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Hello everyone, I'm just posting about my experience with the iphone 5. I bought a white one on the release date and put my trusty S3 in a drawer for a back up. We'll I didn't even last three days before I ran back to At&t and got my S3 reactivated. The iphone is nice and all that but it's too simple for my taste, I need to be able to do what I want when I want and I felt severely handicapped with the iphone 5. Not saying it's a bad phone but it's definitely not for me. Anyone else had a similar experience?
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Not too many Android users are willing to sink that kind of coin for a phone to simply try it out. Especially in this forum since we have the latest Samsung phone. Good to see you come back. I personally could never go back to Apple. Just sucks because I own a Apple TV and MacBook Pro. Apples ecosystem is great. Wish Google got with the times when it comes to cross platform support. More specifically I miss air play, ability to control all my home media with my phone etc.
And I know dlna/all cast is available but Google needs to implement something in their next OS that smokes Apples.
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I've done both android and iphone in the past. I got my wife the iPhone 5 and I do like it. I had the 4 and while it's not a huge leap in design and features the improvements are nice and it is a very smooth experience.
And for some reason it's wicked fast on the net. I like my sgs3 but don't see a fault with the iPhone 5. Phones are phones and each one brings something unique to a user
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I'm in the same boat as far as the Apple tv and macbook so I can understand where you're coming from. I might just keep it as a backup phone in case something happens to my S3...
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Not surprised that you came back to the S3
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still using the iphone 5. loving the stellar battery life.
might have to put up the s3 on ebay soon

expertzero1 said:
still using the iphone 5. loving the stellar battery life.
might have to put up the s3 on ebay soon
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Can you print to a mobile BT printer from it?

expertzero1 said:
still using the iphone 5. loving the stellar battery life.
might have to put up the s3 on ebay soon
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My wife is looking at the iPhone 5, she's worried about battery life though(she works about 10 hours a day with no way to charge her phone).
How has your battery life been so far?
Thanks

only thing i miss about iphone life is the all the accessories.
car integration, sound docs, .....
but, all that goes out the window with the new lighting adapter.

Android gv you more freedom
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At least we know 5 millions new iphone 5 users disagree with you in this week alone
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don't know how anyone can argue that the iphone is not a good phone.
i like the S3 for the flexibility and total control over the phone that it allows.

I've been reading nothing but bad reviews from customers about the battery life of iphone 5. Yeah, all these main sites are comparing the battery life with the RAZOR MAXX but then in the comments section people are always complaining saying the claims aren't true.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/09/20/iphone-5-battery-life-reviews/
I'm guessing the people having the short battery life are running the phone a lot with LTE.

TBayTom said:
I've been reading nothing but bad reviews from customers about the battery life of iphone 5. Yeah, all these main sites are comparing the battery life with the RAZOR MAXX but then in the comments section people are always complaining saying the claims aren't true.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/09/20/iphone-5-battery-life-reviews/
I'm guessing the people having the short battery life are running the phone a lot with LTE.
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User error
I have an ATT gs3 and also the iphone 5 im testing out. The iphone 5 has amazing battery life. Was able to get 14 hours of standby and 9 hours 30 min of usage out of it yesterday with 21% remaining for the day. And its suppose to be the same battery life as the chip is the same one powering both.

yidan82 said:
Hello everyone, I'm just posting about my experience with the iphone 5. I bought a white one on the release date and put my trusty S3 in a drawer for a back up. We'll I didn't even last three days before I ran back to At&t and got my S3 reactivated. The iphone is nice and all that but it's too simple for my taste, I need to be able to do what I want when I want and I felt severely handicapped with the iphone 5. Not saying it's a bad phone but it's definitely not for me. Anyone else had a similar experience?
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Yes, sort of.
I switched to the GS3 from a 4S about three months ago. Took a bit of adjusting to say the least. I held on to the 4S for almost a month before I sold it, thinking it was enough to wean off of iOS. I now definitely prefer the S3 for general device usage, but I miss the many apps I'd purchased on the Apple app store for the past three years, so I started looking for deals on used 4S. On iPhone 5 launch day I bought a like new 4S from a guy who just upgraded to the 5, for half of what I sold my 4S for couple months back lol. Now I can switch between them as I please.
Other than some of the apps I'm missing, it's kind of hard to go back. I think Apple is too far in the simplicity end of the scale. Just an example, iPhone gives you ZERO ability to change anything on the camera, not even change to a lower resolution. S3, never mind that I can adjust things like metering method and ISO sensitivity, I can put those control shortcuts right on the screen.

yidan82 said:
Hello everyone, I'm just posting about my experience with the iphone 5. I bought a white one on the release date and put my trusty S3 in a drawer for a back up. We'll I didn't even last three days before I ran back to At&t and got my S3 reactivated. The iphone is nice and all that but it's too simple for my taste, I need to be able to do what I want when I want and I felt severely handicapped with the iphone 5. Not saying it's a bad phone but it's definitely not for me. Anyone else had a similar experience?
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Do you have an absolutely ridiculous amount of spare money or something?
You could have just given me $700 and I'd have told you the iPhone is poop.

