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Hi all,
I have been a winmob user for over 5 years and i know pretty much everything about them. (see join date) Though 3 days ago i got a a8183 desire.
My god i have a lot to learn about Android. Winmob seemed so much simplier to pick apart with registry and custom roms.
Anyways i have been reading thread after thread for days yet i still have a couple of questions that i cannot get clear answers for.
I have a a8183 telstra desire running on optus. I have updated to the latest offical 2.2 ROM. (Everyone mentions OTA (over the air) though i downloaded it and installed thru windows).
So i would appreciate if someone could help me out with my questions/assumptions.
1. From what i have read you cannot r00t a froyo OS. Is that right? Though i have found an app z4root that will do it temporarily until reboot. Unrevoked doesnt seem to work.
2. To change system files you need not only root though you need the clockworkmod recovery part of the bootloader. (eg. to replace HOST file for adblocking).
3. You need permanent r00t to install the clockworkmod (so i cannot do this).
4. You cannot remove default ROM apps from your phone without the clockworkmod.
5. You need clockworkmod to install custom ROMs.
So from what i gather.. r00t is good. though really only cause it gets you the clockworkmod recovery which is where you can really hack it.
And to get this i need to downgrade to 2.1, r00t, clockwork then use a hacked rom for 2.2?
Your help is greatly appreciated.
hi sage, i too came from windows mobile so i know how you feel, lucky for me i jumped on the android bandwagon earlier with the htc hero, after i got bored with my HD1, anyway your wrong on quite a few points, so i'll point you in the right direction.
1) the latest version of unrevoked (www.unrevoked.com/recovery) is more than able to root the froyo roms, its a one click app and can root your device in minutes
2) to easly modify system files you need s-off (this is equivalent to HSPL on wm devices) after you have rooted, you need to search for alpharev, this is a linux live cd, you just burn it and boot it and it will security unlock your device.
3) when you download and run unrevoked, it will not only root your device but insatall the latest version of clockworkmod recovery. (just hold vol down and power when your device is off to access hboot, and choose recovery from the list) so unrevoked kills 2 birds with one stone
4) to remove the apps in the /system/ partition there are 2 ways, from recovery using adb, or if you flash the s-off mod, you can remove them directly from your device using a file manager.
5) yes you need clockworkmod or another custom recovery to install custom roms, but now you know how to do it, thats not a problem
Hi Sage,
If you're looking for an easier way to get rid of all the Telstra apps (more like a blob of links really ) on your phone you may want to try one of the stock HTC WWE ROMs. It's clean and you can flash it via exe, just like in WM. The latest RUU I believe is the 2.29.405.2. Also, be aware of the risks of rooting your phone.
thanks for your response guys
Ok so i am now r00ted and running Leedroid's WWE ROM! (thank you!) it was actually pretty easy.
I think unrevoked was failing cause i was using a USB HUB.
OK so now i just want to remove some more of the default apps that come with it.
So i will try alpharev to security unlock my device. (is this permanent or if i reflash my rom it will come back?)
once i have done this i can then delete anything i like thru r00t explorer?
At this stage i am trying to just make some more room for apps. As a number of them wont move to SD Card.
A couple of last questions if i may. I have an new SD Card on order. Am i able to simply copy everything from my existing SD to my new and then swap it over in my phone and it will all be ok? Or do i need 'clone' it with some tool?
Where in the system paths do i remove 'shortcuts' within all apps? (or even simply rename them.)
Much appreciate your help. Android is growing on me. I especially love adb logcat!
ok.. i am now security off'd alpharev worked a treat.
i am now using r00t explorer to try and delete items from /system/app though they come up read-only so i cannot delete them
i take when i get to remove these the phone will have more stoage space for apps yeah?
i also still cannot find where the all apps shortcuts sit! (so i can rename/remove).
and lastly now i have the alpharev bootloader so gonna google how to change that
i did use the Leedroid apps2sd ROM. though most of my apps are still going to phone memory and i cant move them across.
Is there a fix for this? i guess once i work out how to delete these read-only files ill be ok anyway.
Unfortunately removing system apps wont give you more space to install apps, they are stored under a different partition, /system and /data are not on the same disk so you can save as much space on /system as you want but it won't affect /data at all.
With running out of space you have a few choices:
Go to settings..applications..then manage and move as many apps to SD as you can. This is fro-yo apps2sd, not all data is moved and not all apps can be moved, so you will probably run out of space again anyway.
Or
Reboot into recovery and partition your sdcard to create an ext partition, when you boot your rom ALL apps will be moved to the ext partition leaving lots of free space. Backup your sdcard before you partition it, you will lose all data.
Sage said:
ok.. i am now security off'd alpharev worked a treat.
1) i am now using r00t explorer to try and delete items from /system/app though they come up read-only so i cannot delete them
2) i take when i get to remove these the phone will have more stoage space for apps yeah?
3) i also still cannot find where the all apps shortcuts sit! (so i can rename/remove).
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1) Press on Remount as R/O, this should allow you to delete/replace system stuff & ringtones, fonts...etc.
2)No, because apps install to data/apps & not system/apps.
3)You mean like the applicatiuon menu when we used to delete shortcuts or rename them? Hahaha man that was sooooooooooooo long time ago for me. Anyway, the applications installed are displayer & you can't hide them or rearrange them like Winmo. You might want to try Launcher Pro to hide apps in the apps drawer.
If you need more info, ask freely because 2 years ago I went through the same
mr.r9 said:
1) Press on Remount as R/O, this should allow you to delete/replace system stuff & ringtones, fonts...etc. Typo..You meant R/W
2)No, because apps install to data/apps & not system/apps.
3)You mean like the applicatiuon menu when we used to delete shortcuts or rename them? Hahaha man that was sooooooooooooo long time ago for me. Anyway, the applications installed are displayer & you can't hide them or rearrange them like Winmo. You might want to try Launcher Pro to hide apps in the apps drawer.
If you need more info, ask freely because 2 years ago I went through the same
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Hmm..actually the new MTD partition table hack should be able to free space on the /system, adjusting partitions with less for /system and /cache and more for /data/app should give enough space..Though I'm not sure if he wants to try this right now, since it's considered an advanced task and maybe he'd like to get more accustomed to Android before attempting it? His wish though..
And well, there's yet another method to remove system apps, other than the other two methods. This is to modify the zip file of the custom rom to remove the actual apks from /system and reflashing it on top of the actual flash..
droidzone said:
And well, there's yet another method to remove system apps, other than the other two methods. This is to modify the zip file of the custom rom to remove the actual apks from /system and reflashing it on top of the actual flash..
