First I want to apologize that I am re-posting this in the general forum. I posted this originally in the Q&A but didnt get much help and dont know if this is useful in any way, but I am reposting it here as to see if anyone can possible shed some light on this, Again Mods and all I do apologize:
Greets all,
I have a question, I tried doing a search on google and on here but nothing is coming up thats useful, so sorry in advance for the post if i missed it because of not using the right keyword.
I have two HOX's, Long story short, I smashed my screen on my white one and sent it in to HTC to fix it, they did but they messed the phone up, so I sent it back and they fixed it, but looking at the phone, I think they changed my phone completely,. Mine the bootloader was unlocked and had a custom stock rom with root. Now my black one and my white one had the same Software Number under the software information section which the black one is: 2.17.401.2. (Black one X bootloader never unlocked or rooted)
But the white one they sent back to me has this: 2.17.1900.1 710RD.
everything else is exactly the same except for this numbering. I was expecting that I would have gotten back the phone the way I sent it back after they fixed it, but obviously its not, and before going and re-unlocking and rooting the phone, I wanted to know if this 2.17.1900.1 710RD meant anything or what region is this phone? Checked the bootloader and it says locked, so I dont know if this is a new phone, or they just locked it.
Looking at the serial number on the phone and the email in the correspondence the serial number matches, so that leads me to another question, can they take a new phone and change the serial number to match your prior phone if its not repairable? Plus this rom on my phone has a few apps on it that I havent seen at all on either phone like:
Dr. eye, easy card, KKBox, They also have Amazon MP3 in this rom too along with all the google apps, Movie, Music, etc.
The CID is the same as before: HTC__001 just like my black one. Both phones are international quad core phones, and I sent my white one to be repaired to the HTC in Houston TX.
Thanks to anyone that can shed light to this.
Here are two screenshots of the Software Number, and of the Bootloader.
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Also under settings I have App Association.
Looks like you have a branded phone, but since your CID is HTC__001 you may be able to run an unbranded RUU
Sent from my locked, tampered ville
My original phone was not branded. And being that I have the cid of HTC__001 I don't think it's branded to anyone, but the software number is strange. I have not seen anyone with this number nor can I find anything on the web about this number.
Sent from my HTC One X.
Anyone?
Sent from my HTC One X
You sent it to a USA repair center, might be a modified One XL Rom?
The same here, I just got my phone and it has same software ! "2.17.1900.1 710RD" I just called them and they told me to call back after one hour !! to speak to the escalation department ...
and now I'm waiting to get an answer from them.
RD software numbers stands for "Research and Development". More like a "beta" in layman's terms.
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I just called the escalation department at HTC and they told me to send it back to get fixed.
Even though I told them that I can fix it by flashing the UK software but they told me that would avoid my Warranty!!
How stupid !!! My phone was there since August Now they want me to send it back ..!!
Any ideas ?
Well first if its a beta then this bring about a few questions:
1) why isnt the software update check updating it to the 2.17.401.2 software?
2) being that it was sent to a USA repair center is this a USA rom? being that we cant flash other roms.
3) Would RD roms also not have test keys under the more/build number instead of release keys?
And Modnet, they want you to send it back to them so they can fix it? Last I checked flashing an official RUU would not void your warranty. Mine I had unlocked the bootloader, and rooted the phone, so since my screen was smashed, all I could do was back up the phone, and then sent it to them as is, when I got it back, the bootloader was "Locked" and flashed this rom. I personally wouldnt send it back to them. But the curious thought here is, could there be something in this rom that might be useful to us in regards to S-Off, or easier rooting, since this could be a Research and Development rom as Skanob states and thats why they want it back? I know its a long shot but its a thought.
But even if this is a RD rom, is this a US rom or a UK rom? Cause IF its a US rom, being mine has the cid of HTC__001 and being of the UK region, it would show maybe how to get another region rom on to our phones? Brainstorming here as you can see
I can tell you one thing for sure, putting both phones together, my Black HOX which is untouched and my backup, the Cell Signal strength is better then the white one that they sent back to me, the black one is -87dBm 13 asu 4-5 bars, my white one is -91 dBm 11 asu 3 bars. Dont know if this is due to the current rom in my white one, or cause of the wire or prongs making contact on the phone.
Good thinking man ...
Contact htc with your imei number, and they should help you. Ota releases are based on imei numbers(according to htc) and if the RD rom they installed supports ota updates they will send you the update individually.
