In Canada, I am unable to get my Rogers LG-E971 to connect to Bell's LTE network. Talked with Bell technical support and they said that the phone is not reporting LTE capability. I even messed around in the service menu (use 971 instead of 973 or 970 in the code) and enabled the bands that bell uses, still no go. I can't even return the phone now, because I had to unlock it to try it on Bell.
Bell sells the LG-E973. I bought the Rogers because Bell will not sell new phones without selling/renewing a plan along with the phone.
So, to sum up, don't go buying a Rogers Optimus G hoping to get LTE to work on Bell (or Telus, I assume) after unlocking. You'll be out your $700 because shops won't accept the return if the phone has been unlocked.
Edit: Forgot to say, I get 4G HSPA speeds (pulling 15Mbps down on speedtest compared to 30Mbps down on a friend's iPhone 5 LTE connection) on Bell.
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i got the g for rogers aswell.. are you saying that rogers doesnt provided lte?
my signal says 4g... thought that meant LTE??
and your right.. i get 14mb down.. is supposed to be 30???
cpus456 said:
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i got the g for rogers aswell.. are you saying that rogers doesnt provided lte?
my signal says 4g... thought that meant LTE??
and your right.. i get 14mb down.. is supposed to be 30???
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from speedtest videos, it's supposed to have an lte icon when it's on lte. you can check which network it's on by checking settings->about phone->status (or something along those lines, i don't have the phone in front of me at the moment).
You should be able to get LTE on rogers, if you're not you need to check your coverage at http://www.rogers.com/web/content/w...nsumer_Wireless_Eng-_-Network_0909-_-coverage
My personal issue is just that it's not compatible with Bell LTE (as far as I can tell).
4G is HSPA+ not LTE. If you're on Rogers and not getting LTE with the Rogers phone make sure you live in an area with LTE coverage and that you have not accidentally disabled it in the mobile network settings.
As for the Rogers version not working with Bell LTE, maybe once the bootloader is unlocked it will be possible to flash the Bell radio and have it work?
I think this is because the rogers optimus g's LTE runs on the 2600mhz band only, as far as i know, so far, it is the ONLY phone in the country that runs on the 2600 band currently. The upside is that you practically get your own private "highway" and you should see significant speed advantages as long as you are connected to roger's network. The downside is that it not very compatible with other networks.
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I think this is because the rogers optimus g's LTE runs on the 2600mhz band only, as far as i know, so far, it is the ONLY phone in the country that runs on the 2600 band currently. The upside is that you practically get your own private "highway" and you should see significant speed advantages as long as you are connected to roger's network. The downside is that it not very compatible with other networks.
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I read this, but most of the articles I'd read said that the 2600MHz band was supposed to be a joint rollout between Rogers and Bell. Sigh.
The possibility of flashing the radio is still pretty far off unfortunately. This phone's going on craigslist; I'll just have to wait till people actually have the Bell one in stock to get my new Optimus.
just called rogers
i had the sim from my iphone4 installed.. thats why it was saying 4g
went to put the lte one in that they sent me and its too big!! they sent me the full size one ...grrrrr!!
In korean version of the G, HSPA+ shows as 3G and LTE as 4G.
I believe ive never seen the LTE icon on the G.
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In korean version of the G, HSPA+ shows as 3G and LTE as 4G.
I believe ive never seen the LTE icon on the G.
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i have a rogers 971 OG in winipeg aka no lte, shows as 4g therefore probably hspa+ im guessing lte might have a lte icon???
cant really test from where im at
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i have a rogers 971 OG in winipeg aka no lte, shows as 4g therefore probably hspa+ im guessing lte might have a lte icon???
cant really test from where im at
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I'm in toronto and mine has an LTE icon.
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Here the korean screen.
But it obviously depends on the provider/phone version.
The LTE icon probably shown only for providers which dont support the full version of LTE, just the internet/data.
Btw HSPA+ arent related to the 4G, so basically its a cheating and should be sued
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I read this, but most of the articles I'd read said that the 2600MHz band was supposed to be a joint rollout between Rogers and Bell. Sigh.
The possibility of flashing the radio is still pretty far off unfortunately. This phone's going on craigslist; I'll just have to wait till people actually have the Bell one in stock to get my new Optimus.
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I dont think the possibility of flashing a different radio is as far off as you think
Hi all-
I have my E970 working on Rogers, and yes - that's one of the reason I've stuck to the AT&T phone. I suspected Rogers would f*** the consumer somehow as usual. Then again, I still have no Wifi hotspot capability until a ROM update removes AT&T's block.. :silly:
How exactly does one access the service menu to enable or disable various frequencies? I had asked about changing the baseband radio support because the AT&T 700mhz support is useless here in Canada, as the spectrum auction hasn't even run yet. It'll be 18 months or more before a provider has any support for it. But I could use 2600mhz support, or 1800 or 2100mhz support for roaming on vacations.
