I would really like to know if it is possible to get audio out from the Micro USB port. I want to use my GN2 in a car dock with audio out to my head unit RCA audio inputs.
I would rather dock with one connection via the micro usb port for charging and Audio out.
Using an NFC tag on the car dock to open Car Home Ultra when docked.
There is some sort of adapter/unit you can buy to do this. Iv have seen people post it, if I see the name of it I'll post on here.
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Yes and I have to say the quality is amazing. You need an otg cable, just a couple of bucks on amazon or fleabay. It has a male mico on one end and a female usb on the other. You can then hook this up to any driverless headphone amp or usb dac of your choice. I have tested with an odac and a fiio e7 and both worked flawlessly.
guisar said:
Yes and I have to say the quality is amazing. You need an otg cable, just a couple of bucks on amazon or fleabay. It has a male mico on one end and a female usb on the other. You can then hook this up to any driverless headphone amp or usb dac of your choice. I have tested with an odac and a fiio e7 and both worked flawlessly.
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So there is no analog audio out then?
I do have the OTG cable, so I suppose THIS would probably work:
Along with THIS
To my head unit.
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Yes and I have to say the quality is amazing. You need an otg cable, just a couple of bucks on amazon or fleabay. It has a male mico on one end and a female usb on the other. You can then hook this up to any driverless headphone amp or usb dac of your choice. I have tested with an odac and a fiio e7 and both worked flawlessly.
So there is no analog audio out then?
I do have the OTG cable, so I suppose THIS would probably work:
Along with THIS
To my head unit.
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That may be a possibility. I've also heard that iBolt is releasing a Note II Car dock that may support this feature. However it is not due out until the end of December.
If you just want analog out, then the headphone is as good as any. The http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003N0XDT4/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1353503718&sr=8-1&pi=SL75fiio. (hope the kink insert works... ) is cheap and will provide much better quality and level than the headphone jack. I. am not sure if the dac you linked to runs off usb or needs a separate supply. If you need rca jacks then its a male 3.5mm to male rca. There is a good quality pre amp that will give you 2v at least (close to standard car amp input) The one you linked to provides about 1.25v. I have not seen measurements of that dac so don't know how it compares to one in gn2.
The microusbs advantage (or limitation depending on your viewpoint) is that it gives you access to the pure digital signal which of course needs a dac. The dock linked to above and all others I've seen either reroute the headphone jack or provide a really terrible integrated dac which sounds much worse than the headphone jack.
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I have all these items and I can tell you that they work wonderfully. The car charger is especially nice. If you find something good feel free to post it and I'll add it to the list here up top.
Car Charger - $5.85 - Motorola 950ma MicroUSB Rapid Rate Smart Charger - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000Y8IH2Q - It has overcharge protection, is an OEM part, and really good quality. Read the reviews to make sure you get the correct one from Amazon not a third party. It charges faster than the Samsung wall charger and shuts off automatically.
Travel Charger - $4.09 - Blackberry 700ma MicroUSB Charger - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001LRPN0S - Has the same exact specs as the Samsung charger. Works great but a the tip is a little wide if you have a thick gel case on.
USB Sync Cable - $1.69 - Blackberry MicroUSB Cable 1.0m - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001QATRCA - Replacement to hook up to your computer or whatever. Supports charging if your USB port can handle it.
3.5mm Audio Cable - $9.36 - iSimple 3.5mm Male-to-Male cable - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015G5URG - Most expensive thing on the list, but it's really high quality gold plated and nice thick noise-insulated cable, for hooking your audio output to the aux on your stereo, computer or car.
3.5mm Audio Cable - $0.87 - http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10218&cs_id=1021811&p_id=6753&seq=1&format=2 - Retractable for carrying with you anywhere, kindof thin and flimsy but gets the job done for under a buck.
3.5mm to RCA Audio/Video Cable - $3.63 - http://www.amazon.com/6FT-Camcorder-Video-Cable-Sony/dp/B000I1D0BW - Composite video output cable, will let you hook up your phone to a television or other RCA video input.
So yeah, found a great deal on accessories? Post and I'll add it to the list.
