How does the device knows it's a card dock? Is there a chip and special signal that gets sent through the micoUSB that tells it so? Right now I use an ExoMount and universal charger. I want it to recognize and go into "Driving Mode" when I plug it in. What do I need? Genuine Samsung car charger?
Would this be a good use for NFC?
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I don't have any NFC stickers handy. And that would be another step is to enable NFC and then have it scan.
I'm using Profile Scheduler and one of the Rules is to activate my Car Profile when it senses that it's been plugged into a car dock. So how does it know it's a car dock?
Other phones have a short across some pins to trigger a dock mode, so it may be the same here.
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Other phones have a short across some pins to trigger a dock mode, so it may be the same here.
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I asked on Androidforums and someone said Samsung car docks have magnets that triggers car mode. Now to figure out where the magnet needs to be.
The original note went into car mode once you plugged the dock connection in. I dont think that has anything to do with magnets.
Nothing is going to trigger dock mode except a real dock. Car holders arent going to cut it
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The original note went into car mode once you plugged the dock connection in. I dont think that has anything to do with magnets.
Nothing is going to trigger dock mode except a real dock. Car holders arent going to cut it
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So you think the dock connection is somehow sending a signal to the device to activate car mode?
Some devices do use a magnet trigger, while others rely on a short across pins in the connector cable/prong.
Worse comes to worse, plenty of car/home/desk mode switching widgets.
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I'm currently using Profile Scheduler and a widget for it now. Looking to simplify 3 steps into one.
Samsung traditionally has used different resistor values between pins 4 and 5 on the microUSB port to tell it what it was dealing with...
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Finally find out how the car mode is triggerd
short circuit the ID Pin of the micro usb conector to any other pin will make my phone into Car mode and the car panel will popup if installed.
The ID-Pin is the 4th pin of the conector wich is the 2nd from left when desire facing up. Since the pc end of a data cable doesn't have the ID-pin, it won't work like this thread said
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6519276&postcount=10
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Ok went into the workshop and stripped the desire usb lead, I tried every combo of pulling the data lines to ground even both together, the installed navigator.apk didnt kick in , but looking at a reatime system dump i could see usbconnected and type(0) , type (1), type(2) had been triggered, on the differnt combo's i tested, why its not kicking in is anyones guess, maybe cas the Incredible navigator.apk is strictly configured for that device, guess the Incredibles navigators.apk has to be recompiled with new settings !!
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can someone confirm that
Can you confirm with pictures or diagrams?
So this means that an amended cable would do it every time?
yes, just like my car charger did, even when the charger is not pluged in the car lighter.
Can you please post pin-out schematics?
Thx.
i think the menu is hidden by htc as the desire does not have the copper pins at the bottom like the nexus 1. hence the nexus 1 car dock wont work on the desire. the nexus one can be charged with the pins and does not need the micro usb for car dock chargings / docking. i guess the car dock software options shown on the desire by accessing the settings widgets are a hangover from the similar software on the nexus 1 hence hidden on the desire by htc.
i have the car dock app installed (dont remember from where though) and it works fine instead with navigation / voice search icons etc.
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i think the menu is hidden by htc as the desire does not have the copper pins at the bottom like the nexus 1. hence the nexus 1 car dock wont work on the desire. the nexus one can be charged with the pins and does not need the micro usb for car dock chargings / docking. i guess the car dock software options shown on the desire by accessing the settings widgets are a hangover from the similar software on the nexus 1 hence hidden on the desire by htc.
i have the car dock app installed (dont remember from where though) and it works fine instead with navigation / voice search icons etc.
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HTC is coming out with their own car dock. That is why their 2.2 ROM has the necessary support for it.
http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=199788
neur0x said:
Can you please post pin-out schematics?
Thx.
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Yes, I would be very interested in the schematic
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HTC is coming out with their own car dock. That is why their 2.2 ROM has the necessary support for it.
http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=199788
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something like that has been on th expansys and other websites since april / may onwards! so i wouldnt take that too seriously till it actually arrives and car dock works when docking.
at present i use the car dock app which has to be triggered manually but works fine. i use it with the car mode app.