The band all GSM North American Optimus G models should have in common is the AWS band - 1700up/2100down. The E970 also has 700mhz, the Rogers E971 2600mhz and Telus/Bell E973s ??? (most websites claim 1800mhz, but this seems odd since neither actually use this frequency for LTE).
On the E970, HSPA+ service shows a 4G icon.
On LTE service it shows 4G LTE, even though the speeds are nothing alike. HSPA+ Here in Alberta is typically 1-4Mbit, the LTE speeds so far are nothing to write home about either, averaging about half the claims I see from Rogers users in Ontario or BC - typically 15-30Mbit downstream and 8-12Mbit upstream in various parts of the city.
Here's my Speedtest.net samples from Rogers LTE over the weekend, check the attached screenshot. The speeds seem all over the map, but are all in the same areas of the city, downtown and northside.
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Hi all-
I have my E970 working on Rogers, and yes - that's one of the reason I've stuck to the AT&T phone. I suspected Rogers would f*** the consumer somehow as usual. Then again, I still have no Wifi hotspot capability until a ROM update removes AT&T's block.. :silly:
How exactly does one access the service menu to enable or disable various frequencies? I had asked about changing the baseband radio support because the AT&T 700mhz support is useless here in Canada, as the spectrum auction hasn't even run yet. It'll be 18 months or more before a provider has any support for it. But I could use 2600mhz support, or 1800 or 2100mhz support for roaming on vacations.
The band all GSM North American Optimus G models should have in common is the AWS band - 1700up/2100down. The E970 also has 700mhz, the Rogers E971 2600mhz and Telus/Bell E973s ??? (most websites claim 1800mhz, but this seems odd since neither actually use this frequency for LTE).
On the E970, HSPA+ service shows a 4G icon.
On LTE service it shows 4G LTE, even though the speeds are nothing alike. HSPA+ Here in Alberta is typically 1-4Mbit, the LTE speeds so far are nothing to write home about either, averaging about half the claims I see from Rogers users in Ontario or BC - typically 15-30Mbit downstream and 8-12Mbit upstream in various parts of the city.
Here's my Speedtest.net samples from Rogers LTE over the weekend, check the attached screenshot. The speeds seem all over the map, but are all in the same areas of the city, downtown and northside.
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Service menu can be accessed by typing 3845#*970# into the dialer, where you replace 970 with the model number of the phone (Bell is 973, Rogers is 971). From there, ->LTE-Only->Modem Settings->LTE Band Selection. Checking the items seems to apply the settings immediately.
If you're getting 30Mbps then that's pretty good, here in Vancouver Rogers seems to top out around 50Mbps with good weather and everything. If you ever get more than half the claimed speeds you're probably standing in a testing lab.
Haze08, I've seen that the American models are unlocked now, but they still have to do the work on the Canadian ones, then someone would still have to have the inclination to figure out the differences between Bell and Rogers models, then figure out a safe way to flash the baseband, then test if it's safe to modify the baseband of one model to make LTE work on a different network. That assumes that it's possible; it could be a hardware issue that can't be fixed by flashing the radio. I'm not even convinced there'd be a demand for figuring out how to make the Rogers model work on Bell, seeing as how the Bell model is starting to trickle in stock. All these factors add up to me not holding my breath that someday the Rogers model will be able to connect to Bell's LTE network.
I'm just hoping to get the bootloader unlock and stock 4.2 with AWS 2600 LTE support for the Rogers E971. I like this phone and really don't want the hassle of changing it for an N4. This phone phone is simply better in every other way.
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In Canada, I am unable to get my Rogers LG-E971 to connect to Bell's LTE network. Talked with Bell technical support and they said that the phone is not reporting LTE capability. I even messed around in the service menu (use 971 instead of 973 or 970 in the code) and enabled the bands that bell uses, still no go. I can't even return the phone now, because I had to unlock it to try it on Bell.
Bell sells the LG-E973. I bought the Rogers because Bell will not sell new phones without selling/renewing a plan along with the phone.
So, to sum up, don't go buying a Rogers Optimus G hoping to get LTE to work on Bell (or Telus, I assume) after unlocking. You'll be out your $700 because shops won't accept the return if the phone has been unlocked.
Edit: Forgot to say, I get 4G HSPA speeds (pulling 15Mbps down on speedtest compared to 30Mbps down on a friend's iPhone 5 LTE connection) on Bell.
