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Hey everyone I am coming back to android after putzing with the iPhone 4S, I am just bored and would like to get back into using custom ROM's. I am torn between 3 phones, the 3 are the Galaxy Nexus, the Galaxy S3, and the Evo 4G LTE. Now one thing I am worried about on the Galaxy Nexus is the camera quality, how is the camera? I would also like your opinions after owning the phones for months at a time.
Cheers!
Cut out the EVO4G. It doesn't stand a chance between the Nexus and the S3.
If you want better developer support, go for the Nexus.
If you want a better camera and better hardware, go for the S3.
I have a Nexus right now and I have no urge to change to a S3 even if I had a choice to. This has made me SO happy.
The camera quality is amazing, it's nice having a quad band phone, the ROMs are great, and getting Jelly Bean today is AMAZING
A big reason I am considering the GN is because I heard the US S3 has a Dual Core, as compared to its EU counterpart, I really like the developmental platform for the Nexus that is why I am highly considering it. How are the touch screen home buttons and such? Do they cause any trouble?
Also does it have HDR?
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Hey everyone I am coming back to android after putzing with the iPhone 4S, I am just bored and would like to get back into using custom ROM's. I am torn between 3 phones, the 3 are the Galaxy Nexus, the Galaxy S3, and the Evo 4G LTE. Now one thing I am worried about on the Galaxy Nexus is the camera quality, how is the camera? I would also like your opinions after owning the phones for months at a time.
Cheers!
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I remember your screen name from some epic thread I read a while back, if only I could remember where that was...
Blitzpwnage said:
A big reason I am considering the GN is because I heard the US S3 has a Dual Core, as compared to its EU counterpart, I really like the developmental platform for the Nexus that is why I am highly considering it. How are the touch screen home buttons and such? Do they cause any trouble?
Also does it have HDR?
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The home buttons are amazing. Honestly I'd never wanna go back to "real" buttons again. The s3 is dual core. Personally I'd say get the gnex if you want a lot of development but I'd lie if I said I didn't like the look of the s3
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I would suggest getting the unlocked Galaxy Nexus and using it on Straight Talk. $45 a month for unlimited talk and text and 2gb of data(or so). If you need more data t mobile has some great cheap pre paid plans. The phone will cost you more up front, but in the long run you'll save money. There is a very in depth thread about it here in the general section.
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The home buttons are amazing. Honestly I'd never wanna go back to "real" buttons again.
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Quote for truth.
Camera is not so hot on the Nexus. If that is your major concern, probably would get the SGSIII.
I had all 3 of these phones and switched back to a Galaxy Nexus.
The Evo had to many Sense Reloading issues and the multitasking was a joke.
I got rid of the S3 because the dialer kept freezing up as well as other apps. Plus I didn't like the home button. I'm afraid that over time its gonna break. Also I dont care what anyone else says, the phone is slippery.
I chose the nexus because I moved to straight talk. Plus it'll have timely updates. Ain't no telling when or if the S3 or Evo while get them. However, I'm sure they will get the update
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plmiller0905 said:
I had all 3 of these phones and switched back to a Galaxy Nexus.
The Evo had to many Sense Reloading issues and the multitasking was a joke.
I got rid of the S3 because the dialer kept freezing up as well as other apps. Plus I didn't like the home button. I'm afraid that over time its gonna break. Also I dont care what anyone else says, the phone is slippery.
I chose the nexus because I moved to straight talk. Plus it'll have timely updates. Ain't no telling when or if the S3 or Evo while get them. However, I'm sure they will get the update
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Thanks for the great opinions! I think I am going to go with the GN. I want the vanilla android. Also I am fortunate enough to not have to pay for my bill so that is of no worry to me!
I look forward to jellybean!!!
Blitzpwnage said:
Thanks for the great opinions! I think I am going to go with the GN. I want the vanilla android. Also I am fortunate enough to not have to pay for my bill so that is of no worry to me!
I look forward to jellybean!!!
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Good call! :good:
Currently have the iPhone 5 (which I'm kinder bored of already) sold my S3 for it. I bought it for £599 in the UK 32gig version but can sell it for £639 - Thinking of doing this. Back to my question, is the Note II worth it?
Its keep the iPhone 5 and get the Note 10.1 or sell the 5 and get the Note II
recklesslife85 said:
Currently have the iPhone 5 (which I'm kinder bored of already) sold my S3 for it. I bought it for £599 in the UK 32gig version but can sell it for £639 - Thinking of doing this. Back to my question, is the Note II worth it?