The battery life is far from stellar and it still doesn't have widgets among other things I'm just not impressed with it.the new maps suck I had to create a new account for the App Store just to download YouTube and it forces you to add your credit card info before you can even download free apps ill never get of my s3 for the i5 it's just less of a phone IMHO
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aimetti said:
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I have an ATT gs3 and also the iphone 5 im testing out. The iphone 5 has amazing battery life. Was able to get 14 hours of standby and 9 hours 30 min of usage out of it yesterday with 21% remaining for the day. And its suppose to be the same battery life as the chip is the same one powering both.
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Sweet good to know, my gf is getting one once her contract is up. Galaxy S3 does a great job with battery life when you consider the much larger/brighter screen as well as the widgets and number of processes it has running compared to the iphone 5. I couldn't leave to switch to the iphone 5, way too many features lost and I'm spoiled with the bigger screen. iPhone 5 is marketed towards simplicity for the older generation transitioning to smart phones and people who don't like to mess around with their phone too much. Multitasking is absolutely terrible with the iphone, but the ios6 Siri is pretty cool I must say. Great improvement there.

I have both s3 and ip5. Been switching between them depending where I go because I don't have a case yet for the ip5 so I have been carefull with it. Both are great phones. My biggest complaint is you can't change the black background menus and white text on the s3. I almost throw my s3 at the pavement everytime I get a call outside in the daylight. I have to cover the screen with both hands just to see who is callng! With the ip5 I can see it easily even with sunglasses because it has white backgrounds and black text. Everyone talks about how customizable android phones are but this simple change to invert the color scheme is near impossible to do. Im just going to keep the s3 around to play with but the ip5 is going to be my daily driver.

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I have both s3 and ip5. Been switching between them depending where I go because I don't have a case yet for the ip5 so I have been carefull with it. Both are great phones. My biggest complaint is you can't change the black background menus and white text on the s3. I almost throw my s3 at the pavement everytime I get a call outside in the daylight. I have to cover the screen with both hands just to see who is callng! With the ip5 I can see it easily even with sunglasses because it has white backgrounds and black text. Everyone talks about how customizable android phones are but this simple change to invert the color scheme is near impossible to do. Im just going to keep the s3 around to play with but the ip5 is going to be my daily driver.
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Yeah, it's a little hard to read. If you have auto brightness enabled, it should make it a lot easier to read. As for white backgrounds, there's got to be a white theme out there you can apply to your GS3 to make it easier to read.