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How old is your Bell SIM? When I upgraded to an LTE device on Telus I needed the new SIM card. Without it, your device likely will not report LTE capabilities to Bell. If you look at the Galaxy S3, the SGH-i747 is identical for Bell, Telus and Rogers, and all support LTE and there are no issues bringing unlocked phones between the 3 carriers, so it doesn't make sense that the Optimus G itself would behave like this.
The sim card I have is a Bell LTE microsim, and it's getting LTE on my new LG-E973.
To clarify:
Rogers LTE microsim + LG-E971 unlocked = Rogers LTE connection
Bell LTE microsim + LG-E971 unlocked = NO Bell LTE connection
Bell LTE microsim + LG-E973 bought from Bell = Bell LTE connection
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The sim card I have is a Bell LTE microsim, and it's getting LTE on my new LG-E973.
To clarify:
Rogers LTE microsim + LG-E971 unlocked = Rogers LTE connection
Bell LTE microsim + LG-E971 unlocked = NO Bell LTE connection
Bell LTE microsim + LG-E973 bought from Bell = Bell LTE connection
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hey
do you know if the E973 (bell) would work on rogers LTE?
Unfortunately I would have to pay to get the E973 unlocked and buy another rogers sim (I sold mine already), so I don't have an answer for you. Sorry.
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hey
do you know if the E973 (bell) would work on rogers LTE?
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Unfortunately I would have to pay to get the E973 unlocked and buy another rogers sim (I sold mine already), so I don't have an answer for you. Sorry.
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no worries, thanks for posting your other results!
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I just received my Note 2 it is on Rogers.
I have unlocked it but it is not yet rooted.
I have just traveled to US and am using my T-mobile SIM card and no matter what settings I try I can't get anything other than EDGE data even though I am paying for 4g.
I was under the impression that All models of the note 2 In North America (not including Verizon) were identical and would if unlocked work on all networks equally.
Seems this is not the case. The TMobile site lists different choice for the LTE bands than Rogers. Yet the Telus branded model on their website shows the same version of LTE as on Tmobile.
Are the phones actually different? Or is it the firmware of the Radio inside such that if I rooted and flashed the Tmobile modem it would then allow me to use the faster speed data network on my unlocked Rogers phone but on the T-mobile network?
No. Our model doesn't support the frequency that T-Mobile uses for 3G
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Is it possible to flash the modem for Tmobile on ours and make it work?
I was under the impression all the phones in Canada were identical and yet the Telus one seems to have different LTE frequencies so maybe it just needs to be enabled as hardware not firmware supports it
Canadoc said:
Is it possible to flash the modem for Tmobile on ours and make it work?
I was under the impression all the phones in Canada were identical and yet the Telus one seems to have different LTE frequencies so maybe it just needs to be enabled as hardware not firmware supports it
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No the hardware doesn't support it so a different modem wouldn't work. Our phones (Bell, Telus, Rogers) support LTE on 1700/2100, but not HSPA+, so until T-Mobile launches their LTE network you'll be on edge only
Edit: There are some areas where they are reforming their 1900 spectrum to HSPA+, so you could only connect in an area where they have done that already
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No the hardware doesn't support it so a different modem wouldn't work. Our phones (Bell, Telus, Rogers) support LTE on 1700/2100, but not HSPA+, so until T-Mobile launches their LTE network you'll be on edge only
Edit: There are some areas where they are reforming their 1900 spectrum to HSPA+, so you could only connect in an area where they have done that already
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So I guess for now I will stay on EDGE hopefully LTE goes live soon enough. The Rogers phone will work on their LTE frequencies right?
I will be finishing my contract with VZ in about 2 months and I have seriously been considering getting a R800at (AT&T Xperia PLAY) and unlocking the bootloader to also remove the simlock. So that I can use it on T-Mobile here where I live. VZ has sucky service in my area and I hate them anyways.
My question is are there anyone people here using the AT&T 4G (I know its not 4G but 3.5G Xperia PLAY) on T-Mobile and with TMo converting their 2G to AT&T 3G compatibility are you able to use the 3G service on your PLAYs?
I know the service coverage is all subjective to where you live, just curious if anyone is doing this and what their feedback / thoughts are on it.
Thank you in advance
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I will be finishing my contract with VZ in about 2 months and I have seriously been considering getting a R800at (AT&T Xperia PLAY) and unlocking the bootloader to also remove the simlock. So that I can use it on T-Mobile here where I live. VZ has sucky service in my area and I hate them anyways.
