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Okay basically, when I got my phone I used the toolkit to root my phone, busybox, and CWR on the phone. Now I flashed like so many different roms, I want to go back to stock, I realize how important to have a stable OS then a buggy one. How can I do this, do I need Odin? if so would this void any warranty?
I hear if you use Odin, then the device will always show that I voided the warranty. is this true?
Thanks
rayoubi said:
Okay basically, when I got my phone I used the toolkit to root my phone, busybox, and CWR on the phone. Now I flashed like so many different roms, I want to go back to stock, I realize how important to have a stable OS then a buggy one. How can I do this, do I need Odin? if so would this void any warranty?
I hear if you use Odin, then the device will always show that I voided the warranty. is this true?
Thanks
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Check this post out. It should help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1725839
rayoubi said:
Okay basically, when I got my phone I used the toolkit to root my phone, busybox, and CWR on the phone. Now I flashed like so many different roms, I want to go back to stock, I realize how important to have a stable OS then a buggy one. How can I do this, do I need Odin? if so would this void any warranty?
I hear if you use Odin, then the device will always show that I voided the warranty. is this true?
Thanks
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If you want to go back to stock and keep root access, then follow this guide to the letter (skip the custom recovery part if you want to)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
If you want to go back to stock without root, do the same thing, but use the applicable image from http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SGH-I747M instead. TLS is Telus, RWC is Rogers and BMC is Bell. None of these will void warranty because they are stock images. I've done this, using the rooted images, to make a backup that I forgot to make when I first flashed a custom rom and It didn't trip my flash counter. Flashing stock images, as I understand, is pretty much like doing an official update, so it won't trip your flash counter or anything like that and your warranty will be intact. Hope this helps!
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If you want to go back to stock and keep root access, then follow this guide to the letter (skip the custom recovery part if you want to)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
If you want to go back to stock without root, do the same thing, but use the applicable image from http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SGH-I747M instead. TLS is Telus, RWC is Rogers and BMC is Bell. None of these will void warranty because they are stock images. I've done this, using the rooted images, to make a backup that I forgot to make when I first flashed a custom rom and It didn't trip my flash counter. Flashing stock images, as I understand, is pretty much like doing an official update, so it won't trip your flash counter or anything like that and your warranty will be intact. Hope this helps!
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You gave me some good info. I flashed my phone with odin using a stock image. However, I rooted my phone and it told me to use a insecure image. So to be rooted you cant use the offical stock rom? is this correct?
rayoubi said:
You gave me some good info. I flashed my phone with odin using a stock image. However, I rooted my phone and it told me to use a insecure image. So to be rooted you cant use the offical stock rom? is this correct?
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Even if you load your default stock provider ROM with Odin, you can still re-flash recovery and then flash SuperSU or Superuser (whatever app you prefer) and it will show your on a custom binary, but your OS is still stock + root. It won't affect the operation of the stock rom to my knowledge. Anytime I ever run into an issue, I just take my Telus Stock tarball and flash it with Odin, then I'm completely stock, including the bootloader and recovery app. Once I'm ready to start loading ROMs again, just flash the CWM recovery, it goes to custom, but your free to do whatever.
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Even if you load your default stock provider ROM with Odin, you can still re-flash recovery and then flash SuperSU or Superuser (whatever app you prefer) and it will show your on a custom binary, but your OS is still stock + root. It won't affect the operation of the stock rom to my knowledge. Anytime I ever run into an issue, I just take my Telus Stock tarball and flash it with Odin, then I'm completely stock, including the bootloader and recovery app. Once I'm ready to start loading ROMs again, just flash the CWM recovery, it goes to custom, but your free to do whatever.
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I was using the toolkit and it made me choose an insecure rom to give me root, busybox, and CWR. if I can just get the stock rom that came with my provider and have it rooted, I rather do that. I mean its not a big deal I guess if im using insecure rom, but I want to know why its called insecure rom. I want to know if there is a difference.
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I was using the toolkit and it made me choose an insecure rom to give me root, busybox, and CWR. if I can just get the stock rom that came with my provider and have it rooted, I rather do that. I mean its not a big deal I guess if im using insecure rom, but I want to know why its called insecure rom. I want to know if there is a difference.
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As I understand it, an insecure rom simply means it can grant root access. So if your rom is not insecure, and an application asks for superuser (root) access, it won't be able to get it. If you're insecure, and you have an app to manage superuser access (Superuser, SuperSU) then it can be allowed/granted as you like. As someone else said, if you're using the rooted rom, and you have an issue that you think might need warranty work, simply flash your unrooted stock rom and bring it in. The only problem would be if you had a problem that prevented you from flashing, but even then, if it was that bad, it's probably beyond warranty issues anyway. Again, hope this helps out, cheers.