Edit: the official release for UK has not been released yet.
Sent from my HTC One X
Vcek, your looking for a JB release, yes you are correct its not released yet, but I am talking about the software update of 2.17.401.2. this was the last official update which brought 4.04 ICS, and Sense 4.1, My black one has this, my white one did also until now. The question still stands if this rom: 2.17.1900.1 710RD is a "Beta" then why isnt it being updated to the official 2.17.401.2 rom of ICS?
And again, if this is a US beta ROM, then could there be something in this rom that can show us how they flashed a US rom onto a UK device? Because the software numbering here from what I have tried to search for doesnt follow any rom numbering we have seen. I havent unlocked the bootloader or rooted the phone just yet, because I am trying to see if this can be of help to any of us in our goal of being able to flash different region roms without the need of S-Off.
This rom has put alot of thoughts in my head on how possibly to flash different region roms, but again its brainstorming based on what I am suspecting. I dont want to get rid of a rom, or do something to the phone, without knowing it could have helped us in some way, it would be a waste of a rom in the event HTC F-ed up putting this beta rom on at least me and modnet's phone.
Have you checked your bootloader? Something weird might be there too .
Sent from my locked, tampered ville
usaff22 said:
Have you checked your bootloader? Something weird might be there too .
Sent from my locked, tampered ville
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Already been done in the OPs other thread in Q&A - it's all correct and present with a locked bootloader.
My take, it's an internal ROM that shouldn't be on the phone. I'd just flash the 2.17.401.2 RUU and be done with it
EddyOS said:
Already been done in the OPs other thread in Q&A - it's all correct and present with a locked bootloader.
My take, it's an internal ROM that shouldn't be on the phone. I'd just flash the 2.17.401.2 RUU and be done with it
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I'd keep it, might get an early R&D JB
I said that because someone on the One S forums had a new HBOOT version of 1.33 and S-OFF, but not the stock ROM unfortunately, so couldn't see of it was an early JB lol
Sent from my locked, tampered ville
My main thought here is this truthfully:
Being that we all are trying to find ways to flash roms from other regions, if this is a USA Rom beta or not, maybe we could find how it was done so that we can do the same without the need of s-off, or having to flash kernels separately. I'm just trying to think outside the box. And the other question is if my boot loader was unlocked and if I relocked it and it would say relocked, how did they get it to say locked?
Maybe my thinking is far fetched, but maybe it's not. That's why I'm trying to make the right people aware.
Sent from my HTC One X
Based on the fact that there is very little interest in this rom , I am going to assume nothing can be used to help us, so based on that I will root and unlock my hox for daily use and put the official 2.17.401.2 rom in its place tomorrow.
AngelDeath said:
Based on the fact that there is very little interest in this rom , I am going to assume nothing can be used to help us, so based on that I will root and unlock my hox for daily use and put the official 2.17.401.2 rom in its place tomorrow.
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why is this in one xl ??? MODS please !!!
Ok apparently my post was moved overnight by mods, and moved it completely to the wrong forum entirely. Guess Mods dont read posts either.
OK, OK Crappy, I'm on it. No need to yell.
Thread moved to One X forum. :thumbup:
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Hi all,
My phone info is here:
Baseband version: 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2
Software number: 2.13.720.2
From this link, I do not find a matching RUU for my phone.
The nearest I find is - RUU_Bravo_Froyo_hTC_Asia_WWE_2.13.707.1_Radio_32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_143921_signed.exe
So should I go ahead and download this one for future references?
Thanks!
Different RUU's have different locales and languages (Asia RUU would probably have Singapore, and Europe RUU wouldn't have it for example), but the difference is very minor.
The most important thing to see when you flash an RUU is whether its meant for AMOLED or SLCD.
eden2812 said:
Different RUU's have different locales and languages (Asia RUU would probably have Singapore, and Europe RUU wouldn't have it for example), but the difference is very minor.
The most important thing to see when you flash an RUU is whether its meant for AMOLED or SLCD.
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I have an SLCD Desire. And So is this the right RUU for me?? I belong to India BTW..
Well based on this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831734), I quote
droidzone said:
2. Is running an RUU safe?
It depends. If your device is an SLCD, running anything less than version 2.x has the potential to brick your device unless it is specifically certified to work with your device.
