Was browsing the Android Forum on XDA and happened to run into a thread about a program called Ram Manager. Its getting pretty much rave reviews in the thread and market so I decided to give it a try. I don't want to get ahead of myself but my Nitro is seeming to run much better with it. Just thought I would pass it along to my fellow Nitro users to see if you guys think it makes your phone better. There is a paid and free version on the market at
https://market.android.com/details?...WFydHByb2plY3RzLlJBTU9wdGltaXphdGlvbkZyZWUiXQ..
The thread on XDA can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305060
UPDATE: Ram Manager requires ROOT
I have no connection with this developer and just want to pass a possible lag fix down to the community.
What the heck, $2 wasn't going to kill me, so I bought it.
Only been running it about 10 minutes but I've been opening and switching back and forth to my most commonly used apps and so far it's been pretty much instantaneous. So far so good!
Thats what I thought also. Posted here because I wanted to make sure I wasn't nuts. I bought it too. Like to support the devs here.
guys is this something you have to start up manually after each reboot? i restarted after an install and didn't notice it running in my app manager... thanks!
ive got it running, seems ok. i think at this stage we're dealing in millisecond differences, lolz.
i think i saw a bigger difference in things when i installed juice defender ultimate and set it up properly.
brinboston said:
guys is this something you have to start up manually after each reboot? i restarted after an install and didn't notice it running in my app manager... thanks!
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You do not have to start it up after each reboot. It adjusts memory scheduling parameters and they are saved after each change made.
brinboston said:
guys is this something you have to start up manually after each reboot? i restarted after an install and didn't notice it running in my app manager... thanks!
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i installed it, ran it, restarted phone and its not running. so yeah i guess we have to start it everytime when the phone boots up, unless someone with more expertise can answer this.
hashhash said:
i installed it, ran it, restarted phone and its not running. so yeah i guess we have to start it everytime when the phone boots up, unless someone with more expertise can answer this.
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Ram Manager changes memory settings on your phone (memory scheduler settings that prioritize certain appliciations and set the timeouts for applications before they are cleared out of ram) that persist through reboot. When you change your ringtone, do you expect to see a ringtone service running after every reboot?
You guys are so spoiled! The phone is lightning fast (as soon as you get rid of the laggy stock launcher). How much more fast do you need to be satisfied?
/me gonna try it now too...
thought on this so far? how are y'all figuring out if it makes an impact or not? i've been running it for several days now and disabled it this morning to see if i notice a diff
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i installed it, ran it, restarted phone and its not running. so yeah i guess we have to start it everytime when the phone boots up, unless someone with more expertise can answer this.
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Ram Manager is executed After Startup, but all it needs to do is change memory settings, then it ends.
i've been trying to confirm that it *kills* apps that are running that are not being used. have several running all morning that haven't been used.
I've updated from a rooted stock GB ROM to the ICS update. I'm surprised this is the update Sprint/Samsung released for the phone. The GB ROM was stable and clean, this one seems to have some issues... primarily:
1) Battery life is 6-7 hours LESS - at least.
One thing I've noticed here is that "Android OS" is using about half of the battery. Previously (and confirmed with my buddy with his GSIII), this only used about 4% or 5% . I suspect this is a culprit.
I've attached some screenshots showing this.
Almost no use of the phone all day, I was at work - some light texting later in the day. So little that SMS or GoSMS don't even appear on the chart.
2) Swype keyboard issues.
Yes, you can clear your app cache for swype and get it to work. However, you apparently can't get copy/paste/select word/select all to work.
When you click on text and click the little handle that appears, only a small box appears above, which is where the menu should be for copy/paste/select word/select all should be. At least I think that's the options - from memory, since I don't have them any more. :crying:
I've attached a screenshot showing this.
[EDIT: This is a usage issue - I consider this more difficult than before, and quirky in that it doesn't always work, but generally if you press and hold text, it'll open an edit panel where the notification bar is. Sometimes double-clicking works.]
3) Signal issues.
Again using the Battery screen - I'm seeing some very odd patterns both with carrier data signal and wifi. Previously, carrier signal was an uninterrupted line, of varying shades of green that corresopnded to signal strength. Now, when I look at this line, there's some very good sized breaks in it. That's a sharp contrast to how it used to be.
I know that searching for signal can use battery - maybe an issue with the radio? modem?
Same for wifi - I used to have a setting for "wifi off when screen off". Now it's gone, or changed - I see a "wifi on while sleep" that is checked. Despite this setting remaining constant, I see periods where that seems to be happening (later), but also a long period where wifi is active despite the screen off.