Its keep the iPhone 5 and get the Note 10.1 or sell the 5 and get the Note II
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You can wait 4 EE's LTE Note 2 variant.
Keep the iPhone 5 and buy the Note II too. Selling the iPhone is never a good idea, sorry.
And about worthiness? Well to me none of these #latest# toys are worthy. Be it 700$ plastic Note or a metal iPhone. But yes, again, to me, aesthetics matters, it'll give you peace and desire for long run, but how long? This ain't your 90's BMW that you will be wanting to keep, as soon as a new one pops up you'll say just frak this. So, you gotta pay what you gotta pay
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SIII?
I'm looking at signing my contract again with Sprint. I don't mind being stuck on a contract for 2 year.
I want a phone that will be decent for 2 more years. I have the HTC EVO “supersonic” running Jelly bean. But it can’t run the latest games and HD apps I like on my Nexus 7.
When the Note was announced I waited, but it never came to Sprint. When the Samsung Galaxy S3 came out I wasn’t impressed because it was gimped dual core for $199 and I wanted a bigger screen. The Note will probably be $299 on contract and now I can get an S3 from Amazon for $149. Is the Note 2 worth double the price? I don’t know if I need a big screen now that I have a Nexus 7.
Pros of the Note 2:
-Double the RAM
-Quad core
-Stylus (taking notes at business meetings)
…But is it worth the price tag? Will there be better xda support for this in 2 years versus the S3?
You should also give a huge shout out to the battery life, it's incredible. At least to me.
I upgraded from a Desire HD, I was not impressed with the iPhone 5 but the Note 2 gives me that WOW effect that I wanted to have when I upgrade my phone. I was kind of worried about paying as much as 555€ (No contract) and had my thoughts if it was worth it but after 2 days using this device , totally. I don't find the size to big either. I am wearing skinny jeans and don't feel it to be bulky. It's probably because of the thin profile. But I have to agree that having an iOS device is also a good thing. (iPad 2 here)
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You should also give a huge shout out to the battery life, it's incredible. At least to me.
I upgraded from a Desire HD, I was not impressed with the iPhone 5 but the Note 2 gives me that WOW effect that I wanted to have when I upgrade my phone. I was kind of worried about paying as much as 555€ (No contract) and had my thoughts if it was worth it but after 2 days using this device , totally. I don't find the size to big either. I am wearing skinny jeans and don't feel it to be bulky. It's probably because of the thin profile. But I have to agree that having an iOS device is also a good thing. (iPad 2 here)
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why do you need ios when you have android? i always found ios incredebly crippled compared to android but i do not have much ios experience
ps its a serious question not a flame starter
jeriz said:
why do you need ios when you have android? i always found ios incredebly crippled compared to android but i do not have much ios experience
ps its a serious question not a flame starter
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I haven't found many things that iOS can't do that android can do. ( including widgets ) There is apparently a difference in the way they multi task...but they both get it done. Android has NFC, but that's hardware not software. And even now, I think NFC is just a play thing currently. (one that I admit I look forward to tinkering with)
I think the biggest difference is how moding is set up. On iOS, anything fourth party is under cydia. Any mod that I want to do to my iPhone, I just open cydia, hit a button, and it's done. I don't have to crawl web pages looking for a certain tweak and then get it to my phone. On the other hand, Google lets a lot of customization through the play store. Which is great!
From what I've seen, besides hardware optimization (if that is done) with roms like CM, they're just Android with pre-installed tweaks. Where as on iOS it's like you have Vanilla android, and you pick and choose what custom tweaks you want. I personally prefer the way iOS modding is done. But I can't wait to explore what Android has to offer. Though I am concerned at the apparent news that the CM team has no plans to work on the phone. But I have to try and find out if that is really important to me or not.
By the way, OP, idk if you haven't jail broken iOS before, but I'm guessing not since you're on the iPhone 5 and haven't commented how (afaik) that jail break isn't out yet, even tethered. I suggest not selling it, and jail breaking it. Or buy a cheap 3gs, 4 or 4s and jailbreaking that and playing with all the tweaks you can do.
As a new commer to the android community, it seems there is an ignorance at what iOS can do to many of it's most vocal users. Both systems and devices have pros and cons, just decide what flavour you'd rather have now. Or have both! switch one phone out every other week or something hehe. With all the tweaking i've done on my iPhone, i've never once had a stability issue...so it could be your back up as well.
Hope I've helped inform you a bit, and sorry if i've made any mistakes about android.
