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the Data connection is turning on on a regular basis and I can't find any scheduled tasks set up to access the Internet, but some rogue program is? any ideas any one and/or any way I get find out what is causing this.
I have the same problem.. And I'm a little bit tired!
I wrote on this thread with no answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529622
I have a flat data plane but I don't like that PDA face things on his own initiative!!
me neither, I'm in charge - not my new toy! Lets hope someone helps us out this time round.
I had the same problem. In my case the 2 apps connecting to the net were Google Maps and Funambol.
itm said:
I had the same problem. In my case the 2 apps connecting to the net were Google Maps and Funambol.
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Well, I don't use funambol.. And anyway: there are no program in task manamager! So: something is going wrong with manila..
I had the same 'problem', but my brother suggested to turn it off and on again. It did work as far as I could see.
I think it may be google maps causing this, but I'm not sure (and don't really care, since this 'solution' worked).
Any number of added apps can be doing this (Worldmate live is a bad one for example) or any apps still running and not shut down.
Obvious things to check first are:
Do you have automatic email check set?
Have you disabled auto-update in weather and stock quotes?
This drives me crazy too, afaik I have turned off everything yet it keeps turning on... A fix would be highly appreciated!
its the activesync...
turn it off, i mean, delete the settings and you'll be fine. activesync triggers automatic data sync, hence turning on the data connection
I use ActiveSync and don't have this problem. If it was ActiveSync, why would it cause the problem for some and not others ?
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2 apps connecting to the net were Google Maps and Funambol.
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Well.. I tested all day.. And I can say that I solved the problem!!!
I think that last time I closed gmaps.. I answered in a bad way to the question about updating Glatitude..
So: Gmaps seemed close but it was updating my position on the net!!!
When i opened gmaps i could see my avatar in the map.. So i understand that it was still online..
So.. I think I've solved!
Anyway we need a "netstat" on pocket pc...
Thank you for your advices.
Glad you worked it out.
I put this in the developers forum a while back. Maybe someone smarter than me will work out a solution to this sort of problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530634
As with the poster here. You will have an application that you have inadvertently set to autoupdate. The only thorough solution is to go through every program on your phone and check each setting meticulously. Alternatively. Back up your personal data and hard reset. Then reinstall your apps one by one, testing for an hour after each one. Eventually, you will find the offending app and can work on finding the setting in it to stop it connecting to the net.
Hi all,
the thing is there are dozen possibilities: activesync, alle gps-stuff, all auto-updates. So instead off looking up all these settings, you could also use the nodata.cab - works fine (phone need to be unlocked!)
greetz to all
Kjoere
thanks for all the posts, haven't checked for a while. I have checked everything and noting is set to auto update so very strange and annoying. Will try the nodata.cab - if I can find it?
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Anyway we need a "netstat" on pocket pc...
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Look at "TaskManager 3.1" that has a Netstat tab
Tom
download Modaco Nodata
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Look at "TaskManager 3.1" that has a Netstat tab
Tom
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Thank you! That is very interesting.
It also can be the build-in Facebook app in Contacts in manila. It has feature to automaticly update in 2 hours. At least, I had mine turned on as default.
The only reliable and "ultimate" solution is really Modaco NoData as mentioned above.
On the other hand not taking third party apps in count, basic traffic of HTC device is nothing to be scared of. Updates for weather, stocks and A-GPS are just few bytes in size... Obviously, GMaps, mail autocheck, Messenger etc. are different story, but none of these are started on their own... BTW, ActiveSync has nothing to do with Internet with one exception - Exchange mail sync, if you have any.
What you have to understand, is behaviour of the active data indicator (small G, E or H next to signal strength). If it's there does not mean, that any data are transferred at the moment. It just indicates opened data slot with current brodcasting tower in the cell. It could stay opened for hours after trasfer even just of few bytes. It closes usually only for two reasons - your phone switches to another cell (and has no reason to open data slot again) or the tower is busy and closes inactive slots to gain more capacity.
Except few rare cases in some coutries you're charged only for data transferred, not for time of the connection and therefore it doesn't matter. In Europe from 1st of July (some new EU limit) one Mb shouldn't cost more than 50 cents and with these basic updates you will NEVER reach it in one month...
Obviously, roaming is another story, but in settings of the standard services you can limit updates just for your country.