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Ohh yes indeed. OP, you can edit the zip before installing it to your device. You can remove/replace application in system/data and fonts...etc. Just remember to change signature verification to off in your recovery.
my god. i have spent days on this baby and im only barely scratching the surface
much appreciate all your help guys!
ok.. so its time to use app2sd i hear that app2sd+ is better though? (it moves more data to SD yeah? appcache?)
i only have 2Gb microsd right now so i might wait until i my 8GB arrives before i flash a new ROM and start again (again!)
i also noticed these online kitchens. http://cookmyrom.co.cc
which look great! tho they are still a version behind the leedroid i am using tho its a good way to get rid of some default apps.
i certainly like the idea of reparitioning the default disk though not quite ready for that yet especially when app2sd+ sounds much more straight forward.
i am dumbfounded that you cant remove 'shortcuts' from the All Apps! or even rename them!! my god. i would think that was first thing available on such an open source OS.
So i have now created a folder called "Folder" to reduce the clutter.. and now i guess i cant even rename it!?? and if i create another one its called "Folder" too!
lol.. this OS is so advanced yet some basic stuff seems to be overlooked.
I did try launcher pro though it removed my HTC Sense (which i like). So i might need to keep looking for an app to help organise my All Apps and my desktop (is desktop what its called?)
And just how do i add ringtones?
love your work guys thanks again.
Create a folder called Ringtones on the root of your SD to have...ringtones.
When you open a folder, long press on the header to rename it.
As for organizing, I stopped caring & started to use search, but maybe if you want you can try an app called folder organizer.
mr.r9 said:
Create a folder called Ringtones on the root of your SD to have...ringtones.
When you open a folder, long press on the header to rename it.
As for organizing, I stopped caring & started to use search, but maybe if you want you can try an app called folder organizer.
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nice one thank you!
Sage said:
...So i have now created a folder called "Folder" to reduce the clutter.. and now i guess i cant even rename it!??...
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Open the folder then hold where it says folder to change its name.
Ok. Now have app2sd working!
thanks to all of you. Beginning to love this android phone now. I feel sorry for all the people who use them as they come from the factory! Thank god for all the xda people who rip them to shreds and make them better
If i can have one last question. Any way to remap hardware buttons to start an app?
Like when you hold down the search button it launches Google Voice. I want it to launch a different app..
I did a search and found the hardware button remapper though it only does hardware to hardware.. not hardware to app
For Folders(Assuming you're using full HTC Sense), just open it and hold the title bar. Took me some time to figure out. You cannot easily rename the apps in "All apps", but you can remove them(Which is essentially uninstalling them) from Settings > Applications > Manage, unless they are system apps which need to be manually deleted either via S-OFF + Root explorer(OR something similar) or ADB + Custom recovery(Clockworkmod or Amon Ra).
For setting a custom ringtone, open the music app, select the music > Menu > Set as ringtone.
so no love on the hardware remap for apps?
Oh well i have done a lot of googling and it seems it cant be done (well at least not easily).
My last question is when you launch an app from a folder the folder stays open.. any way to force close or change its behaviour?
for those following this. I found the Tasker app remaps hardware buttons amongst doing amazing other things.
Still no love on closing folders though.
i ended up using tasker to create app widgets to replace the folders...
If you want app widgets, there's also "Desktop Visualizer".
In terms of killing of an app, have you tried "Settings -> apps settings -> development" then there's an option there for "stop apps via long press"?
Hi,
I just got my new SE Xperia Play phone and got it with android Gingerbread on it, I'm not completely familiar with this OS but following information that I've read I rooted my phone and it is working fine, I did this cause I read that by doing this I would be able to remove and add apps to my phone as I became a Super User on the Linux side of it. Now my questions is, How can I do this? I've tried to find like an step by step add and remove apps on my phone with no luck. Also I'd like to get some information on what can I do and what I can't (or shouldn't do) with my super user rights ( i found this but not sure how to add this titanium backup on my phone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046699).
All help will be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Btts.
you can delete any apps including system apps by using TITANIUM BACKUP.
once you've installed it and run it click on the backup/restore tab at the top then select whatever app you want to remove (system apps inluded) click that app and there will be an uninstall option.
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU DELETE!
Hope this helps
You have to download Titanium Backup from the market
oh ok I get it, so it is available through the android market.. now that is for the Uninstall stuff part (thanks to both) now in order to get stuff installed into the phone is it there an option for that or can I do it using the linux terminal that is installed on the phone?
Thanks for all the help
OK, I have been where you are, and maybe this VERY brief summary will get you started.
1. Root - you did that.
2. Download and install the CWM for locked bootloaders from this link here.
3. Follow the instructions to power off, then power on and press down on the Volume Down key to enter the recovery mode. Then go to the Backup/Restore menu and backup the phone. This creates a Nandroid, or image of the phone so you can put it back to rooted stock if you mess something up.
4. Download and install Titanium Backup from the App Market. You can use this to uninstall any bloatware, including System files, but use with caution so you won't need to use your Nandroid! There is a safe list thread here that will give you some help in what you can remove.
5. Apps for Android usually come from the Android Market, or another market that hosts Android apps like Amazon AppMarket, etc. So any program you want to install will generally need to come from there. (Yes, I know there are some apps around that some Joe Ubertech wrote, but in general, you will want to get apps from the Market or a Vendor site, like Gameloft or EA.)
6. Use an App2SD program to move as many apps to your SD Card as are able to go. This frees up internal storage so you can run smoothly and have a lot of apps too. I like Droidsail Super App2SD (ROOT) because it lets you select a group of apps at one time to move. Do NOT move to SD any app that is accessed through a widget, or any replacement launcher program.
7. Be aware that Programs marked as System files cannot be moved to SD. However, some of them, like the preinstalled games, GMail, Youtube, etc, are also found in the Market. You can either delete them and reinstall them from the Market, or use a program like Root Explorer to manually move these to a folder on the SD card. Then reboot your phone, and you can reinstall them as user apps and be able to move them to SD as well.
8. Read. Read, read, read, READ everything you can get your hands on here in xda. It has been the best source of info for the Xperia Play.
I hope this helps you get going. Have fun, and if you run into trouble, someone here will usually be able to help you get going again.
Cheers!
netizenmt said:
OK, I have been where you are, and maybe this VERY brief summary will get you started.
1. Root - you did that.
2. Download and install the CWM for locked bootloaders from this link here.
3. Follow the instructions to power off, then power on and press down on the Volume Down key to enter the recovery mode. Then go to the Backup/Restore menu and backup the phone. This creates a Nandroid, or image of the phone so you can put it back to rooted stock if you mess something up.
4. Download and install Titanium Backup from the App Market. You can use this to uninstall any bloatware, including System files, but use with caution so you won't need to use your Nandroid! There is a safe list thread here that will give you some help in what you can remove.
5. Apps for Android usually come from the Android Market, or another market that hosts Android apps like Amazon AppMarket, etc. So any program you want to install will generally need to come from there. (Yes, I know there are some apps around that some Joe Ubertech wrote, but in general, you will want to get apps from the Market or a Vendor site, like Gameloft or EA.)
6. Use an App2SD program to move as many apps to your SD Card as are able to go. This frees up internal storage so you can run smoothly and have a lot of apps too. I like Droidsail Super App2SD (ROOT) because it lets you select a group of apps at one time to move. Do NOT move to SD any app that is accessed through a widget, or any replacement launcher program.