I hate starting new threads cause, well, everyone else hates it lol.
But my hand is forced. I want the multi-window feature on my phone and like the impatient people we are, I want it now. Well the only problem is that the only way of getting said feature is too root your phone and install a custom ROM. Which is perfectly fine, I have no quarrels with custom roms, in fact I love them, I think the developers are amazing and truly unlock the full potential of the phone when they do make custom ROMS. However, one thing I do notice is that sometimes the roms become buggy and laggy after a while. Anyway's I digress...
My true reason too create this thread is that I need help in rooting my phone as its new and I paid full price for it, the last thing I want to do is brick it. By all means I am no noob, I've been rooting all my phones. Its just that I see that there is no direct root method for the t889v, I would assume it to be similar to t889 and with an addition to flashing the t889v modem/radio.
But if there is someone out there, who could assist me in successfully doing so I will be mighty grateful to them. I would prefer it be a person who has rooted their t889v.
Did you successfully get this resolved? Just got the Canadian version of T889V note2. I'd love to control my privacy a bit more, such as feeding malicious apps a fake contact list instead of letting then steal everything
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If by direct root you mean exploit, there isn't any I'm aware of. However rooting with Odin and either a stock injected ROM (if you want to avoid tripping your counter) or Chainfire's AutoRoot, or CWM and flashing a superuser zip as usual works just fine.
MCRHAZ said:
I hate starting new threads cause, well, everyone else hates it lol.
But my hand is forced. I want the multi-window feature on my phone and like the impatient people we are, I want it now. Well the only problem is that the only way of getting said feature is too root your phone and install a custom ROM. Which is perfectly fine, I have no quarrels with custom roms, in fact I love them, I think the developers are amazing and truly unlock the full potential of the phone when they do make custom ROMS. However, one thing I do notice is that sometimes the roms become buggy and laggy after a while. Anyway's I digress...
My true reason too create this thread is that I need help in rooting my phone as its new and I paid full price for it, the last thing I want to do is brick it. By all means I am no noob, I've been rooting all my phones. Its just that I see that there is no direct root method for the t889v, I would assume it to be similar to t889 and with an addition to flashing the t889v modem/radio.
But if there is someone out there, who could assist me in successfully doing so I will be mighty grateful to them. I would prefer it be a person who has rooted their t889v.
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Hey i messed up my wind note flashed the t889v modem and it screwed it up, is it possible you can link me with a nandroid backup of your phone,
Thanks in advance
How to root Windmobile T889v on Android 4.3
Darkshado said:
If by direct root you mean exploit, there isn't any I'm aware of. However rooting with Odin and either a stock injected ROM (if you want to avoid tripping your counter) or Chainfire's AutoRoot, or CWM and flashing a superuser zip as usual works just fine.
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Anyway confirmed step by step to root T889v on 4.3? The firmware ends in MK4, if that matters. Thanks for any help in advance.
subaron said:
Anyway confirmed step by step to root T889v on 4.3? The firmware ends in MK4, if that matters. Thanks for any help in advance.
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Will CF-Autoroot work with the T889v?
I don't know if CF-Autoroot will work on 4.3, but since you're going to trip the KNOX e-fuse anyway, you might as well:
Get Odin3 3.09 (the latest available version AFAIK)
Download the latest SuperSU zip update file and put it on your SD card
Flash the latest t0tle Odin flashable image. (Other HSPA t0lte variants like t0lteatt and t0ltetmo should also work)
Or, if you've got a tar binary (like Cygwin's if you're on Windows) available on your computer, the latest Clockworkmod image, which you'll rename to recovery.img and put in a tar file with the command: tar -H ustar -cf clockworkmod.tar recovery.img
Reboot to recovery
Backup your current ROM and data, just in case.
Install the SuperSU zip.
Reboot.
The stock, unmodified ROM might throw error messages about KNOX having been tripped. I haven't touched the 4.3 bootloaders because I haven't needed them yet. I'll leave figuring how to deal with those up to you, there's a few threads on that topic.
I did root my T889v(updated WindMobile stock ROM 4.3+TMobile radio) using CF-Autoroot. Downloaded the one for N7100(the one I searched on web for T889 actually doesn't work, this N7100 one from CF-Autoroot official web site worked without problem) and rooted. Then went to market to install SuperU, then it asked whether to disable Knox, I clicked yes and root was done.
The Knox counter is tripped anyway, but I don't care.
Dont work for me ...
