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I was wondering if its possible to flash the Verizon galaxy nexus to Sprint since they both use LTE. Would it be as easy as flashing the stock firmware for the sprint version or would more (complex) work be needed on the software side including the bootloader etc to get it running on sprint.
Also in theory if there were no carrier restrictions on this device would a T-Mobile micro sim work on the Device even if its at 2G speeds?
Reason being is I've figured out that Verizon is not the right carrier to support my habbit of switching phones every other month. I'm thinking about getting the T-Mobile sim only plan which is cheaper even though I get an employment discount for Verizon since I worked for Staples.
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vendetta718 said:
I was wondering if its possible to flash the Verizon galaxy nexus to Sprint since they both use LTE.
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No, it will not work. Even if Sprint accepted devices with ESN's they don't personally sell (they don't), there's no way to flash the VZW model to work on Sprint. Not to mention that Sprint doesn't exactly make their LTE SIMs regularly available, as they're embedded in their devices.
Would it be as easy as flashing the stock firmware for the sprint version or would more (complex) work be needed on the software side including the bootloader etc to get it running on sprint.
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No, you will negatively affect your device by intentionally trying to flash the wrong firmware. Possibly bricking it (though not likely, its not worth trying).
Also in theory if there were no carrier restrictions on this device would a T-Mobile micro sim work on the Device even if its at 2G speeds?
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The Verizon (or Sprint) Galaxy Nexus does not have a GSM radio. Just because it has a SIM doesn't mean its compatible with the other network.
Reason being is I've figured out that Verizon is not the right carrier to support my habbit of switching phones every other month. I'm thinking about getting the T-Mobile sim only plan which is cheaper even though I get an employment discount for Verizon since I worked for Staples.
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Well, sorry you made a bad choice for your habits, but this was all easily available information before you chose to sign up with them. Sell your phone and pick up the GSM model ($399 brand new, less used) and you can easily use it on T-Mobile.
well good thing you like to change phones every month just wait till this month is over and then get a phone that can be used for sprint/t-mobile...simple
Yea. Ive decided to terminate my verizon contract and sell my verizon Gnex
im considering the hspa+ Gnex or Tmobile s3 as my two choices for the t mobile monthly 4G plan.
Thanks anyway.
Okay so after months of complaining about service and one FCC complaint Sprint is letting me out of my contract. My service is beyond poor, and from all the research I have done it seems to affect everyone in my area, (Detroit) You would think Sprint would do a little better in a major city. I have until September 15th to find a new carrier.
Now, I love my S2, it is my first high end Android and I will only buy high end phones from now on... I am hooked.
Now being in Detroit my options are (4g is a must)
Verizon (LTE)
ATT (HSPA +)
T Mobile (HSPA+)
And to further complicate matters
MetroPCS (LTE)
Now,... not certain but I suspect that part of my reception issues with Sprint are caused by the less than stellar radio in the 4g touch. My first reaction was to buy a Verizon S3 but then I started having second thoughts because Motorola and HTC are known for better radios... damn.
I am currently running the hacked Verizon PRL allowing me to get Verizon 3G, it still pretty much sucks for me but still 10x faster than Sprint. I get from 100 to 500 Kbps. (But also get better voice and no dropped calls)
Now.. my whole point of wanting a fast internet connection is so I can browse the web and stream video at work.. and I work in a large industrial building made in 1940 with REAL bricks and stuff. None of that plastic modern crap,
From what I understand LTE signals have a hard time penetrating buildings... so it should have twice as much work to penetrate mine.
I have been playing with EVERYONE'S phone I know at work so I can test there internet speed... I think people at work think I lost my mind.
Unfortunately I work with cheapskates so the only 4G I was able to play with was MetroPCS which has a hit and miss 4G signal at work depending on the location in the building. I did get to play with one T Mobile HSPA+ phone and it got 2 MBPS down.. (I THINK that's enough to stream Netflix?)
Does HSPA+ penetrate buildings better than 4G LTE??
Now.. MetroPCS phones are generally pretty crappy and as of yet I don't think there is a way to flash over to them with working 4G, however...
there is a strong and somewhat substantiated rumor that the S3 is coming to MetroPCS before the end of the year. Okay.. this sounds almost perfect as I live and work in a very strong MetroPCS LTE area. Now I am back to my original concern that the S3 wont pull in the signal as well as other phones and is the only phone this carrier almost has that I would consider.