7. Be aware that Programs marked as System files cannot be moved to SD. However, some of them, like the preinstalled games, GMail, Youtube, etc, are also found in the Market. You can either delete them and reinstall them from the Market, or use a program like Root Explorer to manually move these to a folder on the SD card. Then reboot your phone, and you can reinstall them as user apps and be able to move them to SD as well.
8. Read. Read, read, read, READ everything you can get your hands on here in xda. It has been the best source of info for the Xperia Play.
I hope this helps you get going. Have fun, and if you run into trouble, someone here will usually be able to help you get going again.
Cheers!
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awesome thanks for the information
Also, grab KeiranFTW's tweak package in the dev forum. Best thing you could do to your phone.
Sent from my R800x using xda premium
Trygon said:
Also, grab KeiranFTW's tweak package in the dev forum. Best thing you could do to your phone.
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here's the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385236
University of Pi said:
here's the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385236
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thanks for the info guys, now I'm working on my other phone the Xperia Arc ^^, if a moderator wants to close this thread is alright
thanks to all
I just uploaded tiny noot, a very minimal root tool for the NST glowworm. I think it would probably also work for the simple touch, but I've lent mine out and cannot test it to confirm.
I am basically a cobbler here; many thanks to GabrialD, DeanG and the folks with the minimal touch root tools, which this is based on - and of course to mali100 and the CWR team for getting that on the Touch and Glowworm. Everything below is put together with parts from those projects using what I've learned at XDA and from Dean's nook color repartitioning scripts.
They make it possible for someone like me to knock out a package that's a little more convenient to work from than booting noogie and manually copying in files.
I am using the clockwork recovery zip installation mode for copying in the minimal set of files - I'm not trying to support the google apps or the many interesting screen refresh hacks.
I am not including a modified uRamdisk - the stock uRamdisk supports ADB, and you can get root via adb wireless simply by typing su, so I chose to leave well enough alone.
GabrialD has already released a modified uRamdisk for the glowworm (to support root by default as well as the light) but since stock works for my purposes, I'm not using the modified one.
What it does include:
su and busybox
nook color tools in /system, so that nonmarket apps can be installed
adb wireless
ADW launcher
Amazon appstore, so there's at least once source of "easy" apps
Button Savior
Nook Touch Tools
Supermanager and the Busybox updater interface
The install process is three steps. Four if you decide - and you should - to make a backup of your device before you start. (that process is: make the noogie disk. boot from noogie. connect to your computer. dump the NSTG or NST using dd or another disk imaging tool, and is described in more detail with tips for lots of different operating systems at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142983 That backup will let you restore your entire device to a known working configuration.
Download mali100's nook touch CWR disk discussed in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360994
the file itself is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=806433&d=1323121269
unzip the file and then write the .img file to an sdcard with your disk imaging tool of choice (dd in linux or win32 disk imager are two I use)
Once you've imaged the SD card, copy in these two zipfiles - leave them zipped:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ig75l5b9c24e7q6
http://www.mediafire.com/?2tfitzt97qqfaw7
Apply 1 of 2, then reboot, then
Apply 2 of 2
then remove your SD card and reboot. Although I have not gotten all the commands to run out of a single zipfile, Zydraka noticed, I think correctly, that you can run first the one and then the second without needing to reboot in between. I have done it that way successfully.
I tried putting all commands (copying the files, then setting permissions) into one file and the rooting process aborted in an ugly way. I ultimately needed to reimage the device to restore the oddly hosed /rom partition. After reimaging I was able to root successfully by running the two clockwork scripts back to back without a reboot.
A (very brief) guide to the CWR interface, for those who don't know it:
You will know your card is made correctly when you put it in your device and power on, and you see a clockwork gear nibbling at a nook N. Be patient while CWR loads; you will get to a screen with selectable menu choices.
Navigate up and down with the righthand buttons; navigate back with the lefthand upper button; choose an item or run a command using the raised n button.
Navigate down to "install zip file from sdcard" and hit N
Hit N again to "Choose Zip File from SDcard"
Navigate down to the first zip (labeled 1 of 2) and hit the n button
navigate to "yes - install"
hit the N button
once the first script is done, use the N button to navigate to and apply zip 2 of 2.
navigate back to the reboot menu using the lefthand side buttons. Once you are at the reboot menu item, you can pull the card, then reboot.
I used a 256 meg sdcard I had in the house for making the CWR disk. I find that to be a very convenient size for these disks - big enough to put a few files onto, not so big I wish I hadn't set it up as a CWR disk.
Thanks roustabout! It works great and it was super easy to do! I just got done installing a bunch of apps from Amazon.
Update: I just posted a tutorial with a video for noobs on my blog.
One thing to note, I didn't do the reboot that you mention in between the 1 and 2 packages and everything worked fine. I just installed 2 right after 1 and haven't had any problems.
Thanks for this, rooted last night everything is as it should be, the only issue I've run into is that I can't seem to install the Kindle app. It's not in the amazon market place, I tried backing up the APK from another device via EStrong and transferring the apk to the microSD, and I get a parsing file error. Any tips?
I have not been able to get Tasker to install yet, either.
One thing which sometimes works where other approaches fail (if you have the .apk file) is to ssh into your device (I use quicksshd) and log in as root, then cd to the directory the APK was copied to and issue the command
pm install blah-blah.apk
I have not yet tried that with Tasker, but it may also help with the Kindle app? I did need to do it for one of the apps I use, although I can't recall which one.
Edit: the 3.1 kindle app Zydraka points out works for me as well.
By default, the Kindle app is pretty unusable, very slow page turns. But by using the gesture-enabled screen refresh hack, it's very useable. (I found that using the no gesture version led to lots of apps just ignoring the hack's presence. I think Renate has a way around that, but I haven't read up on it.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22800284#post22800284
I got Tasker to install, but needed first to copy in the Maps jar and xml (to framework and permissions respectively) reboot and install via ssh - it might have worked just to reboot.
Since others may want Tasker available, putting the maps.jar and maps.xml files into the tinynooter is trivial, and I'll probably get to it soon.
I found that the older version of the Kindle app works, version 3.1.0.30. There's a donwload for it at Android Freeware. http://www.freewarelovers.com/android/app/kindle
So, after this, will the glowlight work in all apps? I need to make sure that, moon+ reader and EZpdf will glow in the dark, before I purchase the new nook.
thanks.
The glowlight seems to work in all apps. I'm not clear on how exactly it's turned on and off; it might be possible to have an app that uses a long press on the N button for something else, and that might interfere, but so far it works fine in the launcher, in the Kindle reader, in fbreader, in Newsrob (that I know I've tested.) even if you had an app that was doing something funny with that long press, you ought to be able to turn it on from the settings menu that comes up on a short press.
Once the glowlight is on, it seems to stay on until your screen goes to sleep, regardless of what applications you may also be using.
This is part of why I didn't get into the boot environment at all in this approach - I knew from manual rooting that I didn't have to change out uRamdisk so I decided to leave it all alone.
