Hows everyone doing, like anyone who has this phone I am also waiting on lte. Im actually in South Fl where they are working on LTE service currently some of my friends actually say that they drive around and sometimes are able to connect to 4g,all who are under sprint actually. I just wanted to know if anyone who has a flashed device via boost,metropcs,veizon,etc has any luck picking up 4g lte service on there device in the few areas that sprint has 4G,any feedback would be greatly appreciated.Hopefully I can though when its fully launched I actually saw a video that devices that has not yet been activated was able to use LTE service by qbking77.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCp9BDNz4B4
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Hows everyone doing, like anyone who has this phone I am also waiting on lte. Im actually in South Fl where they are working on LTE service currently some of my friends actually say that they drive around and sometimes are able to connect to 4g,all who are under sprint actually. I just wanted to know if anyone who has a flashed device via boost,metropcs,veizon,etc has any luck picking up 4g lte service on there device in the few areas that sprint has 4G,any feedback would be greatly appreciated.Hopefully I can though when its fully launched I actually saw a video that devices that has not yet been activated was able to use LTE service by qbking77.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCp9BDNz4B4
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If you are flashes to another carrier I don't think you'll be able to use LTE
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If you are flashes to another carrier I don't think you'll be able to use LTE
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thanks for your input,are you in an area that supports LTE as of yet?
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I was wondering the same since there is a 4G hack for the ET, is there a hack for the LTE mac address, that would allow access to Sprint 4G LTE
Example: I am flashed to Boost on my Sprint ET, but using my friends Sprint ET 4G mac address for 4G access.
That is one thing keeping me from switching to the S3 cause I will lose 4G.
Yep I actually still have my s2 I'm using it as a walking hotspot
as far as I know.. there is no public info available on accomplishing this. I can't say it's not possible.. because everything is in some way or another.. but LTE is much more difficult than WiMax.
WiMax allows anyone and everyone to connect to the tower. Then, depending on your MAC address, you could browse the web... or be redirected to a sign-up portal. there are even ways to get through the portal without a valid MAC by using VPN connections etc.. the DNS port on the portal page is wide open.
This next part I'm not 100% sure on... still an LTE n00b to be honest.. with no LTE in my area to test things. But.. afaik... LTE is "similar" to GSM. It is based on SIM cards(actually a UICC card). On a Sprint LTE phone in settings you will see a ICCID number.. this is the embedded sim cards ID number. On a true lte system(ATT/VZW) the UICC is programmed OTA with all the needed credentials to connect you... for voice/text/3g/4g. On Sprint, it's more of a hybrid setup. It's still using the CDMA base... where the phone relies on the EFS/NV for calls/text/3g... then it uses the embedded sim(eUICC) to handle the 4G LTE side of things.
I have not found any good Sprint documentation on how their LTE authentication works. I'm not sure if it is OTA provisioning info onto the eUICC... which would make LTE hacking pretty impossible. Or maybe Sprint got lazy and is just using some kinda of MEID/ICCID pairing(sort of like the meid/wimax mac pairing)... which will whitelist an ICCID if its paired MEID if activated on an LTE plan. If the later is true, perhaps the ICCID could be spoofed to a valid one? But I doubt they got that lazy.
Other exploits could be possible.. something that gets around the current provisioning system.. but something like that may never reach the publics eye. Sim cloning is also possible.. but that would require hardware capable of reading a sim and rewriting... not impossible I suppose, but most likely expensive.
I wouldn't get my hopes up about this being possible. There is a very slim change anything like this could be pulled off. Those in Wimax coverage may be using the last hackable "4G" network.
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as for the qbking video.. I'm not 100% sure, but I was under the impression each of those phones had been previously activated... and that some glitch in the system allowed them to still work.. kinda like when you swap phones on Sprint and 3G still works for a day or so. It's also possible the tower was set up to allow all connections to test things(for a few days at most). Again.. I'm just guessing. Does anyone know if he can still replicate those results?
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as far as I know.. there is no public info available on accomplishing this. I can't say it's not possible.. because everything is in some way or another.. but LTE is much more difficult than WiMax.
WiMax allows anyone and everyone to connect to the tower. Then, depending on your MAC address, you could browse the web... or be redirected to a sign-up portal. there are even ways to get through the portal without a valid MAC by using VPN connections etc.. the DNS port on the portal page is wide open.