SchusterIX said:
I haven't found many things that iOS can't do that android can do. ( including widgets ) There is apparently a difference in the way they multi task...but they both get it done. Android has NFC, but that's hardware not software. And even now, I think NFC is just a play thing currently. (one that I admit I look forward to tinkering with)
I think the biggest difference is how moding is set up. On iOS, anything fourth party is under cydia. Any mod that I want to do to my iPhone, I just open cydia, hit a button, and it's done. I don't have to crawl web pages looking for a certain tweak and then get it to my phone. On the other hand, Google lets a lot of customization through the play store. Which is great!
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you have to look at it like this. on android you reinstall the whole os when you flash a rom there are many roms some of them come with apps that do what you say cydia does, and they are probably cydia inspired so you can have that on android to as part of the os
can you cange anything in the system on ios? on android I can easily modify any file, system or not
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From what I've seen, besides hardware optimization (if that is done) with roms like CM, they're just Android with pre-installed tweaks. Where as on iOS it's like you have Vanilla android, and you pick and choose what custom tweaks you want. I personally prefer the way iOS modding is done. But I can't wait to explore what Android has to offer. Though I am concerned at the apparent news that the CM team has no plans to work on the phone. But I have to try and find out if that is really important to me or not.
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don't say that CM is just android with tweaks preinstalled its not and saying so in a android forum will get you flamed I know most roms are just as you described but saying it about CM is quite insulting to the devs, just a frendly pointer
it is sad that cm won't be going n2 but its not a dealbreaker there will probably be akop and many custom tw roms to choose from and don't forget kernel development and probably miui too, who knows it might even get ubuntu
and if it's just ui canges your after android has literary endless possibilities
SchusterIX said:
As a new commer to the android community, it seems there is an ignorance at what iOS can do to many of it's most vocal users. Both systems and devices have pros and cons, just decide what flavour you'd rather have now. Or have both! switch one phone out every other week or something hehe. With all the tweaking i've done on my iPhone, i've never once had a stability issue...so it could be your back up as well.
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sadly both ios and android have users who bought a religion and not a phone.
I think you might find android more unstable than ios it often is before you learn what not to do so having a backup is a smart move and when you have your first bootloop don't panic just hit xda and find out what you did wrong (yeah it's going to happen and it's going to be your own fault)
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Hope I've helped inform you a bit, and sorry if i've made any mistakes about android.
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it most certanly did, thanks
If you own note II that's mean you had the best ever phone in the market. What is this people how speaking about metal or plastic. I will buy a phone or a knife. Also the martial of note II is very harden. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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jeriz said:
don't say that CM is just android with tweaks preinstalled its not and saying so in a android forum will get you flamed I know most roms are just as you described but saying it about CM is quite insulting to the devs, just a frendly pointer
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Oh, my mistake! I keep trying to find a better feature list, so I must be missing something haha. There is a reason it's so widely known, even to noobs like me!
kastafela said:
If you own note II that's mean you had the best ever phone in the market. What is this people how speaking about metal or plastic. I will buy a phone or a knife. Also the martial of note II is very harden. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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best ever phone is NOT the same as best in every way possible and not all people have the same preference. sure its a good phone nobody's saying it isn't but on the other hand s3, onex+ and iphone 5 are very very good phones too and I have no doubt that for some people the note and note2 is simply to massive
recklesslife85 said:
Currently have the iPhone 5 (which I'm kinder bored of already) sold my S3 for it. I bought it for £599 in the UK 32gig version but can sell it for £639 - Thinking of doing this. Back to my question, is the Note II worth it?
Its keep the iPhone 5 and get the Note 10.1 or sell the 5 and get the Note II
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I wouldnt sell the iphone 5. I would add a little more money and buy the note 2 instead of the note 10.1. The note 2 is the most amazing device ive ever had (ipad and galaxy S3 being both second). But the iphone 5 is also great and has great value.
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I keep reading keep iphone keep iphone.. Neither of you realize that once you get used to the 5.55" screen you are not able to go back to anything smaller.. You become a big screen adict.. I don't know how many of you are or were galaxy note 1 owners but if you were you know what I'm talking about..
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msedek said:
I keep reading keep iphone keep iphone.. Neither of you realize that once you get used to the 5.55" screen you are not able to go back to anything smaller.. You become a big screen adict.. I don't know how many of you are or were galaxy note 1 owners but if you were you know what I'm talking about..