My question is are there anyone people here using the AT&T 4G (I know its not 4G but 3.5G Xperia PLAY) on T-Mobile and with TMo converting their 2G to AT&T 3G compatibility are you able to use the 3G service on your PLAYs?
I know the service coverage is all subjective to where you live, just curious if anyone is doing this and what their feedback / thoughts are on it.
Thank you in advance
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I have the R800a on T-mobile USA and im stuck on Edge which is 2g. If you want 4G or 3.5G for your play your stuck with At&t otherwise if you go to t-mobile usa your stuck with 2g on your R800at the same boat as me.
I get 4g fine with an att sim on straight talk but sadly only 2g with t mobile sim. Suppose it doesn't matter to me though since in using r800i firmware. Stuck on 3g
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I get 4g fine with an att sim on straight talk but sadly only 2g with t mobile sim. Suppose it doesn't matter to me though since in using r800i firmware. Stuck on 3g
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Straight supports at&t frequences and towers.
ozzmanj1 said:
I will be finishing my contract with VZ in about 2 months and I have seriously been considering getting a R800at (AT&T Xperia PLAY) and unlocking the bootloader to also remove the simlock. So that I can use it on T-Mobile here where I live. VZ has sucky service in my area and I hate them anyways.
My question is are there anyone people here using the AT&T 4G (I know its not 4G but 3.5G Xperia PLAY) on T-Mobile and with TMo converting their 2G to AT&T 3G compatibility are you able to use the 3G service on your PLAYs?
I know the service coverage is all subjective to where you live, just curious if anyone is doing this and what their feedback / thoughts are on it.
Thank you in advance
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Have you considered using your 800X on another CDMA network instead of buying an 800AT?
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Have you considered using your 800X on another CDMA network instead of buying an 800AT?
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No. Most of my family has switched to tmobile. That and I can get an awesome rate as I have a relative who can hook us up n
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No. Most of my family has switched to tmobile. That and I can get an awesome rate as I have a relative who can hook us up n
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An awesome rate stuck on 2G doesn't sound worth it to me.
I would look into: Sprint, Boost Mobile, Metro PCS.
(Not sure if Virgin Mobile and Straight Talk are CDMA tho)
There's a list of current locations where T-Mobile support the 1900MHz band, you'll have to check it to make sure you're in one of those area, and to be on the safe side, not on the edge but within the city zone. http://www.androidcentral.com/tags/t-mobile
I live in Miami which is one of the supported location so I did exactly that. I cancelled my LG Nexus 4 preorder since it's taking a long time to ship and bought an R800i, talk about vast gap in performance. I will report on it once it get here, but I'm already certain it'll work in my area since already tested it on other devices.
Not sure if it's possible to unlock the R800at through Sony website method though.
I'm using the $30 100min and 5gb T-Mobile plan, usually keep an extra $10 deposited which give an extra 100min, and using the Vonage app to make free outgoing VoIP call.
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*Edit Note: R800i do not work on ATT nor T-Mobile 3G!
eksasol said:
There's a list of current locations where T-Mobile support the 1900MHz band, you'll have to check it to make sure you're in one of those area, and to be on the safe side, not on the edge but within the city zone. http://www.androidcentral.com/tags/t-mobile
I live in Miami which is one of the supported location so I did exactly that. I cancelled my LG Nexus 4 preorder since it's taking a long time to ship and bought an R800i, talk about vast gap in performance. I will report on it once it get here, but I'm already certain it'll work in my area since already tested it on other devices.
Not sure if it's possible to unlock the R800at through Sony website method though.
I'm using the $30 100min and 5gb T-Mobile plan, usually keep an extra $10 deposited which give an extra 100min, and using the Vonage app to make free outgoing VoIP call.
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My brother works for HP, but knows the Utah state Region Director. (Southern ID, and UT) With the deal I would be able to get a plan with 5 lines, 3 with 500 minutes and up to 5gb of data on each, then 200 minutes on the last two phones with only 200mb of data. As it would only be my wife and I, we would be able to set it up for about $45 for both phones with the 500 each, and 5gb of data for about $50-55 a month. Currently we are paying $120 a month for VZ and its service blows.
Yes, currently where I live there is no converted 2G from T-Mobile but eventually it will roll out. I am pretty sure I can live with 2G until its converted, couldnt be any slower then VZ where I live (50-70kbps)
Did some digging, this is T-Mobile USA's spectrum chart for 2G
850 MHz/1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSPA 2G/3G
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ 3G/4G
AT&T Spectrum
Frequencies used on the AT&T Network
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
850 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
I realize that T-Mobile service is again, subjective, but I really do love this phone and despite borrowing a S3 for about a week, and a couple other phones, I really just dont have a strong desire to jump to another phone. I really enjoy this phone for what it was designed, gaming. And each time i use a a phone to play touchscreen gaming I want to scream.