This next part I'm not 100% sure on... still an LTE n00b to be honest.. with no LTE in my area to test things. But.. afaik... LTE is "similar" to GSM. It is based on SIM cards(actually a UICC card). On a Sprint LTE phone in settings you will see a ICCID number.. this is the embedded sim cards ID number. On a true lte system(ATT/VZW) the UICC is programmed OTA with all the needed credentials to connect you... for voice/text/3g/4g. On Sprint, it's more of a hybrid setup. It's still using the CDMA base... where the phone relies on the EFS/NV for calls/text/3g... then it uses the embedded sim(eUICC) to handle the 4G LTE side of things.
I have not found any good Sprint documentation on how their LTE authentication works. I'm not sure if it is OTA provisioning info onto the eUICC... which would make LTE hacking pretty impossible.. or if Sprint got lazy and is just using some kinda of MEID/ICCID pairing(sort of like the meid/wimax mac pairing)... which will whitelist an ICCID if its paired MEID if activated on an LTE plan. If the later is true, perhaps the ICCID could be spoofed to a valid one? But I doubt they got that lazy.
Other exploits could be possible.. something that gets around the current provisioning system.. but something like that may never reach the publics eye. Sim cloning is also possible.. but that would require hardware capable of reading a sim and rewriting... not impossible I suppose, but most likely expensive.
I wouldn't get my hopes up about this being possible. There is a very slim change anything like this could be pulled off. Those in Wimax coverage may be using the last hackable "4G" network.
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Thanks autoprime that means alot coming from you, and as far as with the authentication procedure, any idea on how phones were able to connect to lte that has not yet been activated? So you think Sprint recognized the problem and patched it with software updates? That's what really gave me hope to think it would all be possible
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Thanks autoprime that means alot coming from you, and as far as with the authentication procedure, any idea on how phones were able to connect to lte that has not yet been activated? So you think Sprint recognized the problem and patched it with software updates? That's what really gave me hope to think it would all be possible
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check out the lil edit i made at the end of my initial post.. regarding the qbking situation. there was not enough info there for me to know exactly what was going on in his exact situation. but its very possible, as i mentioned above, that the lte towers had some kind of "accept all" flag while they were testing it.. who knows. If it's still able to be replicated by qbking.. then I would say there might be a loophole.
i will say tho.. ive never had the chance to personally test out lte. all i have to go by are documents i've read.. and other users experience. once i get it in my hands.. maybe something will change. trust me.. i'm looking into this.. and will continue to do so :good:
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check out the lil edit i made at the end of my initial post.. regarding the qbking situation. there was not enough info there for me to know exactly what was going on in his exact situation. but its very possible, as i mentioned above, that the lte towers had some kind of "accept all" flag while they were testing it.. who knows. If it's still able to be replicated by qbking.. then I would say there might be a loophole.
i will say tho.. ive never had the chance to personally test out lte. all i have to go by are documents i've read.. and other users experience. once i get it in my hands.. maybe something will change. trust me.. i'm looking into this.. and will continue to do so :good:
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O okay thanks, I'm going to be looking into it myself as well
I wonder if this would help
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Works the screenshots be useful?
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Okay so I am able to connect to lte but by default I'm not able to browse anyone good with uiccid and lte? My pic shows that my device was connected to lte but as you can see no 4g icon
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This is what it looks like when connected to 3g as you can see the network clearly shows that.I removed my username for obvious reasons
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Anyone?
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Toggle airplane mode on and off make sure data is not turned off because it should still show either 3g or 4G not blank like your picture.
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I have done that and manually disconnected mobile data, it does that because the phone is connecting to 4g lte tower, the thing is that I don't believe the iccid number of not authenticating so that's why the 4g is not popping up
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I have done that and manually disconnected mobile data, it does that because the phone is connecting to 4g lte tower, the thing is that I don't believe the iccid number of not authenticating so that's why the 4g is not popping up
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Has anyone figured out how to get LTE working on a sprint S3 flashed to boost? Boost offers LTE now so there has to be some way to get a S3 to authenticate on LTE while on a boost account. Ive looked everywhere and cant find diddly squat.
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Anyone know how to increase the wireless tether speed I have tired the built in tether and after messing with several rom's I am getting horrible speeds.
Tried to install wifi tether and could not get that to work either.
I am currently running decks rim.
Used to get speeds of up to 2mb on the built in Tether and close to 4 using wifi tether. now best I get is .8
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Welcome to Sprint's "blazing fast" 3g network.