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and also
If you're from India, it is branded with HTC_038
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If you want a WWE (world wide) go for it, or not, you can also use a RUU meant for India. Its a personal preference.
As long as you use version 2.x above, it will be fine.
BUT! another thing to consider, is your phone unbranded?
Honestly, I suggest reading that thread abit more and see what you can learn
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Well based on this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831734), I quote
and also
If you want a WWE (world wide) go for it, or not, you can also use a RUU meant for India. Its a personal preference.
As long as you use version 2.x above, it will be fine.
BUT! another thing to consider, is your phone unbranded?
Honestly, I suggest reading that thread abit more and see what you can learn
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Thanks! Yes, I did read those help and how to links. I've understood few things which were Latin and Greek to me a couple of days ago. I've also read about the custom ROMs, the features they offer. So all in all, it's been a pretty fruitful week at xda
I've also decided on which custom ROM to flash first Just want to make sure I do it right, and hence exercising utmost caution.
'unbranded"? - as in locked to a particular network? -- No
I bought the phone unlocked and Froyo (2.2) came by default. So I didn't upgrade it OTA.
Last I updated something was the 2.13.720.2 firmware.
On your first post, just fyi, Baseband is your radio version
Each custom ROM developer would recommend their best radio version.
Anyway, if you are going to flash a custom ROM, that would mean you have to root, which you probably could go with "unrevoked" (google), and in the future, when you feel like it, Alpharev s-off.
So, as far as I know, flashing RUU's would take away root (ie. unroot, because RUUs are not "rooted"), and if you are going to flash a custom ROM, why would you be looking for an RUU?
In case I need in the future - to unroot for any reason, for warranty purposes, et al.
Before flashing a ROM, I wanna make sure that if things go wrong I have a way to restore my phone to default, which is why I wanted to know as to which RUU to download.
Okay
Well, I've done some reading around, and it looks like the RUU for India (2.13.720.2) was only released a couple of days ago.
I think the only thing now is to wait for the RUU to get dumped, or maybe request for it. :/
It's like the same that I cannot find the latest RUUs for SEA over on Shipped-Roms.
But honestly, my phone's firmware was for Asia last time, but I got sick of waiting for Froyo (it was released in Asia, but my phone just couldn't search OTA for it), and because I didn't see any RUU for it, I just downloaded a WWE version and flashed over the Asia one.
I've even talked to some people working in shops specializing in services for phones (jailbreak, root, soldering hardware, etc), and they honestly told me that even when sent back for warranty, their company does not really check software.
But also, your way has its merits. It's better to be safe than sorry.
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Okay
Well, I've done some reading around, and it looks like the RUU for India (2.13.720.2) was only released a couple of days ago.
I think the only thing now is to wait for the RUU to get dumped, or maybe request for it. :/
It's like the same that I cannot find the latest RUUs for SEA over on Shipped-Roms.
But honestly, my phone's firmware was for Asia last time, but I got sick of waiting for Froyo (it was released in Asia, but my phone just couldn't search OTA for it), and because I didn't see any RUU for it, I just downloaded a WWE version and flashed over the Asia one.
I've even talked to some people working in shops specializing in services for phones (jailbreak, root, soldering hardware, etc), and they honestly told me that even when sent back for warranty, their company does not really check software.
But also, your way has its merits. It's better to be safe than sorry.
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Yes, it was realeased a couple of days ago.
Thanks for the heads up, mate. Will sit down to root my Desire in a week or so - waiting for the Christmas holidays!
I do know a couple of friends who bricked their phone (coz of incompatible RUU) and to my surprise, they got their phones replaced from HTC! So it does appear that they do not pay much attention to the software changes caused due to rooting.
Cheers!
No problem. Sorry that I couldn't be that much of a help
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No problem. Sorry that I couldn't be that much of a help
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You've been quite helpful, yes..
Hey guys,
I'm due to receive my HTC One X later this week, direct from Orange UK. Big issue for me is the fact that the handset will be Orange bloatware branded. Now I've heard that their firmware isn't actually too bad and has had little customisation. However, what I am dubious of is the fact that Orange take MONTHS to release firmware updates... Incredibly frustrating.
SO, all I should like to do, is get my HOX running the plain and simple stock firmware. So I can receive OTA updates direct from HTC
Now, I'm very new to HTC. This is my first HTC phone since my run in with an old Window's PDA phone around 6 years ago... I became very gifted in the art of debranding and customising Samsung Android phones within the past two years, however HTC is a different game entirely!