On a side note, the Region Director did mention that he estimate sometime between second to 3rd quarter of next year where I live we should go live on the 2G conversion.
Actually 2G atleast on T-Mobile is more like average of 20-30kbps, at least from my experience. You will be able to use email and xda app, and slow webbrowsing, and Google Maps. Downloading apps from the Play Store is out of the question unless its small or you want to wait long.
Edit Note: Actually the speed is faster at 80-100kbps after speedtest.
I was considering rebuying the unlocked version of the S3 as well because of this 1900mhz support, but then there is a thread in its forum with tons of people S3 having hardware death.
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Actually 2G atleast on T-Mobile is more like average of 20-30kbps, at least from my experience. You will be able to use email and xda app, and slow webbrowsing, and Google Maps. Downloading apps from the Play Store is out of the question unless its small or you want to wait long.
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As I am always around wifi, at home and or at work (I work about 60 hours a week) I dont generally download from the PLAY store via 3G. And its not VZ's terribly slow data that driving me nuts its their service, I have had so many dropped calls, my wife too (Droid X)
But I guess what I am asking is, when the conversion is completed in my area, would I then be able to have 3G on this device? I guess we wont know for sure until it happens, but again T-Mobile did start converting it to give unlocked iphones on their service 3G.... and to free up spectrum for the planned rollout of their own LTE network.
I will let you know when I get my R800i in a few days, but I'm pretty certain of it. Many people have been utilizing this such as ATT iPhone owners and T-Mobile 3G worked on my Samsung Captivate.
Edit Note: Found out the R800i do not work with ATT nor T-Mobile 3G, but an unlocked R800at does.
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I will let you know when I get my R800i in a few days, buy I'm pretty certain of it. Many people have been utilizing this such as ATT iPhone owners and T-Mobile 3G worked on my Samsung Captivate.
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You mention R800i. While I am looking at the R800at. Should I be looking into the R800i rather then the R800at for T-Mobile in the USA?
Also any feedback you can provide when you get your R800i would be appreciated.
Here is whats listed as the bands for the R800i:
Band
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 (Quadband)
So guessing that with those bands in mind I should be looking into the R800i if I want to utilize T-Mobile USA's 3G network, and perhaps even maybe their 3.5...?
Actually the bands you listed are GSM bands, GSM are 2G.
The 3G bands for ATT and on the R800at are: 850/1900/2100MHz. Either having 850 and/or 1900 + 2100 support will get you 3G.
For T-Mobile, 3G bands are: 1700/2100 (known as AWS or UMTS). Some area have support for 1900 like we discussed. This is where the interlap come in and where unlocked phones that support 1900/2100 bands can get 3G on both T-Mobile and ATT.
There are different levels of 3G, the coverage area might be different. Lowest level usually is UMTS, have the widest coverage and use less battery, but slowest speed, I usually get an average of 3Mbps. Then there is HSPA and HSPA+, which have a large range of speed depending on the version (check Wikipedia). T-Mobile have Dual Cell HSPA which have theoretical capability of 42Mbps, but realistically you will get half of that, and not all devices support it, I get up to 26Mbps with this, outdoor and close to the cell tower of course. From experience, I find T-Mobile obviously have faster 3G speed, but sometimes poorer building penetration.
The Play support: HSDPA 7.2Mbps and HSUPA 5.76Mbps, so that's the max speed this device will be getting on 3G.
You can check the device specs on gsmarena.com for bands support, but they are not always accurate so beware.
This is also why I recommend Nexus phones, because the last two Nexus are pentaband 3G devices, which mean they can get 3G on every GSM carrier in the world. There are few pentaband devices and fewer good pentaband phones.
Well I got my R800i, but disappointingly it doesn't get 3G with T-Mobile, but I checked the spec again and it seem the R800i only support the HSDPA 900 / 2100 bands, I didn't realize this sooner since all other international phones I have bought do support the 1900 band so I just assumed.
But the AT&T version do support the 1900 / 2100 bands, so I'm still confident if you buy that version and figure out how to unlock it, you will be able to get 3G on T-Mobile in the 1900MHz supported areas.
I did a speedtest of the 2G speed and I get around 80-100kbps download speed. So about 10kilobytes per second.
Side note, on the dialer, you can dial: *#*#4636#*#* which will bring you to a menu where you can set which band the phone will use, although it is labeled by region (you'll have to press the Menu button to bring up the option).