I've attached a screenshot showing this. See the "mobile network signal" line in the plot.
4) General, observed quirkiness.
Screen not being as responsive. When I press the power button on my phone now, it takes 2 or 4 seconds for the screen to activate. Touching the screen sometimes results in a very laggy response... enough time to poke the screen a second time. Skippy/unsmooth screen transitions in some cases. I've had GoSMS vanish on me a couple times and I had to relaunch it. Other apps become unresponsive and I've had to hit the home button repeatedly - sometimes 10-15 seconds before the phone comes back to the home screen and out of that app.
The screen captures were taken throughout the day - the times appear on them.
I've also attached two BetterBatteryStats dump files - one of them I had all options checked, the other just the defaults. They were taken about the same time, and about the same time I took the 8 hour screen cap.
If it matters, I'm using Go Launcher EX, it's still my stock launcher. I'm noticing not many people on ICS using it - are there known problems?
This is frustrating to me - I use this phone for work, I came off an AOKP ROM to get back on a stock ROM, for two things:
1) stock stability and battery life.
2) the Exchange account options for sync scheduling (on peak/off peak schedules for sync) that only seem to be in the stock ROM.
[EDIT: I performed a full factory wipe several days ago, and reinstalled all apps via market, and still are experiencing these exact symptoms. No improvement. May restore my nandroid from before the wipe just to gain back a few things I inadvertently lost as this didn't resolve anything.]
Accordingly, I'd like to see this ROM working. Any thoughts on these?
Anyone else observing these symptoms, relative to the stock GB rom?
5) GPS changes/bugs
I've also noticed some GPS changes / bugs that I'm not liking.
The GB GPS sucked, now this one seems worse:
Driving tonight, I had to reboot my phone to stop my eternal wait for "searching for GPS" in the car. No different than I've occasionally had to do with the GB rom.
However, then when I made a couple wrong turns or deviations from the route, it got stuck on "recalculating". Eternally.
I know I was in an area with good data, because I exited the Navigation app, relaunched it and picked the last destination and it calculated the new route instantly. It didn't successfully recalculate once... three times I had to restart the navigation app.
Also - the old navigation app used to tell you "...in a quarter mile, exit on..." and "...in 100 feet, turn onto..."
This new navigation app does no such thing. It just says "turn right on _____ street". Which is useless if there's no street sign (hence several of my "recalculating" incidents).
Bump - anyone experiencing these bugs? I haven't seen them reported - any of them.
Looking for something to try to resolve one, or all of them.
Any suggestions are appreciated, thanks.
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Bump - anyone experiencing these bugs? I haven't seen them reported - any of them.
Looking for something to try to resolve one, or all of them.
Any suggestions are appreciated, thanks.
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I have had HORRIBLE battery life since the upgrade. It is worse than half of what I was getting prior to ICS
My GPS is working like a bauce though, finds my locations within seconds.
My boss got the upgrade last night and has Go Launcher and their suite of products on his device and he can't send texts now
I feel accomplished if I've stumped all of XDA... :silly:
I did discover a workaround for the copy/paste/select issue - long pressing in ICS opens a menu at the top of the screen for that.
However, still stumped on
1) 6-7 hour battery life reduction
3) signal issues
4) Quirkiness/freezing/sputtering responses
5) GPS issues - both signal and new app
Anyone else but me experiencing any others besides #1?
geoleomon - I would suggest grabbing XDA's version of Better Battery Stats, and monitoring your battery life that way rather then using the Android version.
But yes, I have experienced some of the battery issues, just no where near to that extent (maybe 4 -6 hours less).
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geoleomon - I would suggest grabbing XDA's version of Better Battery Stats, and monitoring your battery life that way rather then using the Android version.
But yes, I have experienced some of the battery issues, just no where near to that extent (maybe 4 -6 hours less).
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Where do I get that one? (I paid for the full version of the Android market version)
What's different about it?
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Where do I get that one? (I paid for the full version of the Android market version)
What's different about it?
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Nothing, except this one is free.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Hmm.. Weird I've had the ota installed for a day now and my Android os is averaging 10-15% at the most
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Nothing, except this one is free.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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I've previously posted my results from the paid full version of the app... see the original post, two text files attached.
(one complete, one over-complete)
Anything out of the ordinary in there? What should I look for?
thanks-
Another piece of the puzzle:
I was using the camera, and it crashed - an error I didn't capture but something like "media server crashed - camera must restart". Happened twice before the camera actually started OK. Perhaps significantly, I had the phone docked when I fired up the camera - desk dock.