Now as far as the other carriers go I have the standard selection of phones... I just want a smoking hot phone with a large screen with a equally smoking hot radio. (is that so wrong?)
I know you guys cant give me a definitive answer about this because its all about my location and the location of the towers but I have researched phones and services until my eyes started bleeding and appreciated any educated guesses and advice. The only carrier I have any experience with is Sprint and MetroPCS and I have never had working 4G before. I want it so bad that I am willing to pay Verizon's prices if need be. On the other hand I have heard some people say that the Radio on the S3 is slightly improved... so if I could get an S3 on MetroPCS with unlimited 4G that would be awesome.
Buying a phone can be harder than buying a damn house.
I wouldn't get the gs3 on vzw its locked up tight so no rooting/modifications. I personally wouldn't go to vzw period, if i had to switch of go with TMo or AT&T in that order for TMo I'm not current on all the devices but I'd go with the gs3 or one s idk how HTC is with the bootloader tho, I know the one x and evolte are a pain in the ass to root. On att I'd go with the gs3 or gNote, although your other option would be to buy an unlocked device like the.gNex and use it on TMo or ATT prepaid which is what I would do personally. I'd get an unlocked gNex directly from Google and use it on TMos unlimited prepaid plan
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Gnex for me
I'm in metro Detroit too, and feel your pain. Data speeds have dropped to a slow drip over the last couple years (not that they were ever fast here). I'm leaning toward tmobile when I get bounced. Probably an S3.
It's not the radio's really you have to worry about when it comes to building penetrations. It's the frequency the network runs on. Verizon has great building penetration with 3g and LTE because Verizon owns most of the good low frequency. If you want good 4g and good building penetration Verizon is the way to go. But, you will pay good money for it. I don't know how much Metro has improved but, I have a friend who has Metro in the heart of a city that Metro is supposed to be good in. He always call me from his home phone because his service is weak.
As far as phones are concerned Verizon has the Gnex but I would try to get the unlocked Galaxy S3. I'm not sure if they are available to anyone but I read on Engadget a few weeks back that they were going to sell them for Verizon.
Just my 2cents. Good luck though.
i too probably will not be on sprint much longer due to signal, or rather lack there of... its my intention when I'm free to skip major carriers all together and use a month to month prepay provider that uses att's network... att and Verizon offer the best coverage in my area but I find their prices to be outlandish... by going with a prepay provider on att's network I'm getting the same good coverage for $45/mo, I can buy awesome phones for a very reasonable price directly from Google play, and as att is GSM I don't need to worry about my nexus experance being ruined like those on cdma networks do... lastly should I want something other than a nexus device I'll be able to buy used phones off of eBay/Craigslist without having to worry about asinine ESN's anymore, more than once sprint customer service has told me an ESN is clear, so I bought the phone, only later to find out that it was not when trying to activate it... not cool... actually I also just realized I could simply put aside the 60-70 I'll be saving a month on the bill and just buy the newest cutting edge device at full retail every 9 months with my savings... upgrade every two years?hah...
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I only get average of 300Kb/s, where do you find the Verizon PRL and tutorial?
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I would just stick with sprint for may be 2-3 more months. I am sure Detroit will get the network upgrades sooner than later. You can also check scheduled upgrades on network.sprint.com website. But then again I understand how much it would suck for you with bad connection 24x7.
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Rich3077, I am in the same situation as you and will be switching to Verizon as soon as the next round of phones are released (iPhone 5, next Nexus, etc.). The current lineup of phones only has the S3 that's new, pretty much everything else is a little old and lacking (GNex's camera, no SD card, and no GSM). With my experience with the S2 and Samsung's/Sprint's radio quality, and generally delayed OS upgrades I am really hoping that I don't have to buy another Samsung-branded phone again, and that the next Nexus is better than the current and previous Samsung versions.
Plus, it's starting to sound like we might actually start to see quad core phones with LTE. If you can, I would suggest waiting two to three months before you pull the trigger.
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I only get average of 300Kb/s, where do you find the Verizon PRL and tutorial?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
This is the thread I got the Verizon PRL's from, as well as instructions. You may have to try a few of them before you find one that works for you.