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Well I got my R800i, but disappointingly it doesn't get 3G with T-Mobile, but I checked the spec again and it seem the R800i only support the HSDPA 900 / 2100 bands, I didn't realized this sooner since all other international phones I have bought do support the 1900 bands so I just assumed.
But the ATT version do support the 1900 / 2100 band, so I am still confident if you buy that version and figure out how to unlock it, you will be able to get 3G on T-Mobile in the 1900MHz supported areas.
I did a speedtest of the 2G speed and I get around 80-100kbps download speed. So about 10kilobytes per second.
Side note, on the dialer, you can dial: *#*#4636#*#* which will bring you to a menu where you can set which band the phone will use, although it is labeled by region.
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Thank you for the info and thank you for clarifying.
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So after that I went on ebay looking for an unlocked R800at. Found one, not great price, but it was at a pawn shop 1.5miles from my house so I picked it up.
Here are the results: (see attached images).
Somethings I found:
-You have to search for the network operators and select specifically the 3G T-Mobile network. Might need to manually enter the APN for data/mms to work.
-With stock AT&T rom, I only seem to see the phone switching between E (2G) and H+. Since HSPA+ coverage isn't as abundant and you might see the signal deteriorate quickly depending on your location coverage. Edit: I see the 3G and H logo with R800i rom, may be it was just cosmetic?
-With stock AT&T rom, I can't seem to log into Google's Market at all regardless with Data or WiFi while using the T-Mobile sim. Maybe a limitation ATT specifically put in? But this is no problem after flashing another rom.
-As expected, Bootloader Status: Not_Rootable. So I can not get into fastboot mode meaning it require the test point method to unlock the bootloader. Still, I can easily flash the R800i ftf which will allow the NXT rom to be bootable (the ftf that work for me is the R800i_4.0.2.A.0.58_Enhanced). Then root it using "SuperOneClick", had to use x-Parts's CWM installer version 5 to correctly install cwm.
Still will have to fiddle with it more to see what else I can find. As for the R800i I will have to suck up the 15% restocking fee.
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I have the R800a on T-mobile USA and im stuck on Edge which is 2g. If you want 4G or 3.5G for your play your stuck with At&t otherwise if you go to t-mobile usa your stuck with 2g on your R800at the same boat as me.
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How did you unlock it for use with t-mobile? I searched the forums to no avail. The only way I can find is to use a code you have to buy or you have to request through at&t and I don't have at&t so they won't provide me with one.
I can find ways to unlock the bootloader... is that the same thing?
Sorry I'm not familiar with sony ericsson
blu422 said:
How did you unlock it for use with t-mobile? I searched the forums to no avail. The only way I can find is to use a code you have to buy or you have to request through at&t and I don't have at&t so they won't provide me with one.
I can find ways to unlock the bootloader... is that the same thing?
Sorry I'm not familiar with sony ericsson
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With the code your thinking of the sim unlock. Which you can get from AT&T, if you want the bootloader unlocked you need to get in touch with Alejandrissimo to unlock it... its a free service he offers.
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Hey guys! I brought my international GT-N7105 Note II LTE model from Asia and bought that unlimited cheap 30 dollar plan. I checked the towers and my area does have those refarmed 1900MHz towers from their twitter. Anyhow, first i just thought it was my house and I have drove from pasadena-los angeles - Irvine - Orange County and have yet to see ANY 3G/H/H+ signals! Always stuck on the E (2G). First I thought it was the SIM problem so I put that SIM to an iPHONE4 and guess what?! There is the T-Mobile 3G right on that upper left hand corner and speeds are decent. Anywhere from 1.5mbps-6mbps. I'm sure it can go higher but looking at that dinky screen is already enough for my eyes! Is there some specific settings I should be doing? Somehow it's NOT locking to the 3G towers from my N7105. I am planning to get Straight Talk's 45 dollar deal at Walmart and choose the ATT since it's got better coverage from what I hear. Thanks for the help in advance and Happy Holidays everybody!!!
I don't think the 7105 has 1900 band, I have 7100 and I get 3G coverage.
5800xm_user said:
I don't think the 7105 has 1900 band, I have 7100 and I get 3G coverage.
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Thanks for the reply but according to this: http://www.smartone.com/jsp/phone/english/detail_v12.jsp?id=2553
It should have 1900MHz just like the N7100 except there's LTE which won't work. There's absolutely no excuse for it NOT to have 3G! This stinks and is frustrating!
I see that it has 1900 band but under GSM, when looking at 3G bands it has HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100 - N7105 vs N7100 having HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
Dont know if it makes any difference but thats why I steered away from the LTE version.