Please, can someone give me a simple (I mean really dumbed down) version of how to debrand my HTC, how to root it (if necessary) and anything else in between! I would really, really appreciate it. I am a Mac OS X user, so Mac instructions would obviously be preferable
Thank you all very much for your time!
Eddy
MOD Can I have this moved to Q&A please?
You have just follow this tutorial for MAC OS X user
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592922
Briefly, you need to unlock the bootloader in order to flash custom recovery and then custom ROM.
Fightspit said:
You have just follow this tutorial for MAC OS X user
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592922
Briefly, you need to unlock the bootloader in order to flash custom recovery and then custom ROM.
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Thank you. Which ROM should I go with? I'd just like a plain and simple one that I will receive update from HTC for.
Eddzz!! said:
Thank you. Which ROM should I go with? I'd just like a plain and simple one that I will receive update from HTC for.
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You can't get OTA updates if you unlock your bootloader from htcdev.com.
Sheesh, have you even read any of the topics in this forum? ;-)
agento said:
You can't get OTA updates if you unlock your bootloader from htcdev.com.
Sheesh, have you even read any of the topics in this forum? ;-)
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how would this work?
i too am due to get a voda branded HOX which I want to debrand. I'm not interested in rooting or anything... all I want to do is put stock HTC firmware on there which would receive stock unbranded HTC OTA updates as and when they are released....
is there any way to do this yet bearing in mind that I am not fussed about rooting?
Without s-off you can't debrand, you would have to go custom but then you wouldn't get ota updates
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
agento said:
You can't get OTA updates if you unlock your bootloader from htcdev.com.
Sheesh, have you even read any of the topics in this forum? ;-)
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Like I said, I am completely new to all of this!
Is there no way for me to have the best of both worlds?
Eddzz!! said:
Is there no way for me to have the best of both worlds?
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Wait to see if somebody can change the bootloader to S-OFF mode and then alter your CID if you want to use the stock HTC firmware and have OTA updates.
Custom firmware can track the latest/greatest HTC firmware versions anyway so you'd get roughly the same end result.
i found this over at modaco but am not sure what exactly has been done:
http://android.modaco.com/topic/353106-debrand-one-x/page__gopid__1934961#entry1934961
Hi,
I purchased a new HTC One X from France (I have a friend there), and it came in french and with some apps of SFR (a french cellular company).
I want an official ROM of HTC but without all those apps, and with Hebrew support.
I saw this page with stock ROMs, but how do I know which one is suitable for me?
And can I install a stock ROM that did not come originally with my phone?
I am new to Android and smartphones in general, so please be patient with me (I'm a quick learner though).
Thank you.
Download cidgetter from the play store, that app will let you know your cid. My hox is unbranded with cid 401.
When you know your cid go to the page with the ruus and look for one with your cid in the version number.
Remember though you can only use a ruu with same or higher version number
You can't change region or carrier unless you have an s-off hox
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
OK, my CID is VODAP203. What does it mean?
And what is s-off hox, and how do I get that?
(Simply, all I want to do is to reset my phone to factory's settings but like a not-branded one and with Hebrew support, as if I bought the phone from my country).
Thanks in advance.
ps: is there any detailed guide which explain all those terms and how to install a new ROM and all this stuff...?
Go to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23542734
Tell them your cid and some 1 should be able to guide you to the relevent ruu for your cid, that will get you back to stock factory settings.
You can't change cid unless you are lucky enough to have a s-off hox (s-off = security-off) so your best bet if your not bothered about warranty is flashing a custom Rom with all the bloat removed.
Go to this thread for all you need to know about flashing a custom rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30471180
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
You can only use RUUs from Vodafone France - you can't use a stock ROM unless you go custom
bogfather said:
Tell them your cid and some 1 should be able to guide you to the relevent ruu for your cid, that will get you back to stock factory settings.
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That will get me back to factory settings but it will be exactly like I have it now (mine is brand new), right?
I don't want it like I got it, I want it as if it wasn't branded (like another region).
EddyOS said:
You can only use RUUs from Vodafone France - you can't use a stock ROM unless you go custom
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I don't understand something, I can't use a stock RUU but a custom one I can??
What do I need to do to get an official ROM (General, not branded, like pure HTC official ROM)?
Thanks...