Hello ppl,
Since da past two months my desire is showing wrong current location in weather widget...earlier it used to show correct location...don't know what happened suddenly....any chance i could get back current location???? I hav tried changing roms and also tried clearing cache and defaults...but it still gives wrong location..
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Hello,
I have had the same problem (and still can reproduce it), but after turning on the WiFi it works again.
Google is able to determine you location on basis of the WiFi's in you neighborhood.
What i have understood is that it somehow has to do with information that is not sent via the 2g/3g radio towers anymore.
But i'm not sure about that.
At least it is working much better with WiFi on.
Thanx a lot for info...but wid wifi also it shows wrong place..dis happens only when im at my home..if i go to my frnd's place which is some 21 km away from my place,it shows correct location ....whereas when im home, it shows current location as a place which is approx 35km away from my home..strange!!
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Yeah, i know, i also have this problem.
But if you leave the WiFi on (always) and just walk in the neighborhood around, you will see that some of the SSID's that your phone can see, are also known by Google (streetview ) and thus android is able to find your location at that moment.
When you are at home, it still will keep that city as location.
I now have WiFi always on and if i have some trouble (because JuiceDefender refused the WiFi to start), i go to the balcony of our appartment and after some seconds, it knows again in which city i live
Just keep WiFi on and go outside. Inside the house there might be some trouble indeed.
Lately, this sounds like a duplicate post.
Considering, it doesn't matter if the widget gets info from WiFi, or a normal data connection, I think it's rather moot.
For the most part, the widget works ok, Until... you travel out of country, or the proximity.
At this point, it tells you, that you are in a city/country where you really are not in.
Granted, it depends on your provider to correlate this data.
Unfortunately, some apps do not. Case in point;
Left moscow for Kiev, Ukraine. After 4 days, it told me I was in Paris, France. Go figgure. 10 days later, when returned to Moscow, it told me, 2 days later, I was in Moscow.
It tells me, the weather widget has bugs. Sorry, I am a Win Developer. A bug is what it is.
I installed WF & Clock widget, no problems since
Thanx a lot ppl for giving me knowledge..
Peace
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Peace Dude...
So, from the lock screen a quick swipe up will launch Google Now. Anyone check it out yet?
I've been a pretty heavy Google products user for years, so there's a lot of info in there for me. I added my home and my work address, so it already shows me quite a bit of info when I start up.
1. Start it up and it's showing me today's weather - perfect, thank you =)
2. Showing me directions to work. Working from home, but my Gcal does say I should be in the office - thanks for that =)
3. Showing me something about a hospital nearby. Ok, not sure why but you're right, I haven't had a checkup in a while so I might be due.
4. Showing me a nearby restaurant, but as it's 2:30am - it's closed. Google Places knows what time they open, so hopefully they'll be smarter about stuff like that in the future.
How about your thoughts?
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So, from the lock screen a quick swipe up will launch Google Now. Anyone check it out yet?
I've been a pretty heavy Google products user for years, so there's a lot of info in there for me. I added my home and my work address, so it already shows me quite a bit of info when I start up.
1. Start it up and it's showing me today's weather - perfect, thank you =)
2. Showing me directions to work. Working from home, but my Gcal does say I should be in the office - thanks for that =)
3. Showing me something about a hospital nearby. Ok, not sure why but you're right, I haven't had a checkup in a while so I might be due.
4. Showing me a nearby restaurant, but as it's 2:30am - it's closed. Google Places knows what time they open, so hopefully they'll be smarter about stuff like that in the future.
How about your thoughts?
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I like it. Pretty accurate and going to be a great selling point to battle siri at verizon when customers brag about siri.. (if the vzw EVER gets a ota for JB that is..) At least i can demo it on my phone until the vzw gets it.
Yea mine shows me nothing
Yes, I really like Google Now, it's great. But since one hour ago, mine doesn't update anymore, it only shows "no connection". Maybe Google switched it off?
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I just found out that I can't even deactivate the cards in the app beause of a network error... But everything else including normal search works.
Really looks like Google switched it off...
Weird... working perfectly for me. Updating in real time and everything, all commands work too...
If you swipe up from the soft keys you can launch now. Same from the lock screen.
Launching is no problem, and some hours ago it worked perfectly. But now it can't connect to Google servers anymore... No matter if I use WiFi or 3G.
Maybe I'll try to wipe cache and dalvik-cache, it probably could help.
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OK, that helped. First I just deleted the app-data, but it still didn't work. Then I wiped cache and dalvik cache within CWM-Recovery and now I could set Google Now up again.