Also, noticing that listening to music in my desk dock at work, several times now the song has just stopped playing a few seconds in, and the media player closes. I restart the music player, and everything is OK. Sometimes that happens 2 or 3 times before the player works again, and then sometimes it'll happen an hour or so later even after it does start working again.
Could this be related?
try this then report back I have none of these issues you speak of but I am generally in a good signal area. Your signal looks awful, defiantly will cause battery drain.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
riggs170 said:
try this then report back I have none of these issues you speak of but I am generally in a good signal area. Your signal looks awful, defiantly will cause battery drain.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
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I used the "nodata" version of that kernel to install CWM after rooting.
This will wipe my phone, which I'm looking to avoid doing if possible, if that's not the "nodata" version I already have.
Can you clarify on what you are advising?
Interesting though - a coworker suggested possibly if I wipe my phone it might clean things up.
I have just cleared my Dalvik cache, however I believe I did this before. I'm doing this now noting that as per my prior post, I'm seeing a few things force close, or else stop suddenly (like music player) without closing.
Also using CWM to "fix permissions" (not quite sure what this means).
We'll see what my results are after this.
I'd like to get this stock ROM working well if at all possible - if for no other reason than the Exchange peak/off peak email sync settings that don't seem to exist in other ICS ROMs.
I wish a mod would sticky a battery life complaint thread and close all others. Every other thread is an ics battery life complaint.
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geolemon said:
I used the "nodata" version of that kernel to install CWM after rooting.
This will wipe my phone, which I'm looking to avoid doing if possible, if that's not the "nodata" version I already have.
Can you clarify on what you are advising?
Interesting though - a coworker suggested possibly if I wipe my phone it might clean things up.
I have just cleared my Dalvik cache, however I believe I did this before. I'm doing this now noting that as per my prior post, I'm seeing a few things force close, or else stop suddenly (like music player) without closing.
Also using CWM to "fix permissions" (not quite sure what this means).
We'll see what my results are after this.
I'd like to get this stock ROM working well if at all possible - if for no other reason than the Exchange peak/off peak email sync settings that don't seem to exist in other ICS ROMs.
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using nodata is you're problem, all of the issues you've described could be caused by using nodata, this is why it is advised in almost every roms dev thread to do a full wipe, not no data... you may be able to get away with it without any serious bugs upgrading the same rom one revision but not going from gb to ics. you need to do a full wipe and fresh flash, legacy gb app framework is causing these issues, not ics
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I wish a mod would sticky a battery life complaint thread and close all others. Every other thread is an ics battery life complaint.
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SERIOUSLY! i dont get why people come to xda to whine about the OTA, XDA is the place you come not to run stock... And half the threads that arnt about battery life/"bugs" where the poster provides only basic anecdotal "evidence" and no technical data whatsoever on FF18 are gripes about sprint and sprint related issues... have people never heard of the sprintusers forum, THATS where those complaints belong, not here
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using nodata is you're problem, all of the issues you've described could be caused by using nodata, this is why it is advised in almost every roms dev thread to do a full wipe, not no data... you may be able to get away with it without any serious bugs upgrading the same rom one revision but not going from gb to ics. you need to do a full wipe and fresh flash, legacy gb app framework is causing these issues, not ics
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Thanks for this part - however...
The very advantage of going the OTA (or at least stock - I didn't OTA it) stock route is to not clear the phone.
Samsung/Sprint spent how many months developing this, to provide an update that's supposed to be clean for existing, non-technical, non-rooted, mom & pop users. I wanted to go this route simply as the "cleanest" option. And I've got lots set up on my phone and very little time around now - I'd prefer not to lose it if I can avoid it. As much as you try to back up, and remember, and all that, every time you wipe you forget something...
It's a little bit like being a Jeep owner, and saying "you know, everyone could get away with driving a Jeep".
Sure... they could... but they wouldn't all enjoy it, and it really wouldn't fit everyone's use case.
Usually, advise like this really just reflects a lack of vision: "I can't imagine anyone who uses their phone different than ME".
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SERIOUSLY! i dont get why people come to xda to whine about the OTA, XDA is the place you come not to run stock... And half the threads that arnt about battery life/"bugs" where the poster provides only basic anecdotal "evidence" and no technical data whatsoever on FF18 are gripes about sprint and sprint related issues... have people never heard of the sprintusers forum, THATS where those complaints belong, not here
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Does this look like whining, or seeking a solution? Hey, look - the original post!
geolemon said:
...This is frustrating to me - I use this phone for work, I came off an AOKP ROM to get back on a stock ROM, for two things:
1) stock stability and battery life.
