[Q] Kindle fire losing space - Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Since recently, my kindle fire space have been losing. From yesterday, I lost 0.01 of a GB. Is that normal? Because it just started recently. In addition, I could not find any app that is causing this. I searched the recent app that i ran and it appears that it have the same amount of space (Oh btw, its the app space that is increasing). What is causing this? Why didn't it happen before?
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Today, I witness it and now I'm sure something is wrong. When i turned off wifi today and went to storage. I was shocked to find that it went down from .81 to .76. The app space dropped too! It i checked it only 5 min before and it was .81. This is weird! I decided to take my time and find out all of the app that is taking up space. The only few I found are related to amazon that is taking up ridiculously large amount of space. I doubt it is amazon app that is causing this because it never occurred before. Help?
Thanks

Maybe do a factory reset if you're running stock or a fresh full clean flash for a custom ROM.

guitarman2010 said:
Maybe do a factory reset if you're running stock or a fresh full clean flash for a custom ROM.
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Yeah, that is an easy method. But i sideloaded many app and I am looking for another answer. This is why I'm on the forums.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.diskusage use this and give me screenshot.
Maybe you have a "System Data" - its not a system data) its TEMP files and files form check fs.
This files in /sdcard/.android_sequre (you know how this write ) and big size. And files in /sdcard/FOUND.....
This Files delete from PC in USB-disk mode (example from recovery)

make a titanium backup, and put it on your computer. then reset and get ti backup again and reinstall the backed up apps.
Devices:
Kindle Fire with AlienDroid primary and Modaco secondary

Mount your device's sdcard on your computer, then run a program like DiskInventory X for Mac or WinDirStat for Windows on it.
You may find application data files that are pretty huge. Uninstall the app and delete the file.

After hours of testing and clearing data. I found that American Device client platform (ADCP) and Amazon WebRunTime is constantly getting data. How is this be? Only started occurring recently. Maybe that is normal and something else is causing this? Does this indicate a virus? Because if its not virus, I really dont want to spent more time on this. Take some space i'm fine. Because I'm spenting too much time on this problem.

I did a factory reset. Yet the space is still decreasing. ???

is it normal? Because its amazon app that is taking up the space.

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[Q] There is insufficient space on this device

