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[Q] Available internal memory for applications?

Hi all,
my wife owns a Wildfire S since a couple of days.
But I am quite disappointed about the amount of available memory (internal storage) for applications.
She does not have a lot of applications installed (about 5), but the available is only about 93 MB.
When going to "Settings - Applications - Manage Applications" it shows me at the bottom of the screen "Internal Storage: 57MB used, 93MB free".
The phone specs state RAM 512 MB and Internal Storage also 512MB. Why is it showing only 140MB in reality?
Can someone explain this, please?
Is this normal?
How much available storage do you guys have on yours, please?
(Btw, also via "Settings - Storage" it shows "92,07MB as available space" on internal storage)
The phone is a T-Mobile branded one from The Netherlands.
Thanks in advance.

Mine got 512MB internal storage as well, but i think that the OS uses some space that don't show up. Have you tried moving apps to the SD card?

Moving apps to SD indeed does free up some memory, however...
I have only installed a few apps (less then 10mb all together), therefore I am quite disappointed with the little available memory.
The phone is a dutch Tmobile version. I can see there are a few Tmobile apps built-in into the rom, but surely they can't take up that much space, could it? (Adding up used + available internal storage only totals about 150mb, which is far from the 512mb as in the specs?)
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Same issue! I got mine yesterday and after barely installing anything. Im low on internal memory and it adds up to 140mb not 512.

Btw android, sense and other HTC things take up that memory. It is only 512mb when there is nothing on the internal memory.

Same issue here. Quite a disappointment and no way to really solve it.

Hello all, search 'darktremor app2sd' in this xda website
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Im amazed at how little memory this phone has. After 2 days and 5 apps its basically completely out of space. I liked the smaller form factor but this is ridiculous.

U can move all of ur apps to SD if u want...and it doesn't even require rooting...i was also having problem with this whole low internal memory thing..but i found this...
"http://androidforums.com/desire-tips-tricks/174345-how-move-apps-sd-card-unrooted-device-noobs-guide-updated-09-02-11-a.html"
its quiet simple really...it does help a little...with this u can use "move to SD card" option in application settings for nearly all the apps..
Hope this helps..
PS : u can use an app called android tool box..its really useful..it has many options like app manager, cache cleaner,file explorer,start up manager and many more..it is quiet handy when u'r low on Ram or space..

[Q] Moving apps

Hi,
I wonder where is the truth about moving apps to SD card. I have HTC Desire which has really low space for apps. I used to use Darktremor A2SD script with CM7 but according to some users this can really slow down my phone while opening apps when I have slow SD card (I have 4class Kingston) and it probably does, becuase I experienced this issue very often. It was horrible and I decided to use different partition table. Now I have dalvik cache on internal storage.
Today I read that the more space I have on my internal storage, the faster the device is. The question is: Is this true? And is true that apps moved to SD (not using A2SD script) are slower?

On a very slow (cheap class 2) it can be true.
I have class 6 and not noticed slowdowns.
Theoretically - the internal NAND is faster than the SD Card, but if the ROM is set up correctly, it is unnoticeable.

davebugyi said:
On a very slow (cheap class 2) it can be true.
I have class 6 and not noticed slowdowns.
Theoretically - the internal NAND is faster than the SD Card, but if the ROM is set up correctly, it is unnoticeable.
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So where is the problem? When I used A2SD script I experienct heavy lags while opening apps (Handcent, gallery, etc.) sometimes 2-5 seconds. It was really bothering. Full wipe helped everytime but after two days lags were back.
Now I am trying have dalvik on internal to see how it behaves.
I believe that class4 is not so slow and I also read that Kingston cards are sometimes much faster in tests, sometimes similar to other class6 SDs.

AFAIK, it depends on the ROM, too. For example I had no lags with AOSP ROMs, just Sense ones.

davebugyi said:
AFAIK, it depends on the ROM, too. For example I had no lags with AOSP ROMs, just Sense ones.
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Ok. And do you think that the more free space on internal I have the more speed I can get while using the apps?

devcager said:
Ok. And do you think that the more free space on internal I have the more speed I can get while using the apps?
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You might. Again i Think it is affected by many factors. For instance, when I was using Gingervillain 2.7 the phone was fast even with 20 MB left on internal - then I moved internal & stuff to the SD and had around 96 MB free - but did not notice that it was running faster.

Try using s2e app from market, I'm using that and it works very well
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Cm7 slow because of app2sd

I have data2sd installed with 200apps....data2sd is very slow n lags alot...I want to use link2sd as its faster but will I b able to hav 200 apps and does link2sd use the internal space even after linking all the files to sd card..
HTC WILDFIRE S
ROM:CM7
1 GB INTERNAL MEMORY
806MHZ OVERCLOCKED
ELECTRIC CYAN THEME

Link2SD does, in fact, continue to use internal space.
Depending on certain criteria (which I don't know), certain apps will continue to throw some portions onto internal memory.
Even if you're as anal as I am about going into Link2SD (after enabling the "auto-move to external thingy") and then MANUALLY grabbing linked apps and pushing them over to SD... you will still cry, swear, and wonder where all your internal space went. ;-)
I'm at about 50-60 installed apps and I'm down to 28MB left internally (only started off with about 57MB though, due to custom ROM limitation (deodexed).
Good luck,
- Anthony

Which class is ur sdcard?
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kp.nikhil said:
I have data2sd installed with 200apps....data2sd is very slow n lags alot...I want to use link2sd as its faster but will I b able to hav 200 apps and does link2sd use the internal space even after linking all the files to sd card..
HTC WILDFIRE S
ROM:CM7
1 GB INTERNAL MEMORY
806MHZ OVERCLOCKED
ELECTRIC CYAN THEME
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Okay, so i have counted my apps, and i have 177 apps on the phone, and some of them are really huge, and it just works fine.. i am using a data2sd by jikantaru ... i guess your sd card is slow, or you use the bad data2sd script ?

try to class 8 up sdcard~

Class 6 will also do.
Dear god, what are you people doing with 150+ apps ?