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I was a galaxy note 1 owner and yes it's hard to get back to a smaller screen but with time you'll get use to it again. The note 2 isn't the only great smart phone out there by the way. But it depends on the OP it's just a matter of choice. Note 2 is fantastic and now we've just received the update for multiwindow multitasking.
jeriz said:
it is sad that cm won't be going n2 but its not a dealbreaker there will probably be akop and many custom tw roms to choose from and don't forget kernel development and probably miui too, who knows it might even get ubuntu
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That sucks! :crying: I just read this:
" I’ll stay away from all exynos powered phones as long as there is no proper support from samsung in form of documentation and sourcecode (especially userspace) to get aosp properly working on it. "
- CyanogenMod/Team Hacksung developer codeworkx
I may have to look at the LG Optimus G or the next Nexus phone.
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That sucks! :crying: I just read this:
" I’ll stay away from all exynos powered phones as long as there is no proper support from samsung in form of documentation and sourcecode (especially userspace) to get aosp properly working on it. "
- CyanogenMod/Team Hacksung developer codeworkx
I may have to look at the LG Optimus G or the next Nexus phone.
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I don't care about that.. Cyanogenmod can not cover the gn2 features with plain vanilla android.. Multi view its a so long awaited feature.. Smart stay and many others tw features that cyanogenmod will plain lack..
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I never cared for CM, I do respect their work though...
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I am using a HTC One X I received for free but have an upgrade burning in my pocket. I am weighing my options right now between a Nexus 4, LG Optimus G, and a Samsung Note II for AT&T. I never considered the Note II until recently when a co-worker got his. I read reviews and watched vids on various phones and everyone makes the phone out to be like its the size of Texas. After using it for a bit, pocketing it, playing with it, etc the size is not an issue unless you have some seriously dainty hands. While the screen quality is amazing on my HOX that massive screen on the Note is calling me like a Siren. If I get one I don't think I will be able to go down to a smaller screen once I am used to it
Anyways, my question is regarding future development as I am always flashing ROMs. I read last month that the Cyanogen team will no longer support Samsung devices based on the Exynos chipset. Has this changed or what is the future outlook for ROM development on this phone? Is Samsung being more proactive about releasing documentation, code, drivers, etc to help the dev community? Will CM still come to the Note II just not officially from the CM team? Any thoughts?
I need me some AOSP on my phones so if development is in question I might pass.
Check out this link, things look promising!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...enmod-support-first-cm10-nightly-already-out/
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logicrulez said:
Check out this link, things look promising!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...enmod-support-first-cm10-nightly-already-out/
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Glad to see this! Thanks for posting the link.
High fives all around with this news. I'd say go for it. This is the first device I've used my upgrade for in a long time and not regretting it one bit. But in the future I probably won't be able to get another device with at least 5 inches of screen.
Awesome! Before I came back to this thread, I was browsing the international Note forums and saw that a nightly of CM 10 was released.
I am such a needy person as I want the cool features Samsung brings with the S Pen, pop out video, multitasking with multi-view, etc but with speedy updates and without Touchwiz, carrier bloat, etc.
:Sigh
This would be amazing if it happens:
International(ish) Note 2 w/ AT&T LTE support
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889855
SysAdmNj said:
High fives all around with this news. I'd say go for it. This is the first device I've used my upgrade for in a long time and not regretting it one bit. But in the future I probably won't be able to get another device with at least 5 inches of screen.
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Agreed. I hadn't upgraded myself in forever. The S2 was on another line.
Also great news to know its CM supported. Means AOKP may make an appearance... loved that ROM on my S2.
I wouldn't want cyanogenmod or aokp or any aosp based rom's on the note ii. Its heavily customized around the s-spen and you'd lose support for that if going with an aosp rom. The note ii is about being different, trying something different. The s-pen stylus for sure and all that goes with it, but also multi view to make use if that big beautiful display. Samsung lately has been good about toning down and streamlining touchwiz, its not nearly as visually intrusive or resource hogging as senseui. Its done tastefully. They do have some nice semi proprietary features like s beam. As long as they release updatea for the note ii now and then i am happy to stick with custom rom's based on the official rom. Just debloated, tweaked, streamlined, enhanced but at its core android with touchwiz and full hardware support, no strange little quirks or hacked drivers or something not quite working right, etc. The fun that comes with running an aosp based rom. The note 2 is top notch in performance and features and will have lots of community support for some time imho. I know several Android enthusiasts who have chosen the note 2 over other high end models. Itvsays something about the phone.