Pretty much what he said you can try to do a speed test and see what you get but pretty much you can look for better service for better speeds
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You can also try setting up a proxy.
Yes, Sprints 3G & 4G speeds have been circling the drain for almost a year now. Tower to device speeds are bad; tower through device to laptop speeds are terrible.
If you have Easytether you're in luck. Back it up in triplicate. Don't allow automatic updates. Any updates will either remove it or render it unusable. ET is no longer available for Sprint 4G devices. If you can find a copy, simply side load it.
For Wireless Tether, setting up a proxy is definitely the way to go. Filter Proxy, available free in Market, will do the trick. There is a quick set-up guide somewhere here at XDA. While not as fast as EasyTether, the Wireless Tether with Filter Proxy isn't too bad.
I had this problem their are three things I did to fix it they are all easy 1. Call sprint and tell them you are haveing trouble makeing and receiving calls, bad data speeds blah blah blah (their will be an option somewhere in their voicemail that basically says that.) They will reset your data which will make everything faster. They will make you update your phones radios and etc. Cancel those and do it yourself (I just reflashed a rom I knew had them all included) 2. If you haven't already v6 supercharge and 3g optimize (they are both posted on xda) 3. Overlock the heck out of it whenever you run tether.
Ps. I don't think v6 will make it faster but it will make your phone faster so it might help a lil. Also I have never tried this but I know you can make your phone default to verizon 4g lte this might help verizon has better service where you live
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Also I have never tried this but I know you can make your phone default to verizon 4g lte
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Ummm, no, the Evo doesn't have a 4g lte radio.
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Ummm, no, the Evo doesn't have a 4g lte radio.
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I'm gona assume he means roaming on the verizon PRL.
No I forget where it is but their is deffinatly a tutorial somewhere on xda to make it so your phone will default to a verizon lte tower. Its cause the thunderbolt is like the exact same phone.
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No I forget where it is but their is deffinatly a tutorial somewhere on xda to make it so your phone will default to a verizon lte tower. Its cause the thunderbolt is like the exact same phone.
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You read wrong or person has no idea what he's talking about the evo has a wimax antenna no lte antenna we can connect to their 3g but never 4g on our evos
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I asked my buddy who works for verizon and he said their lte is basically 3g... And it theoretically could work..
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I asked my buddy who works for verizon and he said their lte is basically 3g... And it theoretically could work..
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Haha you have no idea what you are talking about. Again, Verizon's 4g is LTE based, Sprint's is Wimax. Two COMPLETELY different networks. The Evo does NOT have an LTE radio, therefore you will NEVER be able to connect to verizon's 4g. Yes, the Thunderbolt and Evo are similar, except for the fact that the Thunderbolt has a 4g LTE radio and not a Wimax radio.
And no, Verizon's 4g is not "basically 3g". My friends with Verizon phones can pull 15mbps down all day long.
Well he said their the same and it could work, he's managed a verizon store for ten years now so if u think u know better that's ur problem go find the post if u want...
And ur friend just has better service where u live dummy cuz my Evo is faster than my girlfreinds thunderbolt by five mpbs... Dummy
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Well he said their the same and it could work,
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Again, he's wrong, they are two DIFFERENT networks, which require two DIFFERENT radios.
he's managed a verizon store for ten years now
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OOOOOO, who cares?
if u think u know better that's ur problem go find the post if u want...
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Here you go:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9207642/4G_shootout_Verizon_LTE_vs._Sprint_WiMax
http://androidforums.com/verizon/65502-will-htc-evo-work-verizon.html
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/74384-evo-wimax-useability-lte.html
And ur friend just has better service where u live dummy cuz my Evo is faster than my girlfreinds thunderbolt by five mpbs... Dummy
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http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2011/04/04/verizon-4g-lte-vs-sprint-4g-wimax-speed-test-winner/
Again how do you know? How about this the next time I see my friend at carnagee melon who is going to school for electronic engineering and ill see what he says...... Back to my first point this dude just needs to overclock his phone and 3g optimize
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Again how do you know?
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Umm, look at the FCC specs for the Evo. It does NOT have an LTE radio!!! Look at the specs for a Thunderbolt, it DOES have an LTE radio!
Here's another way to check, force your phone to roam and then turn on 4g, it wont work!