You can't until we gain s-off, that's why if you want rid of all the bloat ware on your phone you will have to go custom rom or root and uninstall the bloatware yourself
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
LionGod8 said:
That will get me back to factory settings but it will be exactly like I have it now (mine is brand new), right?
I don't want it like I got it, I want it as if it wasn't branded (like another region).
I don't understand something, I can't use a stock RUU but a custom one I can??
What do I need to do to get an official ROM (General, not branded, like pure HTC official ROM)?
Thanks...
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I'm going to assume the lest complicated situation, you have a regular HTC One X that is S-ON, but that you've managed to unlock your bootloader and root your phone. From browsing around it seems like the most standard starting point.
I think you are right; it's a little weird that you can only use the RUU (what HTC provides as a stock / factory ROM) from where the phone was intended to be used. I guess this makes some sense: you can manufacture custom configurations of the phone per clients markets (i.e. US Telcos may want two types, a delux version and a stripped down cheaper version) so HTC makes sure to configure the phones differently. If you have different phones, then you need to ensure each works as it should out of the box, so two different ROMs might be required where each stock ROM is optimized for use with the phone configuration as dictated by the CID (does CID - configuration identifier??). So for most of us, the RUU that's available to us is strictly determined by the phone CID.
So why not create a super RUU that is so awesome that it could determine what the physical and software configuration of the phone is and permit only the compatible features? Are HTC developers too lazy?? Maybe, I don't know, I'm not a developer. So enter the custom ROM. A kind of super RUU IMHO that allows for more customization based on the talents of the developer(s) who often design these things for free, on their own time, and although not obligated one bit to support or update them, do so anyway.
So there you have it, you are stuck with the RUU that is compatible only with your CID, or you can research the various custom ROMs that exist and try them out.
Good luck and have fun with it.
Hello everybody!
I am relatively new One X owner and my previous handset was the famous HD2, so I used to be quite familiar with all the tweaks and mods. But now I have apparently stepped into a whole new world with a lot more complicated rules. There's talk about cid-numbers, nandroid backup, s-on/s-off, how you can't downgrade, etc. I tried to use the search, but I would like comprehensive answers to all my questions.
First thing first, what's a cid-number? I've read it has something to do with regions and operators, but how does this affect the device? Is this some kind hardware change or just software related? Is there even "international" versions available? Since I am ex HD2 user, the only difference between that device was the T-Mobile and international variat. Now it seems, there's a lot more different handsets available.
How does the cid-number affect the phone? Does these custom roms require specific cid-numbers? Can they be changed at all? What I've learned, my device cid-number is HTC__Y13. Does this mean something? And does it mean I can install for example the ARHD's newest Jelly Bean?
Talking about Jelly Bean, there has been talked about not being able to revert back to ICS? Why? Is actual physical changes made with the device, so it can't be downgraded? I never read people having such problems with the HD2. You could always revert back to older custom, or stock rom, if you wished to do so.
Then there's s-on and s-off. What does this mean exactly and how does it affect my device? I've already unlocked my bootloader, installed the custom boot and custom rom? Am I still somehow locked? I didn't even realize this has something meaningfull purpose.
I've probably already made my first mistake by not creating a nandroid backup. To clarify, I recently changed my stock rom to ARHD 9.7.0 and followed all the noobie instructions, but didn't realize that nandroid backup was somehow essential. Does this mean that I'm screwed somehow or is there a way to fully revert back to stock? Back in the HD2 era, you could have just downloaded the official stock rom and get your device back to stock. So what I'm asking, can I completely revert back to stock if I want for example send the device for repair?
And finally about the official updates. I've read a lot about not being able to update your rom, without reverting back to stock. Is this true and why would people want to do that? Doesn't the new custom roms include all the new improvements and upgrades? Why would people want to install custom rom, then revert back to stock to get the latest updates and then go back to custom? Maybe I've missed something?
Maybe these questions have been aswered a thousand times, in which case I would greatly appreciate, if somebody could point me to the right direction. If not, I would also appreciate, if you could answer any of my questions. It's not funny being in the dark.
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Hello everybody!
I am relatively new One X owner and my previous handset was the famous HD2, so I used to be quite familiar with all the tweaks and mods. But now I have apparently stepped into a whole new world with a lot more complicated rules. There's talk about cid-numbers, nandroid backup, s-on/s-off, how you can't downgrade, etc. I tried to use the search, but I would like comprehensive answers to all my questions.