Yesterday i was driving with the car charger inserted in the Desire, when i was moving the cable sometimes the Desire gave a little car icon and my NavApp was activated. Sow i think i has something to do with the 4th pin, and you don't need a certan resistor attatch to it to get it in a certain mode.
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something like that has been on th expansys and other websites since april / may onwards! so i wouldnt take that too seriously till it actually arrives and car dock works when docking.
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That is probably because it needs 2.2 to to work properly. That's why the timing just happens to be after the release of said ROM.
Seems very overpriced if all it does is hold and charge the phone + short some pins together to enable car mode. Seems like anyone could make something to do that.
I some how triggered car mode on my desire yesterday. It must have been as I inserted the charger as I pulled away so may have shorted a pin. but went to car doc mode and had car symbol on status bar and I had to push to exit even after unplugging charger. I have not been able to replicate this since.
I bought 3 mini usb to micro usb adapters from eBay to allow me to use my existing car chargers and all three of them put my Desire (2.2) into car mode but don't appear to work as data adapters in my quick test.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310237922332
I see the car symbol and the notification tells me that I am in car mode but what does it do for me?
Thanks,
Since Froyo update I keep getting the car icon in the task bar when I plug the charger in...
Following the instructions I've made a "car dock cable". I intend to use it with a usb car charger when that arrives. I just soldered pin 4 and 5 together, which now gives me the icon and navigator pop up.
I used one of these cables : http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260636551302 as they have an easily removable micro usb end, plastic cover.
Can you give more details - 4 and 5 on the non Desire end?
Yes, more details please. Would be interesting if I can modify a Brodit active charger..
Philosoma said:
Yes, more details please. Would be interesting if I can modify a Brodit active charger..
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I also bought an active Brodit charger and it doesn't seem to trigger the car mode, so I am curious if it would be possible to modify to charger in order to achieve this.
Edit: I just sent an email to Brodit and asked them if its possible. Let's see what their answer will be. I post it asap.
I bought 2 different Mini usb to micro usb converters from Brando.hk.
Carmode triggered on both types when i use it with my old Athena charger.
think i paid around 6$ for a converter.
This might be easiest way without cutting cables and soldering.
theese are the converters.
http://shop.brando.com/mini-usb-to-micro-usb-adapter_p03683c0006d001.html
and
http://shop.brando.com/mini-usb-to-micro-usb-adapter-w-on-off-switch_p04160c0006d001.html
So I'm searching and coming up somewhat empty handed.
Is it possible to engage Car Dock mode on the Evo via magnets, ala the Droid?
I'm also finding information regarding shorting pin 4 of the MicroUSB port to engage Car Dock Mode, but I'm also finding information saying that shorting pin 4 just tells the phone it's on a 'proper' USB charger.
So what's the deal? Do we even know how to engage Car Dock mode via hardware?
I believe HTC uses a 5th pin to let it know it's on a car dock.
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I believe HTC uses a 5th pin to let it know it's on a car dock.
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USB Micro B calls for 5 pins -
Pin 1 is 5+, 5 is Signal ground
Pins 2 and 3 are Data+ and Data-
Pin 4 is listed as an 'ID' pin - if connected to ground, it's supposed to show a detection of 'Type A', if not grounded, then 'Type B'
I would think if pin 4 is utilized as 'grounded means 1000mAh charger vs USB's usual 500mAh' then how would the Evo differentiate between 'wall charger' and 'car dock'?
and the purpose of car dock mode and wanting to use it is.... ?????
You can manually launch the Car Panel from the launcher. Is there something else about dock mode that you're missing?
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You can manually launch the Car Panel from the launcher. Is there something else about dock mode that you're missing?
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Nope, just wanting to know how the phone detects it should go into Car Dock mode.
Looks like nobody's sure how.