Stop bableing like a lunatic, I asked my boy he said you don't meet a lte radio to connect because ITS BASICALLY 3G! he said the lte don't do nothing and Evo deffinatly could pick it up with some tricky prl work, he said he knows you don't think that would be 4glte but he said that at least in philly u get about the same speed because 4glte is a load of crap... So for the last time DUMMY
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Stop bableing like a lunatic, I asked my boy he said you don't meet a lte radio to connect because ITS BASICALLY 3G! he said the lte don't do nothing and Evo deffinatly could pick it up with some tricky prl work, he said he knows you don't think that would be 4glte but he said that at least in philly u get about the same speed because 4glte is a load of crap... So for the last time DUMMY
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So since you think you can connect to lte why don't you show us a good picture or video that it is Verizon's 4g you are connected to
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A. Never said I did B. If u would read you would see I wrote that at least here in philly (I assume its the same elsewhere) the 4g lte is a gag you get the same service on their 3g its faster because their network is just better so like I said the whole time you can just change the prl no need for different radios.
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Stop bableing like a lunatic,
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I'M the lunatic??? You're the one who doesn't know what he is talking about. Getting your information from some dude that works at Verizon is NOT a reputable source.
I asked my boy he said you don't meet a lte radio to connect because ITS BASICALLY 3G!
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"Basically 3g?" What does that mean? Does that mean a Ford Mustang is BASICALLY the same as a Chevy Corvette? I mean, they are both cars... Does that mean an orange and a grapefruit are BASICALLY the same? They are both round....
he said the lte don't do nothing
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That makes a WHOLE lot of sense...
Evo deffinatly could pick it up with some tricky prl work
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Again, NO!!!! LTE and Wimax are two different techniques, with two completely different frequency sets. A software hack will NEVER allow the evo to connect to lte. And again, if you are SOOOO SURE of yourself, why not connect to Verizon LTE with your evo and then take a picture of it.
because 4glte is a load of crap...
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Ummm, no, 4g LTE is NOT crap. My work phone with Verizon can pull 20mbps down all day long, that is NOT crap, that is faster than 60% of American's home internet.
Face it man, you have no clue what you are talking about. 4g LTE is NOT "basically 3g". If 4g was basically 3g, then they wouldn't call it 4g and make all this hype about it. Do yourself a favor, and actually READ those links I gave you. That is, if you are actually capable of reading...
Or maybe just make a new post asking if the evo can connect to LTE, I'm sure you will love getting flamed by the rest of the people here.
Hi Guys,
I have LTE coverage where I am, but phone keeps going to 4G.
Is there any way to force it so it stays on LTE?
I have tried the following app but no luck. Once I select the LTE Only mode it switches to WCDMA Preferred mode some how.
LTE OnOFF - HTC Thunderbolt, https://play.google.com/store/search?q=lte+on+off
Any way, any idea any one??
Thanks
If it keeps dropping back to 4G then the LTE service probably isn't strong enough where you are. You can't just force it on either. That's like forcing any service at all in the middle of the ocean.
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Previous poster is right.
But u can play around. Reboot to recovery, wipe cache, reboot. Flash different ROMs, usually one Stock based, another AOKP - I believe modems are vastly different there.
The only way to fix this is make a new APN there's a post on skyrocket fourms that shows you how
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I have done forcing on other devices such as Galaxy Nexus, currently using Sierra 754S that has feature where you can force it to stay on LTE, and it stays put.. Only problem it gets WICKED HOT if I pump a lot of data
Assuming you subscribed with your provider for LTE-service, then definitely it's because your LTE coverage is not great.
If you've never seen your phone connect to LTE before, I suggest you contact your provider and make sure you are on their LTE-network.
LTE-device doesn't automatically mean you're getting LTE service. I've seen people make that incorrect assumption.
Well, all you really need is LTE Sim card for AT&T, it works awesome ... as I said it works great with Sierra 754S air card.
So any device that has LTE capability it works perfect with that.
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If it keeps dropping back to 4G then the LTE service probably isn't strong enough where you are. You can't just force it on either. That's like forcing any service at all in the middle of the ocean.
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Assuming you subscribed with your provider for LTE-service, then definitely it's because your LTE coverage is not great.
If you've never seen your phone connect to LTE before, I suggest you contact your provider and make sure you are on their LTE-network.
LTE-device doesn't automatically mean you're getting LTE service. I've seen people make that incorrect assumption.
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No voice coverage on Lte so the phone still needs hspa to make and Recieve calls and text messages. Until all the voice over Lte and hand off standards are in place Lte is a data only feature.