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I wouldn't want cyanogenmod or aokp or any aosp based rom's on the note ii. Its heavily customized around the s-spen and you'd lose support for that if going with an aosp rom. The note ii is about being different, trying something different. The s-pen stylus for sure and all that goes with it, but also multi view to make use if that big beautiful display. Samsung lately has been good about toning down and streamlining touchwiz, its not nearly as visually intrusive or resource hogging as senseui. Its done tastefully. They do have some nice semi proprietary features like s beam. As long as they release updatea for the note ii now and then i am happy to stick with custom rom's based on the official rom. Just debloated, tweaked, streamlined, enhanced but at its core android with touchwiz and full hardware support, no strange little quirks or hacked drivers or something not quite working right, etc. The fun that comes with running an aosp based rom. The note 2 is top notch in performance and features and will have lots of community support for some time imho. I know several Android enthusiasts who have chosen the note 2 over other high end models. Itvsays something about the phone.
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+1 AOKP was fun on the GS II, didn't like it on my One X. But for the Note, a major reason I bought it was all the S-Pen and TouchWiz stuff. I'll be sticking to stock based unless some of the pop up and side by side stuff makes its way to AOSP ROMs.
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I wouldn't want cyanogenmod or aokp or any aosp based rom's on the note ii. Its heavily customized around the s-spen and you'd lose support for that if going with an aosp rom. The note ii is about being different, trying something different. The s-pen stylus for sure and all that goes with it, but also multi view to make use if that big beautiful display. Samsung lately has been good about toning down and streamlining touchwiz, its not nearly as visually intrusive or resource hogging as senseui. Its done tastefully. They do have some nice semi proprietary features like s beam. As long as they release updatea for the note ii now and then i am happy to stick with custom rom's based on the official rom. Just debloated, tweaked, streamlined, enhanced but at its core android with touchwiz and full hardware support, no strange little quirks or hacked drivers or something not quite working right, etc. The fun that comes with running an aosp based rom. The note 2 is top notch in performance and features and will have lots of community support for some time imho. I know several Android enthusiasts who have chosen the note 2 over other high end models. Itvsays something about the phone.
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+1 AOKP was fun on the GS II, didn't like it on my One X. But for the Note, a major reason I bought it was all the S-Pen and TouchWiz stuff. I'll be sticking to stock based unless some of the pop up and side by side stuff makes its way to AOSP ROMs.
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Agree with the both of you. I just switched from a One X with CM10 to the Note II and both sentiments ring true. I miss some things from AOSP (mainly the lock screen) but Touch Wiz on this does the job perfectly, and it's needed for the S-Pen features which I am using more and more as I get comfortable with it. I've rooted to remove bloat and flashed the custom kernel available to mildly OC and UV it and that's about all I think I'll do. I'll probably try out Scrosler's ROM as I had it on my HOX a few times and was always happy with his work. And I definitely don't think I can go to anything smaller than 5'' after this, two months ago I would of thought I was crazy for thinking that. However this phone is so much more comfortable to wield for me than the original Note was and I love this thing.
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I am using a HTC One X I received for free but have an upgrade burning in my pocket. I am weighing my options right now between a Nexus 4, LG Optimus G, and a Samsung Note II for AT&T. I never considered the Note II until recently when a co-worker got his. I read reviews and watched vids on various phones and everyone makes the phone out to be like its the size of Texas. After using it for a bit, pocketing it, playing with it, etc the size is not an issue unless you have some seriously dainty hands. While the screen quality is amazing on my HOX that massive screen on the Note is calling me like a Siren. If I get one I don't think I will be able to go down to a smaller screen once I am used to it
Anyways, my question is regarding future development as I am always flashing ROMs. I read last month that the Cyanogen team will no longer support Samsung devices based on the Exynos chipset. Has this changed or what is the future outlook for ROM development on this phone? Is Samsung being more proactive about releasing documentation, code, drivers, etc to help the dev community? Will CM still come to the Note II just not officially from the CM team? Any thoughts?
I need me some AOSP on my phones so if development is in question I might pass.
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I honestly don't see any problems like your wondering about.
There is already developer interest..and I don't see interest stopping...
Now...if your just wanting a Nexus for the pushed upgrades that's one thing...but I for one would take a wait & see attitude about the LG...They have a very lack luster approach to updating anything on their lines.
As to the screen size...your quite right...going back to anything smaller would be a hindrance once you get used to the bigger screen...( for me at least it is )and when you do a side by side comparison...it clearly shows there is no comparison to it...You may find a little more detail with the smaller screens...but...a 1080P movie still looks exceptional on it. I love the looks given by guys with smaller sized phones take a look at mine then back to theirs...They usually make some dumb statement about needing a back pack to carry it around...lol...lol...lol..
I really like my Note...it is special...and when folks see you using it...they always ask to see it..and I have never seen any other phone that will cause this reaction from folks...