LINK2SD Reducing Performance?

Okay, I have Link2Sd installed on my device, I have almost one gigabyte of apps in it. I was just wondering, that can it be the problem, cause my Arc S' performance has became pretty awkward(gaming performance is ok, but scrolling it the menus and so on). Anyone else having Link2Sd and having the same problem? I really wouldn't like to uninstall this app, because it does wonders!

What class is your SD card?
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ArmorD said:
Okay, I have Link2Sd installed on my device, I have almost one gigabyte of apps in it. I was just wondering, that can it be the problem, cause my Arc S' performance has became pretty awkward(gaming performance is ok, but scrolling it the menus and so on). Anyone else having Link2Sd and having the same problem? I really wouldn't like to uninstall this app, because it does wonders!
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No it does not affect performance.
Bear in mind that apps that are moved to SD (whether it is with Android's native method or Link2SD) do not suffer from performance decrease depending on the class of your SD. Apps do not run from the apk, it's not like Windows that apps run from the corresponding exe file.

Yeah, good point. Of course the apps theirselves are installed in the internal memory. Didn't come in my mind Looks like I have to find another causeto my problem

Use a file cleaner to clean the cache/ history
Try using links2sd to clean the dalvic cache.
Hope this helps
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Link2SD Plus version
I am using the latest version of Link2SD plus, which basically allows linking of all application files (apk, dex, lib, cache and data) to the second partition (ext2/3). Obviously this is a huge space saving benefit with the extremely limited internal memory of the Xperia Arc S.
Unfortunately, apps like Chrome, Skype and TuneIn radio (which require around 100MB each) have serious performance issues in this case; they become completely unresponsive and impossible to use.
I've experimented only moving certain types of the application files and noticed that this is most possibly caused by the cache files being linked to the sd card. By un-linking the cache files the apps become usable once again, but that takes quite a lot of space obviously. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Is there another solution?

I use link2sd on my arc s and i installed over 20 apps, it's fast.

I use link2sd on my arc s and i installed over 20 apps, it's fast.

I, too, must be another problem

Hello @ArmorD,
Link2SD performance relies on your external storage mediums read and write speeds; in this case your MicroSD cards speeds.
The MicroSD card which came with Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc is just a slow Class 4 card, with terrible read and write speeds.
To get better performance you have to replace the MicroSD card with something a bit faster; any class 10 card would do the job. I would recommend Samsung, Kingston or Sandisk MicroSD cards, they're all great.
Keelah se'lai,
GethPrime

Get a faster card
Get a faster sd card, preferrably class 10, they are cheap, been using link2sd forever n even now with kitkat, still fast

I have an 80mbps micro in my axiom and I am running link2sd flawlessly best buy has sales all the time I picked one up for like thirty bucks worth the speed.
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[Q] storage space

Hi all.
Was just wondering about using GLtoSD
And using ROEHSOFT RAM Expander (SWAP)
I'm wondering if I got a 64GB SDHC card class 10 and partitioned it to 32GB x2 the 32GB will be recognised and used by the system, then using the GLtoSD to put tons of games on the other partitioned not loaded in the system? If that's possible? And then use the ROEHSOFT RAM Expander to increase to RAM/Swap space to 4GB or something?
I hope someone understands what I mean? And if anyone has tested it or can test it for me?
Otherwise I'll just get a 32GB sd card,
I don't think a 64GB one works in the Samsung Galaxy Fame anyway, 6810p

OberZine said:
Hi all.
Was just wondering about using GLtoSD
And using ROEHSOFT RAM Expander (SWAP)
I'm wondering if I got a 64GB SDHC card class 10 and partitioned it to 32GB x2 the 32GB will be recognised and used by the system, then using the GLtoSD to put tons of games on the other partitioned not loaded in the system? If that's possible? And then use the ROEHSOFT RAM Expander to increase to RAM/Swap space to 4GB or something?
I hope someone understands what I mean? And if anyone has tested it or can test it for me?
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i recommend u to use "Folder Mount" , it can mount unlimited datas/obbs and even any folder u want, some or most of the Gameloft games uses sdcard/gameloft/games/ folder for game data than using sdcard Android/obb or data,
i'm using foldermount for now and its so good u can't complain about it, its just perfect
and about roesoft ram expander, i tried it but don't work i guess, maybe i did something wrong, i tried to play "Max Steel" which require higher ram than fame has, and i created 1 gb of saw with roesoft ram expander, but no luck, game steel don't play

toshiro71 said:
i recommend u to use "Folder Mount" , it can mount unlimited datas/obbs and even any folder u want, some or most of the Gameloft games uses sdcard/gameloft/games/ folder for game data than using sdcard Android/obb or data,
i'm using foldermount for now and its so good u can't complain about it, its just perfect
and about roesoft ram expander, i tried it but don't work i guess, maybe i did something wrong, i tried to play "Max Steel" which require higher ram than fame has, and i created 1 gb of saw with roesoft ram expander, but no luck, game steel don't play
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Any idea about using bigger SD cards? I have an 8GB atm it's only class 4 (tweaked) but thinking of upgrading to the most it can handle, preferably 64GB?
I just installed FIFA 14 and NFS both on GLtoSD and they both work fine, with the occasional lagg ha!

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i think you can use 16 gb or 32 gb with class med( idk now really about all class about sd card,but i think ,medium end is enough)