For some reason Now isn't showing me anything else than the next calendar event. Not even weather. Is the whole service just in the USA? It's weird because if I search for "weather in my city" it shows it correctly as a card in search so why won't it show it automatically eventhough it's enabled?
I am not getting anything. Weather, but I have to open Google now
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For some reason Now isn't showing me anything else than the next calendar event. Not even weather. Is the whole service just in the USA? It's weird because if I search for "weather in my city" it shows it correctly as a card in search so why won't it show it automatically eventhough it's enabled?
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Its worldwide. Works perfectly in singapore and even tells me the public transport times here.
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Google now looks amazing , so fast
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Off for me currently in UK.
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works for me in malaysia but only for weather. doesn't show notification for anything else
I can't get the weather to show up in the notification bar, any tips?
Creeps me the hell out. Will never enable it.
do not work in Japan
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I like it. Pretty accurate and going to be a great selling point to battle siri at verizon when customers brag about siri.. (if the vzw EVER gets a ota for JB that is..) At least i can demo it on my phone until the vzw gets it.
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Say it with me now: IT JUST WORKS :laugh:
I can't wait to knock the smugness out of the iFans I know on the Fourth.
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Creeps me the hell out. Will never enable it.
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You can completely customize what can be shown and what priority to show information. Not sure how that is creepy.
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Creeps me the hell out. Will never enable it.
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Though it really doesn't matter whether you use it or not, they already know this from all the other things you use you phone for. This way you at least know how well they know you
would it be possible to extract the google now apk?
so i could try to install it on my gs3
I'm not trying to start an argument but I just like to know exactly what the point of Google Now is.
I've had my GNex for around 4 weeks now and despite me setting up Now correctly (defining home, work etc), it never shows me anything useful. Occasionally it shows me a route to work and a route home but they are totally the worst route that I could take. It never seems to learn any route and if I dare to look at Location History in Google maps, all I see are a bunch of crazy lines that in no way represent where I've actually travelled! It's like someone strapped my Nexus on a bird's back and started shooting at it!
For example, I took a day off yesterday and stayed at home, but late in the day I took my daughter to the shops 3 miles away. Location History says that I travelled 40miles with a bunch of random lines all over the map!
The weather has only ever popped up once in the last few weeks and vanished a couple of minutes later.
It never shows anything of any interest anywhere I go (ok, this may be where I live )
Is this a UK thing or is Google Now genuinely useless and a work-in-progress?
I'm using a nexus 7 and personally I love Google now, I have no trouble with it and weather is fine
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Seems like you might have your GPS off. That kind of erratic behavior as far as location goes make me think it's only going by cell towers/WiFi hotspots, which is not entirely accurate.
I will admit though, it's not as informational as I thought it would be, but it will improve with time. I do have a schedule on my phone for work, and every single instance is named "Work". Because of this, it calculates how long of a commute I should expect, and let's me know what time I need to leave by.
It also displays my favorite NFL team's next game about 2 days in advanced, and displays the score for the rest of the day the day of the game.
It also always displays restaurants near me, but I've never really used that feature.
95% agree. I'm in UK too and cannot see the value yet.
The weather does pop up pretty often, say twice a day?
The travel reports are ok. When my alarm goes off for work Now shows my route and time which is helpful for me, but could live without.
I searched for a restaurant recently and Now popped up with a travel card, directions and time. That was cool.
But the question is; where is Google going with Now? Can we expect more great development in the near future?
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i think outside us google now is crap. hope they introduce more services with android 4.2.
Mine is pretty useful, even if just for the traffic info between home and work. The weather info isn't as useful as I typically have weather on my homescreen as a widget. But I have Google Now display the local Baseball and Football team scores. I don't follow sports much but I do like the information.
Honestly I don't use mine as much either. I can't seem to make it talk anymore. Most results are just google results. Seems like when I had it setup from the original leaked JB rom, every response was spoken.
Granted I still use the search feature like I always have to find local restaurants and phone numbers, etc.
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Seems like you might have your GPS off. That kind of erratic behavior as far as location goes make me think it's only going by cell towers/WiFi hotspots, which is not entirely accurate.
I will admit though, it's not as informational as I thought it would be, but it will improve with time. I do have a schedule on my phone for work, and every single instance is named "Work". Because of this, it calculates how long of a commute I should expect, and let's me know what time I need to leave by.