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I did root my T889v(updated WindMobile stock ROM 4.3+TMobile radio) using CF-Autoroot. Downloaded the one for N7100(the one I searched on web for T889 actually doesn't work, this N7100 one from CF-Autoroot official web site worked without problem) and rooted. Then went to market to install SuperU, then it asked whether to disable Knox, I clicked yes and root was done.
The Knox counter is tripped anyway, but I don't care.
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I tried with to root with odin 3.09 and cf-auto-root (sgh-t889) & (gt-n7100) and bolth dont work... My phone model is (sgh-t889v) canadian . Can help me ?
So I'm by no means super knowledgable with this stuff but I've rooted a few phones, played around with CM on my old evo but for the most part I enjoy rooted stock.
I have Galaxy S3 Sprint 4.3 updated OTA from a rooted (4.1.2). When I took the OTA I lost root, no big deal I used Odin and flashed the CF auto root, it said it removed knox and I had root back. Cool!
In short 4.3 sucked, wanted to downgrade back so things like TrevE mod would work again and it wouldn't be so buggy. I tried to use odin to flash "KIES_HOME_L710VPBMD4_L710SPRBMD4_1130792_REV03_user_low_ship.tar.md5" but it gave me the "Use Kies Recovery and error occured" message.
So I then used odin and flashed TWRP and my phone booted.
I'm back on 4.3 rooted.
I've tried picking through the forums and interwebz for answers but I get mixed messages and info on international versions and what not.
I'm tired of trying to figure it out and really could use some help downgrading back to 4.1.2
Thanks,
Brandon
mentorkyrom said:
So I'm by no means super knowledgable with this stuff but I've rooted a few phones, played around with CM on my old evo but for the most part I enjoy rooted stock.
I have Galaxy S3 Sprint 4.3 updated OTA from a rooted (4.1.2). When I took the OTA I lost root, no big deal I used Odin and flashed the CF auto root, it said it removed knox and I had root back. Cool!
In short 4.3 sucked, wanted to downgrade back so things like TrevE mod would work again and it wouldn't be so buggy. I tried to use odin to flash "KIES_HOME_L710VPBMD4_L710SPRBMD4_1130792_REV03_user_low_ship.tar.md5" but it gave me the "Use Kies Recovery and error occured" message.
So I then used odin and flashed TWRP and my phone booted.
I'm back on 4.3 rooted.
I've tried picking through the forums and interwebz for answers but I get mixed messages and info on international versions and what not.
I'm tired of trying to figure it out and really could use some help downgrading back to 4.1.2
Thanks,
Brandon
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The 4.3 OTA installed a locked bootloader, which will prevent you from ODIN'ing back to a previous version. you can flash any ROM you would like from recovery, you CANNOT downgrade the bootloader. As of right now, if you have knox, you are stuck with it.
You are extremely lucky that you didn't brick your phone by using odin to flash a non-4.3 tar. I wouldnt try again.
My advice is, remain rooted with a custom recovery, and find a ROM to your liking, and flash that.
I have also heard that we cannot flash custom kernels on the knox (MK3) bootloader as well, but I havent verified that.
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The 4.3 OTA installed a locked bootloader, which will prevent you from ODIN'ing back to a previous version. you can flash any ROM you would like from recovery, you CANNOT downgrade the bootloader. As of right now, if you have knox, you are stuck with it.
You are extremely lucky that you didn't brick your phone by using odin to flash a non-4.3 tar. I wouldnt try again.
My advice is, remain rooted with a custom recovery, and find a ROM to your liking, and flash that.
I have also heard that we cannot flash custom kernels on the knox (MK3) bootloader as well, but I havent verified that.
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Thank you for the response. Is CyanogenMod an option then? If I go to CM could I flash back a stock 4.3 rom in the future?
As an added bonus question does CM allow wifi tethering?
Again thank you for the response.
mentorkyrom said:
Thank you for the response. Is CyanogenMod an option then? If I go to CM could I flash back a stock 4.3 rom in the future?
As an added bonus question does CM allow wifi tethering?
Again thank you for the response.
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CM is certainly an option. In fact, its what i am running now. CM11 12-24. Runs great. You can always odin the stock mk3 tar and go back to stock unrooted, at any time.
in order to flash cm11 you MUST be on TWRP 2.6.3.1 or CWM 6.0.4.5 or newer or the assert check will fail.
not sure on the tethering, but im pretty sure it definitely works on cm10.2 and i think it does on 11 as well, but dont quote me on that.
eletendre84 said:
CM is certainly an option. In fact, its what i am running now. CM11 12-24. Runs great. You can always odin the stock mk3 tar and go back to stock unrooted, at any time.
in order to flash cm11 you MUST be on TWRP 2.6.3.1 or CWM 6.0.4.5 or newer or the assert check will fail.
not sure on the tethering, but im pretty sure it definitely works on cm10.2 and i think it does on 11 as well, but dont quote me on that.