Try this go into service mode: *#197328640# Debug screen Phone Control Network Control & Band Selection. Check if you can enable or see if you have the 1900 band under WCDMA. Might have to go under Combi Bands and select the desired bands.
Just flowing up if it worked out for u or not?
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Bumping this since the op didn't respond. I am having the same trouble and I attempted the fix you provided and found that my N7105 lacks the "combi bands"
I mistakenly purchased this phone for pre-paid here in America (should have gotten the n7100) and it seems that Straight Talk doesn't have AT&T cards anymore and I'm stuck on T-Mobile's EDGE service
I have the verizon model and use it with tmobile
So the last two weeks have been the most frustratying and nerve racking weeks ever as I have tried to get tmobile service to work well with the verizon model i have. And although I am definately still irritated, i have to say that I do get 3G and HSDPA on mine, just not anywhere near my house. This has driven me crazy and until today I assumed it was my phone and the lack of certain bands howev er after purchasing a Tmobile 4G hotspot and activating it on a new 300mb plan just to see how well it works, I have found that it was never my phone that sucked at my hopuse, its Tmobiles service that sucks!. BUT... to get the best consistant coverage with the Tmobile sim in my Verizon model I did have to experiment with the APNs quite a bit, and I also upgraded the modem to the newest one released . For anyone tryinbg to do thius with the verizon model, make sure your APN for T-Mobile US or T-Mobile Data (I personally have started using it as T-Mobile Data) has "None" typed in for the username and for APN if your using LTE device type in "fast.tmobile.com" instead of the epc.tmobile...... or whatever it is. Does anyone know if flashing a modem or radio or even just the rom from the tmobile section would help at all? Or would it just **** up the phone..
Despite not getting 3g (since I lack the appropriate physical antenna apparently) I get way better cover with T-Mobile (through Straight Talk) I have to say compared to Verizon. Maybe my Note 2 is much better than my old Thunderbolt or maybe T-Mobile is just a bit better. Nevertheless every building at my university is made of reinforced concrete so you'd be hard pressed to get any reception in the classrooms. I find in places I had no service I have service, and places I had some service I have great service now.
Back on topic though:
I can get the 1900mhz through GSM but that isn't the same and my phone lacks whatever that Combi Bands thing is. So I don't know if it is a lost cause or not. I just figured I'd bring this back up since the OP never responded and I am in the same boat as they are (were?). Maybe a solution can be found or just "it ain't gonna work."
Just following up I have returned my N7105 in favor of a N7100 and get great H+ and 3G through T-Mobile/Straight Talk.
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Bumping this since the op didn't respond. I am having the same trouble and I attempted the fix you provided and found that my N7105 lacks the "combi bands"
I mistakenly purchased this phone for pre-paid here in America (should have gotten the n7100) and it seems that Straight Talk doesn't have AT&T cards anymore and I'm stuck on T-Mobile's EDGE service
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Fwiw, net10 is basically the same as straight talk. When you buy the $15 simcard pack from bestbuy for net10, it comes with 3 different sim cards in it. One of them is a micro sim that fits in the note2 and runs on at&t's network.
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Fwiw, net10 is basically the same as straight talk. When you buy the $15 simcard pack from bestbuy for net10, it comes with 3 different sim cards in it. One of them is a micro sim that fits in the note2 and runs on at&t's network.
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What max speed will be get in using Net10 on ATT sim? anyone checked?
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What max speed will be get in using Net10 on ATT sim? anyone checked?
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i got 7mbps on net10 with n7105.
hi brothers i have SG note2 GT-I7105T LTE and it work only on 2G Band when i switch to 3G(WCDMA) mode or LTE it show "Emergency Call" but when switch to 2G(GSM) it work fine so what can i do ? and please developers explain me this problem and how to solve i try Z3X Box but it not support this variant
please help me and thanx in advance
So we all know Rogers gave out the 2600 LTE superphone
Question is, Who here has actually been able to get LTE out of there Optimus? o.0 so far i hit 24mbps on 4g (hspa+)
it refuse to connect to any LTE when i force it on to LTE only
I am located in Toronto/Scarborough
IF your LTE is working do you see a 4G icon or an LTE icon!
Thanks people!
yes i do have a brand new micro sim that came with the phone (lte on teh chip)
yes i have an lte plan as the phone came wid my new plan
and yes i have setting set to wcmda/gsm/lte in network setting
Shows LTE.
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This might be a stupid question, but you did buy an LTE microsim right? And not any other one? You also have LTE enabled?
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Though LTE will be available before the world ends here in Winnipeg (Rogers said Feb 2013), they did mention that I need an LTE capable SIM card (regardless of size) for my number(s) to use LTE. So I assume that even if your phone has an LTE chip, it won't connect to LTE if you don't have an LTE capable SIM card.
