anyone have it care to comment?
How much I want it?
I ended up going with the MEX-BT2500. It seems like it has all the goodies I'm looking for.. Only $129!!! for Bluetooth hands-free/a2dp streaming... mp3 cd's and all those other formats... and satellite interface hookup... and the add-on XM tuner was like 29.99 after rebates and discounts... wooh!
Hope it doesn't suck ... lol
I've had a MEX-BT5000 for more than a year now, and have used it with both Wizard & Kaiser devices. Its handsfree performance is very good; better than any headset I've used. BT stereo performance is pretty good. I've had some problems with multiple programs using BT audio (e.g. nav & streaming audio), but I think that's more of a WM/device problem.
What a frustrating zoo this has been... I ended up having to cancel the order for the 2500 and go with the MEX-BT5000 instead... the 2500 didn't have any preamp outputs! That simply won't do...
Liked the BT5100 but apparently there are no firmware updates for the XM Radio adapter yet... I still need my XM as primary source of music because streaming just really isn't all that reliable all the time due to network coverage while driving...
Hope the BT5000 is good.. got it for $199 plus shipping so not too bad.
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I had one, it was nice. Now I have a JVC KD-AVX33 that's leaps and bounds better!
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leaps and bounds better in what area?
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ahh nevermind that thing is like twice the cost lol... was looking for something in a lower price range that had all the functionality I was looking for.
Hello,
I would like to know if the moga pro is worth the money or not.
I seriously need a controller for my htc ine to play on and is there any other alternative??
also if i buy from powera.com it's costing me 120$ with shipping and that's a lot.
I live in India so any idea where i can buy that controller or any other at affording money??
Moga Pro is awesome. Though if you have a PS3, just use your controller and use the sixaxis app.
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Moga Pro is awesome. Though if you have a PS3, just use your controller and use the sixaxis app.
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I dont have PS3 controller. and where can i buy it?
www.powera.com
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www.powera.com
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i have tried that but with shipping it's 120$ and the price of the controller is 50$, so why would i buy it!
Have you tried Amazon?
I'd suggest waiting. They just announced the second version a while ago. I have the MOGA travel controller and it's pretty nice imo. Very cool for playing emulator games.
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Moga Pro is awesome. Though if you have a PS3, just use your controller and use the sixaxis app.
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I apologize for this being slightly off topic, but how did you get the Sixaxis app to work? Custom kernel? Sixaxis is not compatible with the stock kernel. Thanks!
ainen said:
Have you tried Amazon?
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yeah it's also high in price for my country
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I apologize for this being slightly off topic, but how did you get the Sixaxis app to work? Custom kernel? Sixaxis is not compatible with the stock kernel. Thanks!
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Yep. Back in the day we could never get any bluetooth accessory to work but a headset or speaker. No controllers keyboards mice or anything. HTC stock kernel does not support bluetooth input devices. Most any custom kernel will. Moga has done something with their controller and app so that it works on the stock HTC kernel.
Myself I use the Moga Pocket model and it is working fine with the HTC One.
For this model you must be rooted and use the universal driver to be able to use it with emulators and so. (Not sure how this is with the pro model)
I would say it is worth the money, the only thing missing on the Moga Pocket model is the Dpad but the Pro model you are looking after does have this.
If you like gaming a controller is a must have, the reason I love this device is because you can insert your phone and hold it as one device.
A few down sides are:
- When you are gaming somewhere and need to go to the toilet for example, you will not be able to put it in your pocket quickly without disassembling it first.
- It uses batteries, so take some extra with you. (Sure sucks to have juice left in your phone but your controller is all out.
When using this controller (or any controller) with the app called "GameKeyboard"you can map pretty much every game to work with it.
(Even if they do not support hardware key mapping.)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.locnet.gamekeyboard&hl=nl
Kind regards, Stefan.
The issue with the cost is likely due to importing fees in your country.
So my mate has offered me a blocked s3 for 50quid and the idea of o mhl cable and using my move pro for gaming on my TV suddenly seems more appealing. What do you guys think as I can get the ouya for 90quid with a 10 pound voucher.
I would primarily be using this for xbmc and occasional gaming as the move pro is a very competent joyed compared to the ouya poor one.
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So my mate has offered me a blocked s3 for 50quid and the idea of o mhl cable and using my move pro for gaming on my TV suddenly seems more appealing. What do you guys think as I can get the ouya for 90quid with a 10 pound voucher.
I would primarily be using this for xbmc and occasional gaming as the move pro is a very competent joyed compared to the ouya poor one.