Need an honest and unbiased answer

I'm sort of the local android advocate where I go to school, and I've convinced a close friend to purchase the note 2 when his contract expires soon. He's coming from an iphone and I've promised him so many things that android delivers that Apple fails to do. In my personal opinion, Samsung is the way to go; they make the fastest phones with best optimization and I'd be hard pressed to purchase anything by any other manufacturer (lg, htc, motorolla, etc). Also in my opinion, the note 2 is by FAR the best phone out now (even more so than the nexus 4, go look at the massive amount of problems they're experiencing). I recommend him the note 2 because he live design and I think he'll appreciate the spen coupled with the note 2s great engineering. However, there's some things I truly need to know. I don't want to set him up with an android phone and have a bad experience thus shutting him out to the idea altogether, the last thing I want is him running to the iPhone 5 so, can you guys answer me these.
1: even with jelly bean, are there hiccups? Freezes in touchwiz ever?
2: are apps well optimized? Smooth, with no crashing?
3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi?
4: is the battery life REALLY that phenomenal?
5: how accurate and responsive is the spen. The model in the store left much to be desired. It was very unresponsive.
6: are there build defects with this device often? Sammy normally does a good job producing their products
7: camera quality/speaker loudness?
Or any issues in general that would put a newcomer off. I'd really like his conversion to android to be flawless, thus beginning my slow progression into leading android to world domination! Thanks in advance!
Edit: oops! Thought this was qa! Move this to the question section please
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The only thing I see turning someone off this phone is the size. If it is too big, steer them to the DNA, GS3 or One X+ (though battery life will suffer with those compared to the GN2). All your listed potential concerns are non existent for me. This coming from a three generation Nexus user.
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I'm sort of the local android advocate where I go to school, and I've convinced a close friend to purchase the note 2 when his contract expires soon. He's coming from an iphone and I've promised him so many things that android delivers that Apple fails to do. In my personal opinion, Samsung is the way to go; they make the fastest phones with best optimization and I'd be hard pressed to purchase anything by any other manufacturer (lg, htc, motorolla, etc). Also in my opinion, the note 2 is by FAR the best phone out now (even more so than the nexus 4, go look at the massive amount of problems they're experiencing). I recommend him the note 2 because he live design and I think he'll appreciate the spen coupled with the note 2s great engineering. However, there's some things I truly need to know. I don't want to set him up with an android phone and have a bad experience thus shutting him out to the idea altogether, the last thing I want is him running to the iPhone 5 so, can you guys answer me these.
1: even with jelly bean, are there hiccups? Freezes in touchwiz ever?
2: are apps well optimized? Smooth, with no crashing?
3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi?
4: is the battery life REALLY that phenomenal?
5: how accurate and responsive is the spen. The model in the store left much to be desired. It was very unresponsive.
6: are there build defects with this device often? Sammy normally does a good job producing their products
7: camera quality/speaker loudness?
Or any issues in general that would put a newcomer off. I'd really like his conversion to android to be flawless, thus beginning my slow progression into leading android to world domination! Thanks in advance!
Edit: oops! Thought this was qa! Move this to the question section please
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I've had the note 2 for a little over 2 weeks and I can answer a few of these for you.
3. The screen is amazing. My sister bought the iphone 5 and we compared screen resolution. I assume since the note is so large it doesn't need to be close to your face so it looks much better.
4. I let my battery go from 100% to 7% and got great battery life. It lasted over 24hrs. Better than any device I've owned other than my iPad. But I dont call and text on my iPad all day either.
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5. I've only used the Spen a few times but it is very handy, and I'm left handed which you can change in the settings. The model is always garbage when they have the pen just hanging there like a detached limb It's much better in 'real life'.
7. Camera is great. I used it to record video and I felt like I was being biased about how great it was, but after uploading the video to facebook people commented wanting to know what camera I was using.
I haven't used touchwiz since I've had this phone. I use Nova Launcher which is great on rhis device.
I think the Note 2 is a great choice for your friend. I was a huge iphone fan and now I wouldn't take anything for my GN2.
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MultiLockOn said:
I'm sort of the local android advocate where I go to school, and I've convinced a close friend to purchase the note 2 when his contract expires soon. He's coming from an iphone and I've promised him so many things that android delivers that Apple fails to do. In my personal opinion, Samsung is the way to go; they make the fastest phones with best optimization and I'd be hard pressed to purchase anything by any other manufacturer (lg, htc, motorolla, etc). Also in my opinion, the note 2 is by FAR the best phone out now (even more so than the nexus 4, go look at the massive amount of problems they're experiencing). I recommend him the note 2 because he live design and I think he'll appreciate the spen coupled with the note 2s great engineering. However, there's some things I truly need to know. I don't want to set him up with an android phone and have a bad experience thus shutting him out to the idea altogether, the last thing I want is him running to the iPhone 5 so, can you guys answer me these.
1: even with jelly bean, are there hiccups? Freezes in touchwiz ever?
2: are apps well optimized? Smooth, with no crashing?
3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi?
4: is the battery life REALLY that phenomenal?
5: how accurate and responsive is the spen. The model in the store left much to be desired. It was very unresponsive.
6: are there build defects with this device often? Sammy normally does a good job producing their products
7: camera quality/speaker loudness?
Or any issues in general that would put a newcomer off. I'd really like his conversion to android to be flawless, thus beginning my slow progression into leading android to world domination! Thanks in advance!
Edit: oops! Thought this was qa! Move this to the question section please
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I waited for the Note 2 for over a year and am very happy with it.
1. TouchWiz is smooth, very smooth. No problems in that respect.
2. The apps I use all work very well and i have many. A few admittedly can seem "out of focus" on the large screen. Ver few!
3. The screen is brilliant. Reading small text is the test and it is crisp and clear, the blacks are as black as night CHOOSE A SCREEN PROTECTOR CAREFULLY!! I have a Copter screen protector on now and it ruins the display quality. Especially text. I am trying to fing en alternative now.
4. The battery is truly phenomenal.I had a couple of busy days at work and so only had time to use it intensively for about 12 hours over a two day period. The battery lasted 2 days 5 hours!!
5. The S-pen is accurate, very useful and a is designers and photo editing nerds (me) dream. That's why i skipped the sII and sIII. It is however also very useful for many other things as well. Navigating web pages and screen menus without zooming in to 400% saves lots of time.
6. Some users have mentioned build defects such as the "creaky" back cover. I came from an SI so this neither bothers me nor worries me. (My SI now works better and faster than it did when i bought it two and a half years ago.) This creakiness will bother someone coming from iphone, The plastic feel will also bother him/her. You will have explain that it is to keep the weight to a minimum.
7a. The picture quality is very good in the right conditions. As with any camera you need to know its limitations. The camera is not as fast as the camera on the iphone. In my experience the iphone camera opens and focuses quicker. Once the Note 2 has focused shats are taken as quick as on the iphone. This is the only thing that makes me jealous of iphone users.
7b. Speaker volume and quality is excellent.