Just wondering if anyone has had any luck with a car dock for the extended battery? I have a universal dock and it doesn't fit at all and keeps falling out. Suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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Found this. I think it supports the extended battery, but it doesn't look like it'll work well with a case.
http://www.proclipusa.com/?sectionp...older=false&have_mount=true&p_pageid=1&dtype=
Why use an extended battery in the car when you can just plug it in?
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Why use an extended battery in the car when you can just plug it in?
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Perhaps he wants to take his phone with him when he leaves his car (and wants/needs an extended battery for when he's not able to plug it in). It's actually very common that people keep their phone with them, whether or not they're in the car. Maybe you don't drive, so you don't know that.
By having a car cradle which worked with an extended battery, he wouldn't have to carry two batteries and swap between them every time he got in or out of his car.
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Perhaps he wants to take his phone with him when he leaves his car (and wants/needs an extended battery for when he's not able to plug it in). It's actually very common that people keep their phone with them, whether or not they're in the car. Maybe you don't drive, so you don't know that.
By having a car cradle which worked with an extended battery, he wouldn't have to carry two batteries and swap between them every time he got in or out of his car.
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Haha, thanks.
I just facepalmed his response and continued on....
The official HTC car dock kit supports the extended battery and it would be difficult to find a higher quality dock for this phone.
Is this what you're talking about? It claims "This car kit can not be used with HTC Thunderbolt extended battery. It only work with a standard battery on your HTC Thunderbolt." Maybe you could show me what you're talking about?
The rocketfish mp3 car mount works great, it has two adjustable jaws that you tighten to hold the device. It will hold anything up to about two inches deep and the jaws leave enough room to plug in the power cable and audio jack. It costs about $20 and it comes in two versions. Both versions come with the suction cup window mount but one has a vent clip and the other has a bike mount.
I have one of these in both cars. Just use a cig - double USB charger and the usb cable to charge the TB. Kept the TB solid in the cradle all the way from Michigan to Florida.
http://www.amazon.com/Arkon-Univers...OOZO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1307881940&sr=8-1
HTC Smart Car Kit features
• Automatically launches a one- touch interface to GPS navigation
• Suction cup with rotating arm positions your device for optimal viewing in landscape and portrait mode.
• Attaches to most surfaces. Micro-USB charging port. Car charger is not included (sold separately).
Please note: This car kit can be used with HTC Thunderbolt extended battery.
harleybob said:
HTC Smart Car Kit features
• Automatically launches a one- touch interface to GPS navigation
• Suction cup with rotating arm positions your device for optimal viewing in landscape and portrait mode.
• Attaches to most surfaces. Micro-USB charging port. Car charger is not included (sold separately).
Please note: This car kit can be used with HTC Thunderbolt extended battery.
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Link please
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Link please
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http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-thunderbolt-car-kit-vehicle-dock.html
taurus92 said:
I have one of these in both cars. Just use a cig - double USB charger and the usb cable to charge the TB. Kept the TB solid in the cradle all the way from Michigan to Florida.
http://www.amazon.com/Arkon-Univers...OOZO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1307881940&sr=8-1
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I use the 415 model, it's a bit larger, and fits the phone in a case better..
They are now listed available to order and will ship in three days, 1/23.
http://www.mycellworld.com/Samsung-OEM-Multimedia-Desktop-Dock-P182792877-P93055.htm
http://www.mycellworld.com/Samsung-OEM-Vehicle-Navigation-Mount-P182792874-P93056.htm
They both only list compatibility with the i515 so I wonder if they will work all the same with the i9250.
The car dock (second link) is the same one that's been on Samsung's website for a while:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ECS-K1F8BEGSTA
It DOES NOT have the pins for use on the side of the Nexus.
I'm looking for one that does have the pins so I don't have to unplug everything when I want to take the phone in and out of the dock.
The description for the car dock says you can plug your car charger directly to the mount. I'm so confused. I just want the pins...
Honestly I'd be happy just to use the desktop dock in my car. Double sided Velcro and stick it right to my dash. It's what I do with the car dock anyways (using the disk thing it comes with) and there's no annoying suction cup to worry about when the temperature drops. Plus it's lower profile and much easier to drop the phone in and out of. Especially when the suction doesn't want to play along.