Thanks everyone for your reply's.. choices suck right now because as soon as I find a phone that has acceptable hardware I find out that it has a non replaceable battery or no SD card slot. What the hell are the manufactures thinking?? Its gonna cost me a bundle because I have 3 phones on my plan but even if I gotta pay full retail for phones I will if I can just get good service as well as a hot phone.
Rich3077 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
This is the thread I got the Verizon PRL's from, as well as instructions. You may have to try a few of them before you find one that works for you.
Thanks everyone for your reply's.. choices suck right now because as soon as I find a phone that has acceptable hardware I find out that it has a non replaceable battery or no SD card slot. What the hell are the manufactures thinking?? Its gonna cost me a bundle because I have 3 phones on my plan but even if I gotta pay full retail for phones I will if I can just get good service as well as a hot phone.
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Look for a good unlocked GSM phone and use something like TMos prepaid plan, their unlimited is throttled after 5gb but u still get around 2-3mbps down on 4g
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Rich3077 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
This is the thread I got the Verizon PRL's from, as well as instructions. You may have to try a few of them before you find one that works for you.
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I've been trying to a couple different.. I tried 00001, 00002 and 01337 and none of them gave me more than 300kb/s burst and 60kb/s normal. But I guess ill try them all.
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I've been trying to a couple different.. I tried 00001, 00002 and 01337 and none of them gave me more than 300kb/s burst and 60kb/s normal. But I guess ill try them all.
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Try 11115
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If I were not on contract, the $30 T-Mobile/Walmart plan with a $350 Galaxy Nexus from Google Play would be awfully tempting. Only catch is you only get 100 minutes. Given the fact that I average about 50 minutes a month anyway, I don't consider this a problem.
You would have to give up your LTE dreams. HSPA+ ain't so bad, is it?
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Try 11115
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Damn, 11119 is getting 1mb-2mb/s. Not sure if I want to try the others or not now lol
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Damn, 11119 is getting 1mb-2mb/s. Not sure if I want to try the others or not now lol
Auto: Domestic and Int'l is selected for Roaming.
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The 1111x series are the best I always had good results with 11115 on my evo but now I don't need to do the prl hack cuz my sprint 3g is 1+mbps on peak and 2+mbps off peak
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I agree with evils first suggestion. Get the unlocked galaxy nexus and use it on att or tmobile.
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I agree with evils first suggestion. Get the unlocked galaxy nexus and use it on att or tmobile.
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Yeah if I had to switch from sprint I'd eat the cost of an unlocked device up front to go prepaid cuz all the other carriers are so damn expensive on contract, hell you can use straight talk prepaid or any GSM prepaid plan with an unlocked device and getting the unlocked gnex from Google guarantees you speedy updates that work right
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FYI, it doesn't look like you are looking at Verizon S3, but in case if that thought crossed your mind, be aware that the S3 on Verizon has a locked bootloader. Given that you are on xda I am assuming that you probably care about this.
http://www.androidauthority.com/ver...3-locked-bootloader-developer-edition-100550/
I currently own a note 2 L900 sprint version flashed over to boost mobile. Right now I have it on ebay. I want to get one I can use with straight talk or other gsm providers. I hear it's easy to get the ATT version on straight talk. I also hear the Verizon version can be flashed over to straight talk but idk why if it was unlocked the apn couldn't be added to use straight talk. If anyone can clarify that please let me know. Also I see different versions for Verizon and different versions for ATT. Please help me in deciding the perfect note 2 for me! Thank you all very much for viewing and any input I may get on this. Also being able to go back to boost mobile might be a plus. Where I go Verizon is the best signal but I'm all done with paying such a high bill and only getting squat for data. Also I would like to add Sprint service sux!
ok, from what I gather the sprint/verizon phones can be used and run on verizon signal. Att and tmobile run on ATT. Anyone know if there's any phones that can be programmed to accept both signals. that would be fantastic. CDMA vs GSM would be the stopper but what about the 4s and it being CDMA and GSM?
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you will never find a phone in the usa that will run both cdma and gsm. unless you came from the future 0.o
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this is so wrong that its not even funny. ever heard of the touch pro 2? a world phone with pentaband radios and a gsm sim card slot that runs cdma on sprint.
the moto photon was also a world phone as well as many blackberrys.