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Moga pro not move
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Moga pro not move
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Not quite sure what this means, but you either love the ouya or hate it. I think it's better optimized than smartphones for emulators in its store and I have used the moga pro for them and it works fine on B mode.
It's lame that in 2016 we still have to ask this. Google was very late to the party to implement hands-free profile 1.6 with wideband audio. They just started with the N6 in late 2014, the N5 did not have it. But, the N9 does not have it, the Shield Tablet does not have it, the N10 of course doesn't either, so no Google tablets that I know of (haven't tried a 2013 N7 though).
If you're wondering, so-called HD Voice in bluetooth (not to be confused with the carriers' "HD Voice" which is a similar thing but within their network) is also called wideband audio because normally BT cuts out at about 3kHz for voice/talk. HFP 1.6 wideband doubles the bandwidth to about 7kHz so voice is much, much clearer.
Usually this is advertised for phones cause the carriers are implementing their own HD Voice, and you'd need a BT HFP 1.6 wideband headset to take advantage of that, but what everyone seems to miss is that pretty much all VoIP apps use a wideband codec, and those work great with these HD headsets.
So, if anyone is familiar with this, could you test it on the Pixel C? You'd need a HD Voice headset, of course. I know pretty much all Sony ones are (but for some like the SBH52 and BRH10 you have to explicitly enable it with an app), and most modern ones from the big brands. If you don't know how, you can make a hangouts-to-hangouts voice call from your phone, and listen to the clarity. (Don't use Skype though, I think its Android app while it does use wideband normally, falls back to narrowband for bluetooth.) There shouldn't be much difference between using headphones and using the headset connected to the tablet. If it's not HD Voice, you'll notice a big difference with the higher frequencies, especially the "S".
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It's lame that in 2016 we still have to ask this. Google was very late to the party to implement hands-free profile 1.6 with wideband audio. They just started with the N6 in late 2014, the N5 did not have it. But, the N9 does not have it, the Shield Tablet does not have it, the N10 of course doesn't either, so no Google tablets that I know of (haven't tried a 2013 N7 though).
If you're wondering, so-called HD Voice in bluetooth (not to be confused with the carriers' "HD Voice" which is a similar thing but within their network) is also called wideband audio because normally BT cuts out at about 3kHz for voice/talk. HFP 1.6 wideband doubles the bandwidth to about 7kHz so voice is much, much clearer.
Usually this is advertised for phones cause the carriers are implementing their own HD Voice, and you'd need a BT HFP 1.6 wideband headset to take advantage of that, but what everyone seems to miss is that pretty much all VoIP apps use a wideband codec, and those work great with these HD headsets.
So, if anyone is familiar with this, could you test it on the Pixel C? You'd need a HD Voice headset, of course. I know pretty much all Sony ones are (but for some like the SBH52 and BRH10 you have to explicitly enable it with an app), and most modern ones from the big brands. If you don't know how, you can make a hangouts-to-hangouts voice call from your phone, and listen to the clarity. (Don't use Skype though, I think its Android app while it does use wideband normally, falls back to narrowband for bluetooth.) There shouldn't be much difference between using headphones and using the headset connected to the tablet. If it's not HD Voice, you'll notice a big difference with the higher frequencies, especially the "S".
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Hey Andy o
I have a Plantronics Voyager Edge with Wideband - I use it daily with my N6P on voice calls (GSM).
I'd be happy to pair it with the Pixel C and happy to try via hangouts, but no one I know uses hangouts anymore. PM me if you want to try and test this.
Seems that the pixel c has no hands free Bluetooth profile at all (not narrow band and not wide band). When you connect a Bluetooth headset the tablet pairs but doesn't connect to any hands free profile. It has A2DP for music streaming but if you were thinking of making voip call using a Bluetooth headset, forget it. Pretty lame for a $500+ device.
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Seems that the pixel c has no hands free Bluetooth profile at all (not narrow band and not wide band). When you connect a Bluetooth headset the tablet pairs but doesn't connect to any hands free profile. It has A2DP for music streaming but if you were thinking of making voip call using a Bluetooth headset, forget it. Pretty lame for a $500+ device.
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Holy crap, it appears you're right. That was unexpected. First, no GPS, then this? Damn that is terrible.
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Hey Andy o
I have a Plantronics Voyager Edge with Wideband - I use it daily with my N6P on voice calls (GSM).
I'd be happy to pair it with the Pixel C and happy to try via hangouts, but no one I know uses hangouts anymore. PM me if you want to try and test this.
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Thanks for the offer, but it appears I already have an answer, worse than I thought!
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Holy crap, it appears you're right. That was unexpected. First, no GPS, then this? Damn that is terrible.