On a data stick it makes sense to allow an Lte only mode but on a phone it would not be a good idea.
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Maybe I missed this but I didn't think that Sprints 3G service allowed for simultaneous voice and data.
I'm in Canton, Ohio and I just noticed that today I'm able to both use the phone and browse the Web at the same time without WIFI.
I can only assume that this is a network vision thing. LTE isn't in my future for a little while but I thought this was a good sign. Anyone else notice this?
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I noticed this in STL over the weekend, I am not sure how long it has been this way because like you I "knew" it didn't work so never tried it. I just happened to get an email while on a call.
SVDO isn't a network feature or capability. It's only dependent on the phone having multiple data and voice antennas, and the Galaxy S3 does.
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SVDO isn't a network feature or capability. It's only dependent on the phone having multiple data and voice antennas, and the Galaxy S3 does.
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So I can use data while on the phone with my Galaxy SIII??? Wow, that's AWESOME!:good:
Going to have to try this out once I'm in an area that isn't being 'visioned'.....right now I don't have connectivity even though my phone says that I do.
I found out the same way you guys did (im in Tampa) and did some reading and was really surprised to find out that our phones did out the box....made me love the phone even more.
Yes. Today. I received a call while downloading and it still downloading...nice.
Not like my Epic4g downloading a file 100mb and on 92mb some call you to say Hi!
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This statement isn't exactly true. It is both a phone and network feature. The towers need to accept multiple connections from the same phone id, as well as the phone needs to have the multi channel capabilities. Sprint used to block this, but doesn't anymore.
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Maybe I missed this but I didn't think that Sprints 3G service allowed for simultaneous voice and data.
I'm in Canton, Ohio and I just noticed that today I'm able to both use the phone and browse the Web at the same time without WIFI.
I can only assume that this is a network vision thing. LTE isn't in my future for a little while but I thought this was a good sign. Anyone else notice this?
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Reading this thread I thought you have all gone bonkers, but since my sgs3 is not connected yet I couldn't test this myself. Well my coworker has the evo lte.....hmm they have the same internals so I got him to try, it certainly does work. This feature is not advertised, would be hilarious if sprint didn't even know this.
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Reading this thread I thought you have all gone bonkers, but since my sgs3 is not connected yet I couldn't test this myself. Well my coworker has the evo lte.....hmm they have the same internals so I got him to try, it certainly does work. This feature is not advertised, would be hilarious if sprint didn't even know this.
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I noticed it just today as well, and lo and behold here's this thread! So I called sprint here a few minutes ago and asked the rep if they knew of it working.
They didn't. ROFL!
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I noticed it just today as well, and lo and behold here's this thread! So I called sprint here a few minutes ago and asked the rep if they knew of it working.
They didn't. ROFL!
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lmfao...another thought is this is not a part of the vision upgrade, just something to do with the s4 soc , I bet Verizons sgs3 along wIth other snapdragon powered phones can do it as well
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Reading this thread I thought you have all gone bonkers, but since my sgs3 is not connected yet I couldn't test this myself. Well my coworker has the evo lte.....hmm they have the same internals so I got him to try, it certainly does work. This feature is not advertised, would be hilarious if sprint didn't even know this.
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I don't know anything about Samsung ads, but the SVDO capability is listed in all the spec sheets I've seen. Sprint had to request the capability from Samsung, so Sprint must know the feature is included.
This was discussed many times since this phone was released. Shows how much people search and or research their own phone.
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This was discussed many times since this phone was released. Shows how much people search and or research their own phone.
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Ha. When Sprint activates HD Voice, I anticipate a ton of threads with people asking why voice calls don't sound better on the S3. Then, they'll throw a fit when they're told the S3 doesn't support it. It's just like all the people in non-LTE areas asking why their 4G no longer works even though they had full signal on their Evo or Epic 4G. No one wants to spend time researching their purchases.
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I have to admin that when I finally switched from my blackberry to the S3, I was so used to having wifi on that when I was on a call and my email was still coming in or I was able to launch a browser and look things up, I nearly went crazy. Being in IT I never looked up the phone specs to be honest other than being highly anxious to install applications from the Play Store and do things I couldn't do with my old device. Now I'm just looking for a good rom to root the device for wifi, lol.
I've been driving iSheep off the iphone5 with specifically this feature (not that there aren't at least a dozen more. I think that with the financial future of Sprint in the hands of Apple and the sales of iPhones the lack of dual antennas because it has a 'dynamic antenna' is going to cripple anyone who needs/wants that feature. To me SVDO is something that killed me when we didn't have it and now that I do I can never go without it.