↑ austin420 must be from the future... lol
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i was wondering, i know T-Mobile used to use sim cards (Unknowledged Now) and i had a couple of androids from T-Mobile back in 2008-2009 and modded them all to work with AT&T but i could only use edge network (only 3g out at that time). Has this changed any? Reason I am asking is I've been searching for so long in my area on local sites like craigslist for a good price on an AT&T i747 but just cant find one. Yet I have found some good deals on some T-mobile galaxy sIII phones. So I guess the questions I'm trying to ask are:
1. Does T-Mobile still use sim cards?
2. Can i use a T-Mobile GS3's with AT&T and have 4g LTE functions?
3. If it were you would you save $100 and go with the equivelant Gs3 T-Mobile, compared to paying $100 more for the AT&T version? (my situation)
I have more time than money, but I love not being limited, thats why im buying one in the first place. love my infuse 4g (4.2.2) but man... dat gsIII
and if i can just drop Clockwork on it and root it up and go on my marry way, heck yea
this seems primarily about the t999, so you should head over to that forum for better answers from people who use their t999 on att. tmobile is still a gsm carrier and uses sim cards. I would buy the t999 as I'm pretty sure you can use 3g/4g (not really 4g though as I consider lte to be 4g) with it on att. but again, head over to the tmobile forums for better answers.
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this seems primarily about the t999, so you should head over to that forum for better answers from people who use their t999 on att. tmobile is still a gsm carrier and uses sim cards. I would buy the t999 as I'm pretty sure you can use 3g/4g (not really 4g though as I consider lte to be 4g) with it on att. but again, head over to the tmobile forums for better answers.
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thank you ill report back here with some cool information to share for others who might be curious
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thank you ill report back here with some cool information to share for others who might be curious
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I agree, the tmo forum may be able to help more, however to answer some of it:
1. Yes, tmo still uses SIMs
2. Most users can only get HSPA+ due to the different frequencies. So, while data will be much better than edge, it won't be as fast as LTE.
3. I would not. Due to the potential problems of not getting LTE, the 100.00 is worth it to me.
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If you do not care about LTE then go for it. That really should be your only concern.
Definitely go talk with the people over in the tmo forums. Theyd probably be of better assistance.
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Is there any way to use an unlocked tmobile s4 on verizon???? Can you flash a certain modem to make it work?
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No. GSM phones are incompatible with CDMA networks.
verizon
I have a stock sgh-m919 and I gave my imei to Verizon over the phone, they stated they could not use my phone on a prepaid plan, but I did not inquire about a contract plan. Visit a store and ask questions.
I realize Verizon is CDMA, but I have seen those radio ROMs somewhere to change the frequency of the radio. I think it would require more than that, perhaps even an imei change, I don't really know, I'm just going out on a limb here.
From what I understand Verizon does use the 700Mhz band like AT&T but they use a different portion of the band, the upper is what I read. Google 700Mhz LTE, I think that it will come up.
good luck, let me know how that turns out.
Also, my mother has a Iphone 4S on Verizon and although I don't really like apple products, I do know that it has a sim card slot, so that taken into consideration, perhaps there is hope.
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I have a stock sgh-m919 and I gave my imei to Verizon over the phone, they stated they could not use my phone on a prepaid plan, but I did not inquire about a contract plan. Visit a store and ask questions.
I realize Verizon is CDMA, but I have seen those radio ROMs somewhere to change the frequency of the radio. I think it would require more than that, perhaps even an imei change, I don't really know, I'm just going out on a limb here.
From what I understand Verizon does use the 700Mhz band like AT&T but they use a different portion of the band, the upper is what I read. Google 700Mhz LTE, I think that it will come up.
good luck, let me know how that turns out.
Also, my mother has a Iphone 4S on Verizon and although I don't really like apple products, I do know that it has a sim card slot, so that taken into consideration, perhaps there is hope.
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A Verizon model will work on T-Mobile, just not the other way around :/
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Is there any way to use an unlocked tmobile s4 on verizon???? Can you flash a certain modem to make it work?
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Well I've been traveling for a while now with T-Mobile service with my T-Mobile s4 *cough* *unlocked* *cough*, and it does pick up Verizon service and I am able to call and text due to the agreements the carriers have. So I don't see why not. And as to activating any phone on Verizon prepaid, you can't .only have the options they have.
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