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[Q] Can you send photos with Android Beam?

I have managed to send web pages etc easily enough but when I have a photo on the screen from the gallery and place the phones together I get the connection sound and the vibration but no function to beam the file?
Do I have to use a separate app? would have thought the gallery would have this option built in?

dave83uk said:
I have managed to send web pages etc easily enough but when I have a photo on the screen from the gallery and place the phones together I get the connection sound and the vibration but no function to beam the file?
Do I have to use a separate app? would have thought the gallery would have this option built in?
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If this function doesn't work, that would indeed seem very strange. Surely picture sharing in this way would be one of the highest case use scenarios?

dave83uk said:
I have managed to send web pages etc easily enough but when I have a photo on the screen from the gallery and place the phones together I get the connection sound and the vibration but no function to beam the file?
Do I have to use a separate app? would have thought the gallery would have this option built in?
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I get exactly the same

oscillik said:
If this function doesn't work, that would indeed seem very strange. Surely picture sharing in this way would be one of the highest case use scenarios?
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That's my thoughts too. I would certainly share pictures more often than web pages?!

winwiz said:
I get exactly the same
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Good to see it's not just me - or rather not good as this indicates the feature is lacking?!

dave83uk said:
Good to see it's not just me - or rather not good as this indicates the feature is lacking?!
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looks like it!
I was able to NFC an app I had my cousin didn't, and it went to the correct market place location.
But the photos didn't work! Dissapointing

I thought that for things like URLs, which would apply to websites and applications (since an application can be linked via it's market URI) that just using the NFC tag capability would suffice.
But for something like sharing pictures, I would've thought that using Android Beam would be almost like a quick and easy Bluetooth pairing...using NFC to handle the pairing and authentication, and then handing off the actual file transfer to Bluetooth.
Hopefully Android Beam will be improved upon, because sharing pictures was the immediate function I thought of when I saw the tech being demoed.

winwiz said:
looks like it!
I was able to NFC an app I had my cousin didn't, and it went to the correct market place location.
But the photos didn't work! Dissapointing
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The only thing I can think of is limitation in file size. Sending a web link, a YouTube link or a Market link would be very minimal amount of data to transfer. Even sending a contact, as I have seen done, would be minimal.
I suppose to send a Picture you would have to hold the phones together for quite a while, seen as they have to be practically touching back to back, could be awkward.
Although I don't know data transfer speeds of NFC

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I thought that for things like URLs, which would apply to websites and applications (since an application can be linked via it's market URI) that just using the NFC tag capability would suffice.
But for something like sharing pictures, I would've thought that using Android Beam would be almost like a quick and easy Bluetooth pairing...using NFC to handle the pairing and authentication, and then handing off the actual file transfer to Bluetooth.
Hopefully Android Beam will be improved upon, because sharing pictures was the immediate function I thought of when I saw the tech being demoed.
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Well fingers crossed to see it in future updates.

Android Beam works via NFC. The maximum data transfer rate of NFC is only 424 kbit/s, that's to slow to quickly "beam" a picture.
A 1 MB picture would take about 30+ sec to transfer (with more realistic transfer rates). A 30 sec "Beam" might not be what they intended, when they brought the "touch to share" Beam feature.

dave83uk said:
The only thing I can think of is limitation in file size. Sending a web link, a YouTube link or a Market link would be very minimal amount of data to transfer. Even sending a contact, as I have seen done, would be minimal.
I suppose to send a Picture you would have to hold the phones together for quite a while, seen as they have to be practically touching back to back, could be awkward.
Although I don't know data transfer speeds of NFC
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This. I don't think Android beam can send anywhere near enough data to transfer a photo.
The most likely scenario would be as oscillik suggested - an easy NFC based bluetooth pairing followed by the transfer taking place over BT.

I don't think NFC can send that much data quickly (to transfer a picture). It's basically designed to transfer small strings of data since the transfer speed is pretty low. Disappointing, yeah, but that's just how it works.
EDIT: Beaten to it. Shouldn't have started typing up a post and left my phone for 10 minutes then come back to submit.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

Ah well, looks like I will have to wait for Google Wallet to make an appearance over here (and for retailers to implement it) before I have any real use for NFC in the phone.
Unless one of the Devs finds a way of linking it to Bluetooth
Thanks for the replies.

Have you tried turning on Bluetooth or WiFi Direct to see if it can figure it out that way?

