G3?
Derpling said:
Hi guys, i have a friend who bought G3 not long ago, and he want to replace it with Galaxy S6. let's assume if he would, outside of lower battery, does it really hold any substantial benefit over G3?
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S6:
Better processor
Better RAM
Better Software
Better Camera
Better build quality
I heard the s6 is fragile compared to g3
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Yes
S6:
Better processor
Better RAM
Better Software
Better Camera
Better build quality
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Derping asked: "Does it really hold any substantial benefit over G3?"
I would say no.
What t-shock wrote is mostly true if we compare technical specifications, but hardware benefits are not noticeable in everyday use, and software quality is matter of individual taste..
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Derping asked: "Does it really hold any substantial benefit over G3?"
I would say no.
What t-shock wrote is mostly true if we compare technical specifications, but hardware benefits are not noticeable in everyday use, and software quality is matter of individual taste..
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I own both devices and I will say that s6 feels a bit better that the g3
Screen and camera is the main differences
PS You're absolutely right
My cousin came from the states a few days ago and he has the s6 edge i have the s5 and g3. To be honest i didnt saw that much difference. Well the screen on edge rocks and the camera ummm. Took a pic with my s5 and ne with the edge the same position 4 seconds of difference and i cant say theres a difference. Yeah its new but for me its just that.
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Derpling said:
Hi guys, i have a friend who bought G3 not long ago, and he want to replace it with Galaxy S6. let's assume if he would, outside of lower battery, does it really hold any substantial benefit over G3?
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I'm looking at going backwards actually. From S6 to G3 (or even G4).
"Stupid!" Some would say....
"Ahh, I see what you're doing there..." others would suggest...
I've never had an iPhone (outside of work) and never will. Absolutely hate them. If I want to blend in with the mainstream 'zombie' public, I'd buy one...and so, I pledged allegiance to the Samsung Galaxy flagship on the release of the S1. I Loved the SGS1; thought the S2 (and S2 in 4G) was brilliant in every way and the best in the series. I didn't like the bubble-like screen on S3 (you cant use a screen protector properly) and the S4, S5 and S6 were getting bigger, heavier, more powerful (killing batteries quicker) and lacking in key features that I considered "important" as a user.
My complaints:
1. S6 build. It's advantageously a disadvantage...
The best thing about Samsung for me, was it wasn't Apple. It was on the andrio0d platform and the phone internally and externally was customizable to how the user saw fit. Now, you can argue the battery-encased in the shell, lack of SD card expandability and "all metal/glass" surroundings is great (you are probably an Apple fan), but to me it works against the S6....customization lacked big time. Let's not forget the S5 was dust/water resistant for a plastic back/removable battery and all ports on phone weren't covered! Also, keep these stupid nano sims for the iPhones, please...We have micro now #smallenough
2. Power/Battery:
I don't "multi-task overload" and usually only have a few apps running at the same time. Not really a big gamer outside of the occasional Angry Birds, yet I was STAGGERED learning how much my battery dropped from LIMITED use. 10 minutes looking at my phones messages and emails and 5% was gone in the blink of an eye. I can't get a full day out of it and I'm the furtherest thing from what would be considered a phone-a-holic. So again, such advantages of this phone in it's ability to cope with the most demanding apps, and graphics in high end mobile games, is biting it in the ass as its OVERLY using too much of the available battery.
3. FM radio
If you're like me, this makes you laugh the S4 and S5 had FM radio chips installed, but Samsung de-activated them. Why?! Who the f*ck knows. They present you with a ferrari and remove the engine...kinda makes it a moot point. I want to listen to live sports on radio...I can't do that unless I can tap into specific 3rd party apps and in some cases, certain times/streams aren't even available....use a LIVE FM RDS radio and it is. The S4-6+ missing this makes zero sense.
I could go on, but I won't. I will admit that in the hand, the phone feels fantastic. As did the S5. The processor of CPU/GPU are far superior, the camera is better and ultra-responsive, the UI might be new to you if you're not familiar, but easy to use. 4G speeds are SUPER fast, WIFI connectivity a breeze, but the more Samsung liken their phones to Apples and cut out common features and shorten battery lifespans, the quicker they will lose customers like me. If you add in the extra horsepower, compensate with either a bigger battery, or more efficient battery sucking less power.
For me, the G3 or G4's camera of 13 or 16MP will suffice...I'm a photographer with a great DSLR, a phone will never replace it and the RAW shooting option on the G4 (possibly G3) is a great option. The phone is a little BIG for my liking, but again, that's LG trying to copy the latest Iphone sizes for you...the GB RAM and storage are on par with market leaders at the moment and the option to use your own battery, manually reset the phone, add a SDHC card for photos/video (particular for RAW images) are just more reasons why I'll go for the option that gives you greater flexibility.
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Really interesting views and thoughts in this thread, gonna jump in....
Ive owned all the Samsung Devices (except the S6), IMO, samsung are pulling an Apple and the prices are starting to creep up, S6 or IPhone 6, Iphone 6+ or S6 Edge, yes its starting to happen.. Samsung are pulling their way back after the S5 flop and boy, are they letting everyone know about it.. oh and charging for it as well
Now that we have 5.0 L, I personnaly think the G3 is awesome. Its had it problems.. the OS being laggy, which Removing Smart Notice cures, the camera taking time to mature and lack of basic manual controls (EV, ISO, WB, Manual focus, Bracketing, Shutter speed etc) and LG still havent fixed the headphones hiss / distortion even after 2 massive updates (4.4 & 5.0), although there are workarounds, but I still love the G3.. why...
Beautiful Big Screen, Great Camera with one of the best OIS systems around (even better than Nokia at times), beautiful audio, great button placement, lovely sturdy robust build (even though its plastic), nice Themes and OS cutomisation, and now under Lollipop (20h), a great OS experience... lets just say I ditched my HTC One M9 for the G3.
Until they release a Tizen powered device, Ill never buy Samsung again.. because no matter how much they slim it down and dress it up.. Touchwiz is still Touchwiz and its like a kids cartoon. The camera looks impressive however, and now theyve added OIS, it seems impressive..
IMO if I was you, Ide get the G4, which is released on the 28th, which is much cheaper than an S6.