You need:
a) LTE compatible data plan
b) LTE sim card
c) LTE coverage
Even in Vancouver where there is sufficient LTE coverage, my S3 would often switch between 3G and 4G.
I have an LTE chip since they sent me a brand new micro chip from rogers
they gave me the phone stating, it a 1gb share data lte plan
and yes i have wcmda/gsm/lte, even went into engineering mode to force band 4 and 7 no data connection
pretty sure bootloader and root unlocking doesn't remove the lte function hmmm guess am calling rogers
It probably has to do with your coverage then. My house gets full bars of LTE but where I work is HSPA+ only. Do you not get LTE anywhere?
rogers
so i called rogers and the 2600 band doesnt exsist yet......So its normal lte for now.
Awesome. I'm. So glad Bell & Rogers castrated and then dismembered the Inukshuk Wimax (Portable Internet) network for this farce.
My E970 gets 20-35mbit on the AWS LTE networks in Edmonton, Calgary and Vancouver so far. Who needs 2600 mhz when I can burn a whole month's data in 18 minutes?
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Shows LTE.
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Your image doesn't show LTE, and shows it connects Ted to WiFi.
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I've gotten 56 mbps down/30 mbps up here in Toronto on Bell.
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Here is a screen shot of my lte speed test in Vancouver. I also had to order the Fido lte micro sim card. lte wont work on your phone without the sim card.
I have Cricket Wireless and I can only seem to get Edge speeds on my m7vzw.
What's weird is I have previously put a different Cricket SIM in the phone before the device was switched from Verizon to Cricket and I got H+.
The band frequency charts would suggest that I should get at least H+.
I'm using the ROM below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531235
I tried the Google Edition radio, just left me with no signal.
After that didn't get me anywhere I flashed m7vzw_5.28.605.2_1.13.41.0702_Radio, which gave me back the weak Edge signal again.
LTE/H+ was working fine before I ported from Verizon.
I don't know what Firmware the device is on, or how to check.
Any thoughts?
I do not know how you got H+ before, maybe it was a Cricket SIM before AT&T took over and was a Sprint one? That wouldn't make sense though as Sprint doesn't use SIM cards. Below is the official specs for the Verizon one. AT&T only supports 850/1900 H+ which our phone does not support. I do not know why you are getting bad edge reception though.
Verizon: 800/1900MHZ, UMTS/HSPA 900/2100MHz,GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz, LTE 700MHz (Band 13)
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one-m7/
"We currently use frequencies in the 1900 MHz and 850 MHz ranges, although we have licenses to operate in other ranges."
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=14003
AT&T bought out Leap Wireless (Cricket) a few years ago, so that is whose towers you are connecting through.
My only thought is maybe you live in a refarmed T-Mobile area and the phone roamed you to H+?
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I do not know how you got H+ before, maybe it was a Cricket SIM before AT&T took over and was a Sprint one? That wouldn't make sense though as Sprint doesn't use SIM cards. Below is the official specs for the Verizon one. AT&T only supports 850/1900 H+ which our phone does not support. I do not know why you are getting bad edge reception though.
Verizon: 800/1900MHZ, UMTS/HSPA 900/2100MHz,GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz, LTE 700MHz (Band 13)
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one-m7/
"We currently use frequencies in the 1900 MHz and 850 MHz ranges, although we have licenses to operate in other ranges."
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=14003
AT&T bought out Leap Wireless (Cricket) a few years ago, so that is whose towers you are connecting through.
My only thought is maybe you live in a refarmed T-Mobile area and the phone roamed you to H+?
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It might of been 3G and not H+ to be honest. I just know it wasn't Edge. I do still have the same SIM I tested with before, and it also only produces Edge while in the HTC One. When I previously tested for service the phone was active with Verizon, but with a Cricket SIM for the test. I performed this test about 5-6 weeks ago.
Sounds like I did everything I could on my end though. I might have to explore other phone or carrier options.
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It might of been 3G and not H+ to be honest. I just know it wasn't Edge. I do still have the same SIM I tested with before, and it also only produces Edge while in the HTC One. When I previously tested for service the phone was active with Verizon, but with a Cricket SIM for the test. I performed this test about 5-6 weeks ago.
Sounds like I did everything I could on my end though. I might have to explore other phone or carrier options.
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I do know cricket is starting to drop support on Sprint towers and by March of this year their phones will not reach Sprint towers. You might have still had some towers that were Sprint in your area a few weeks ago that finally don't work on Cricket anymore and you got forced to AT&T. It would be the only logical situation.