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Tethering is available on CM11 just like it was on 10.2; would strongly recommend latest Philz Touch Recovery over either TWRP or CWM though. Although it is based on CWM, it has proven to be pretty much the superior recovery option for flashing any Android build number, plus it is highly customizable.
Philz Touch Recovery
this is how to downgrade
mentorkyrom said:
So I'm by no means super knowledgable with this stuff but I've rooted a few phones, played around with CM on my old evo but for the most part I enjoy rooted stock.
I have Galaxy S3 Sprint 4.3 updated OTA from a rooted (4.1.2). When I took the OTA I lost root, no big deal I used Odin and flashed the CF auto root, it said it removed knox and I had root back. Cool!
In short 4.3 sucked, wanted to downgrade back so things like TrevE mod would work again and it wouldn't be so buggy. I tried to use odin to flash "KIES_HOME_L710VPBMD4_L710SPRBMD4_1130792_REV03_user_low_ship.tar.md5" but it gave me the "Use Kies Recovery and error occured" message.
So I then used odin and flashed TWRP and my phone booted.
I'm back on 4.3 rooted.
I've tried picking through the forums and interwebz for answers but I get mixed messages and info on international versions and what not.
I'm tired of trying to figure it out and really could use some help downgrading back to 4.1.2
Thanks,
Brandon
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do a factory data reset then use odin auto root from computer ok...... after boot u will get a security message supersu will be unfortunately stopping this is ok..... then u will need to download the supersu.app to root of sd then manually install this will update it and now u can turn off knox and have root... then go to market and download odin mobile then flash your .tar file u want and you will be good to go 4.1.2 doesn't have knox and has a unlocked bootloader so have fun bro this method may work for other phones
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do a factory data reset then use odin auto root from computer ok...... after boot u will get a security message supersu will be unfortunately stopping this is ok..... then u will need to download the supersu.app to root of sd then manually install this will update it and now u can turn off knox and have root... then go to market and download odin mobile then flash your .tar file u want and you will be good to go 4.1.2 doesn't have knox and has a unlocked bootloader so have fun bro this method may work for other phones
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Do you realize that this thread hasn't been used in a couple of months? I would assume the author has no more need of advice based on the inactivity. Also, once Knox is installed, it is on the phone to stay. PERIOD. NO DOWNGRADING POSSIBLE VIA ODIN. Custom ROMs of any build are fine via custom recovery, but any attempt to change the bootloader will trigger Knox and brick the phone. Dangerous info to be posting here, especially since someone else who doesn't know better might try this.
I have been away from Android and recently made the switch back (Smart Move!). I bought a Galaxy Note 2 and rooted it and tried some custom ROMs. In the process I tripped Knox and then I went back and read up on it and understand how it happened. I sold that phone and got a S4 with 4.2.2 stock on it. I want to root and move up to a 4.3 custom ROM but I want to make sure I have the steps down as far was not dealing with knox again.
1. Root the phone (I used Chainfire Auto Root previously on the Note 2)
2. To move up to 4.3, I need to find a custom rom without knox and flash.
3. If I ever want to go back to stock 4.2.2, I should be able to if I never install knox (this is the piece that I really want to verify).
Tripping knox isn't a showstopper by any means but I would like to get back to the original stock firmware if I wanted to so I asking if the steps above are accurate. From what I have read, I think if I stay away from custom roms with knox, I should be okay.
Thanks for you help!
You're steps are accurate. Just don't flash the 4.3 bootloader.
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jgc70 said:
1. Root the phone
2. Install TWRP recovery (my preferred recovery, but you need a custom one)
3. To move up to 4.3, I need to find a custom rom without knox and flash. I highly suggest the wicked rom. It's a modified stock 4.3 rom
4. If I ever want to go back to stock 4.2, never upgrade the bobootloader
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I added bother step but yes you're on the right track
Thanks for the info. Phone has been rooted and custom recovery installed. I am going to try out Wicked too.
Hi guys, I just got a galaxy s4 for t mobile and it came with 4.2.2 version of android. I'm scared to brick the phone but I really want to root it. Can someone point me to the right direction? Been reading some tutorials but they are for different versions of android. How do I root my phone without bricking it or tripping Knox?
itsfredo said:
Hi guys, I just got a galaxy s4 for t mobile and it came with 4.2.2 version of android. I'm scared to brick the phone but I really want to root it. Can someone point me to the right direction? Been reading some tutorials but they are for different versions of android. How do I root my phone without bricking it or tripping Knox?