I have E4GT with Caulkins 2.9.1.
I have the following storage available on my device:
SD Card 24.25GB
USB Storage 3.25 GB
Device Memory 1.23 GB
I get the following error when trying to update apps, or install new apps:
"There is insufficient space on this device"
I have gone into settings>apps>google play> clear cache. -> no change
I have downloaded App Cache Cleaner app and cleared all cached files. -> no change
The error message is a lie written by a lazy programmer. What's actually happening is that the installation is trying to copy or move a file and can't. To circumvent this problem I have to enter root explorer and look for files related to the program I'm trying to upgrade and delete them. Sometimes I just find dangling files which aren't really needed; other times I have to delete the whole shebang and reinstall the program from scratch. One process that I've noticed can sometimes cause this problem is the auto-Odex routine that is available in the Development folder.
Bottom line though is that this problem has NOTHING to do with your available memory space.
Henri Blanche said:
The error message is a lie written by a lazy programmer. What's actually happening is that the installation is trying to copy or move a file and can't. To circumvent this problem I have to enter root explorer and look for files related to the program I'm trying to upgrade and delete them. Sometimes I just find dangling files which aren't really needed; other times I have to delete the whole shebang and reinstall the program from scratch. One process that I've noticed can sometimes cause this problem is the auto-Odex routine that is available in the Development folder.
Bottom line though is that this problem has NOTHING to do with your available memory space.
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How do I find dangling files in explorer. Is there a was for me to determine which ones are wasted files?
before i read your reply i went into recovery and wiped cached and dalvik cache, thought it worked, because i was finally able to install or update about 3 apps, but then got the same error on the 4th app.
so those steps that have been suggested by others on different devices but with similar errors, did not resolve this issue on E4GT.
thanks for any additional help.
This may help http://bit.ly/GNQOZh take a read. I fought this a while ago and went nuts till I did what I describe.
It's usually, but not always, as simple as looking for files with the name of the program imbedded. The most recent program for me was AudioGalaxy.... so I just searched for and deleted any reference to the program that didn't look essential.
If you're REALLY stumped, then download a program from the Market like Log Viewer, which shows you the real-time system log of your Android operating system. That's how I discovered that a failed file copy was being misinterpreted as a full disc in the first place. It also will show you the name of the file being copied or moved and into which directory. Helpful hint: cut and paste the log into something like Notepad for easier reading.
By all means empty out your caches... but only to remove a potential file that's causing you a problem. Like I said, you haven't run out of free space.
Good luck!
A common source for this error is also that there are partitions on your phone that are not visible in the system settings, but which can fill up too.
If you open a console on your device, i.e. with terminal emulator, and type "df" you should see every partition and how much space is free on it.
leaderbuilder said:
This may help take a read. I fought this a while ago and went nuts till I did what I describe.
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I did this earlier, and then downloaded App Cache Cleaner app and cleared all cached files which did not result in a solution...
im working on other suggestions from this thread
CandyIsYum said:
I did this earlier, and then downloaded App Cache Cleaner app and cleared all cached files which did not result in a solution...
im working on other suggestions from this thread
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App Cache Cleaner isn't really that thorough.
Try SD Maid.
CandyIsYum said:
I did this earlier, and then downloaded App Cache Cleaner app and cleared all cached files which did not result in a solution...
im working on other suggestions from this thread
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You 'cleared data' on the media and still had this issue? http://mikemartinezonline.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/03.png I've had this issue a few times with a few people- again it just happed to me yesterday! Seems that the media storage, media hub, oovoodo, and some others were taking up huge amounst of space. In fact my media storage was at 800MB until I cleared it. Especially noticed this for me after adding and removing media and swapping different sd cards.
leaderbuilder said:
You 'cleared data' on the media and still had this issue? ] I've had this issue a few times with a few people- again it just happed to me yesterday! Seems that the media storage, media hub, oovoodo, and some others were taking up huge amounst of space. In fact my media storage was at 800MB until I cleared it. Especially noticed this for me after adding and removing media and swapping different sd cards.
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I cleared the app cache there, and still had the issue. I also went into recovery and cleared cache, dalvik cache.
I didn't try the SDMaid method, so if someone else has this same problem, that may be a place to try.
I ended up starting with scratch with my device, and just upgraded to calkulin 2.9.2.
now my device is functioning as expected, and i can finally install angry birds space...
Well same problem shows up again.
updated to Calkulin 3.0, in hopes to resolve the problem, but still no go.
insufficient space when trying to install or update app from google play.
SD Card: 3.25GB Free / 29.7 GB
USB Storage: 7.29 Free / 11.50 GB
Device: 1.29 GB Free.
It's kind of annoying, is this something that would be resolved by going back to stock. This is getting a bit annoying.
thanks again.
Which app?
Edit: Have you tried clearing data for google play in settings/applications/all yet?
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[Q] stuck at CM boot design

