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I've been trying out 3rd party keyboards from the market on the N7 and, besides some of them being a little behind (buggy with JB), most of them come up short in one or more of these key areas...
1. Trace (aka swipe) input
2. Has directional keys to move the cursor around
3. Uses Google Voice Type for voice input (IE text appears-as-you-speak, not some built-in pre-ICS style wait-until-you're-finished thing)
This is basically the HTC trace input keyboard that I'm describing. There are a few that do 1, fewer still that add 2 and none that I know of (besides stock) that do 3. I was using Swiftkey originally (0), then on to TouchPal for awhile (1). Ultra Keyboard is currently the best (1, 2) and it appears to use the Google voice recognition but does not show input on the fly. On the plus side it's very configurable and seems to be bug free (so far) with JB.
rwb2073 said:
I've been trying out 3rd party keyboards from the market on the N7 and, besides some of them being a little behind (buggy with JB), most of them come up short in one or more of these key areas...
1. Trace (aka swipe) input
2. Has directional keys to move the cursor around
3. Uses Google Voice Type for voice input (IE text appears-as-you-speak, not some built-in pre-ICS style wait-until-you're-finished thing)
This is basically the HTC trace input keyboard that I'm describing. There are a few that do 1, fewer still that add 2 and none that I know of (besides stock) that do 3. I was using Swiftkey originally (0), then on to TouchPal for awhile (1). Ultra Keyboard is currently the best (1, 2) and it appears to use the Google voice recognition but does not show input on the fly. On the plus side it's very configurable and seems to be bug free (so far) with JB.
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I might be wrong for the tablet version since I am using the phone version of Swiftkey on my tablet and phone(only have my phone on hand at work atm), but if you press the "123" button then the "{&=" button it will bring up direction keys.
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lostchopstik said:
I might be wrong for the tablet version since I am using the phone version of Swiftkey on my tablet and phone(only have my phone on hand at work atm), but if you press the "123" button then the "{&=" button it will bring up direction keys.
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This seems to work on Swiftkey 3 Tablet as well, so I stand corrected. Sorry. I guess what I should have said is directional keys that are always visible on the standard keyboard.
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rwb2073 said:
This seems to work on Swiftkey 3 Tablet as well, so I stand corrected. Sorry. I guess what I should have said is directional keys that are always visible on the standard keyboard.
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I believe thumb keyboard has directional keys always showing if you use the small nexus 7 layout
Also it has jellybean voice dictation included.
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Just to follow up here. Thanks for all the suggestions. I tried a few others and have settled on Ultra Keyboard. Besides the live dicitation, it does everything. Very configurable, and prompt responses from the dev to questions. Go Keyboard also does everything besides live dicitation, unfortunately it's showing (right now) as incompatible on the market.
I use the stock keyboard when i need to type normally. But my standard keyboard is the ics themed Swype beta by djdarknight. Super easy and lightning fast to use with a stylus. Give it a try if you're still looking for a trace type input. The voice typing feature is broken I think but you can make the arrows show up by holding 123.
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s-pen and handwriting recognition is quite cool, but how do you set it up to automatically put spaces in between words you write? I'm sure it must be an option but I can't seem to find it, and writing by hand is slower than just typing with thumbs if you have to keep hitting the space bar manually.
theoilman said:
s-pen and handwriting recognition is quite cool, but how do you set it up to automatically put spaces in between words you write? I'm sure it must be an option but I can't seem to find it, and writing by hand is slower than just typing with thumbs if you have to keep hitting the space bar manually.
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I'm a little perplexed at how difficult it is to find tutorials about the s-pen considering how popular reports claim this phone is. Are users simply enjoying a big phone and not exploiting the s-pen????
If im not mistaken this happens by default. Ive noticed if you just put a large enough space between the words or write one word underneath the other it will create a space. Hope this helps.
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_atlien_ said:
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I'm a little perplexed at how difficult it is to find tutorials about the s-pen considering how popular reports claim this phone is. Are users simply enjoying a big phone and not exploiting the s-pen????
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I still have missed out on a lot of neat options. I have developed a few habits, like whipping it out to take a quick note or something, but I still hit the buttons with my fingers instead of using the shortcuts. I am still unsure how the gestures work under the s-pen menu in the settings. Do I have to click the button? Does it only work in certain places? I don't get it, I tried to use the default ones to no avail, nor do custom ones work. I think it's because I use a different launcher actually, I forgot I already thought of that :x. Eh.
Like knarfies said, if you put a decent amount of space in-between the words it will automatically create the space. I also like writing at the top and just come down below the first word and it creates the space for me that way.
Also you can do a backwards L to do enter. You can do a quick swipe to the right to enter a space. You can do - by going back and forth to make it. You can also hold down the spen button and swipe left on the word or letters you want to erase.
I really got the hang of writing with it. One thing that does irk me though. It has problems with words having letters and numbers. I write down a car VIN and I have to do a delay in-between letters and numbers. Otherwise it just becomes a mess and VIN numbers need to be 100% correct when doing customer invoices.