Don't forget the video cable from Amazon. Just search for
6FT 3.5 mm to 3 RCA AV Camcorder Video Cable Sony JVC 6
xda won't let me post a link, I guess because I'm new.
why list a retractable 3.5 mm wire and then call it flimsy? just buy a normal one from monoprice.com
Wander73 said:
why list a retractable 3.5 mm wire and then call it flimsy? just buy a normal one from monoprice.com
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because somebody suggested it, that's why, and I told you guys I would list everything in the OP
I've just watched this video...
http://youtube/fCBFdNMhCCw
If you look at the charging cable for it, it has a 3.5mm headphone jack (so that it can be plugged into the aux in on a stereo)
Is there any way to buy just this cable so we can have audio over usb? Or even a way to hack one together DIY style?
Thanks.
The-Milkybar-Kid said:
I've just watched this video...
http://youtube/fCBFdNMhCCw
If you look at the charging cable for it, it has a 3.5mm headphone jack (so that it can be plugged into the aux in on a stereo)
Is there any way to buy just this cable so we can have audio over usb? Or even a way to hack one together DIY style?
Thanks.
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Have you tried plugging usb in from the charging cable to see if you can put into mass storage mode and read files like a thumb drive? I would check that first.
That would probably work but I just have never seen a cable with the 3.5mm jack built in. I don't have my atrix yet, just doing some research into different things.
Should have it by late next week
The-Milkybar-Kid said:
That would probably work but I just have never seen a cable with the 3.5mm jack built in. I don't have my atrix yet, just doing some research into different things.
Should have it by late next week
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Yeah, just so there's one cable coming down for charging and audio aux. Unfortunately, I don't see a way for a stereo or processor to read the phone properly until Harman's Google Open Protocol project gets into the market.
I have the dock/cable
One cable goes into the dock which the usb on the phone plugs into.
The HP jack comes out of the other end to connect to the AUX input in the car.
There are two labels on the cable, one says not to plug directly into the phone on the mini usb end and the other says not to plug into a PC (both in pictures)
I have the car dock and the usb cable supplied with the 3.5 mm does not work as a sync cable.
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It's a dock dependent cable. Great question and perhaps abthird party will step up and manufacture a micro USB charging/ audio combo cable that can be used without seperate dock. Alternatively, contact your local rocket scientist. Lol! Actually, the multimedia dock does exactly the same thing, presenting an audio out jack.
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But in the multimedia dock, I would assume that audio is coming through HDMI. This dock is much different than laptop dock and multimedia dock just because it conencts with phone only over USB but still gives an audio plug at the other end.
Also, I would assume that audio streaming is built into the cable and not in the dock because cable connecting to the dock is just a USB connector.
Now if audio is flowing through USB cable, the only question is if it can be played without using accompanied 3.5 mm audio jack?
To get to bottom of this question, it would require some USB debugging expertise which I dont have. Can anyone check with devs in forum?
There is no way audio is coming through HDMI because there is no HDMI port.
The car dock does something with the atrix where the atrix turns the USB port into analogue audio out/power. It's pretty much replacing data with audio out.
It specifically says on the cable to not plug into a computer, because the wires do not go where they are normally supposed to go (since it splits)
Mgamerz said:
There is no way audio is coming through HDMI because there is no HDMI port.
The car dock does something with the atrix where the atrix turns the USB port into analogue audio out/power. It's pretty much replacing data with audio out.
It specifically says on the cable to not plug into a computer, because the wires do not go where they are normally supposed to go (since it splits)
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I have no reason to believe that the multimedia dock (not to be confused with the HD dock) and the car dock are any different in how the micro USB connector interacts with the phone. One thing that we do know is that the micro USB connector on the car dock is expecting a special cable. It literally states not to connect the car dock wire directly to the phone. Anyway, the bottom line is why does it matter, the key is that Moto engineered a product that will charge and output audio using a single connector. The car dock wire has the 3.5 mm audio out. The multimedia dock has the 3.5 mm audio out on the back... All appears to be the same to me. One thing worth noting is that the multimedia dock will not interface with a PC. I read a post that described the connection type, but can't remember what it was.