Thanks for tinynoot! It's working well for me, and glowlight behaves normally.
roustabout said:
I just uploaded tiny noot, a very minimal root tool for the NST glowworm. I think it would probably also work for the simple touch, but I've lent mine out and cannot test it to confirm.
I am basically a cobbler here; many thanks to GabrialD, DeanG and the folks with the minimal touch root tools, which this is based on - and of course to mali100 and the CWR team for getting that on the Touch and Glowworm. Everything below is put together with parts from those projects using what I've learned at XDA and from Dean's nook color repartitioning scripts.
They make it possible for someone like me to knock out a package that's a little more convenient to work from than booting noogie and manually copying in files.
I am using the clockwork recovery zip installation mode for copying in the minimal set of files - I'm not trying to support the google apps or the many interesting screen refresh hacks.
I am not including a modified uRamdisk - the stock uRamdisk supports ADB, and you can get root via adb wireless simply by typing su, so I chose to leave well enough alone.
GabrialD has already released a modified uRamdisk for the glowworm (to support root by default as well as the light) but since stock works for my purposes, I'm not using the modified one.
What it does include:
su and busybox
nook color tools in /system, so that nonmarket apps can be installed
adb wireless
ADW launcher
Amazon appstore, so there's at least once source of "easy" apps
Button Savior
Nook Touch Tools
Supermanager and the Busybox updater interface
The install process is three steps. Four if you decide - and you should - to make a backup of your device before you start. (that process is: make the noogie disk. boot from noogie. connect to your computer. dump the NSTG or NST using dd or another disk imaging tool, and is described in more detail with tips for lots of different operating systems at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142983 That backup will let you restore your entire device to a known working configuration.
Download mali100's nook touch CWR disk discussed in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360994
the file itself is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=806433&d=1323121269
unzip the file and then write the .img file to an sdcard with your disk imaging tool of choice (dd in linux or win32 disk imager are two I use)
Once you've imaged the SD card, copy in these two zipfiles - leave them zipped:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ig75l5b9c24e7q6
http://www.mediafire.com/?2tfitzt97qqfaw7
Apply 1 of 2, then reboot, then
Apply 2 of 2
then remove your SD card and reboot. Although I have not gotten all the commands to run out of a single zipfile, Zydraka noticed, I think correctly, that you can run first the one and then the second without needing to reboot in between. I have done it that way successfully.
I tried putting all commands (copying the files, then setting permissions) into one file and the rooting process aborted in an ugly way. I ultimately needed to reimage the device to restore the oddly hosed /rom partition. After reimaging I was able to root successfully by running the two clockwork scripts back to back without a reboot.
A (very brief) guide to the CWR interface, for those who don't know it:
You will know your card is made correctly when you put it in your device and power on, and you see a clockwork gear nibbling at a nook N. Be patient while CWR loads; you will get to a screen with selectable menu choices.
Navigate up and down with the righthand buttons; navigate back with the lefthand upper button; choose an item or run a command using the raised n button.
Navigate down to "install zip file from sdcard" and hit N
Hit N again to "Choose Zip File from SDcard"
Navigate down to the first zip (labeled 1 of 2) and hit the n button
navigate to "yes - install"
hit the N button
once the first script is done, use the N button to navigate to and apply zip 2 of 2.
navigate back to the reboot menu using the lefthand side buttons. Once you are at the reboot menu item, you can pull the card, then reboot.
I used a 256 meg sdcard I had in the house for making the CWR disk. I find that to be a very convenient size for these disks - big enough to put a few files onto, not so big I wish I hadn't set it up as a CWR disk.
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You know, it should be nice if before using the packages other people create, for your own project, you asked them for permission to use them, if not, at least create your own scripts.....
Yes I'm refering to me.... thats not cool.
Anyway, the two step process is not necessary here, thats just for preventing some Gapps database corruption, you edited that code away allready and there are no Gapps installed, so add the code to correct the permissions on the first zip, and everything should work fine, no need to rm dalvik either if you arent modifying framework.jar, etc, it should also speed the first boot time.
I apologize - this was intended to be a quick hack and largely for my own use (as I was testing stuff on both my and my girlfriend's glowworms) but I realized there were a lot of folks trying to root their gw's manually. I thought it worked well enough to share.
I didn't intend to present it as original and if I appeared to I apologize.
Say the word and I will yank the thread outright, and I would have no objection to your asking the mods to do so, either.
roustabout said:
I apologize - this was intended to be a quick hack and largely for my own use (as I was testing stuff on both my and my girlfriend's glowworms) but I realized there were a lot of folks trying to root their gw's manually. I thought it worked well enough to share.
I didn't intend to present it as original and if I appeared to I apologize.
Say the word and I will yank the thread outright, and I would have no objection to your asking the mods to do so, either.
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Don't worry, just stating that before creating a thread with others people work, you should ask them.
Everything is fine, It didn't even pass my mind the idea of reporting it, we are a small niche community, active members must be praised, so dont worry, and I encorage you to keep deving ^^, just that before using other peoples work and starting a thread with it, ask them for permission, no one is gonna deny it and it's the kind way of doing things .
I'm planning to get my hands on a Glow tonight, so over the weekend I should be able to get together a full Nooter for it.
tiny noot - also works for older NST
Just so folks know, I've confirmed that the tinynoot rooter also works on the NST running 1.1.2 firmware.
It will probably work on earlier firmware also, since it is not replacing uRamdisk or framework files.
Are Supermanager and the Busybox Updater supposed to work? Supermanager crashes back to home, and Busybox won't install.
Did you apply both files, and is there an sd card in your device? I just tested the busybox updater and was able to get it to update the installed busybox. It requires that you have an sdcard inserted to work - I remember being puzzled by that the first time I tried using it on a device.
supermanager is crashing. I hadn't tried running it on the device before, and hadn't noticed that.
Looking at logcat, yes, supermanager's crashing in the background quite a bit. It seems to be looking for things which are not available, for instance, a dialer, and erroring out when it can't find them.
roustabout said:
[...] supermanager is crashing. I hadn't tried running it on the device before, and hadn't noticed that.
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Supermanager has always been a problem, at least for me, using TouchNooter. I believe it's intended to provide file manager capability, particularly for installing APKs on uSD. Once I get Market (Play Store) access, reinstalling supermanager fixes the problem. At that point, I don't need it anymore.
I've always had to work around this when rooting my Touch devices. I'd suggest a basic file manager be provided instead for Day 1.
I'm rooted with tinynoot. Recently I've been experiencing excessive battery drain. I'm eliminating apps I'd installed to if that helps. Wondering if anyone has experience with apps that are problematic in that regard? Dropbox? Amazon Appstore? Facebook? 1Mobile Market? I assume nothing that was provided by default with tinynoot. Thanks.
Hi Glowco,
I'd suggest installing task management apps to get a view of what is actually running (not all processes relate to an installed app icon that you can uninstall). I use Advanced Task Manager to view running apps, and Autorun Manager to control what processes start up at boot time.