If you are rooted, you can install the MyScript Notes app. It has much better HWR, converting your writing to text after you write a string of words, adding spaces automatically.
The app can be found in the apps section, look for a thread by cajunflavoredbob.
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anyone know how to remove spen without unlocking the phone on lockscreen
Yeah this phone is great even without the S-Pen, and the things I do use the S-Pen for, don't really need a tutorial (more accurate selecting, drawing, taking notes, and hover in browser which is awesome for opening drop down menus)
However, the handwriting recoginition for chinese characters is AWESOME... if only i really knew how to write chinese
How do you use the pen to "write" texts rather than using the keyboard? I am able to "write" over the keyboard and see the writing but all I get is the letters from the keyboard that the pen touched while writing.
MisterEdF said:
How do you use the pen to "write" texts rather than using the keyboard? I am able to "write" over the keyboard and see the writing but all I get is the letters from the keyboard that the pen touched while writing.
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Click and hold the little microphone, then change to the little pen icon
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MisterEdF said:
How do you use the pen to "write" texts rather than using the keyboard? I am able to "write" over the keyboard and see the writing but all I get is the letters from the keyboard that the pen touched while writing.
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If you are using the samsung keyboard, i just press the button on the right of the "Sym" button, the one with "T" and it goes to the text writing using S-pen. Im not sure of any other ways. Maybe there is a way to make it default.
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How do you use the pen to "write" texts rather than using the keyboard? I am able to "write" over the keyboard and see the writing but all I get is the letters from the keyboard that the pen touched while writing.
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You can also go into samsung keyboard settings have change it so that it auto detects when the pen has been removed.
I've been enjoying s-pen for small stuff. like others have said, more accurate selections, web browsing tricks, etc
I saw someone mention using the back/menu buttons with s-pen (i have to use my fingers to tap those)...how does one use the home/back/menu buttons with s-pen? I have no idea
Long-press on the microphone key at the bottom of the keyboard, then select the "T" (the one with the little pencil next to it)
To view various helps, tutorials and setting options for the keyboard and handwriting recognition, tap the Gear symbol that pops-up after long-pressing the microphone key (as above). Alternatively, go to Settings/Language and Input then tap the Gear symbol next to "Samsung keyboard".
Explore. Lots of things appear when you explore.
While on the topic...
I wonder if I am the only one to have this happened to me, or if I am simply bone-headed, but all of a sudden the Samsung keyboard stopped working properly. It doesn't let me 'swype' anymore (the option is checked in the settings, but greyed out for some reason) and even though I have it setup so that it would go into handwriting recognition after pulling the pen out, it does not.
I noticed the change after "updating" the English dictionary in the 'input Languages' setting. Not sure wether or not it is related...
However, quite annoying...
OwenW71 said:
If you are rooted, you can install the MyScript Notes app. It has much better HWR, converting your writing to text after you write a string of words, adding spaces automatically.
The app can be found in the apps section, look for a thread by cajunflavoredbob.
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I can't seem to find it; might you have a link? thanks!
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You can also go into samsung keyboard settings have change it so that it auto detects when the pen has been removed.
I've been enjoying s-pen for small stuff. like others have said, more accurate selections, web browsing tricks, etc
I saw someone mention using the back/menu buttons with s-pen (i have to use my fingers to tap those)...how does one use the home/back/menu buttons with s-pen? I have no idea
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Use the built-in gestures with the s-pen to do the back and menu. While pressing on the s-pen button, draw < to go back, or > for menu.
There is no gesture for home, but I ended up getting Taskarou (an launcher overlay), or you could use Button Savior to go back to home.
Here is the link to MySript Notes. Search is your friend!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005018
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Friend told me that you just slide slightly from left to right after you type and it spaces
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degeneration said:
I still have missed out on a lot of neat options. I have developed a few habits, like whipping it out to take a quick note or something, but I still hit the buttons with my fingers instead of using the shortcuts. I am still unsure how the gestures work under the s-pen menu in the settings. Do I have to click the button? Does it only work in certain places? I don't get it, I tried to use the default ones to no avail, nor do custom ones work. I think it's because I use a different launcher actually, I forgot I already thought of that :x. Eh.
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To bring up the gestures menu you press and hold the s pen button off screen while keeping it pressed, swipe up with the pen touching the screen. A little box pops up and then you can draw the gestures there. This can be done regardless of what launcher you use and it doesn't matter what app you are using.
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Cool thanks
Hello everybody
I am new to this forum and also new to Galaxyy Note 2. I bought this Note 2 for serious use of the S-Pen apps
and to take up note-taking seriously with handwriting mode.
The problem I am having is that When I rest my palm to write, the palm touches the "back" button accidentally -
and this happens several times - and I have to again get back to my notes by opening it again. I can't position my
palm in such a way that it does not touch the "back" button. If I moved my palm then it touches the "menu" button
and that pops up.