First thing first, what's a cid-number? I've read it has something to do with regions and operators, but how does this affect the device? Is this some kind hardware change or just software related? Is there even "international" versions available? Since I am ex HD2 user, the only difference between that device was the T-Mobile and international variat. Now it seems, there's a lot more different handsets available.
How does the cid-number affect the phone? Does these custom roms require specific cid-numbers? Can they be changed at all? What I've learned, my device cid-number is HTC__Y13. Does this mean something? And does it mean I can install for example the ARHD's newest Jelly Bean?
Talking about Jelly Bean, there has been talked about not being able to revert back to ICS? Why? Is actual physical changes made with the device, so it can't be downgraded? I never read people having such problems with the HD2. You could always revert back to older custom, or stock rom, if you wished to do so.
Then there's s-on and s-off. What does this mean exactly and how does it affect my device? I've already unlocked my bootloader, installed the custom boot and custom rom? Am I still somehow locked? I didn't even realize this has something meaningfull purpose.
I've probably already made my first mistake by not creating a nandroid backup. To clarify, I recently changed my stock rom to ARHD 9.7.0 and followed all the noobie instructions, but didn't realize that nandroid backup was somehow essential. Does this mean that I'm screwed somehow or is there a way to fully revert back to stock? Back in the HD2 era, you could have just downloaded the official stock rom and get your device back to stock. So what I'm asking, can I completely revert back to stock if I want for example send the device for repair?
And finally about the official updates. I've read a lot about not being able to update your rom, without reverting back to stock. Is this true and why would people want to do that? Doesn't the new custom roms include all the new improvements and upgrades? Why would people want to install custom rom, then revert back to stock to get the latest updates and then go back to custom? Maybe I've missed something?
Maybe these questions have been aswered a thousand times, in which case I would greatly appreciate, if somebody could point me to the right direction. If not, I would also appreciate, if you could answer any of my questions. It's not funny being in the dark.
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hello, so: cid is region/operator number, for europe is htc__01 for example, and you can't change it while we don't have s-off, it's just a number that says to the ruu if it's the right version of phone or not, cid 11111111 is called supercid, and permit you to install every ruu in this world for this phone, but still we can't have it until we achieved s-off.
s-on/s-off are security on/security off, and except for few test devices, everybody have s-on when they buy a phone, and developers and hackers have to find a way to modify it to s-off, which will permit us to flash different hboot version, and downgrade, and change boot animations (the first one, not the second with animation, it's already moddable).
to return back to stock rom you have to relock your bootloader with fastboot command:
Code:
fastboot oem lock
and then download ruu version for your phone from here: http://htcruu.com/?dir=Endeavor
but you should download one with newer/the same hboot version and with your cidnum
to see hboot version just enter in bootloader and look to it there, for cidnum write this on cmd:
Code:
fastboot oem getvar cid
then enter in bootloader and launch .exe you downloaded and follow instructions, in some minutes you'll have completely stock rom! (but still no warranty, because you unlocked your bootloader, and when you relock it, it'll be written RELOCKED, instead of LOCKED when it's new).
flash jelly bean with new sense it's a risk now because it will flash also new hboot, that won't permit you to install previous rom or ruu, so you'll stay on jelly bean until somebody will do rom for this hboot! so i suggest you to wait some weeks and it will be official and more stable and better.
good luck in this new world
Thanks a lot! I guess there's different opinions about the warranty, because I have read that people have been able to fix their devices (under warranty), even after unlocked bootloader, if the device was returned to factory condition prior the repair. So warranty won't be voided completely and all the hardware issues are covered.
I've used app called "Cid Getter" and it gives me this line: [CID is:]: [HTC__Y13]. Is this my cid-number? If so, what is the right stock ruu for me?
HBOOT-1.12.0000 <------ I guess this is my hboot version?
In theory can the device be hacked , so the bootloader would say LOCKED, even if you unlocked it before? Or is this totally impossible?
Esaj2 said:
Thanks a lot! I guess there's different opinions about the warranty, because I have read that people have been able to fix their devices (under warranty), even after unlocked bootloader, if the device was returned to factory condition prior the repair. So warranty won't be voided completely and all the hardware issues are covered.
I've used app called "Cid Getter" and it gives me this line: [CID is:]: [HTC__Y13]. Is this my cid-number? If so, what is the right stock ruu for me?