Ian
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. In the meantime, as an experiment I uninstalled several apps including Amazon Appstore, 1Mobile Market, FB, and Wireless ADB. Good result - my battery charge hasn't decreased in an hour and a half. If I decide I miss them I can try adding them back and use your method.
That's good news!
I'd suggest that Wireless ADB is not to blame, since it does not stay resident once it's closed and in any case does nothing until you click the big red button
Of the others, I have Amazon Marketplace installed and I don't experience any battery issues (I'm Glownooted not Tinynooted but don't think that's relevant in this discussion), but I can't speak for the other two apps. If I were paranoid (and I am! ) I would point at Facebook, since it's purpose is marketing and wants to follow your every move
Ian
Edit: Please note this post does have a resolution at the end.
Did you ever have a tech quandry you just had to solve?
Last year I hid some apps in/from the app drawer of a stock, S-On, not unlocked or rooted, T-mobile HTC Wildfire S with the stock Sense 2.1 UI. I want to unhide them and can't find the info on how I hid them anywhere. They do show up in a different launcher, like LauncherPro. They're not disabled, I already checked that in adb in the Android SDK.
I can run them, either from Titanium Backup or Launcher Pro, and then from my recent apps drawer in Sense 2.1 after I've run them in one of the mentioned ways; but, I really want to get those icons back and do a CWM backup of my stock ROM before I start trying custom ROMs on this phone. I like Sense and want to be able to go back if I choose.
I'm rooted now thanks to the many articles and guides here. Unlocked at HTC Dev, and ran root.zip. Installed SuperUser, ROM_Manager, TitaniumBackup
I have spent a LOT of time recently and all day every day since Monday researching here and at Android Forums, the 2 defacto places for phone knowledge. I've also used Google, searched on Life Hacker, looked in all my browsers favs for articles, searched my computers for notes (I usually make a file in Notepad for things I do that I might not remember), checked magazines I read, and so on.
I don't know if I did something in adb, changed a manifest (too many to do that), or installed a launcher that left those apps hidden when it was deleted. I hid about a half dozen apps/icons.
There has to be an answer.
Sure would appreciate some help. I'm exhausted trying to find the tip/trick I followed to do this so I can undo it. If it will help. When I try to enable the Stocks package in adb I get a return of:
C:\>adb shell pm enable com.htc.android.Stock
[1] Killed pm enable com.ht...
Does that mean I killed the app, "Way back when"; or, maybe just the process is killed without invoking root (remember the phone wasn't rooted when I first did this)? If I do it this way invoking root, I get a diff result, but neither way shows the app (unlike freezing/unfreezing in the many apps like TB, etc.):
C:\>adb shell
$ su
su
# pm enable com.htc.android.Stock
pm enable com.htc.android.Stock
Package com.htc.android.Stock new state: enabled
BTW if I disable it disappears from LauncherPro and then enable and it reappears in Launcher Pro; but, nothing gets it to reappear in Sense except in the recent apps drawer after I open it in Launcher Pro or TB as mentioned in the above post.
The control has to be in a file somewhere. Do phones have an, "xxx.ini" file for apps like computers sometimes do?
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MiCeltic said:
Sure would appreciate some help. I'm exhausted trying to find the tip/trick I followed to do this so I can undo it. If it will help. When I try to enable the Stocks package in adb I get a return of:
C:\>adb shell pm enable com.htc.android.Stock
[1] Killed pm enable com.ht...
Does that mean I killed the app, "Way back when"; or, maybe just the process is killed without invoking root (remember the phone wasn't rooted when I first did this)? If I do it this way invoking root, I get a diff result, but neither way shows the app (unlike freezing/unfreezing in the many apps like TB, etc.):
C:\>adb shell
$ su
su
# pm enable com.htc.android.Stock
pm enable com.htc.android.Stock
Package com.htc.android.Stock new state: enabled
BTW if I disable it disappears from LauncherPro and then enable and it reappears in Launcher Pro; but, nothing gets it to reappear in Sense except in the recent apps drawer after I open it in Launcher Pro or TB as mentioned in the above post.
The control has to be in a file somewhere. Do phones have an, "xxx.ini" file for apps like computers sometimes do?
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What apps are you trying to show again? Since you have root you can try to use a root uninstaller app to make a back up of the app first, then reboot the phone. Then use the app to reinstall and then reboot to recovery and use fix permissions.
Feel free to make a nandroid back up first just incase you lose any data
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda premium
Thanks for the response heavy_metal_man. It's hard to tell everything. I missed what and the kind of apps, thanks. I am talking about system apps like, "Stocks" and, "Voice Recorder", and there's others. I did Fix permissions in ROM Manager before and it didn't fix anything. I have tried a lot of stuff and am getting flustered and tired, but not giving up! For the sake of knowledge, I really want to find out the what and how...not just use a workaround. I tried your suggestions with, "Voice Recorder"...backed up in Titanium Backup...uninstalled with Root Uninstaller...checked everything to be sure it was gone and then restarted...attempted a restore of, "App only" with TB and it just churned long enough to know it was hung (I did get a notice there was an update, but don't think that would interfere); so, I powered off and restarted. No changes; so, tried another restore of, "App + Data"...same thing it just churned...another restart and everthing was back to the way it was. VoiceRec in Settings>>Apps>>ManageApps, but not in the Sense app drawer. I then couldn't get ROM Manager to do anything when I selected Fix Permissions...couldn't get into TB, did the update, still couldn't get ROM Mgr or TB to do anything, and so did a battery pull restart...I did go into CWM, but just rebooted. Then everything was normal, meaning as before, and fixed Permissions in ROM Manger. I don't think it matters whether I fix in CWM, ROM Mgr, or ADB...they're all reading the same .xml files to set permissions. Anyway, No VoiceRec in the Apps Drawer.
So I'm back to square one. Any more ideas I'll be glad to try them. I don't think I used APKToolkit to do anything or that it would be in the apk's. Tomorrow I think I'll try to find something in the package xml's...just need to find the right package that would address them all. I've looked at a few, but just for change dates on all the files in the packages...all were 2009, and I'd have done this in 2012.
Thanks again...tomorrow is another day.
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Hmm. For the sake of argument make a full backup and then factory reset from recovery, then reboot and go through the first setup nonsense. Are the apps back?
Also the sense launcher is called Rosie should that ring any bells.
If a factory reset doesn't fix this then you may have to flash a stock rom to sort it like
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h_m_m,
I did a factory data reset myself before, which I believe is really just an erase of data, and not a real reset (like formatting and reinstalling an OS in a computer). Then of course there was the factory reset that occurred after unlocking and rooting. Neither of those changed anything. I have flashed a CWM recovery after rooting.
Are you saying, boot into recovery:
1. Factory Reset as
a. DO NOT wipe the factory data reset
b. Wipe cache and dalvik cache
c. Throw in a wipe of the batt stats too
then
d. Do the factory data reset and let all the caches rebuild as they will
or
2. Factory Reset as
a. Wipe factory data reset
b. Wipe cache and dalvik cache
c. Wipe batt stats
then
d. Backup and Restore>>Advance Restore>>Original ROM>>Restore system (not the data, cache or any of the other stuff there)
If number 2., then I wonder if that would put me back to OOB (Out Of Box), and if so, would I lose root, have T-mobile...yeah, I like T-mobile for some things - - blame it on Catherine Zeta-Jones time as spokesperson. As long as I have CWM recovery and have backed up from there I can't do anything that would ever leave the phone bricked; and, I can always unlock and root again if needed.
