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wanting to have use desire as 16Gb USB drive but with NTFS?

Dudes, bit of a dilemma, if I format my 16Gb micro sd to NTFS and put it in my desire, the desire doesnt like it and it formats it as FAT32 .. which is ok, but I would very much like to tranfer files as big as 4Gb to the "removable drive" when using the desire as a USB drive.
Only trouble is you cant do that when using a FAT32 drive.
Is there a way of formatting the SD to NTFS but stil the handset will work with it.. Ie if its NTFS the desire will want to reformat it but if its FAT 32 the USB storage options only good for the odd small file.
Anyway around this so that the 16Gb SD card can be used on the desire (ie for apps and the like) but can also be used in the usb storage option to transfer large files of upto say 4Gb ?
bit of a catch 22

Why can't you copy 4GB files to the SD card? My External USB hard drive on my laptop is FAT32 and I copied the contents of my old external HD to it without issue (about 200GB). File system isn't the problem here
And no, you can't use NTFS on the Desire. Which is why it reformats the SD card once you boot Android

No!
You can copy more than 4GB to a fat32 filesystem because FAT32 partition can be larger than that.
But if one file is larger than 4GB then you can't copy it on FAT32, this is a limitation of FAT32 filesystem:
FAT 32 max file size= 4GB

this reason :
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080529220411AADT6Ut
you can move 200Gb worth of stuff but not a single file over 4Gb on a FAT32 file system (apparently)

you see my dilemma ? hehe most annoying

Biggest single file ive ever seen was about 3 GB. Never knew about the 4 GB limitation to Fat32 before. What files larger than 4 GB are there? 1080p files maybe?

.ISO Image files in this case
(work related not smut or pirated material before any suspicions are raised hehe)

I think u like to share Games with your Phone.
Why u do not extract the image files and install from the folder later?
After extracting u can copy the folder to sdcard ;-)

because once i extract the .ISO
the "Beach Hussys" .AVI file is still too large
... but seriously, there has been a few files ive had that are larger, I liked you idea tho x thanks. But there has got to be a way

Wasn't aware of the 4GB limit in FAT32, never had a file large enough to transport around!!

you can use gsplit or h-split!!! to split files on pc!!..

cheers dude that is good to know
but I really want the USB storage facility on the Desire to match having a USB key .. ie tranfer a 4Gb file the same as I would to my USB key (which is optimised and formatted to NTFS) Then I only have to take one around with me.
I have done this and it works (providing you have it plugged into USB as soon as you switch on with NTFS formatted SD in the phone) but then the sd cannot be used in that state to save apps to etc - so its one or the other it seems
ive used the sd formatted to ntfs and put it in my desire and plugged it into a usb straight away and it works - but if u dont do it straight away the handset says "SD card not formatted do you want to format it now" in which case it will format it to FAT32 or not let you use it as USB storage device at all.
hmmph !

i guess it shouldnt be hard as long as you compile the kernl with ntfs support or modprobe.

you can also split your files easily with winrar

What about exFAT? Can Desire read that format?

u can also use programs like winrar to split em in parts as well.. if its a movie u want to playback though, ;p its pretty impossible unless u split it urself with a movie editor..which aint a hard task..

Just use winrar archive the file to multiple archives, copy them over and unpack it
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if you have a big sdcard and you transfer a lot of movies or files bigger than 4gb why don't you make 2 partitions on your sdcard....on FAT32 with the size you want on the desire and one NTFS for your data!!! i don't think it would cause any trouble. i might be mistaken though i never tried it. but for usbs works wonders

What about use partitions? Let's say 4GB FAT32 and 12GB NTFS... will it work?
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I think it should work, but the Desire wouldn't read the NTFS partition, you could only use it for USB file transfer.

[Q] Can't transfer over 4GB file?

Just got mine Sandisk SDXC 64GB card and it come with exFat. I can transfer large file over 4GB with SDCard adapter plugged in computer, but can't with phone connected to computer and why is it that way?
Anyone have same problem and transfer larger file then 4GB doesn't work while connect with the phone?

Have not got a note 2 yet, but I believe it has got to do with the file format of your SDCARD. FAT32 only accepts max 4GB per file.

Silvina said:
Have not got a note 2 yet, but I believe it has got to do with the file format of your SDCARD. FAT32 only accepts max 4GB per file.
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Wish its that simple.
Read again what i wrote: "I can transfer large file over 4GB with SDCard adapter plugged in computer, but can't with phone connected to computer "
If the card is in fat32 and it wont transfer files larger then 4GB with the SD Card adapter, right?
Im not alone with this problem, alot others have same problem and no one know the reason. Why it cant larger files when plug in the phone with USB cable, but it works over Wifi and some apps. But with much slower speed if using wifi.