2) the Exchange account options for sync scheduling (on peak/off peak schedules for sync) that only seem to be in the stock ROM.
Accordingly, I'd like to see this ROM working. Any thoughts on these?
Anyone else observing these symptoms, relative to the stock GB rom?
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Again - seems more and more like you are a child, not only lacking maturity, but injecting your own prejudices rather than reading.
I'm seeking solutions.
And XDA is the place for options. Solutions are a subset of options.
Grow up.
I wasn't referencing you as whining at all, however this thread belongs in the Official OTA thread, not on its own, that's what the commenter prior to me and I were both refrencing- the constant new threads about the same 3 or 4 issues with the OTA when there is already a thread for it... that said you said you're seeking solutions, I offered you one that will work, I'm sorry that it displeases you, but doing a full wipe and a clean install will solve pretty much every issue you have, so backup your apps, and text messages if you want those as well, it takes less than 5 minutes in titanium backup and SMS backup, and do a clean flash or Odin (if flashing make sure you are on a safe kernel). That will fix your problems, its silly to keep asking for solutions when the best and most likely to be successful one has already been proffered.... or should you still for some reason not want to do this just unroot and take it to a sprint store, they'll do a factory reset, that'll fix all of the issues you're having. Save the time and effort and just do it yourself, no one is going to post any magic advice that'll make it all OK with nothing unchanged
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I wasn't referencing you as whining at all, however this thread belongs in the Official OTA thread, not on its own, that's what the commenter prior to me and I were both refrencing- the constant new threads about the same 3 or 4 issues with the OTA when there is already a thread for it... that said you said you're seeking solutions, I offered you one that will work, I'm sorry that it displeases you, but doing a full wipe and a clean install will solve pretty much every issue you have, so backup your apps, and text messages if you want those as well, it takes less than 5 minutes in titanium backup and SMS backup, and do a clean flash or Odin (if flashing make sure you are on a safe kernel). That will fix your problems, its silly to keep asking for solutions when the best and most likely to be successful one has already been proffered.... or should you still for some reason not want to do this just unroot and take it to a sprint store, they'll do a factory reset, that'll fix all of the issues you're having. Save the time and effort and just do it yourself, no one is going to post any magic advice that'll make it all OK with nothing unchanged
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I'll try it... just want to make that the last resort.
Wouldn't you consider it to be equivalent to just wiping/factory reset via CWM?
geolemon said:
I'll try it... just want to make that the last resort.
Wouldn't you consider it to be equivalent to just wiping/factory reset via CWM?
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yup wiping in cwm will do it, again be sure you're on a safe recovery eg. agats or chris41's... things like the force closes of music player and the malfunctioning of swipe, camera, etc, are due to coming from gb without a full wipe... i do realize its a PITA if you wanted to keep it simple, but it is what it is you know... insofar as battery I've never had a problem running ff18 based roms such as blu kuban or goodness, I've never run bone stock myself but if you continue to have issues there are tweaks, such as kobridges and phakers scrips that'll help out a lot, in addition to disabling unnecessary syncs, etc... however after giving it a few days to settle I've not had any problem getting a full day of moderate use out of ff18 based roms...
just to add a little more, fixing permissions will help a little with force closes... if you are unfamiliar with the UNIX permission system you can find some good info here ( http://www.perlfect.com/articles/chmod.shtml ), however it would still probably be best to to a wipe as it most likely won't fix all the bugaboo's you have from keeping your gb /data partition... despite what the horrid touchwiz interface would have you believe ICS is a huge step forward from GB, and that old app data can and will cause problems... lastly sorry if i came off a bit gruff, as I'm sure you've picked up I'm somewhat tired of seeing threads about the OTA, however to your credit you did post tons of concise, detailed info and were open to suggestions, I've seen similar thread where the OP just posts something akin to "ICS data sux, wtfff????" and when recognized devs tell them what they need to do they start to argue, which makes no sense to me... I was most likely taking my frustration at those threads and their apposition to the purpose of XDA out on you, for that I apologize, good luck with it and should you need further help let me know, I'd be glad to assist or at least point you in the direction of information that may help
This thread seems to have gone off the rails a bit... All the answers you seek are in development op. It requires reading though... There are roms and explanations for every problem you listed. If you say no they're not... Then you have not taken the time to read... Simple as that... I am a developer here and no one taught me anything. I READ AND LEARNED IT. i have a family and a life and the whole bag... So there are no exscuses. I challenge you to take the time to read and learn and give back. Maybe YOU can find the answera to your questions and post the answers here so you can help someone else who will post this and that doesnt work (but does, they just didnt read and learn how to fix it). Because as soon as you post it someone else will have the same complaints and questions and will be to lazy to search...