Either 1. or 2. I want to hold those in reserve because I do want to find out how I hide them. They act exactly as though they're disabled, i.e., The icon is gone, but I still get updates (Voice Recorder was updated just a week ago); however, they're only disabled in SenseUI. LauncherPro shows them all, and of course functionally...and remember once I run one of these apps, like Stocks, in LauncherPro, I can then switch to Sense and run it from my recent apps (long press on Home) or the pull down notifications area list of recents.
BTW, You were too gentlemanly to ask, but I clicked a couple, "Thanks" for you today. I was tired and forgot yesterday. We may not solve anything, but I'm enjoying/appreciate the conversaton/thread.
Even though I'm holding on those ideas above, let me know which/what you think of them please, in case I ultimately go that way. I did clear the data in Apps>>Manage for both of the HTC Senses and Rosie. I'll have to look at what's in Rosie though, maybe that holds the key!
As an aside, the first personal web page I made had, "Iron Man" as the background music!
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MiCeltic said:
h_m_m,
I did a factory data reset myself before, which I believe is really just an erase of data, and not a real reset (like formatting and reinstalling an OS in a computer). Then of course there was the factory reset that occurred after unlocking and rooting. Neither of those changed anything. I have flashed a CWM recovery after rooting.
Are you saying, boot into recovery:
1. Factory Reset as
a. DO NOT wipe the factory data reset
b. Wipe cache and dalvik cache
c. Throw in a wipe of the batt stats too
then
d. Do the factory data reset and let all the caches rebuild as they will
or
2. Factory Reset as
a. Wipe factory data reset
b. Wipe cache and dalvik cache
c. Wipe batt stats
then
d. Backup and Restore>>Advance Restore>>Original ROM>>Restore system (not the data, cache or any of the other stuff there)
If number 2., then I wonder if that would put me back to OOB (Out Of Box), and if so, would I lose root, have T-mobile...yeah, I like T-mobile for some things - - blame it on Catherine Zeta-Jones time as spokesperson. As long as I have CWM recovery and have backed up from there I can't do anything that would ever leave the phone bricked; and, I can always unlock and root again if needed.
Either 1. or 2. I want to hold those in reserve because I do want to find out how I hide them. They act exactly as though they're disabled, i.e., The icon is gone, but I still get updates (Voice Recorder was updated just a week ago); however, they're only disabled in SenseUI. LauncherPro shows them all, and of course functionally...and remember once I run one of these apps, like Stocks, in LauncherPro, I can then switch to Sense and run it from my recent apps (long press on Home) or the pull down notifications area list of recents.
BTW, You were too gentlemanly to ask, but I clicked a couple, "Thanks" for you today. I was tired and forgot yesterday. We may not solve anything, but I'm enjoying/appreciate the conversaton/thread.
Even though I'm holding on those ideas above, let me know which/what you think of them please, in case I ultimately go that way. I did clear the data in Apps>>Manage for both of the HTC Senses and Rosie. I'll have to look at what's in Rosie though, maybe that holds the key!
As an aside, the first personal web page I made had, "Iron Man" as the background music!
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Firstly thanks for the thanks , I love helping people out! Its how I get my kicks
Secondly as long as you have made a nandroid back up in your recovery you are pretty much covered for everything. If I was you I would go for option 2 and wipe the lot. Then let the phone fully boot up and go through the set up. If a full wipe fixes the issue then we at least have a solid starting point to find out what's happened after that little test then restore your back up regardless.
Notes: the factory reset will not remove root or any extra system apps you have installed.
As long as you have the back up done you can always go back to it, allowing you don't destroy the bootloader. But that is highly unlikely as you are still s-on
Also an option to help this might be to use the app titanium back up to back up all your apps data separately, then back up your contacts, SMS ect, and then do a fresh install of a stock rom. Once that is done you could restore your back ups manually and go from there
I must say though this is a very odd case indeed, I'm pretty stumped as to how you have managed this without root
Tapped out from my sexy nexus 7
Re: [Q] There must be an answer to show apps
I have been looking into this more and it turns out sense hides some system app icons by default. Such as the camcorder, as we already have the camera app. Can you post a list of the apps to cross reference them?
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda premium
Sorry h_m_m, I didn't get an email notice of your reply on the 24th. Stocks and Voice Recorder are 2 definite ones. They don't show in Sense, but do in LP, and are discussed in the T-mobile HTC Wildfire S manual. I did notice in LP that there are some that I'm not sure I ever saw.
Re: your 2nd last post, I am 99% sure I did something with SDK, either in recovery or in the emulator...possibly debugging, that could be done without root!? I installed the SDK just short of one month after getting the phone. I really believe this was an article/tutorial by a programmer/developer that just walked me through. I felt OK using my computer skills in things like Visual Basic, SQL, and so on, but I was nervous because it was my 1st smartphone.
Anyway, in the last few days I've decompiled Rosie.apk to see if there was anything I could recognize or reason in the Manifest or Resources, but no clue there. I decompiled the Stock.apk from my WFS and one from a Hero to compare, again specific to the rosie/htc launcher, but nothing. I decompiled the htcSoundRecorder, no joy, Calculator (shows, but for comparison) - no joy. I have not done anything with the .odex files...maybe the tutorial I followed set something in those smali/java files, BUT, I don't see evidence on the computer I use for all this, of Eclipse or the JDK...only Java FX 2.1, but it's install coincides with the install of Google's Chrome browser, which uses it.
I believe this info is so obscure (except to ROM developers, I'm sure) because a lot of phones after Gingerbread got the menu option in the app drawer to hide icon shortcuts. So I'm going to keep this post in my favs and hope I get any email notifications if someone posts; and, search for articles now and then, but get back to living and leave this obsession behind...but not forgotten.
Hopefully I'll find something, come back and post it and even get a thanks for an interesting article and providing some obscure information!.
Oh, and I'll try option 2. from a couple posts ago before I take off flashing a bunch of ROMs, or after I delete stuff from this one and make a 2nd backup...like we rooted for! Clicked a couple more thanks too.
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MiCeltic said:
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I believe this info is so obscure (except to ROM developers, I'm sure) because a lot of phones after Gingerbread got the menu option in the app drawer to hide icon shortcuts. So I'm going to keep this post in my favs and hope I get any email notifications if someone posts; and, search for articles now and then, but get back to living and leave this obsession behind...but not forgotten.
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That's probably the best plan at this point sorry I couldn't help out more, but you have totally baffled me with this one just goes to show that the sdk can do far more than it lets on still, I hope one day you find that illusive tutorial and post it here
PS, gave you some thanks
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda premium
Hey h_m_m,
Thanks for the thanks!