I write the notes with the device in the upright - i.e. vertical screen mode. If I made it horizontal it is fine but
since I see only a few lines I don't wish to keep it horizontal. That rules out one possibility.
The note 2 screen does not roll upside down as is the case with iPad3 ( in which the screen rolls upside down also).
If it rolled upside down, my problem would not be there as the palm would not touch anything.
How do I resolve my problem. Once again I re-iterate that I bought this Note 2 for serious usage in note-taking.
Please help. Thanks in advance
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Hello everybody
I am new to this forum and also new to Galaxyy Note 2. I bought this Note 2 for serious use of the S-Pen apps
and to take up note-taking seriously with handwriting mode.
The problem I am having is that When I rest my palm to write, the palm touches the "back" button accidentally -
and this happens several times - and I have to again get back to my notes by opening it again. I can't position my
palm in such a way that it does not touch the "back" button. If I moved my palm then it touches the "menu" button
and that pops up.
I write the notes with the device in the upright - i.e. vertical screen mode. If I made it horizontal it is fine but
since I see only a few lines I don't wish to keep it horizontal. That rules out one possibility.
The note 2 screen does not roll upside down as is the case with iPad3 ( in which the screen rolls upside down also).
If it rolled upside down, my problem would not be there as the palm would not touch anything.
How do I resolve my problem. Once again I re-iterate that I bought this Note 2 for serious usage in note-taking.
Please help. Thanks in advance
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First of all, welcome to the xda-forums.
Secondly, you should take a look at this video if you haven't ( i firmly believe you didn't ) , it's great and worth watching :good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
Thirdly, for your problem there are a ton of solutions, the easiest being the first result of this google search :
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=disable+hardware+keys+galaxy+note+2
Fourthly, search is your friend. Embrace it's love. Use it.
Simplistic framework has a quick settings button to enable/disable the capacitive keys
Look into the Android original development section for simplistic framework
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Hey all, is there a way to remap the spen button to something else other than bringing up the air command menu?
I use Papyrus a lot and would like to remap the s pen button to switch to the Papyrus eraser.
Sounds like a potent rom feature or maybe an xposed module... I couldn't find much on this... Try looking in the note 2 and note 3 forums... If it can be done it on those I would think it would be done the same way... I would be surprised if you didn't need root though.
Any word?
Does anyone know if there's been any development on this?
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Does anyone know if there's been any development on this?
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I'm neck deep in smali files, looking for this. Just give me a bit. Unless a more experienced developer shows up, I'll try my best to find something for you. But be gentle
note buddy app
This is not a way to remap spen button but i think its a great and easy workaround
Note buddy app has auto launch you can set to open papyrus when spen is removed.
Also can easily set attach and detach sounds
Then goto spen in settings to turn off stock sounds and disable detachment from air command to none
Hello everyone!
I just purchased the Galaxy S3 as an upgrade from the Galaxy S2 (d2tmo and hercules respectively). Over at the S2 XDA forums, our sweep2wake consisted of swiping across all the capacitive buttons on the device (since, as you know, it did not have hard buttons for menu, home, back, and search).
However, from what I've researched on this forum for the S3, it seems that YOUR sweep2wake is swiping a finger across the screen, or what the S2'ers called swipe2wake.
I know a couple devs, but unfortunately am not one. I do know that only certain devices are capable of waking by capacitive buttons due to keyboard drivers. My question is, does the S3 qualify? I'd love to wake it by touching the menu and back button. I've broken a plenty phones simply by wearing out their buttons, and I find sweep2wake an elegant solution.
However, I don't have the technical skill to port something like this to a kernel just yet. I hope someone can help me clarify this issue.
luxkore said:
Hello everyone!
I just purchased the Galaxy S3 as an upgrade from the Galaxy S2 (d2tmo and hercules respectively). Over at the S2 XDA forums, our sweep2wake consisted of swiping across all the capacitive buttons on the device (since, as you know, it did not have hard buttons for menu, home, back, and search).
However, from what I've researched on this forum for the S3, it seems that YOUR sweep2wake is swiping a finger across the screen, or what the S2'ers called swipe2wake.
I know a couple devs, but unfortunately am not one. I do know that only certain devices are capable of waking by capacitive buttons due to keyboard drivers. My question is, does the S3 qualify? I'd love to wake it by touching the menu and back button. I've broken a plenty phones simply by wearing out their buttons, and I find sweep2wake an elegant solution.
However, I don't have the technical skill to port something like this to a kernel just yet. I hope someone can help me clarify this issue.
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If you're rooted & running custom ROM, kit kat or lollipop, then flash Neocore kernel & use trickster mod to set sweep to wake & double tap to wake! Both have to be activated at the same time for it to work!
I'm not sure if you read my post, but it specifically ruled out screen-based waking solutions.
I was talking about capacitive button based wake (tap menu, tap back, screen on).