Is anybody can explain then why when streaming the radio if I receive a text massage the radio stops (I know because of that ring) but it goes to buffer and chokes till start streaming again. This is the same as any other phone before so SVDS no benefit here.
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Is anybody can explain then why when streaming the radio if I receive a text massage the radio stops (I know because of that ring) but it goes to buffer and chokes till start streaming again. This is the same as any other phone before so SVDS no benefit here.
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Mine doesnt choke after resuming pandora but at other times it chokes. Its just pandora not anything related svdo
Anyone know if the Sprint
Galaxy S4 will also do simultaneous voice and data on 3G like the S3 does?
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No. The chipset does not support the SVDO capability.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-343-a-short-time-from-now-in-a-galaxy-not-far-away/
As for simultaneous voice and data, the Galaxy S4 does support SVLTE but is the latest in a long line of Sprint LTE handsets now to forgo SVDO. Realistically, this comes as no great surprise, as we have not seen SVDO capability in any new handset since last summer. Either this is a limitation of the Qualcomm MDM9615 baseband modem that has become standard equipment or SVDO is no longer a strong priority as Sprint LTE coverage grows weekly. Regardless, CDMA1X and EV-DO share a transmit path (indicated in the FCC OET diagram above); hence, simultaneous CDMA1X voice and EV-DO data is not supported.
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I've read YES, I've read NO...?
Is there anyway to enable and use LTE on the T999 on T-Mobile?
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Try going to Canada that's the only place that uses the same LTE frequency that T-Mobile will be using. Might work like the Nexus 4
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The T-Mobile network does not have LTE rolled out yet, but the hardware does support LTE.
I'm sure the way to enable LTE will include flashing a new radio, though I'm not aware of any that will enable LTE without bricking the phone or killing data communication on the SGH-T999 specifically.
Edit: So far it would seem that the LTE supposedly in this phone doesn't run on the same frequency spectrum that T-Mobile plans to use for LTE.
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The T-Mobile network does not have LTE rolled out yet, but the hardware does support LTE.
I'm sure the way to enable LTE will include flashing a new radio, though I'm not aware of any that will enable LTE without bricking the phone or killing data communication on the SGH-T999 specifically.
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Says who? I really think people should just drop this subject. And every thread started needs to be closed. There are plenty of threads about this
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plat_ said:
The T-Mobile network does not have LTE rolled out yet, but the hardware does support LTE.
I'm sure the way to enable LTE will include flashing a new radio, though I'm not aware of any that will enable LTE without bricking the phone or killing data communication on the SGH-T999 specifically.
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Can you support this info?
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Samsung says the tmobile s3 is capable of the lte... tmobile says its not... ill trust the people who actually made the phone
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Can you support this info?
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@woostar88
I've spent probably two hours in the last few days purely searching and reading whatever specs I can grab, including for FCC ID A3LSGHT999. Every time I'm sure, something knocks me back down to unsure status. It's especially confusing when Samsung, the maker of the phone and the Snapdragon platform it runs on, says it does support LTE - then T-Mobile comes in and says nope (and that it's based on the Snapdragon MSM8260 instead? wtf?).
While they are contradicting their hardware vendor, they have support reps saying both yes and no. No wonder nobody knows anything,
but I'm determined now.
Unfortunately for me I'm not as privy as I should be to the massive amount of terminology and mobile spectrum standards that have been bestowed upon us, but a little more research should bring me up to speed.
My answer until I have a better one is that yes it very much is an MSM8960, and yes, it does support LTE.
No, the LTE this hardware supposedly supports is not using the same frequency spectrum that T-Mobile in the US eventually will (like snoopy1e11 said in this thread).
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clninja said:
Samsung says the tmobile s3 is capable of the lte... tmobile says its not... ill trust the people who actually made the phone
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Of course T-Mobile says it doesn't support LTE. They'll do what they did with the Vibrant. Sell a boat load of them and then release a slightly updated version with full LTE radio. I trust Samsung before TMO anyday.
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newageoutlaw said:
Of course T-Mobile says it doesn't support LTE. They'll do what they did with the Vibrant. Sell a boat load of them and then release a slightly updated version with full LTE radio. I trust Samsung before TMO anyday.