It also displays my favorite NFL team's next game about 2 days in advanced, and displays the score for the rest of the day the day of the game.
It also always displays restaurants near me, but I've never really used that feature.
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Actually, my GPS is on all the time!
For weather, try checking the settings? Mine is set to show in the morning and evening and they always show up fine. It is not that useful for me since I already have weather widgets on my home screen but oh well.
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You sure your not using apple maps?
Maybe it is a regional/country-specific thing? I'm located in the US near Boston and it works pretty well for me.
I use it often because it'll show me my commute to work when I'm home, my commute to home a few hours before I leave work, movies on Fridays/Saturdays/Sundays, places I've searched for and how long it'll take to get there (restaurants, shops, etc.), weather warnings for my area, flight information (I don't fly often but experienced this recently, very cool), restaurant recommendations, score updates for the teams I follow, and my next calendar event and how long it'll take to get there if there's an address attached. Public transit directions (subway, bus) will also show up when I'm walking around Boston.
I noticed over the last month or so that Google Now became "better" than it was before. I'm not sure if it's because I've been checking into places I eat at or visit but now it's giving me 4-6 recommendations on average. Maybe try checking into more places? I only share my checkins with close family on Latitude if you're not comfortable with doing that.
If you want to get a feel for a really in-your-face Google Now experience, I recently went on a trip to New York City, Las Vegas, and Los Angeles and my Google Now exploded. I attached some screenshots to show you!
Google Now doesn't even recognize what I'm saying, its useless for me
Google Now always recognizes my voice and has relevant information for weather and traffic for me, it only took about a month to learn my travel habits. The only thing I am unhappy with GN is it doesn't know SEC scores/games/teams, Siri does.
Now works for me in the UK, but only when it feels like it. Cards randomly disappear and the GPS drain, for me, is not a decent tradeoff. I do use it for routing to recently searched addresses so that all well and good, nut constantly polling for weather and other travel alerts is a no go for me. It needs IMO to be opened up to devs so BBC and sky news can be sent to it, then it would be worthwhile. Apart from that I use seperate widgets for everything.
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Google now is cool, but I found it, in combination with location services to be a huge battery hog.
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I am in the US and find it basically useless. However, I think part of that has a lot to do with what you want to get out if it.
The maps usually showed me the worst way to get to work or not up-to-date weather info.
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only use it for weather and set the alarm, its basically a lazy way to do things on your phone/tablet. it does work alot faster than the one on the iphone(siri)
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I don't use Google Now, just not worth the battery drain of location always being on.
Google Now is OK, but I'm having the same issue with location history
Generally, I find Google Now to be fine, but when I look at location history, I see the same symptoms as you. It seems to me that at times, it thinks that it is at home while I'm out. The location history map online really shows what's happening.
I do disable WiFi when I'm not near a known hotspot that I use (Tasker, using Cell Near to enable and when WiFi connected to populate the list), and I'm wondering if that might be related. I'll try leaving WiFi on to see what happens.
Does anyone know how to tell where the location data is coming from? I'm thinking of rerolling my own with Tasker, based on Cell ID when not charging if this doesn't get fixed soon.
Rick
Homey said:
I'm not trying to start an argument but I just like to know exactly what the point of Google Now is.
I've had my GNex for around 4 weeks now and despite me setting up Now correctly (defining home, work etc), it never shows me anything useful. Occasionally it shows me a route to work and a route home but they are totally the worst route that I could take. It never seems to learn any route and if I dare to look at Location History in Google maps, all I see are a bunch of crazy lines that in no way represent where I've actually travelled! It's like someone strapped my Nexus on a bird's back and started shooting at it!
For example, I took a day off yesterday and stayed at home, but late in the day I took my daughter to the shops 3 miles away. Location History says that I travelled 40miles with a bunch of random lines all over the map!
The weather has only ever popped up once in the last few weeks and vanished a couple of minutes later.
It never shows anything of any interest anywhere I go (ok, this may be where I live )
Is this a UK thing or is Google Now genuinely useless and a work-in-progress?
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I forgot to mention - this is on a Galaxy Note II. I know I'm in the wrong forum, but thought it was interesting that the issue was the same.
rickafterburner said:
Generally, I find Google Now to be fine, but when I look at location history, I see the same symptoms as you. It seems to me that at times, it thinks that it is at home while I'm out. The location history map online really shows what's happening.