FISKER_Q said:
Have you tried turning on Bluetooth or WiFi Direct to see if it can figure it out that way?
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Just tried it with mine and a colleagues Galaxy Nexus with both Bluetooth and WiFi Direct turned on both and both devices sent to visible but still the same result - nothing.
Worth a shot though

1 word. "WiFi File Explorer"

You need to understand what's going on there. Phone only beams the web page's address, and the receiving phone loads the page from scratch. The same goes to youtube videos. Sending a picture is not so easy, because the NFC is not designed for such kind of thing(it is supposed to be using little battery,not being fast). Use bluetooth for sending pictures. Right tool for the right task.

gambiting said:
You need to understand what's going on there. Phone only beams the web page's address, and the receiving phone loads the page from scratch. The same goes to youtube videos. Sending a picture is not so easy, because the NFC is not designed for such kind of thing(it is supposed to be using little battery,not being fast). Use bluetooth for sending pictures. Right tool for the right task.
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Yes, but there's no reason why Android Beam cannot be used to initiate and simplify the Bluetooth pairing process and act as a rather user friendly 'ad-hoc' way to send pictures.
I really think Google missed a step here...

Out of interest, how would I go about using the Wi-Fi direct feature?
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dave83uk said:
Out of interest, how would I go about using the Wi-Fi direct feature?
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Same..would like to know

[Q] NFC not working?

Hi Guys.
My friend was trying to tell me how awesome NFC is, but no matter what we tried we cannot get it to work.
Its fine between his Nexus and S3, but neither will connect with my HOX.
I am running Leedroid, though im not sure that will matter.
I will try with my wifes HOX later, but has anyone else encountered trouble and how did you get it working?

lets get the stupid questions out of the way first...
You turned it on in settings >more >NFC?
you got android beam turned on just underneath that?

Yep, all of these things ticked.
And you are right, stupid questions out of the way first!
I tried with out my phone case and his phone case just to be sure. I tried all combinations of holding together (front to front, back to back, front to back etc) but still nothing.
Any other ideas would be great

I did succesfull with two HOX. And it worked fine to "beam" a contact (back on back) wich is opened. I'm also using NFC tags since weeks.
I think the problem are the two different vendors of the phones. Probably S Beam is not comptabile to Android Beam of HTC

S Beam is just for Galaxy S III. It should still support Android Beam. Yay for more proprietary standards.
Try it with another phone to see if its the HOX or SIII
My NFC worked fine for sharing a web link...

Thanks for the advice.
Tried with the wifes HOX, worked first time.
Guess it is a bit of a hiccup between vendors, might be something that gets patched in the future

ME TOO - But different issue?
I'm seeing similar...
Having now found out that Android Beam cannot be used for transfer of photos and video files, I discovered "Blue NFC"
The principle behind this app is simple...
When tapping your two devices together, the NFC chip, which is not suited for heavy file transfer, INSTEAD does the back-end work at automating a BLUETOOTH pairing between both devices, without any security questions, user action etc. It then uses BLUETOOTH to send the file, and then closes the connection.
But it seems there is some strange issue with the HTC One X...
As trying this method, bumping the devices (A Galaxy S3 and an HTC One X both with Blue NFC installed), causes the Galaxy S3 (as the host device) to allow me to tap to send the file to the One X...
Blue NFC sets up the Bluetooth connection automatically, and the file starts sending.
BUT... when it reaches 99%, on the HTC one X, I receive a "File Transfer/Could not be received" error, EVERY TIME.
Alas, I think this must have something to do with the new BT 4.0 spec on the Galaxy S3, and the HTC One X not supporting this, and I think this for the following reason...
Setting aside any fancy NFC wizardry, when trying a normal, traditional, Bluetooth image transfer the "old fashioned normal" way from a SGS3 to an HOX, the file transfers up to 99%, and fails every time then too.
Yet file sending FROM the HTC One X, back TO the SGS3, works fine.
The SGS3 can receive files fine. The HOX however cannot.
Has anyone else been able to send files either via:
1. ANDROID/S-Beam from SGS3 to HTC One X
2. Blue NFC from SGS3 to HOX
3. Traditional standard BT File Transfer from SGS3 to HOX
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It's totally doing my head in!

Perhaps you can try File Expert. I don't know how it is establishing the transfer.
Early I read that the concepts planned to use WiFi direct to transfer data

Shadamehr said:
I'm seeing similar...
Alas, I think this must have something to do with the new BT 4.0 spec on the Galaxy S3, and the HTC One X not supporting this, and I think this for the following reason...
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The HTC One X is Bluetooth 4.0 so id doubt its that.