So I have a KF running twa_priv's CM10/sgt7 20121112 build. I was watching a movie on the Freedi Youtube downloader before a parade this morning with headphones. I pulled them out and turned the screen off because there were floats approaching. After the ~2 hour parade, I tried turning it on. It had gone to a(n?) SOD, so I just restarted it like I always do and held down the power button for 10 seconds. I turned it back on and let it run. About 3ish minutes later I look at it and it is still on the blue CM circle bootloader. I forced it off by another 10 sec hold on the power button, then went into TWRP (2.2.2.1) after it turned back on. I chose the fix errors under the advanced option, and also flashed the 20121119 build of the ROM that I had previously downloaded. I wiped cache/dalvik and restarted system. I waited for more than an hour on the CM boot screen before I forced off again. I then went back into TWRP, copied the log to SD, and chose the mount system. I had it connected to my computer, but it didn't show any connected devices, didn't alert me via autoplay choices (or whatever it's called), and when I restarted the adb server, my kindle didn't show up there either. Also, twice during TWRP the KF froze on me and had to force restart. I am sure a complete system wipe would work, but I would rather just have this fixed.
Any ideas?
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And BTW, I have tried reseting the boot menu thingy from initial bootup using the power button which didn't work
Start fresh....save urself some headache
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guitarman2010 said:
Start fresh....save urself some headache
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I know that is the easy alternative, but I have sideloaded so many apps, and have a whole bunch of changed ui options, I am really hoping that there is an alternative.
Maybe Thepooch has some words of wisdom? I think his (your) comments are really helpful, and actually seem to help.
No offense to anyone, especially guitarman2010.
jma9454 said:
I know that is the easy alternative, but I have sideloaded so many apps, and have a whole bunch of changed ui options, I am really hoping that there is an alternative.
Maybe Thepooch has some words of wisdom? I think his (your) comments are really helpful, and actually seem to help.
No offense to anyone, especially guitarman2010.
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I know nothing compared to Thepooch lol.......I always keep backup apks on my Kindle because I flash different ROMs all the time
.....when you hit the walls of sanity, you have no-where to go.....
I use three different apps for backing up apk file the only downside is significant weight gain. Lots of people use titanium backup I do as well but really only for very little. I also use easy app manager and apk manager but often I`m stricken with considerable consumption of sdcard space so at this point I have scaled back to just using easy app manager for the majority. Things I really want to save I backup on my pc upload to Google drive and dropbox. Seems like overkill but time and time again I will get an update that is horrible and wish revert back to an older version and Google drive and dropbox are a mere download away without sucking away precious and limited kindle space. I don`t believe I know any more than anyone else I just do what is easy for me. I too flash Roms like crazy re-installing is and can be a weekly ritual depending on how smooth things are running. Guitarman2010 is right though A fresh install of your Rom is a very good idea. As for the adb issue there are minor device changes on jelly bean that can affect adb make sure you have the correct settings in developer options. In KFU delete this file and replace it http://db.tt/vXXeuL10 located in the kindle driver folder and reinstall the driver I have been making changes to it with ICS and jelly bean to keep adb working hope it helps.
I usually keep 2 or 3 ROMs handy on the Kindle SD ready to be flashed.......I never take off the Amazon update (6.3.1) just to be safe. My backup apk folder only has 205mb of usage and I use File Expert to make backups of the apks. I too also use the PC for even more backups and 4shared so I can easily transfer apps back and forth from the Kindle to a crappy low-end Samsung phone running Froyo. I'm getting off topic here so I'll shut-up lol
.....when you hit the walls of sanity, you have no-where to go.....
So I wiped cache, dalvik cache, factory reset. I didn't wipe SD card, cause i am hoping to get the files out eventually.Everything seemed fine, but I still can't connect it to the computer! I have it open to TWRP and selected mount, and same as before; no connected devices in device manager, no adb devices, and no autoplay window pops up to let me open files in the drive. I also had the 20121119 cm10/sgt7 in the sd card, so I flashed it, and rebooted, but I am still left at the CM logo. What can I do now? I replaced the file you said to in adb. I happen to have used Titanium Backup, too, a while back, so I have about 2/3 of my sideloaded apps.