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glitchsys said:
I wouldn't want cyanogenmod or aokp or any aosp based rom's on the note ii. Its heavily customized around the s-spen and you'd lose support for that if going with an aosp rom. The note ii is about being different, trying something different. The s-pen stylus for sure and all that goes with it, but also multi view to make use if that big beautiful display. Samsung lately has been good about toning down and streamlining touchwiz, its not nearly as visually intrusive or resource hogging as senseui. Its done tastefully. They do have some nice semi proprietary features like s beam. As long as they release updatea for the note ii now and then i am happy to stick with custom rom's based on the official rom. Just debloated, tweaked, streamlined, enhanced but at its core android with touchwiz and full hardware support, no strange little quirks or hacked drivers or something not quite working right, etc. The fun that comes with running an aosp based rom. The note 2 is top notch in performance and features and will have lots of community support for some time imho. I know several Android enthusiasts who have chosen the note 2 over other high end models. Itvsays something about the phone.
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Totally agree.
"Touchwiz" is no longer bad on the Note 2. I WILL NOT be ROMing my Note 2. Ever. Things simply can't get faster and for the first time AOSP wouldn't add as many features as it would cause you to lose. The spen is bloody brilliant and the overall touchwiz experience on the note 2 is stellar. I'm on XDA with this device to hear about accessories and to help those that need Note 2 help.
My ROMing days are over as long as I have the Note 2 (probably Note 3,4,etc) as it's simply not needed anymore. Touchwiz brings too much to the table and is too feature rich/smooth to lose. 6h 45m battery life with 24h unplugged on LTE and 20% remaining? Man roms can't improve that and if they did, I wouldn't use or need it. Don't like ATT bloat? Go into the built in application manager un settings and disable anything you don't like or want. It's like it's not even there.
Dang I love this phone.
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Anyways, my question is regarding future development as I am always flashing ROMs. I read last month that the Cyanogen team will no longer support Samsung devices based on the Exynos chipset. Has this changed or what is the future outlook for ROM development on this phone? Is Samsung being more proactive about releasing documentation, code, drivers, etc to help the dev community? Will CM still come to the Note II just not officially from the CM team? Any thoughts?
I need me some AOSP on my phones so if development is in question I might pass.
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hmm
Honesty I'm little worried that development isn't going to shine for ATT version.
The reason I feel that way.
Being on sprint EVO , EVO3D , GS2 and Note2 their development was rocking week into release...heck weeks before release. Lots of developers stepped up with rom preview threads etc forums had great vibe.
ATT GN2 development doesn't appear to have strong development base.
If it wasn't for scrosler are development sub forum would still be a ghost town.
The bad news is that he returned his GN2 went with different device on Verizon.
Hopefully some Devs from GS3 upgrade to Note2 time will tell.
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Honesty I'm little worried that development isn't going to shine for ATT version.
The reason I feel that way.
Being on sprint EVO , EVO3D , GS2 and Note2 their development was rocking week into release...heck weeks before release. Lots of developers stepped up with rom preview threads etc forums had great vibe.
ATT GN2 development doesn't appear to have strong development base.
If it wasn't for scrosler are development sub forum would still be a ghost town.
The bad news is that he returned his GN2 went with different device on Verizon.
Hopefully some Devs from GS3 upgrade to Note2 time will tell.
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Word. :crying:
Ive been rocking the GS2 for almost 2yrs. Rooted within a week and will never like a stock device unless its aokp or cm (AOSP). I've been using PA for months now. My GN2 is supposed to arrive tomorrow and of course I wanted to root it but dont like dealing with all the bugs and instability that I experienced with the GS2. It was a slow show for the i777 as well for a while then it picked up really quick so I hope the same happens for the i317 only faster :good:
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Word. :crying:
Ive been rocking the GS2 for almost 2yrs. Rooted within a week and will never like a stock device unless its aokp or cm (AOSP). I've been using PA for months now. My GN2 is supposed to arrive tomorrow and of course I wanted to root it but dont like dealing with all the bugs and instability that I experienced with the GS2. It was a slow show for the i777 as well for a while then it picked up really quick so I hope the same happens for the i317 only faster :good:
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Right on.
You will be stoked on GN2 its a sweet device.
I didn't realize how different it would be moving to ATT device.....Forums have a East Coast - West coast feel.
Sprints development side of the pond had a couple head developers that took control with lots of How to threads Video demos etc.
Tars were put together fast , all safety nets were in place in a couple days
I just need to get use to my new playground Sprint dev forum days are over.
But hey, my data Speed is 100% better so its worth the move.