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4.2.2 doesnt have Knox. Use CF-Auto Root by Chainfire to root.
The Sickness said:
4.2.2 doesnt have Knox. Use CF-Auto Root by Chainfire to root.
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Thanks! Now it seems that cf auto root comes with a stock kernel and recovery. Is this changeable? Can I install a custom recovery and kernel after using cf auto root? Or should I find a different method of rooting for this? Are there any safe ones out there. It seems that a lot is outdated and I'm afraid of installing the wrong thing.
itsfredo said:
Thanks! Now it seems that cf auto root comes with a stock kernel and recovery. Is this changeable? Can I install a custom recovery and kernel after using cf auto root? Or should I find a different method of rooting for this? Are there any safe ones out there. It seems that a lot is outdated and I'm afraid of installing the wrong thing.
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I don't know if towelroot will root 4.2.2, but it doesn't install a recovery.
Rob
itsfredo said:
Thanks! Now it seems that cf auto root comes with a stock kernel and recovery. Is this changeable? Can I install a custom recovery and kernel after using cf auto root? Or should I find a different method of rooting for this? Are there any safe ones out there. It seems that a lot is outdated and I'm afraid of installing the wrong thing.
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You're calling a rooting method outdated while using the exact "outdated" software it was meant to root in the first place. CF-autoroot is as safe as safe can be. In fact, I know it still works for 4.3 and I THINK 4.4.2; it just trips the KNOX counter on them... still gets the job done though.
As far as your concern of installing the recovery; it first flashes its own recovery so it can use an exploit, then reverts it back to stock. I believe the kernel is untouched.
If your end goal is to move on to custom recoveries and custom ROMs you can bypass the rooting process altogether and go straight for the recovery/ROM.
lordcheeto03 said:
You're calling a rooting method outdated while using the exact "outdated" software it was meant to root in the first place. CF-autoroot is as safe as safe can be. In fact, I know it still works for 4.3 and I THINK 4.4.2; it just trips the KNOX counter on them... still gets the job done though.
As far as your concern of installing the recovery; it first flashes its own recovery so it can use an exploit, then reverts it back to stock. I believe the kernel is untouched.
If your end goal is to move on to custom recoveries and custom ROMs you can bypass the rooting process altogether and go straight for the recovery/ROM.
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This.
You really don't need CF Auto Root at all until all you want to do is root the stock rom.
If you want to install a customer rom, use Odin to install a custom recovery and flash whatever you want from there.
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If your end goal is to move on to custom recoveries and custom ROMs you can bypass the rooting process altogether and go straight for the recovery/ROM.
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That's precisely my end goal. And I guess my question is how to do this safely with the Android version I have.
I didn't mean the root method was outdated; I was talking about some of the information that's on the general forum regarding root. There is even a post on one of the stickies asking for updated info in May. This scares me because for all I know I can follow one of these methods to root or install a custom recovery/rom and end up with a brick because something is no longer compatible.
I guess my question is: what is the best (updated) method of installing a custom rom/recovery for my tmobile s4 with android 4.2.2?
Use cf autoroot and flash clockworkmod through Odin. Download rommanager. Download a rom. Hit install rom from SD card. Pick your ROM from downloads.
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That's precisely my end goal. And I guess my question is how to do this safely with the Android version I have.
I didn't mean the root method was outdated; I was talking about some of the information that's on the general forum regarding root. There is even a post on one of the stickies asking for updated info in May. This scares me because for all I know I can follow one of these methods to root or install a custom recovery/rom and end up with a brick because something is no longer compatible.
I guess my question is: what is the best (updated) method of installing a custom rom/recovery for my tmobile s4 with android 4.2.2?
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I understand your apprehension, i really do. What I've said to do has worked for me when i got the phone over a year ago, and has worked here recently when i did it again. I'm trying to tell you there is no need for an updated way of doing what you want. If you want root, use CFauto root. Like i said, that method was done specifically for MDB and MDL firmwares, there is no better choice. Newer yeah, but better? Not a chance. Your firmware is equally outdated and it's worked for millions of users without fail.
As far as a custom ROM goes, find one you want to use, put it on your SD card, pick a recovery (CWM, Philz, or TWRP), flash that in Odin, boot to recovery (power+volume up) , do a full wipe (system, data, and cache) select the ROM, and flash. No need to root at all if you want to go straight to a custom ROM.
EDIT: Obviously, you might want to perform a nandroid backup once you flash your recovery... but that's really optional as long as you have the stock Odin-flashable firmware. Totally up to you.
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