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Hence why I returned it. This and the lack of auto correct when typing with the keyboard killed it for me.
I wonder if this is because of the rumors that it was designed for Chrome OS which, unbelievably, just got the HFP profile last July. If so, it might be available in future updates, and would support the notion that the software on this thing was rushed out.
Regardless of the reason, it is simply unacceptable that such a premium device being sold and a high price tag will lack basic features like this.
I'm sure most users won't use a headset with this device but for the price support for it should be included. The original nexus 7 didn't have it either. The second nexus 7 had it (lowband). The nexus 9 had this profile.
This is why apple is doing so well. Everything just works.
I don't even think "premium" comes into play. That any modern tablet or phone doesn't have it is nuts. I can't imagine a modern BT chip not having support for it, so it's probably a software/drivers issue, but who knows if Google will fix it.
BTW, are you sure the 2012 N7 didn't have it? I remember it not having a TRRS (headphone+mic) connector, which also crippled it for Square payments, and which was just as dumb a product design choice. But IIRC one of the workarounds was to use a BT headset.
Also, I don't think the N9 has HFP 1.6 wideband. The audio itself is just terrible in comparison with HD-enabled devices like the N6P, N6 and my iOS devices. Even using a frequency generator just to be super sure has it cut off at just above 3500 Hz which is expected for the narrowband profile. With wideband I can still hear on the other device up to 7800 Hz or so.
Yes I don't think the N9 had wideband either. As far as I can recall the N7 2012 didn't have HFP profile either as I remember it driving me nuts that I couldn't use a Bluetooth headset on it to make voip calls.
I went ahead and opened a thread on the Google product support for the pixel c and it has been escalated. Let's see what comes back and if they intend to enable HFP on this device or not.
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I went ahead and opened a thread on the Google product support for the pixel c and it has been escalated. Let's see what comes back and if they intend to enable HFP on this device or not.
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Would you mind linking the thread? I can't seem to find it at the Google product support forums.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!categories/nexus/pixel-c
it's what i think he mentioned.
Thanks, that's it https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/f8c_iLUs_rI Will be following it.
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Regardless of the reason, it is simply unacceptable that such a premium device being sold and a high price tag will lack basic features like this.
I'm sure most users won't use a headset with this device but for the price support for it should be included. The original nexus 7 didn't have it either. The second nexus 7 had it (lowband). The nexus 9 had this profile.
This is why apple is doing so well. Everything just works.
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I don't believe the Nexus 7s or the Nexus 9 have HFP support (low or wide). I can confirm the Nexus 9 doesn't, I couldn't use my bluetooth headset for voip calls via Hangouts. Here's Google's table with Bluetooth profiles:
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6048862?hl=en
I can confirm that the table is correct about the Nexus 10, I used Plumble and Hangouts perfectly with the same Bluetooth headset as I used above for calls.
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I don't believe the Nexus 7s or the Nexus 9 have HFP support (low or wide). I can confirm the Nexus 9 doesn't, I couldn't use my bluetooth headset for voip calls via Hangouts. Here's Google's table with Bluetooth profiles:
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6048862?hl=en
I can confirm that the table is correct about the Nexus 10, I used Plumble and Hangouts perfectly with the same Bluetooth headset as I used above for calls.
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That table is wrong. I can 100% confirm that the Nexus 9 and Nexus 7 2013 did have hands free support. The Nexus 7 2012 did not.
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clubtech said:
That table is wrong. I can 100% confirm that the Nexus 9 and Nexus 7 2013 did have hands free support. The Nexus 7 2012 did not.
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I'll have to check my Nexus 9 with Plumble + Bluetooth then, only used it with Hangouts video chat and it worked great, but Hangouts Dialer calls to a phone number wouldn't work with my bluetooth headset.
Anyone here with the Pixel C on the latest developer preview? Can you confirm if they added Bluetooth headset support (hands-free profile)?
How can one check, which Codecs are used over Buetooth ?
On my Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite I can somehow enable under Developper Mode the APT-X and LDAC Codecs,
but how can I test it, if it being used e.g. in Skype for Android or other Voice Applications ?
My Blootooth Stereo Headset has Apt-X , but during Skype calls or a Wireless Video Recorder app, it still uses only the 8 Khz SBC bad audio codecs...
Any idea how I can test it and how to enable the Wideband Audio Codecs ?
Many thanks.
Regards., Stefan.
It has to support mSBC for handset:
https://www.rfwireless-world.com/Terminology/SBC-vs-mSBC-codec.html
An app like Bluetooth Monitor might show more info about the actual connection.