Let's hope we get a lot of leaks quickly like how our International model brethens are getting.
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Let's hope we get a lot of leaks quickly like how our International model brethens are getting.
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it's great that samsung starts to sell similar models with same cpu to the world, like iphone.
developer in the world can coop with each other. gs2 and Gs3 is a bad example.
I am not scared this is the best phone around.
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I am on a stock based debloated ROM right now and it is beastly. I am not sure why you guys are worried about AT&T
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Well, the SGN2 is running so well that I don't see what the custom ROMs can add to it at this moment!
I have replaced the Touchwiz UI with the ADW EX launcher + Circle launcher to fully customize my screens to my liking.
Now I have the best of both- full Samsung's cool features, including S-Pen features, and my style screens and customization.
I will monitor the Dev section for a while before I decide to root the phone or not.
This phone is definitely the king of all Android smartphones for now.
if samsung abandons this device for the galaxy s4 or whatever next year and drags their feet on releasing/leaking updates, the developers will move on to something else. a lot of us here upgrade to new phones at least once a year, especially if development is an issue
Please use this thread to discuss all other devices and comparisons.
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I'll go first. Staying with my note 2. Not giving up my stylus just yet. No other phone has impressed me enough to give up my GN2 just yet.
According to the commercials "The Next Big Thing is Already Here"....and I have it =D. I am totally content with my phone. I use the stylus daily, it is beyond convenient and productive. Contrary to what I suspected prior to buying my GN2, the size is just right for me. I have small hands but I do just fine with it; albeit I do get the occassional hand cramp from holding it; but that's because I rarely put it down I've been totally spoiled by the size, and couldn't imagine having a smaller screen. I was putting games on my Captivate for my lil one to play on, and I giggled...how did I live with that tiny screen. On the flip side I also couldn't imagine going any bigger, with that said I plan on keeping my Note 2 for a long time.
Im trying to decide between the S4 and the Note 3 whenever it comes out. I do love the larger screen size of the Note 2.
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I don't think I can ever go back to a smaller screen, so I'll most likely be getting the note 3.
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After you own a note 2,every other device looks so tiny. I'll just wait for the note 3.
Edit: WOW this thread is a sticky now,I think a sticky should be informative not a conversation.
Edit 2: no pun intended.
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Glad this thread is here. When I had my One X, every other thread was a comparison thread. Just mucked up the forums honestly.
Good idea Mod!
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After you own a note 2,every other device looks so tiny. I'll just wait for the note 3.
Edit: WOW this thread is a sticky now,I think a sticky should be informative not a conversation.
Edit 2: no pun intended.
Edit: some users don't bother looking at sticky threads. So you'll see more comparison threads.
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The HTC One has my attention, but I'm just not sure that I'm willing to part with my GN2 yet. The only thing that hacks me off about Samsung is their insistence on the cheap plastic finish.
The fit and finish of the HTC One may lure me in...I'll decide when I see it in person.
I would never go to another phone, so either way I will wait for note3 or if something bad happens to me phone I will just buy a new note2.
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I would never go to another phone, so either way I will wait for note3 or if something bad happens to me phone I will just buy a new note2.
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well hopefully the rumour about the note 3 having a LCD screen is false I rather have the AMOLED screen even if the reason for the LCD screen is better use of the S-pen.
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I would never go to another phone, so either way I will wait for note3 or if something bad happens to me phone I will just buy a new note2.
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Exactly, I love my Note 2 a lot, finally feel like I have a phone that is great and has what I want.
Just finished watching the first episode of the S IV launch event the new features seems really cool for it, but just as you said will wait to see what they do to the Note 3.
I think I'm sold on the S4, although I do love my Note 2. But... will a lot of the S4 features, software wise, is just a part of an updated OS or apps that we can use on the Note 2? That could potentially keep me here. But then again the 13mpx camera and 441dpi is very tempting.
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I think I'm sold on the S4, although I do love my Note 2. But... will a lot of the S4 features, software wise, is just a part of an updated OS or apps that we can use on the Note 2? That could potentially keep me here. But then again the 13mpx camera and 441dpi is very tempting.
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well most of the features that are on the s4 will be coming to the note 2 so the rumor goes with the 4.22 update but we will probably get the update when the note 3 comes out and it will have all those features and then some.
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I don't understand the "I hate the plastic' on the Samsung phone...
I ride a Triumph motorcycle that will do 150mph+ and it has a plastic body covering an awesome engine and frame and even better electronics ... JUST like my Samsung note 2 (or future galaxy 4)
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I'm Taking a pass on GS4 holding out for Note 3
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I don't understand the "I hate the plastic' on the Samsung phone...