Please help!
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I was looking at other Q&A's to help and for help, and saw that Soupkit is recommended to a lot of people.
Would this help me?
OR could I do some sort of terminal commands inside the advanced section of TWRP?
Your kindle isn`t ruined and if your having mounting issues then Soupkit would work great. Before you do anything anything drastic I will take my laptop to work and help you fix your kindle.

NFS: MW issue with data when switching Roms

I have been trying for the life of me to figure out the way, or if it's possible to keep progress from the game when updating or switching roms. As of now, Titanium Backup doesn't work, or does saving the data/game files and transferring them. Once you try to do either, it says that your unauthorized. Then you have to start fresh and re-download the 2 million gig game and files. I contacted firemonkey and they said rooted devices aren't supported. Don't remember seeing that on play, and it should be. Regardless, I paid for the game.....why am I not authorized to continue progress, and forced to start over from scratch when the newest version of pie is out? There has to be a way to keep progress....?:fingers-crossed:
I'm not sure how much this will help you but maybe it will be what you are looking for:
I recently had a problem where NFS:WM would crash on startup, and apparently the only thing to do (according to firemonkey) is just clear data and lose all progress. Having almost completed everything, I wasn't having any of that.
I'm not rooted but do have my bootloader unlocked so that I can fastboot TWRP to do backups, which also happens to give me root access when booted into TWRP. I made a backup and looked through it to try and and a problem. No luck there, but I did figure out that the game progress is stored in a single file. No config data or anything as far as I can tell, just the progress. So I cleared the data, ran the game through the first level, then copied that old progress file over the new one and I had it back up and going with all progress intact. It's basically a clean install, and since all of the config data is still part of the new install, it didn't cause me any problems.
I did download all of the game data again ultimately, however. But an earlier test of saving "/sdcard/Android/data/com.ea.games.nfs13_na/" and putting it back to avoid the download did work, although it could have been a fluke.
Anyway the file in question is "/data/data/com.ea.games.nfs13_na/files/var/nfstr_save.sb". Just save that one file, install the game from scratch otherwise, run it the first time, then copy that saved progress file over the new one. Assuming that there isn't anything else going on that I didn't find, that should solve your problem.
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I'm not sure how much this will help you but maybe it will be what you are looking for:
I recently had a problem where NFS:WM would crash on startup, and apparently the only thing to do (according to firemonkey) is just clear data and lose all progress. Having almost completed everything, I wasn't having any of that.
I'm not rooted but do have my bootloader unlocked so that I can fastboot TWRP to do backups, which also happens to give me root access when booted into TWRP. I made a backup and looked through it to try and and a problem. No luck there, but I did figure out that the game progress is stored in a single file. No config data or anything as far as I can tell, just the progress. So I cleared the data, ran the game through the first level, then copied that old progress file over the new one and I had it back up and going with all progress intact. It's basically a clean install, and since all of the config data is still part of the new install, it didn't cause me any problems.
I did download all of the game data again ultimately, however. But an earlier test of saving "/sdcard/Android/data/com.ea.games.nfs13_na/" and putting it back to avoid the download did work, although it could have been a fluke.
Anyway the file in question is "/data/data/com.ea.games.nfs13_na/files/var/nfstr_save.sb". Just save that one file, install the game from scratch otherwise, run it the first time, then copy that saved progress file over the new one. Assuming that there isn't anything else going on that I didn't find, that should solve your problem.
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Awesome. I'll give this a try. :good:
I use MyBackup Pro. I backed up the data and apk from my Nexus and transfered it to me Evo LTE. I restored the apk and data. It does prompt me to reinstall the other game data, which is fine with me. I found if I tried to copy it from one device to the other it would cause the game to crash randomly
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most likely because of the device id (which is the id you see when you type "adb devices" in a command prompt). it's supposed to stay constant in the lifetime of the device (except for factory reset)