I posted this mainly because I hadn't seen the multimedia dock available yet anywhere else, I just included the car dock link in case someone wanted both.
Seriously? $64.95 for a piece of plastic with USB headphone jacks wired to the prongs. Did Samsung subcontract this out to Monster Cables? Nice to be able to insert/remove phone wihout plugging/unplugging, but pricing is obscene.
Yes I made a thread asking about this about a week ago about a 3 pin charging cradle. Its finally coming out! .....and then I seen the price of the damn thing -.-
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Seriously? $64.95 for a piece of plastic with USB headphone jacks wired to the prongs. Did Samsung subcontract this out to Monster Cables? Nice to be able to insert/remove phone wihout plugging/unplugging, but pricing is obscene.
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That is exactly the same thing I first noticed. As much as I want a dock for my phone there is no way I am going to spend 65 bucks on it plus another 10 dollars or so on shipping the stupid thing to me.
but does the official pogo pin car dock support VZW models?
i don't think it was made for the vzw models.
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but does the official pogo pin car dock support VZW models?
i don't think it was made for the vzw models.
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Samsung® (OEM) Multimedia Desktop Dock For Verizon Samsung GALAXY Nexus SCH-I515,Verizon Google GALAXY Nexus SCH-I515
It only lists the VZW model, the GSM one isn't mentioned.
spencer88 said:
The car dock (second link) is the same one that's been on Samsung's website for a while:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ECS-K1F8BEGSTA
It DOES NOT have the pins for use on the side of the Nexus.
I'm looking for one that does have the pins so I don't have to unplug everything when I want to take the phone in and out of the dock.
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and why would you say its the old crappy version? just the price? the picture and discrption are of the good one. part number is even different although that could be their internal cataloging number. still no evidence of this being the old verizon model.
as for the price on the desktop dock, i'm assuming it has to do with the internals. has an hdmi output while only physicly connecting to the phone via 3-prong connector. supposedly the car dock sends audio to the mount via bluetooth and the mount is able to give you the aux output line from there. wondering if it is sending data to the home version the same way.
Well I know its no iPhone 4s in terms of volume, but how hard would it be to be for an aftermarket company to make a car cradle that works with pogo connectors? All you have to do is have raised spring loaded prongs so that it would work with a tpu case.
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Changed to 1/30 ...I think they are just throwing out dates
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Updates?
Thanks.
this looks exciting. Been waiting for these for a while.
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Desktop dock is pretty awesome, but a little too pricey. Nice find
The description of the desk dock looks pretty off. That thing DOES NOT have an HDMI port unless it comes with an extra wire to hook into the micro USB port. Take a look here for all the official dock options which may or may not arrive. http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/02/samsung-galaxy-nexus-docks-and-chargers-get-a-proper-fondling-prongs-put-to-use/#more-54594
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Desktop dock is pretty awesome, but a little too pricey. Nice find
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Try to find two DV casette cases and make this: http://imgur.com/a/wruWi#0 I'm going to add in Micro USB to HDMI® MHL Adapter soon to the bottom case and boom you've got yourself a media dock for less than $12.
guys did you think about one issue,that power button is at the same side as 3 gold pins ?? so inserted without root it would be pretty useless
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guys did you think about one issue,that power button is at the same side as 3 gold pins ?? so inserted without root it would be pretty useless
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I never used the power button on my Nexus S when it was docked.
Hi
I've got a Kidigi car dock which automatically triggers the car dock mode, and it's great! I now want to find a way of doing the same for the desktop dock mode when plugged into a cradle. I've ordered a Kidigi dock but I don't think it does this out of the box.
I've read of people using a resistor across pins 4 and 5 to trigger this on other HTC phones, and I think this is also how the car mode is done. Does anyone know what I might use... or is going to have to be trial and error?
I know that some people have hacked together pogo pins docks but I don't really need that (anyway I want the higher current AC charging).
I'd be grateful for any pointers
JAmes