Format the card in a Win 7 pc as exfat, i believe the note will read exfat and that handles files of over 4gb. Other than that you need to root and use an NTFS mount app.

dt33 said:
Wish its that simple.
Read again what i wrote: "I can transfer large file over 4GB with SDCard adapter plugged in computer, but can't with phone connected to computer "
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Perhaps it's some sort of MTP limitation then.
Wouldn't the fastest way be to use a card reader?
- Frank

I can confirm exactly same observation on my new Note 2. I am using SanDisk UHS-1 64GB and Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit. The card is formatted to exFAT (confirmed in Windows) and I can copy 8GB file to it, using cheap SD card <--> USB adapter. When I put the card into Note 2 and connect the phone to Windows, it will pop up as GT-7100 with "Card" (external SD card) and "Phone" (internal storage).
Once I try to copy the same file to "Card" (using Windows Explorer), the system first asks if I am sure (because the format may not be supported by phone) and then quits with error message saying the file size is not supported (and nothing is written to the "Card" filesystem).
It seems like some limitation on MTP (or whatever it is), but I am confused, because from other threads I understood, there should not be any limitation on MTP regarding the file size.
It seems the solution could be direct access to the card via USB mass storage protocol, but it is unfortunately not available too.
Anyone knows if it is just a glitch, or new "feature" in JB?

how do i know which sd card do i have?

i want to use this app:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889550 but i see it dosent work on exfat and i dont know how to know if i have exfat or fat32 please help ..

I'm using directory bind (latest version) on exfat and it works fine for me. You can just put the card in your computer and go to its propertes, it will tell you which format it is on.
64GB micro sd cards usually come with exfat format out of the box. 32GB usually FAT32

i think most sdcards are fat32 by default--may be wrong--but you can research phone specs or Google sdcard specs for n2.
Not aware any card comes with exfat--if you are original owner it should be fat32
you can also use partition programs like gparted or sdformatter that should list the sdcard and say how it is formatted--
either way backup sdcard first and even phone

MohJee said:
I'm using directory bind (latest version) on exfat and it works fine for me. You can just put the card in your computer and go to its propertes, it will tell you which format it is on.
64GB micro sd cards usually come with exfat format out of the box. 32GB usually FAT32
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rugmankc said:
i think most sdcards are fat32 by default--may be wrong--but you can research phone specs or Google sdcard specs for n2.
Not aware any card comes with exfat--if you are original owner it should be fat32
you can also use partition programs like gparted or sdformatter that should list the sdcard and say how it is formatted--
either way backup sdcard first and even phone
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i press propoties on the n7100 when i connect the phone to the computer but not any intresting information

MohJee,
makes sense that some 64gb cards would come exfat--need to pay attn to that when I get phone

64GB SDXC card won't mount

I got a sandisk 64GB card for my spring galaxy s3 but whenever I plug it into my phone it immediately says "SD card is safe to remove" and does not mount it. I've mounted it manually but it immediately unmounts and give the message again. I tried reformatting the card as exfat with my laptop and it recognizes the SD card fine and formatted fine, but I still had the same problem when I plugged it back in to my phone. Does anyone have any idea how to fix this?
I'm running FreeGS3 3.0 with ktoonsez' kernel, in case that matters.

...You can't use exfat / extremely rare usage. Format the sdcard as fat32 and you'll be fine.

I had the same issue with my tab 2 10.1 and he is correct....format to fat32 in your pc and you should be good to go
Sent from my rooted Galaxy S3 on FreeGS3

Got this same error, said SD card was damaged ... format to FAT32 using GUI format, here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36273669&postcount=18. FAT32 will work with both TW and AOSP ROMs (just with a 4GB file size limit)

Have you ever found a way to get past the 4GB file limit yet?
nimaim said:
Got this same error, said SD card was damaged ... format to FAT32 using GUI format, here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36273669&postcount=18. FAT32 will work with both TW and AOSP ROMs (just with a 4GB file size limit)
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mycall0 said:
Have you ever found a way to get past the 4GB file limit yet?
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Format to NTFS

[Q] Recording Video over 4gb

Stock OS
I'm recording video files but the problem is once I hit the 4gb limit of the SD Card, the video quits.
Couple of friends explained this is a FAT32 limit, so we tried NTFS and the stock OS doesnt recognize the card at all. Then we tried EXTFAT and while this allows files to be copied to the SD card over 4gb, the video recorder still craps out on me at 4gbs.
Anyone have any advice for how to get around this magical 4gb limit?

4GB limit is true about the FAT32 with individual file sizes. I believe if you have phone format your SD card, it'll be NTFS. Just need to change the camera to save to the SD card.

lovekeiiy said:
4GB limit is true about the FAT32 with individual file sizes. I believe if you have phone format your SD card, it'll be NTFS. Just need to change the camera to save to the SD card.
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It does not format the card NTFS, and I still have the 4gb limit. I'm going to guess that even with extfat, the limit is the video recorder.
Even formatted in NTFS via a computer, it will not go over 4gb.