[Q] Storage Space Running Out, Insufficient storage, my phone trying to screw me?

So...
I've had this problem for a while now, getting worse from day to day. I've asked about this before, but it wasnt solved.
Basically my phone is taking up data in the background. Probably updating, downloading something. Its so bad, that if i dont turn off data on the go, my 1.5GB are used in a day. Sync is turned off at all times
And another side effect of that is, that all that data probably has to be stored somewhere. So Im getting the storage space running out error. Kinda annoying cause I cant use gmail, Cant install any apps(insufficient storage available) etc.
I really have no idea where all that data is(after searching through all the folders for a while now)..
I'm on the latest AOKP Milestone(4.2)
Thanks!
There are a couple things I recommend doing in your position. First thing I would do would be to get an app that allows for more informative breakdown of what is using the storage. Something like diskusage should do the trick. This will allow you to see exactly where data is going, opposed to "misc" Perhaps this will show exactly what is taking up the storage, since you are rooted perhaps backups are the problem.
If that doesn't tell you what you want to know, or if you think an app may be using data behind the scenes then the next step I would do is to use some sort of data usage monitor. The built in one may suffice, settings > data usage. If not there may be better apps out there, although to be honest I have zero experience with those.
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There are a couple things I recommend doing in your position. First thing I would do would be to get an app that allows for more informative breakdown of what is using the storage. Something like diskusage should do the trick. This will allow you to see exactly where data is going, opposed to "misc" Perhaps this will show exactly what is taking up the storage, since you are rooted perhaps backups are the problem.
If that doesn't tell you what you want to know, or if you think an app may be using data behind the scenes then the next step I would do is to use some sort of data usage monitor. The built in one may suffice, settings > data usage. If not there may be better apps out there, although to be honest I have zero experience with those.
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Uploaded a pic what diskusage says. When i hit media it only opens the file manager and directs me to sd storage
BTW this what Onavo says has been consuming data this month:
Market Downloader - 800MB mobile, 2.4Gb Wifi, all in background - and no, i didnt download anything from the play store on the go and hardly anything on wifi - havent updated my apps in weeks b/c of missing storage
Android OS + Others - 530MB mobile and a whooping 12GB on Wifi! All in Background too.
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Uploaded a pic what diskusage says. When i hit media it only opens the file manager and directs me to sd storage
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It looks like you have some nested 0 folders in that pic. Perhaps cleaning that up will clear up some space. Side note, if you haven't updated your custom recovery in a long time it may not be a bad time to look into that.
BTW this what Onavo says has been consuming data this month:
Market Downloader - 800MB mobile, 2.4Gb Wifi, all in background - and no, i didnt download anything from the play store on the go and hardly anything on wifi - havent updated my apps in weeks b/c of missing storage
Android OS + Others - 530MB mobile and a whooping 12GB on Wifi! All in Background too.
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If I were in your situation, I would probably just get a clean start. This also would get rid of the nesting problem I mentioned above.
- I would make a backup of my current setup, probably just using Titanium Backup.
- Backup everything I want to keep from my phone to my PC, going through the 0 folders.
- Use fastboot to flash factory images, allowing it to wipe everything in the process. The .bat file should do this automatically.
- Use fastboot to install a recent custom recovery.
- Push the sdcard backup from my PC to my phone.
From here you have a couple options, root and reinstall Titanium backup and restore some of your apps (no system data) or go back into custom ROMs. You could flash AOKP again, or pick a different ROM.
A bit heavy handed, but I think that would be the least time consuming option considering the problem(s).
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It looks like you have some nested 0 folders in that pic. Perhaps cleaning that up will clear up some space. Side note, if you haven't updated your custom recovery in a long time it may not be a bad time to look into that.
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Yeah I noticed that like half a year ago, had no idea why that happened. At one point I felt like everytime I flashed a new rom a new 0 folder appeared.. How does that happen?
cupfulloflol said:
If I were in your situation, I would probably just get a clean start. This also would get rid of the nesting problem I mentioned above.
- I would make a backup of my current setup, probably just using Titanium Backup.
- Backup everything I want to keep from my phone to my PC, going through the 0 folders.
- Use fastboot to flash factory images, allowing it to wipe everything in the process. The .bat file should do this automatically.
- Use fastboot to install a recent custom recovery.
- Push the sdcard backup from my PC to my phone.
From here you have a couple options, root and reinstall Titanium backup and restore some of your apps (no system data) or go back into custom ROMs. You could flash AOKP again, or pick a different ROM.
A bit heavy handed, but I think that would be the least time consuming option considering the problem(s).
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I was actually thinking about a clean start, googleing how to wipe everything and I read that thats kinda not possbile. But thanks for those steps, I'll do that when I have time!
Thanks
Timoooo said:
Yeah I noticed that like half a year ago, had no idea why that happened. At one point I felt like everytime I flashed a new rom a new 0 folder appeared.. How does that happen?
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Basically when 4.2 came out, it brought along multi-user functionality. Custom recoveries at the time, when wiping and installing ended up creating the nesting problem. Recoveries then were updated, which doesn't create a bunch of /0 folders (one existing is correct). This was a super common problem about a year ago when 4.2 came to be. There were hundreds of threads about this problem, with more detailed info about what happens, why, and how to fix it. Wiping everything is one of the solutions, and since this isn't your only problem, this would probably be the recommended solution.
I was actually thinking about a clean start, googleing how to wipe everything and I read that thats kinda not possbile. But thanks for those steps, I'll do that when I have time!
Thanks
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I am not sure where you read that a wiping everything isn't possible, but whoever said that is all sorts of wrong. There are multiple ways to wipe things.
Just did what you said and it looks like everything worked! Everything is deleted, I have almost 13 gigs of free space, rooted my phone again and I'll probably install aokp or paranoid in a couple days.
No 0 Folders anymore and I'm sure as hell hoping that my data consumption will be fine now. I'll keep you updated on that in a few weeks again, but thanks for the help!
looks good thanks bud

Dumped all apps but one, still "critically low on storage" Help

Hi there. I just signed up thinking this was an Amazon Firestick forum. Looks like it's a lot more than that.
Maybe you can point me in the right direction, maybe not.
My firestick keeps telling me its critically low on storage and to remove apps. I have removed every app I cam remove except one. I have cleared every cache. No luck So with one app and every cache cleared it still isn't happy. What can I do?
When you go to FireOS settings / My FireTV / About, how much space is actually available?
The suggestion to remove apps is generic, and you may have a bunch of files taking up space elsewhere. Download a file manager app like Total Commander or MiXplorer and check to see if you have accumulated files in the Download folder.
Also check the rest of the internal storage one folder up (storage/emulated/0). Some apps may have left behind a folder with their own downloads. For example the Downloader app, creates a 'Downloader' folder where it puts anything downloaded through that app.
littleharbor2 said:
Hi there. I just signed up thinking this was an Amazon Firestick forum. Looks like it's a lot more than that.
Maybe you can point me in the right direction, maybe not.
My firestick keeps telling me its critically low on storage and to remove apps. I have removed every app I cam remove except one. I have cleared every cache. No luck So with one app and every cache cleared it still isn't happy. What can I do?
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Try reset to factory defaults, that should wipe all the garbage left out by other apps
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Try reset to factory defaults, that should wipe all the garbage left out by other apps
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Problem is if I reset it will wipe out the one app I can't afford to lose.
It might still be easier to install a file manager and browse through the stick to find out where the space has gone.
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