I was fiddling with my phone settings and testing a few features. WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT ENABLE THE TALKBACK FEATURE.
After enabling this feature, my phone began to freeze on every screen while the voice assistant keeps speaking as I try to press anything on the screen. The entire phone just bugs out. Can't swipe or scroll. Can't select anything. Can't get to the settings to disable the talkback feature because I can't scroll. Can't do anything basically.
So, here I am with a brand new unusable HTC One M8. This is my 2nd NEW HTC One M8 that has defective software. My first one couldn't read any SIM cards after 3 new SIM cards were attempted by a T-Mobile rep.
Try factory reset.
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Try factory reset.
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Can't. As I mentioned, I cannot swipe or scroll. Factory reset requires scrolling to 'Factory Reset'. Not only that, I cannot select anything unless I get "lucky". The phone doesn't do anything I want it to do. I have a vid of the issue but I can't link it to this thread because I'm a new user.
If you have an HTC One M8, you can test this feature yourself and let me know if you run into the same problem but I warn you... if you run into the same problem, you will need to get it replaced and your phone won't work. Would be nice to know if this is a common problem but I'm not sure people are willing to take that chance and basically break their phone on purpose. It's like telling someone to press the big red self-destruct button to see what happens lol.
Factory reset from the bootloader..... and talk back works fine. And if it does fail on my phone i re install my rom, i love my unlocked, s-offed M8. Makes it all so easy
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Factory reset from the bootloader..... and talk back works fine. And if it does fail on my phone i re install my rom, i love my unlocked, s-offed M8. Makes it all so easy
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How do I do that exactly?
Wish I could show you the vid, then you'll understand exactly how impossible it is to do anything.
neokrizzo said:
How do I do that exactly?
Wish I could show you the vid, then you'll understand exactly how impossible it is to do anything.
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Nvm, I figured out how to factory reset when powering it on. I guess my Talkback feature is just unusable?
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no panic ,when in talkback u need to use two fingers to scroll to accesability then turn talkback off simples
paulaiks44 said:
no panic ,when in talkback u need to use two fingers to scroll to accesability then turn talkback off simples
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Sorry, I think you're misunderstanding my previous explanation. I cannot swipe nor can I scroll. I cannot select anything. The entire phone becomes bugged/glitched. You'd be amazed if you could watch the short video I made of it. It's more extreme than you think. Everything just goes haywire.
I'd like to say I'm a very tech savvy person since I do a lot of computer-related design, I can build computers, troubleshoot viruses, clean my registry, and "techie" things. I'm not just some average consumer who bought a phone and doesn't know how to use a smart phone. I'm very proficient with smartphones. With that said, there is seriously something wrong with the Talkback function. Enabling it almost feels like a virus is attacking the OS. I honestly don't need to use that particular function but what if one day I do or someone else might need to use it.
I actually got a new replacement yesterday and I'm not even going to touch that function whatsoever until I find some answers and a possible solution. I have everything synced to my new phone with my contacts, multiple email accounts, apps, social media, etc. and I'm not going to risk running into that problem and being forced to factory reset my phone. If you know the pain of having to reinstall your OS on a PC which I've done dozens of time throughout the years then you'll understand how painful that process really is because you have to reinstall all your software again.
I found another bug on my new phone as well and made a thread about it already. +/- for Selfie Mode doesn't work. Just greaaaaaat.
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u need to use 2 fingers when scrolling
LOOOOL...ROFLLLLL...
I remember the first time I ever turned talkback on. "Panic" should be included as an official feature. Obviously, like our friend here, I didn't bother to read all the operational instructions that came with it, and thought for sure I had killed my phone.
Hint: you really have to use "2 fingers" to go anywhere!
Cheers
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LOOOOL...ROFLLLLL...
I remember the first time I ever turned talkback on. "Panic" should be included as an official feature. Obviously, like our friend here, I didn't bother to read all the operational instructions that came with it, and thought for sure I had killed my phone.
Hint: you really have to use "2 fingers" to go anywhere!
Cheers
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LOOOL.. you've killed me with this post. I experienced this same problem today and the guys freaking out almost made me lose it too. Thanks for the help. Two fingers
mulaz92 said:
LOOOL.. you've killed me with this post. I experienced this same problem today and the guys freaking out almost made me lose it too. Thanks for the help. Two fingers
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Its a pleasure... glad you made it out without any broken fingers