I do disable WiFi when I'm not near a known hotspot that I use (Tasker, using Cell Near to enable and when WiFi connected to populate the list), and I'm wondering if that might be related. I'll try leaving WiFi on to see what happens.
Does anyone know how to tell where the location data is coming from? I'm thinking of rerolling my own with Tasker, based on Cell ID when not charging if this doesn't get fixed soon.
Rick
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You sure your not using apple maps?
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hehahahahahahah...
holy ****.. what a blow..:laugh:
I currently am trying to use two weather apps on my Z1 that don't work properly, a Zooper Widget Pro widget and Weatherback . Both of these apps work as expected on my Nexus 7, but the locations seem to be off on my Z1. I do NOT have a data plan on my phone (but the Nexus obviously doesn't either). Does anyone have any suggestions for which settings I should check? My regular weather apps run perfectly on my Z1.
Thanks in advance.
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I currently am trying to use two weather apps on my Z1 that don't work properly, a Zooper Widget Pro widget and Weatherback . Both of these apps work as expected on my Nexus 7, but the locations seem to be off on my Z1. I do NOT have a data plan on my phone (but the Nexus obviously doesn't either). Does anyone have any suggestions for which settings I should check? My regular weather apps run perfectly on my Z1.
Thanks in advance.
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What do you mean by 'locations seem to be off'? Is the weather not loading, or do you get weather for a different location? Does it not work for auto and manual location, or just auto, (try a manual location if you haven't yet). I had a similar problem that turned out to be caused by not having Gapps installed, since there's some service that Gapps provides that you need yo have an alternative for.
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What do you mean by 'locations seem to be off'? Is the weather not loading, or do you get weather for a different location? Does it not work for auto and manual location, or just auto, (try a manual location if you haven't yet). I had a similar problem that turned out to be caused by not having Gapps installed, since there's some service that Gapps provides that you need yo have an alternative for.
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Thanks for replying.
I've entered my location manually in Weatherback. It seems to work better. "World Weather Online" seems the most accurate in Minneapolis. I will experiment with the other two.
I also made a formula change in Zooper Widget Pro that seems illogical if the phone location is the issue. If I simply enter "#LLOC#" for the location command I get odd locations, one 100 miles away and one nearly 1500 miles away (Only the same 2, Tomah, WI and Tonopah, NV). However, I entered a variation of the following formula in all the weather related items: "$#LLOC#!=#LLOC#?****:#W0MAXN# / #W1MINN#$", which returns "68 / 54", as an example. This has been returning the correct local weather for the last few hours. Could be a fluke, but I've never gone even an hour in my house without an incorrect reading. I definitely have no idea why this works.
***Hmmm. Just as I finished the last paragraph I noticed that my location in Zooper is again incorrect. The weather temps, both predicted and current, are correct, as is the condition (Cloudy). Totally flummoxed by this.
Re: GAPPS. In Weatherback I have occasionally gotten a crash message related to GAPPS when altering the settings. I'm assuming this indicates that GAPPS is installed.
Any additional thoughts will be appreciated.
-Bob-
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Thanks for replying.
I've entered my location manually in Weatherback. It seems to work better. "World Weather Online" seems the most accurate in Minneapolis. I will experiment with the other two.
I also made a formula change in Zooper Widget Pro that seems illogical if the phone location is the issue. If I simply enter "#LLOC#" for the location command I get odd locations, one 100 miles away and one nearly 1500 miles away (Only the same 2, Tomah, WI and Tonopah, NV). However, I entered a variation of the following formula in all the weather related items: "$#LLOC#!=#LLOC#?****:#W0MAXN# / #W1MINN#$", which returns "68 / 54", as an example. This has been returning the correct local weather for the last few hours. Could be a fluke, but I've never gone even an hour in my house without an incorrect reading. I definitely have no idea why this works.
***Hmmm. Just as I finished the last paragraph I noticed that my location in Zooper is again incorrect. The weather temps, both predicted and current, are correct, as is the condition (Cloudy). Totally flummoxed by this.
Re: GAPPS. In Weatherback I have occasionally gotten a crash message related to GAPPS when altering the settings. I'm assuming this indicates that GAPPS is installed.
Any additional thoughts will be appreciated.
-Bob-
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Don't know much technical stuff, but see the last few posts of crdroid thread, (http://forum.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-z1-compact/development/rom-crdroid-android-t3117940), for the answer I got from someone who seems to know about it. Maybe it applies to your situation.