HBOOT-1.12.0000 <------ I guess this is my hboot version?
In theory can the device be hacked , so the bootloader would say LOCKED, even if you unlocked it before? Or is this totally impossible?
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y13 i think that it's europe, try to download normal europe no brand version, if you'll have problems try another one,
yes, 1.12.0000 is your hboot version, and it's not the newest so you can download the last ruu without problems
no it can't, but even if it would be possible, it'll be pointless because you gave a number to htc, and they know your imei adress, so even with LOCKED, they'll know... in some countries they don't make problem about, if it's a hardware fault, in others you'll have problem, i don't know just ask htc in your country if you'll need it
Yes I have the European version, since I live in Finland and it is part of Europe and the European Union. Here we don't have branded phones so I guess that doesn't cause any problems. Also the phone was not sim-locked. Could you post me a link to a correct RUU? Does the radio version matter somehow?
What comes to the warranty, I probably will have to see that if it comes to it. Hopefully there's no reason to send the device for repair.
And if I understood correctly, I shouldn't upgrade to ARHD Jelly Bean, because it's going to cause some troubles, if I want to revert back to stock?
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Yes I have the European version, since I live in Finland and it is part of Europe and the European Union. Here we don't have branded phones so I guess that doesn't cause any problems. Also the phone was not sim-locked. Could you post me a link to a correct RUU? Does the radio version matter somehow?
What comes to the warranty, I probably will have to see that if it comes to it. Hopefully there's no reason to send the device for repair.
And if I understood correctly, I shouldn't upgrade to ARHD Jelly Bean, because it's going to cause some troubles, if I want to revert back to stock?
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what radio do you have? i don't know what's the difference, but i think there is a difference between mid-europa and north europa, so maybe there is something different.
about arhd jb you'll NOT BE ABLE to revert back to ics, so no ruu, neither other rom from xda, because they are done for other hboot as i know, so if you'll install it, you'll have it until someone will do something for this hboot
The radio version is 2.1204.135.20. I'm not sure, but I don't think there being a difference between Northern-European and Middle-European devices, at least what comes to the radio version.
So I guess I should stick with the current ICS ARHD 9.7.0 build for now... Thank you for your great help! :good:
http://htcruu.com/Endeavor/RUU_ENDE...Radio_2.1204.127.19_release_271851_signed.exe
this seems to be similar radio, try with it
Hi,
Ive tried without success to get the CID of my phone with get cid app from store or using emulator and the getprop ro.cid command.
Nothing...
What can I do for get it? :S
Esaj2 said:
The radio version is 2.1204.135.20. I'm not sure, but I don't think there being a difference between Northern-European and Middle-European devices, at least what comes to the radio version.
So I guess I should stick with the current ICS ARHD 9.7.0 build for now... Thank you for your great help! :good:
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CID isn't the only way to find out the RUU for your phone. If you'd done the right thing and checked your software build before rooting to make sure there is an RUU for your phone then you'd know which RUU is for you. For example:
If you were running 1.29.401.11 then RUU_ENDEAVOR_U_ICS_40_HTC_Europe_1.29.401.11_Radio_1.1204.105.14_release_260491_signed.exe would be the one for you
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if I want to revert back to stock?
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Have a look here bro http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859714
See you
Franky
Hello fellow xda people!
I know,I know, the title isn't very accurate. Give me suggestions if you have something more accurate.
I'd like to buy that phone, but after reading some threads here, I still have some questions :
-If I want to send my phone back to htc, let's say for a battery problem, should I go back to full stock? Because apparently to go back to stock we need to use a RUU, which needs S-OFF. But S-Off is a hint for them to understand we rooted, installed custom roms no? So if I need to send them back, am I screwed?
-Then, speaking about the customer service, how did you find it if you had to deal with it? And especially in Europe and France...
-If I don't want to go back to stock, should I go S-Off? Saw somewhere we had to pay for it :/, so is it worth it? What are the advantages?
-if I order it now, will I receive a quickcharge 2.0 charger or will I have to order it apart?
-How do you think will be the development for this phone in a few years? I'm new to HTC, so will they push updates for android N or was MM the last official update pushed?
-Are there different versions of the phone, making it incompatible with some ROMs? And if yes, which one should I choose? What is the name of the international version?
-I think that's all, If I need something else, I'll post back here
Thank you everyone!