I had time Sunday and I found some info and fixed them to show! I used search terms based on your statement that HTC hides some apps by default and found an article that referenced the, "/system/customize/mns/default.xml" file that contained a function, "applications_hide". So without getting into what I might do or might have done previously in the SDK, and since I was rooted, I just copied the file to my sdcard, attached to a computer and opened it in Notepad (needed to use the computer because it's well over 2000 lines in the file with no speed scrolling in es file explorer), changed (as one example):
<set name="plenty" max="7">
<item name="package">com.htc.android.Stock</item>
<item name="class">com.htc.android.Stock.StockWidget</item>
</set>
to
<!--<set name="plenty" max="7">
<item name="package">com.htc.android.Stock</item>
<item name="class">com.htc.android.Stock.StockWidget</item>
</set>-->
saved the file, mounted the file system using ES File Explorer and copied the file, then pasted it back in the, "/system/customize/mns/" folder. I commented the lines out so they wouldn't run and would still be there for history (instead of deleting the lines), and commented the code with a statement, <!--uncomment to hide the app's shortcut icon in the app drawer--> so that if I ever looked back I'd have info on it. I also did the same with the Sound Recorder, Voice Dialer, and WiFi (all at the same time as Stocks).
I did a factory reset and the shortcuts showed! This file, after all, sets the defaults. Well it didn't end there. I lost root. The su binary was still in it's folder(s) but Titanium Backup, ES File Explorer, and Super User wouldn't run...or rather wouldn't stop searching for root. It was like the su binary wasn't registered in the system; long story short, I re-flashed root.zip and all was right once more. The interesting thing is I had opened and abandoned this, "default.xml" file a couple times because it was so long and tedious to scroll through on the phone!
You can see a sample, "default.xml" for Gingerbread on code.google at http://code.google.com/p/warm-ginge...e/trunk/system/customize/MNS/default.xml?r=34 just stop the script if you get a pop-up. It's about 1/4 of the way down, or just do a find for, "applications_hide". There's only 2 things hid in that example file. ***Note that default is misspelled as defeault, but it seems to parse...it's in my phone's file that way too. I'd be cautious about opening that site on a phone browser, it seems to want to run on my computer when I open it.
What's the advantage of this? It could show apps or enable features that someone might like. This file sets all the defaults present OOB or after a factory reset, i.e., bookmarks, what I call sample app shortcuts and widgets on the screens, wallpaper, the 4 stocks in the stocks app, etc., etc., so those could be modified if desired as well. Proceed at own risk!
Clicking more thanks h_m_m! I don't know how long this would have taken without your feedback and input.
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That is great news man I'm glad you got sorted and posted your findings here that's really interesting, and good to know
Tapped out from my sexy nexus 7
I am super-curious if & how anyone here is using Link2SD successfully with CM11 (on the Epic 4G, specifically).
I've tried scouring these forums, and the Internet in general, to figure out the best way to get this to work...
But everything that I've tried, it all seems to be working great, only up until the first time that the phone reboots, then it all goes to hell.
I am wondering if there are any extra steps to follow, specifically for the Epic 4G, or any particular pitfalls known to avoid?
That's why I wanted to ask here, specifically to Epic 4G users...
If you are getting Link2SD to work well with CM11, then please chime in here, and can you explain how you got it all set up and working well?
(I feel like this is the one last thing that if I could conquer it, then I could really continue to get a lot of life out of this phone... as it stands, it seems too risky to put much faith in Link2SD, because if the phone happens to spontaneously reboot while I'm out running around, then I'm screwed because so many apps just disappear, and then it's a pain to re-download, re-install, and re-setup each of them...)
Thanks in advance for any help,
AS
I am using Link2SD on my Epic 4G with CM11 with some success. I just did a reboot, and as usual lost any icons that had links created in Link2SD, so I go to the app locker & re-add them to my home screen. This is typical of what happens on a reboot for me. One thing I did notice is that it takes a minute or so for the deleted app icons to show up in the app locker again, so if you are reinstalling them, it may be a matter of waiting for them to show back up. Also on occasion(not this time), Link2SD will prompt me about a problem with the links and then prompt me to reinitiate the partition or something to that affect. Once I do that and it reboots, the app icons are still gone, so I just re-add them. Anyway, I know its not a perfect solution, but with this device its better than running out of RAM. One last thing, needless to say, I only create links for enough apps to free up enough RAM to keep my Epic working properly.
I've finally got a system going that seems to work for me, and so I thought I'd share some things.
I'm on CM11 (as of today, cm-11-20140602-NIGHTLY-epicmtd.zip) and I'm using Link2SD.
HERE'S A "GOTCHA" THAT HAD ME PULLING MY HAIR OUT FOR AT LEAST A DAY OR TWO:
Link2SD was having problems mounting the 2nd partition - it would just say "Mount script cannot be created." or something like that (not a very helpful error message), no matter how many times I rebooted and tried again. What I *finally* figured out (somehow), was that this error was being caused by /system being completely full. When I went and deleted a few things from /system (such as goofy wallpapers or that 'Apollo' app that I never use), then Link2SD was able to successfully create the script, and then I'd reboot and could use the 2nd partition successfully.
It's still a little aggravating that any reboot of the phone will cause all of my "Linked" apps to disappear - I've played with this until I am blue in the face, and have resigned myself to accepting that this is just "how it is" (?) - but I'm now using Titanium Backup as my workaround.
STEPS I TAKE WHEN THE PHONE REBOOTS:
1) Go into Link2Sd and make sure the 2nd partition is usable, otherwise recreate mount scripts (deleting wallpapers/Apollo if necessary)
2) Under Link2SD's "More" menu, perform the following:
a) Clean up the 2nd partition
b) Clean up the dalvik-cache
c) Clear all app caches
3) Restore apps from Titanium Backup
a) starting with Facebook app (the biggest hog) and then immediately go and make Facebook a "Linked" app again
b) restore a few more apps (to internal/phone), then go and shuffle those over to "Linked" apps via Link2SD
c) (repeat step 'b' until all apps are restored and "Linked" via Link2SD
^ This is the only way I've been able to get this to work for me... but now I can put about as many apps on the phone as I'll ever possibly need, and I have to say everything is running pretty smoothly now - but if anyone can see a better way, or how to improve what I'm doing, then I'm all ears... please let me (us) know.
Thanks!
Apex launcher doesn't lose the icons. I can free about 66MB of system space by swapping the launcher, deleting CM wallpapers, live wallpaper and Google keyboard.
I verified link2SD plus was not working properly but free link2SD works as advertised. For me, just installing the plus version will break the working functions of the free version. The free version scripts, links and launcher icons survive reboots. The plus version continually lost mount and wouldn't properly clean up the second partition and was not copying the lib files and placing them in the second partition.
Edit: per the developer's request, after verifying free link2SD was setup and surviving reboots, I added plus link2SD and rebooted: OK so far. Next I linked a file with plus version; OK until reboot. The application was not found except in directories. Dalvik cache cleanup finds the dex link and file in second partition as unneeded files. Had to manually delete all the files and links for the broken application and reinstall it. Also had to uninstall plus link2SD to properly link again. Sent the results back to developer.