Im not sure how the he dock works, but the webtop hack has sound. If the he dock is just webtop/hd sharing, then yes, its hdmi. Charging via the usb port. But I don't own those docks, only the car dock, so im not sure.
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Mgamerz said:
Im not sure how the he dock works, but the webtop hack has sound. If the he dock is just webtop/hd sharing, then yes, its hdmi. Charging via the usb port. But I don't own those docks, only the car dock, so im not sure.
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The HDMI port is for video with audio only and used for the HD dock, lap dock and webtop hack. The micro USB port is used by the HD dock and lapdock to provide USB hub like functionality to the dock as well as a mechanism for charging the phone. This USB hub like functionality is the basis for the lapdock keyboard/track pad and HD dock wired USB keyboard and mouse. A Bluetooth keyboard/mouse can be substituted I believe, connecting via the phone's built in Bluetooth. The multimedia dock and car dock do not provide computer USB type connection capabilities, and NO video capabilites, as the HDMI connection is abscent. Instead they will charge the phone AND provide connectivity for analog audio out and that is it. The webtop hack is just a way of activating HDMIfeatures that are normally only triggered in the HD dock or lapdock.
Yes... I knew all of that... just too lazy to type that...
so... that doesn't really lead us anywhere?
I don't think you can use the vehicle dock cable with the phone directly unless someone reverse engineers the car dock.
Mgamerz said:
Yes... I knew all of that... just too lazy to type that...
so... that doesn't really lead us anywhere?
I don't think you can use the vehicle dock cable with the phone directly unless someone reverse engineers the car dock.
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Yeah, I guesses you probably did, but then a noob comes along and decides 1+1=8.
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Hey all,
Not sure if this is possible but I want to somehow have audio out through the MHL/micro usb port of my s2. Reason being that it would be much nicer in the car to have 1 cord for charging and music rather than one cord for each.
Does the MHL port support this or could there possibly be an accessory to change the HDMI out feature to audio-only aux?
thanks!
also wondering about this for my AV receiver
i went ahead and ordered the HDMI MHL cable to test Spotify through my AV Receiver.
Since the HDMI audio is digital data I wouldn't bother researching down this lane.
But there certainly are docking stations that charge the SGS2 and offer a 3.5mm line-out at the same time, so it must be possible.
Pinout anyone?
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Since the HDMI audio is digital data I wouldn't bother researching down this lane.
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Don't understand what you mean here?
If you'd like to use the HDMI audio you would have to add a digital-analog-converter in order to feed your car stereo the analog line audio it needs. Plus I don't think the connector will allow charging while in HDMI mode.
So maybe it's best to put that port on the SGS2 into Home Dock or Car Dock mode. You might get some further help wit the pinout in this thread.
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If you'd like to use the HDMI audio you would have to add a digital-analog-converter in order to feed your car stereo the analog line audio it needs. Plus I don't think the connector will allow charging while in HDMI mode.
So maybe it's best to put that port on the SGS2 into Home Dock or Car Dock mode. You might get some further help wit the pinout in this thread.
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I think you're getting me confused with the original poster. My question was in regards to outputting just audio (Spotify) through my Onkyo AV receiver. There shouldn't be any issue with this, right? I've only seen the MHL-HDMI cable used on a TV directly, and not through a receiver.
Also, would it be possible to plug the SGS2 with the MHL-HDMI cable directly into the HDMI 1.4 input on the back of the TV, and use the ARC feature (Audio Return Channel) to feed either 2.1 or 5.1 audio back through the HDMI cable linking the TV and receiver to the surround sound speakers?
Wait, if HDMI out audio is digital out, can we play around to get a clean digital out signal that would play nice with portable external DACs?
Sounds impossible but who knows?
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I think you're getting me confused with the original poster.
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That's exactly what happened, my bad.
Unfortunately I haven't got the HDMI cable for the SGS2 yet but for the ARC feature I'd say it depends on your TV. Maybe you can try feeding an existing HDMI source to it and verify that a HDMI-in on the TV can be routed via ARC to your AVR.