My responses below, in red font:
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I know,I know, the title isn't very accurate. Give me suggestions if you have something more accurate.
I think the title is great. It describes what you are trying to do, and what you are asking.
-If I want to send my phone back to htc, let's say for a battery problem, should I go back to full stock? Because apparently to go back to stock we need to use a RUU, which needs S-OFF. But S-Off is a hint for them to understand we rooted, installed custom roms no? So if I need to send them back, am I screwed? If returning to HTC for warranty, going back to full stock is recommended (stock software, LOCKED bootloader, and possibly s-on). You do not need s-off to RUU (as long as its the proper RUU for your M8 version and proper RUU number - no downgrading with s-on). But you do need s-off to make the bootloader say LOCKED (which after UNLOCKED, only RELOCKED is possible with s-on). If you have s-off, you can change it back to say s-on. Although it is possible (although uncommon) for devices to come from the factory with s-off, so requirement to make it s-on (for warranty) is debatable.
-Then, speaking about the customer service, how did you find it if you had to deal with it? And especially in Europe and France... I don't live in Europe, nor have I dealt with HTC very much. Honestly, I've owned 6 HTC devices, and almost zero problems with any of them.
-If I don't want to go back to stock, should I go S-Off? Saw somewhere we had to pay for it :/, so is it worth it? What are the advantages? You don't need s-off to root of flash custom ROMs. s-off is needed to flash modified hboots, manually flash radios, and a few other things. S-off is useful, but not mandatory for many people.
-if I order it now, will I receive a quickcharge 2.0 charger or will I have to order it apart? You will get a standard charger. If you want QC 2.0, you'll need to put it separately, but there are 3rd party versions that are good quality, and inexpensive.
-How do you think will be the development for this phone in a few years? I'm new to HTC, so will they push updates for android N or was MM the last official update pushed? I don't think HTC has stated it officially, but most of us are suspecting that MM is the last major update. So you may be relying to ports (from newer HTC devices), AOSP ROMs, etc. if you want Android N. ROM development is still decent; although certainly slowing. But I expect and hope some devs will keep supporting the M8 for some time to come.
-Are there different versions of the phone, making it incompatible with some ROMs? And if yes, which one should I choose? What is the name of the international version? CDMA version (Sprint and Verizon), the dual SIM M8, and M8 Eye all need specific ROMs (or at least specific kernels, in the case of the CDMA versions). Otherwise, the other M8 version are all virtually the same, and share ROMs. So for the purpose of custom ROMs, I would definitely recommend the "international" otherwise known as the "GSM" M8 (so any version except CDMA, dual SIM, or Eye).
You should also be careful where you buy from, and what version you are buying. I've seen some folks on here that thought they were buying a international/GSM M8, but it was a Sprint or Verizon that was debranded (software modified, back plate changed) to make it seem like a it was the international version.
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OK, Thank you very much @redpoint73 for this precise answer! So I was still browsing around for more info about that phone, and a guy said we have to extract the kernel of every ROM (except for stock based Roms) and flash it separately if we are s-on. It was a HTC forum, but the topic was very global, so is this specific phone part of them, or can I flash complete ROM packages directly without extracting the kernel?
And, another one, how can I be sure my phone is a GSM version? They have a different name under "about phone" section of the settings, but this can be faked I think. And I could also verify the MID in the boot loader?
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! So I was still browsing around for more info about that phone, and a guy said we have to extract the kernel of every ROM (except for stock based Roms) and flash it separately if we are s-on.
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That is totally false. This was true on some older HTC devices (maybe they mean the One M7?) but was never the case on the M8. You just wipe and flash the desired ROM. Kernel flashes with the ROM automatically.
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And, another one, how can I be sure my phone is a GSM version? They have a different name under "about phone" section of the settings, but this can be faked I think. And I could also verify the MID in the boot loader?
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You need to look at not only the CID and MID in bootloader (getvar all) but also the product name (such as m8_ul, etc.). CID and MID can be easily hacked with s-off, but as far as I've seen, the product name is never modified.
Good list of MIDs and product names (column labelled "Variant" on the table) here: http://droider.eu/2014/09/20/htc-one-m8-models/
Until you have the phone in hard, I'm not sure how much of this you can tell for sure. So buy from a reputable source, with a guaranteed method of refund of exchange, in case the device is not as advertised (and we're seeing more and more of that lately).