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Edit: 6/20/2014; link2SD 3.4.8 fixed the reboot issue for the link2SD Plus version for me. Sent email to developer to thank him for the fix.
See post #8.
Update on my last entry:
I emailed the link2SD developer and got a reply asking me to check the plus version again. In my reply back I linked him to this thread.
Another tip to add for nightly flashers that use link2SD and modify the zip prior to flashing: pull the mount script, 11link2SD, found at /system/etc/init.d and move it same location on zip before flashing. If retaining data, ie: dirty flashing; the mount securely retains your apps after flashing new nightly. Just checked with free version of link2SD: works.
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Arson Smith said:
I am super-curious if & how anyone here is using Link2SD successfully with CM11 (on the Epic 4G, specifically).
I've tried scouring these forums, and the Internet in general, to figure out the best way to get this to work...
But everything that I've tried, it all seems to be working great, only up until the first time that the phone reboots, then it all goes to hell.
I am wondering if there are any extra steps to follow, specifically for the Epic 4G, or any particular pitfalls known to avoid?
That's why I wanted to ask here, specifically to Epic 4G users...
If you are getting Link2SD to work well with CM11, then please chime in here, and can you explain how you got it all set up and working well?
(I feel like this is the one last thing that if I could conquer it, then I could really continue to get a lot of life out of this phone... as it stands, it seems too risky to put much faith in Link2SD, because if the phone happens to spontaneously reboot while I'm out running around, then I'm screwed because so many apps just disappear, and then it's a pain to re-download, re-install, and re-setup each of them...)
Thanks in advance for any help,
AS
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I'm using link2SD for all minus 16gb internal android device. Here is what i do in epic 4g, currently on CM11 20140523, use 20131209 gapps. I just write the part involved link2sd :
1. Buy atleast 16gb microSD and class 10 is a must, make 2nd partition (usually about 4gb - 6gb) as ext2 - ext4 (depends on the OS).
2. Device rooted, install titanium backup & root explorer 3.1.3 (make sure the root explorer working). Uninstall system apk (one of the launcher, whisper push, terminal emulator (I prefer use better terminal emulator, install as user app), CM filemanager, etc - still more that can be uninstalled for more space in system.
3. install link2SD, pick ext2 - ext4 (depends), dont restart yet. go to setting, uncheck everything then restart.
4. After back to launcher, open root explorer, go to root/data/, check app & dalvik-cache folder, press copy. Go to sdext2 folder, delete lost&found folder (usually there), and paste. So the app & dalvik-cache folder is there now (you could copy data/data folder too if you really want maximum extra space in internal, but in epic 4g i didn't copy data folder because it's enough space).
5. At the sdext2 folder, long press app folder, select "link to this folder", go to root/data/, press "create link" - "yes". Then go to sdext2 folder again, long press dalvik-cache folder, select "link to this folder", go to root/data/, press "create link" - "yes". Do the same if you copy data/data folder to sdext2 folder.
6. Reboot. Done. Then installing others app or restore with titanium backup.
I hope this is useful. Some Screenshot attached.
Hello
Thanks for that solution.
I`m searching for this solution since 1-2 weeks.
I had the same Problem on xcover 2 Link2SD.
Now it`s clear i have installt Link2SD and works perfect for just 3-4 days then i upgrade to Link2SD plus and then it happend like the Threat above.
I`m wondering that Lin2SD works perfectly on CM11 and if you go to Link2SD plus for money and this don`t work.
Free works perfectly and paid work not.
I have go back and everything its fine.
I hope the autor will fix the problem then i go back to plus.
Thank Thanks Thanks works fine!
regards marle.m
Good news! It appears the link2SD version 3.4.8 released today has a bug fix to survive reboots for linked apps when linking with link2SD plus version.
So far, I've only linked one app with plus version enabled and it survived one reboot. Then Ⓘ linked the data folder and rebooted again which also survived the reboot.
Looks like plus version is fully functional; I'll update if it fails some time later.
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Finally had a chance to sit down and mess with this...
Yeah! Success! Freeing up space in /system worked.
Next question...Will I have to remove the bloat prior to flashing from now on? ie no more CyanDelta easy flashing
Anyone have any Scripting-Fu to come up with an automated method of stripping out said bloat?
thx sno
Snoshrk said:
Finally had a chance to sit down and mess with this...
Yeah! Success! Freeing up space in /system worked.
Next question...Will I have to remove the bloat prior to flashing from now on? ie no more CyanDelta easy flashing
Anyone have any Scripting-Fu to come up with an automated method of stripping out said bloat?
thx sno
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I was thinking the gapps could be modified at the updater-script to remove some system bloat. Then remove some bloat from that as well. Most remove their own bloat choices so maybe a diy tut would be more useful?
I agree, the script would make the nightly flashing easier.
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Just realized that if using Link2SD Plus to multi link all folders of an app to sdext2 after a clean install is still broken, if using intended method. Apps linked this way are missing after reboot.
Working on a safer suggested method that focuses more on removing apps from Gapps but also removing some other system apps after flashing a nightly that requires no modification of the nightly zip on a computer. Have to focus on linking only a minimum amount of apps with free Link2SD considered less risky to move, like larger stand alone apps, not needed tools.
I've got a working script and method that works but the risks to be avoided need to be detailed along with the tut to script and tool your own modified Gapps that minimizes the flash to flashing the nightly as-is and then flashing a custom Gapps that includes preferred launcher and restore methods.
Removing CMWallpapers, Apollo music and Trebuchet launcher. Substituting blacked out Google play. Replacing removed apps with Apex beta test launcher for test group, blacked out Pandora (these will be installed at /data partition where they can be easily uninstalled or updated) I use my own borrowed wallpaper.
Along with the removed bloat from Gapps, this frees a bit more than 40 MB of system space.
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UPDATE: the latest version of Link2SD (3.5.2) has "fixed the bug that causes linked apps disappear on reboot when internal data is linked".
So... if you've also ponied up the buck or two for Link2SD Plus (as I have), then this finally works again like you'd always hoped it would.
I just loaded a bazillion apps back on the phone, and have been able to reboot multiple times without losing them.
The only time I "lost" them for a moment was after flashing to the latest CM11 nightly, but then doing the "Recreate mount scripts" and reboot brought them right back, with no other shenanigans necessary.
(Just wanted to let people know, because this is such a relief to me now....)
HURRAY!
OK I'm trying this again. Reboots are fine as long as I don't select quick or soft reboots; I lose mount, linked apps not installed.
Now need to try the clean install of nightly.
Snoshrk said:
Finally had a chance to sit down and mess with this...
Yeah! Success! Freeing up space in /system worked.
Next question...Will I have to remove the bloat prior to flashing from now on? ie no more CyanDelta easy flashing
Anyone have any Scripting-Fu to come up with an automated method of stripping out said bloat?
thx sno
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One possible solution:
more scripts to limit steps
Another possible solution (click link)