My NFC is not working at all. Can anybody help. It has just stopped, it worked on stock 1.28, since ive ran slim, arhd, + leedroid, now im on stock 1.29.401.11 and it is not working at all. can anybody please help
thanks
drew071

Another bit of info is that in alogcat, the software is switching NFC on and off with the screen state.
Is there a way the NFC hardware could have been damaged?
drew071

drew071 said:
My NFC is not working at all. Can anybody help. It has just stopped, it worked on stock 1.28, since ive ran slim, arhd, + leedroid, now im on stock 1.29.401.11 and it is not working at all. can anybody please help
thanks
drew071
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I figured mine out. The NFC chip is in the stock battery, so my non-OEM extended "2850 mAh" (they're pretty close to stock time-wise, though) effectively removes the NFC hardware from the phone.
So, I'm going to try putting some packing foam around the stock S3 battery in my Note and see if I can rig up or find the software to support it.

My wife got anS3 the other day, and every time we'e tried it with my HOX, I can't beam a picture. I've been able to transfer an app (link to the play store)
When I try to transfer a picture from the S3 to my HOX, I get the message,
text/DirectShareGallery

rushwal said:
My wife got anS3 the other day, and every time we'e tried it with my HOX, I can't beam a picture. I've been able to transfer an app (link to the play store)
When I try to transfer a picture from the S3 to my HOX, I get the message,
text/DirectShareGallery
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As mentioned before the phones are not compatible. Perhaps it works if you use Roms like AOSP

ive just tried this with a galaxy s3 user and my CM10 HOX. worked well with youtube vids, pictures and contacts. The bumping phones process is a bit weird, to be honest

Glad to hear that this works with CM10, really disappointed that it doesn't work with Sense. Hopefully they fixed it in the Jellybean update?
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Not working
Just tested with a s3 and a htc one x, both jelly bean and it doesn't work

S Beam

Has anyone tried the S beam on this? I may be handing down my S III to someone where using this might be worthwhile.
I did the settings on both phone to enable it, but have not been able to get them linked to transfer files. I have tried going both ways and get a popup of touch to transfer but it disappears fast and nothing is transferred. i had read that it is supposed to first ask permission to connect, but this does not pop up on either device.
I am wondering if in typical Samsung fashion, have they made the two devices S beams incompatible (like they did with Android beam)?

gaww said:
Has anyone tried the S beam on this? I may be handing down my S III to someone where using this might be worthwhile.
I did the settings on both phone to enable it, but have not been able to get them linked to transfer files. I have tried going both ways and get a popup of touch to transfer but it disappears fast and nothing is transferred. i had read that it is supposed to first ask permission to connect, but this does not pop up on either device.
I am wondering if in typical Samsung fashion, have they made the two devices S beams incompatible (like they did with Android beam)?
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to use S-beam, both devices must have S-beam and wifi enabled, which means they both must be samsung devices (S3, note II for example). you then have to go to an app that supports sharing via NFC such as a picture from your gallery. after you touch phones you have to hold it there then tap and wait until it prompts you to separate the phone; i'm guessing this is the step that's being done wrong. if you separate too early the connection will never be established.

Jinra321 said:
to use S-beam, both devices must have S-beam and wifi enabled, which means they both must be samsung devices (S3, note II for example). you then have to go to an app that supports sharing via NFC such as a picture from your gallery. after you touch phones you have to hold it there then tap and wait until it prompts you to separate the phone; i'm guessing this is the step that's being done wrong. if you separate too early the connection will never be established.
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I have encountered the prompt to separate a few times, and I do so slowly (also been using stock gallery pictures) and still no transfer.

This took me a few rries with my new Note2's. Touch the backs, touch the image to transfer, and separate when it says to. Works pretty decent. Even cooler is photoshare. The wife and I went on a safari today and took about a hundred photos between the two of us and we both have all of them on both our devices. Badass Samsung!
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farfromovin said:
This took me a few rries with my new Note2's. Touch the backs, touch the image to transfer, and separate when it says to. Works pretty decent. Even cooler is photoshare. The wife and I went on a safari today and took about a hundred photos between the two of us and we both have all of them on both our devices. Badass Samsung!
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What I am asking is does it work with other devices and not just two of the same? I would like to be able to do what you did with a Note 2 and Galaxy S III

gaww said:
What I am asking is does it work with other devices and not just two of the same? I would like to be able to do what you did with a Note 2 and Galaxy S III
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My roommate has an S III and I have a note II. We are able to use S beam, but like I said, we needed to hold the phones there, tap, and wait for a prompt to say it's okay to separate the phones. Initially, we failed to beam because we were separating too early. Maybe you should also make sure you both have nfc/sbeam turned on as well as wifi?

Tried the Nfc with a Motorola razor maxx hd and it opens the play store on his phone every time I try to send a file... Why??
Sent from my T-mobile Galaxy Note II

ezsoulja said:
Tried the Nfc with a Motorola razor maxx hd and it opens the play store on his phone every time I try to send a file... Why??
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sounds like you're trying to send something from an app that he doesn't have. if i try to send my roommate a note from s-note, it will open the play store for him as it doesn't know how to negotiate the file. also note that i dont think you can send large files via nfc, i couldn't even send a picture.