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For all of you saying it's going to support lte, and that our chip is the same as att, answer me this:
Why can we not unlock our device, place a att SIM card into it, register it on att network, and access lte on att network? If all our devices have that same chip that supports lte as you all are claiming, why can't we do this?
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For all of you saying it's going to support lte, and that our chip is the same as att, answer me this:
Why can we not unlock our device, place a att SIM card into it, register it on att network, and access lte on att network? If all our devices have that same chip that supports lte as you all are claiming, why can't we do this?
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Your first three points have no influence from the chip design; The (in)ability to unlock a device is controlled by software, the (in)ability to use a SIM card from another provider (which is generally the exact same hardware) is controlled by software, and the (in)ability to register it to another provider's network is controlled by software, as long as the hardware radio chipset can speak the network's frequency and mobile protocol.
I don't know off-hand why it won't connect to AT&T's LTE. I'm also not an electronics expert but I can imagine that these chipsets can be controlled with firmware to restrict the frequencies the radio may generate or receive, effectively locking it to a provided number of frequencies assigned to the mobile operator.
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Says who? I really think people should just drop this subject. And every thread started needs to be closed. There are plenty of threads about this
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100% agreed.
The best arguments for and against have already been made. All i see this doing is mirroring all other threads on the same topic. Tempers may flare, infractions might be made, all because no one wants to be wrong and cant wait a year or two when the subject actually becomes relavent.
Search and read. Hint: general section.
It can be disabled on both the hw and sw side. In the end it doesn't matter because the T999 was never certified/cleared by the FCC for LTE. So they'd either have to go back through the process or be fined for breaking the law.
I'm convinced it won't happen, but to each his own opinion.
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The only reason that the tmobile t999 has any LTE files in it is because all the carriers have the same base rom then stack their crap on top of it! I know how to read code and if you break down most of the apps in the phone they will have provisions for all carriers, not just tmobile. Tmobile doesnt even have LTE towers yet so the answer is still no
evil1art said:
The only reason that the tmobile t999 has any LTE files in it is because all the carriers have the same base rom then stack their crap on top of it! I know how to read code and if you break down most of the apps in the phone they will have provisions for all carriers, not just tmobile. Tmobile doesnt even have LTE towers yet so the answer is still no
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In a few select places, T-Mo has LTE. In fact, they'll be sharing towers with Verizon.
But, the true answer to whether or not the T999 can get LTE or not is, gram crackers and apple juice. Yep.
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In a few select places, T-Mo has LTE. In fact, they'll be sharing towers with Verizon.
But, the true answer to whether or not the T999 can get LTE or not is, gram crackers and apple juice. Yep.
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You're way off... Verizon and T-Mobile are two completely different technologies when it comes to their towers.. unless there is no difference in GSM lte versus cdma lte,
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You're way off... Verizon and T-Mobile are two completely different technologies when it comes to their towers.. unless there is no difference in GSM lte versus cdma lte,
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Yes, I know, as everyone else, that one is GSM and another is CDMA.
But, fact is that T-Mobile are Verizon are swapping frequencies with one another. What I'm confused about is if this means they're literally using the same towers or if each carrier has so many licenses of certain frequencies and now they're giving up some of those licenses.
I'm confused.
But, what I do know is that:
1. The two are swapping frequencies with one another.
2.Verizon does use GSM LTE.
3. Gram crackers and apple juice determine whether or not the T999 can get LTE.
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Yes, I know, as everyone else, that one is GSM and another is CDMA.
But, fact is that T-Mobile are Verizon are swapping frequencies with one another. What I'm confused about is if this means they're literally using the same towers or if each carrier has so many licenses of certain frequencies and now they're giving up some of those licenses.
I'm confused.
But, what I do know is that:
1. The two are swapping frequencies with one another.
2.Verizon does use GSM LTE.
3. Gram crackers and apple juice determine whether or not the T999 can get LTE.
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Its simply a spectrum swap. They're not using each others towers. At least not for anything other than roaming services. Tmobile and Verizon will both be able to use this to provide better and more widely available service and coverage to more people. But they will be using tbe newly aquired spectrum on their own towers and equipment. Not each others.
Its one if the conditions Verizon agreed to for FCC approval. Tmobile swaps a small bit of their licensed spectum along with "cash and other concessions" in exchange.
Good for Verizon, good for Tmobile, good for consumers is the reason the FCC made it a condition. Thats how I understand it anyway.