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That's exactly what happened, my bad.
Unfortunately I haven't got the HDMI cable for the SGS2 yet but for the ARC feature I'd say it depends on your TV. Maybe you can try feeding an existing HDMI source to it and verify that a HDMI-in on the TV can be routed via ARC to your AVR.
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Yes, supposedly my TV can do that with the Freeview HD tuner audio, but I'm waiting for my antenna to put that to the test.
Solution: HD Fury II or HD Fury III. They have 2 channel analog output from HDMI input.
To clear up some things about MHL:
First of all MHL is not HDMI. By default, your phone needs to support MHL and your TV/Receiver/whatever also needs to be able to receive MHL signals.
There is no fixed connector type for MHL (the plug can either be proprietary or a readily available one such as USB or HDMI). Phones have MHL hardware connected to their USB ports. Upcoming TVs will have additional MHL hardware connected to their existing HDMI inputs.
You cannot use an ordinary USB<->HDMI type MHL cable to connect your phone to any HDTV. It will not work. You need an active cable that receives a MHL signal from the USB side, internally decodes it and reencodes it as HDMI, and then outputs it via the HDMI side of the cable to any HDMI device. That's why the cables are expensive.
The good news pertaining to this thread:
The active MHL cables we've seen so far are very small and compact. Basically the only thing you need is an MHL decoder which has an audio line out. There is no need for a HDMI DAC.
I can confirm that the Samsung MHL-HDMI cable for the SGS2 outputs both video and just audio beautifully to my home theatre receiver.
MHL to VGA is an option
Please excuse the necroposting. For future people who run across this thread when searching for MHL Audio products.
I discovered these products after some searching around:
http://vgaadapter.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/ikross-mhl-micro-usb-to-vga-display-and.html
http://www.ecvv.com/product/2822782.html
I'm not sure of the quality of the audio DAC but its an option.
But so is the Samsung Desktop dock or the car dock for charging and playing music at the same time through one plug.
i can't believe, but ac adaptor charger and p2-p2 or p2-rca cable work like a charm here
Hi, I was wondering if anyone has an experience to make a Samsung micro-USB to 3.5mm audio jack adapter to work? Something got into my audio jack socket causing contact issues. I don't have USB headphone, or external audio devices connected by OTG cable -- just plain headphone (or car audio's aux-in) connected to Note 2's usb port using the adapter ... will it work? Do I need an app to drive that?
kousik said:
Hi, I was wondering if anyone has an experience to make a Samsung micro-USB to 3.5mm audio jack adapter to work? Something got into my audio jack socket causing contact issues. I don't have USB headphone, or external audio devices connected by OTG cable -- just plain headphone (or car audio's aux-in) connected to Note 2's usb port using the adapter ... will it work? Do I need an app to drive that?
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this should work
eventually you can buy bluetooth headphones or adapter
yaro666 said:
this should work
eventually you can buy bluetooth headphones or adapter
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Thanks -- unfortunately it didn't, but maybe because my USB-3.5mm adapter is too old (from another long dead Samsung phone). I even tried the SoundAbout app (free version) but still no joy. Maybe bluetooth is the solution to my problem but it's one more battery to charge.
Is the Moto z play compatible with USB-C headphones? Can't seem to find any details.
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Is the Moto z play compatible with USB-C headphones? Can't seem to find any details.
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Wouldn't see why not, but there's a headphone jack for a reason.
true but the idea of NC headphones without having to charge them is pretty tempting.
I am using some gaming USB-A heaphones with an A to C adapter on Lumia 950 XL, so I don't see why USB headphones that do their own amplification wouldn't work with all phones, for any type of audio. The output is much better than with twice the money older jack headphones because USB allows for a lot of stuff to be powered inside the heaphones, but:
1. the USB-A cord is rigid (couldn't find a flexible one), this causing
2. every now and then the connectors to get loose and altering the audio
USB-C heaphones with flexible cord are now my first option.
Here are the headphones with the adapter: https://1drv.ms/i/s!Al4LUIrM3JSolLls6UBZB8qSeVY2WA