I ride a Triumph motorcycle that will do 150mph+ and it has a plastic body covering an awesome engine and frame and even better electronics ... JUST like my Samsung note 2 (or future galaxy 4)
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The Speed Triple has plastic?
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I think I'm sold on the S4, although I do love my Note 2. But... will a lot of the S4 features, software wise, is just a part of an updated OS or apps that we can use on the Note 2? That could potentially keep me here. But then again the 13mpx camera and 441dpi is very tempting.
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Not in a million years. The S4 looks OK, but is in no way a replacement for the Note 2.
1 - I will never use any of those "features" on the S4. Like MKBHD mentioned on his S4 video, and I agree, the new features are attractive to people who are not very phone-literate. If you want to use different apps other than the standard ones, you'll lose them anyway, like the smart pause. I don't see myself using any of the new features they announced.
2 - The battery life is virtually guaranteed to suck when compared to the Note 2. If it's anything like the S3, which I owned and gladly sold within 2 months, there won't be ROMs or kernels good enough to make the battery last anywhere close to the Note 2. Unless you need the absolutely fastest phone in the world, you don't need an S4. The processor is gonna run your battery to the ground with very little use, I'm sure.
3 - Having been a completely satisfied Note 2 owner for about 3 months, I think the S4 is too small! Well, anything else is too small for that matter.
4 - No S-Pen = FAIL. The S-Pen is one of the highlights of the Note 2 and I now expect all phones to have it (OK, that's unrealistic, but it would be really nice!).
As many users here said, I don't think I'll ever buy anything other than Notes from now on. I'll wait for the Note 3 or 4 depending on how excited I get when they come out.
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Main reason am gonna stick to Note2 is for Exynos processor.
I have used International version of S2 which had dual core exynos processor than S2lte with snapdragon and it sucked.
Then comes the North American S3 (big update in snapdragon processer), but still was behind in smoothness comparing international version of S3 having exynos quadcore porcesser.
And comes the beast Note2 with exynos processor and 2gb Ram as addon, nothing can beat smoothness of this phone.
Snapdragon qualcomm processer has got better, but for me are still behind in smoothness comparing to exynos.
Hoping Note3 to come with exynos like of Note2, orelse I will have to go with international version at cost of no LTE.
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I just picked up a note 2 last week and really like it,havent even looked at my s3 since lol..i will buy the s4 as well though just to check it out..one can never have enough tech around :thumbup:
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When are we expecting this to drop for our device? Ready for our device to be more snappy as my old n5 with 5.0 is much faster than my Note 4.
Is there going to be an development for this device in time? I know it is tough for some Devs to get their hands on these phones so I didn't know if that was why there is basically nothing, or if there is some other reason.
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When are we expecting this to drop for our device? Ready for our device to be more snappy as my old n5 with 5.0 is much faster than my Note 4.
Is there going to be an development for this device in time? I know it is tough for some Devs to get their hands on these phones so I didn't know if that was why there is basically nothing, or if there is some other reason.
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I haven't been keeping up with Lolipop release dates or anything so I couldn't say when that will come out. But I look forward to it... I hope. LOL
There's several reasons for the lack of dev's for our Sprint Note 4 and that has been discussed already here in the forum. The speed difference between the Note 4 and the Nexus 5 could very well be due to the lack of software overlay and features on the Nexus device compared to the Note 4 which leaves plenty of processing/memory resources available to run a much lighter software. This is a given. But in reality I don't see much any lag on the Note 4 so I'm perfectly fine with it. I would literally get depressed and panic if I had a vanilla Nexus device because I've come to love all the features and advantages of the Note series phones. It's a good thing we have a choice in the Android world!
Note 4 wont see it until early 2015.
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Note 4 wont see it until early 2015.
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For the Korean or international version. The Sprint variant will probably get it in q2.
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For the Korean or international version. The Sprint variant will probably get it in q2.
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With it being a Sprint push, most likely
My guess is middle of february.
So outside of the material design language and project Volta (think I got that right), what else are we missing from 5.0?
IMO...feels like another push just to get the latest version of Android but due to TW, I don't think we'll see much difference.
Judging from what I have seen on my old n5 as far as the difference in responsiveness and snappiness, this will be a huge update, TW or not. 5.0 is about twice as smooth as 4.4.4 on my n5.
Fair. I was rocking the developer preview on my N5 before I got rid of it.
Just as others have said, Ive read the same on sam mobile early 2015.
and by then Google will announce Android 5.5 Lolita