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Its simply a spectrum swap. They're not using each others towers. At least not for anything other than roaming services. Tmobile and Verizon will both be able to use this to provide better and more widely available service and coverage to more people. But they will be using tbe newly aquired spectrum on their own towers and equipment. Not each others.
Its one if the conditions Verizon agreed to for FCC approval. Tmobile swaps a small bit of their licensed spectum along with "cash and other concessions" in exchange.
Good for Verizon, good for Tmobile, good for consumers is the reason the FCC made it a condition. Thats how I understand it anyway.
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So, then it's a matter of each carrier having so many licenses to certain spectrums... Like I have 600,000 licenses of something and you have 700,000 of another and we give each other 300,000? Is that kind of what's going on here?
Sort of, but Im not sure it works entirely like that.
I do know that Tmobile received enough to support approximately 60 million new customers in 15 of the top 25 markets, while Verizon received enough to support 22 million, plus cash and such.
I don't really know how the licensing works, but I don't think it goes by the number of users or anything like that, but by frequency ranges. Id imagine theres more to it than just you give me x and I give you y though.
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Such hostility in here over a easy to answer question.
In short:
No there is not a way to enable it, as it has not been implemented by t mo just yet.
Yes it will require a radio update.
Yes the s3 (even the t mo version) is LTE capable.
Was that it or did I miss another question?
I'm using a Sprint S3 on Page Plus that I purchased off ebay. The voice/text/data work just fine but the data speed is 1X and I'd like to somehow get the 3G to work. Can someone help me with that?
Thanks in advance.
kniwor said:
I'm using a Sprint S3 on Page Plus that I purchased off ebay. The voice/text/data work just fine but the data speed is 1X and I'd like to somehow get the 3G to work. Can someone help me with that?
Thanks in advance.
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Using a Sprint GS3 on Page Plus may mean that the 3G won't work. As Page Plus operates on Verizon's network, the Sprint radios in your GS3 won't operate on Verizon's 3G frequencies. Your best bet would have been to buy a Verizon GS3 as you likely could have gotten the 3G to work.
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Using a Sprint GS3 on Page Plus may mean that the 3G won't work. As Page Plus operates on Verizon's network, the Sprint radios in your GS3 won't operate on Verizon's 3G frequencies. Your best bet would have been to buy a Verizon GS3 as you likely could have gotten the 3G to work.
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How does, then, one sell a Sprint GS3 (SPH-L710) with 3G working on PP, on eBay? There are listings if you will see, with a working 3G. I just made the mistake of buying one with 1X data.
1X just means that you're in an area with no 3G. It doesn't mean that you're getting "1X" data speeds because 1X is what SMS and MMS are transferred over, its not actually a "data" signal
It may be that you just dont live in an area where verizon gives 3G
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CNexus said:
1X just means that you're in an area with no 3G. It doesn't mean that you're getting "1X" data speeds because 1X is what SMS and MMS are transferred over, its not actually a "data" signal
It may be that you just dont live in an area where verizon gives 3G
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I'm pretty sure Verizon has 3G here (I live in the city of Chicago, and moving around the city doesb't give me 3G either).
Anyway, I'm pretty sure the guy who did the flashing couldn't get 3G antenna to work with PP, which is what he told me.
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How does, then, one sell a Sprint GS3 (SPH-L710) with 3G working on PP, on eBay? There are listings if you will see, with a working 3G. I just made the mistake of buying one with 1X data.
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This seems to be a recent development for myself, then. There are a few Sprint phones that look to be fully flashable to PP with 3G/MMS working. You may have purchased one that wasn't fully flashed. Making it work would likely require changing more than just the APN. My advice would be to contact a seller on ebay who is offering the service only and see if they can assist.
Why not just flash the radios? Your on xda where everyone flashes about everything. The seller would of flashed them. But not to mention he's legally not allowed to do anything about phones that are flashed to a different network as it became illegal the other day. Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken
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ReapersDeath said:
Why not just flash the radios? Your on xda where everyone flashes about everything. The seller would of flashed them. But not to mention he's legally not allowed to do anything about phones that are flashed to a different network as it became illegal the other day. Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken
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No idea how to flash the 3G radio.
As far as the legality is concerned. This phone was unlocked much before any of that, and since now it is not tied to any carrier anymore (and no terms of service), making changes to the firmware should be perfectly legal.
You'll need a donor phone to get 3g. Some might help you here, or go over to the Page Plus forum @ Howardforums and you should find your answers there. You'll need a newer build of QPST and DFS CDMA Tool demo.