Nfc transfer works with Nexus 7, fyi
Tmobile SGH-T889 using xda premium.

I do not have a SIM in my S III (It is in my note 2 now), but NFC and wifi transfer should not be affected.
I have carefully done all the settings on both devices and the few times I have gotten the "touch the image to transfer", I separated slowly when it said to and have yet to get a transfer. I was only trying to transfer one photo from the gallery. Tried it both ways.
Update. I realized I had the Perseus kernel installed so I flashed over it and now S beam works.
Update 2 - working fine with S 3 on a leaked LI8 ROM. Official JB S 3 update came out, and it is broken at S 3 end now - WTF.
Question - there is no S beam apk, so which apk is it included in?

does NFC really works in HOX?

I have tested about 3 HOXs that, after turning on NFC and android beam and bringing closer the two devices (back to back) the HOXs vibrate but NFC symbol doesn't show up and 'tap to beam' option won't appear. I have tested a gs3 and xperia ion as well, they work correctly (NFC symbols shows up and tap to beam options appear on files to be transferred)
Is this a serious bug or is there any other way to make it work on HOX?

Mine definitely works. I have a bunch of nfc tags and used nfc task launcher to set the tags. Also sent a link from my HOX to my wife's LG escape using nfc.
Are you saying that it doesn't work for you in both directions? Do have any tags to test with?

I am not sure whether it works or not in all the three HOXs I've tested. But NFC symbol won't shows up, though the devices vibrate when I bring them closer, back to back.. touch to beam option never apppeared on the files to be transferred. So, I doubt it for the same two reasons.
No, I haven't tested with tags, but tested among many combinations of HOX, GS3 and Xperia ION.

RAHIM233 said:
I have tested about 3 HOXs that, after turning on NFC and android beam and bringing closer the two devices (back to back) the HOXs vibrate but NFC symbol doesn't show up and 'tap to beam' option won't appear. I have tested a gs3 and xperia ion as well, they work correctly (NFC symbols shows up and tap to beam options appear on files to be transferred)
Is this a serious bug or is there any other way to make it work on HOX?
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if it works, I've already used to transfer contacts from a galaxy s3. The icon never appears, or is it that I've never seen xD

Nah it doesn't, its just a switch made specifically to brag about with your iPhone using mates.
Seriously, mine works.
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Are you doing file transfer using NFC?
Nah~ NFC file transfer doesn't support natively on ICS, Google implemented it since JB. FYI, file transfer on GS3 was Samsung's own feature that using NFC to hook up Wifi-Direct for tranfering files. NFC had really tiny bandwidth that not feasible for transfering large quantity of data.

It works fine, but as HebeGuess stated, in ICS transfering pictures or files does not work.
Open a contact or a webpage on one device and then put them back to back. Make sure the devices have the screens on & the screen unlocked.

Hmm.. my NFC is working well. But NFC icon isn't displaying in HOX. successfully transferred webpages and contacts.
Waiting for JB update for file transferring via NFC

[Q] Android Beam/ S-Beam

Hey guys,
I just joined up today so bare with me as I am new. My wife just got the Nexus 4 and I currently have the Galaxy Note 2. We are both with tmobile. We were trying to "bump" phones last night to share music. Everytime I tried to share a song from my phone to hers it would get all the way to the point where it would have you click the screen and then pull the phone away but then nothing happened on her end or android google play store would pop open with a error message. Can you not use Android Beam and S-beam together? Do you have to use certain settings?
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks

Did you have sbeam/android beam, nfc and bluetooth turned on on both phones?
Android uses nfc to connect the phones but for larger files it actually uses bluetooth to transfer the files. Try turning on nfc only and transfering a web page that is just a link that transfers and should show theat your nfc is working as it will open the browser on the receiving phone to the same web site.
Also when you beam something you have to have compatible apps on both phones to make it work so sometimes it works better to use 3rd party apps on both phones.
I was trying to get the Nexus 4 I had to work with my wifes Sony Xperia Acro S with only partial luck and have not gotten around to trying my Note 2 with her Sony Xperia Acro S yet but suspect it will only be partially effective.

The nexus 4 doesn't have s beam. ..so there are these issues. ..no solutions yet. ...I had made a thread addressing the same issue with my nexus 4 and s3 and note 2... in the nexus forum. ..no fix. ... yesterday tried doing that sane with a nokia Lumia 920... same problem. ...only Samsung has the full features of nfc working with the amazing s beam
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