You have many questions but at the end of the day, your friend will be the judge.
I will tell you this. I personally don't know anybody I've shown my Note II who was not impressed. I actually converted one of my co-workers over from an iPhone 4. He was AMAZED at what he was messing. He is absolutely in love with his device and learning more every day.
You won't be able to stop him from having a bad experience. Let him buy the phone, be there for him if he has any questions, and then watch him fall in love with the device. Watch him get giddy when he plugs in his headphones and his most used audio apps pop up. Watch him as uses apps such* as Smart Toggler, Tasker, or other Touch Wiz tweaks to automate toggling WiFi, GPS, Data, and Sound.
There is nothing an iPhone 5 can offer him that he can't find on the Note 2 except iTunes. Then again...Google Play is pretty freakin' impressive. Show him how to remotely install apps from his PC. Make him factory restore his device and then log in to see all his settings + apps restored automatically!
Basically show him the strengths of Android. The Galaxy Note 2 will MORE than speak for itself.

I can answer all of your questions in favor of the Note 2. The deal breaker may just be Android. When you are used to one OS for so long, especially one that never changes it can be hard to make the switch. Android can be overwhelming to someone who is accustomed to the simplicity of iOS. But if he's a little nerdy, or just likes to customize stuff he will dig it.
Either way, he can return it if he doesn't like it. If he gets it from Best Buy there's no re-stocking fee even, and I think you have 30 days...
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1: I experience hiccups occasionally and freezes rarely but its not like a freeze then fc....its more like a slow response
2: Haven't had any problems yet
3: I cam from a s2 skyrocket and the screen is beautiful to me.
4: the battery life REALLY is phenomenal! (just put your words in the right places)
5: For me, the spen is accurate but responsive is really subjective. There was a 1/4 to 1/2 second delay for the Spen (for me atleast and maybe its app related...I don't use the pen much)
6: I havent found any build defects but I'd imagine it will seem of less quality due to the fact the battery is removable and thus the back could have some creaks. The phone doesnt have any flex in it though....but I havent tried very hard to find flex
7: Camera and speakers are ample for me

MultiLockOn said:
3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi?
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are you serious with this one?
there are 40 inches HDtvs with the same resolution of this 5.5 inches cellphone screen... i personally think anything higher than this on a screen this small, your eyes can't see the differences.
As for the battery, i usually do 3 days on a full charge with my Note 2, its an extreme upgrade from my old iphone 3gs (1 day only)
Unlike my iphone, none of the apps crashes.

rotule said:
are you serious with this one?
there are 40 inches HDtvs with the same resolution of this 5.5 inches cellphone screen... i personally think anything higher than this on a screen this small, your eyes can't see the differences.
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Hey great 1st post & throwing you 1st thanks

The only reservation I have with the Note II, is the battery. I realize that there are so many people reporting these outrageously amazing battery times (usually without stating HOW/WHAT exactly they are doing on their phones and how they are managing to achieve these phenomenal battery lives) but I, unfortunately, am not one of those people who have experiences these unheard of battery statistics.
Grant it, standby time has been unrivaled. I've gotten almost 38 hours of battery life on my Note II. However, the most important metric—which is your screen-on time—was less than four hours... many not have even been three hours. I've seen many people reporting 24+ hours of battery with 10+ hours of screen-on time. Again, not sure how people are doing this. I have replaced my old iPod touch with the Note II. The Note I and II are the only phones I've ever had that were TRUE iPod/iPhone music player replacements. If I listen to just a bit of music, look at a few videos stored on my phone, play a few games for a little bit, and add a bit of web browsing to the equation... I can EASILY be down to about 50% battery after only 2.5-3 hours. Nowhere near what other people are reporting. Also, in many professional reviews, it's almost a toss-up with reported battery life. Half of the reviews state the ridiculously crazy amount of battery time others have reported on here, yet the other half are in my camp, stating that the battery is only as good as what you'd expect from a phone like the Note II and it isn't anything to write home about.
So that's the only thing I'd caution someone on. Either you'll be lucky and get the crazy great battery/phone or you'll end up with the red headed stepchild like I apparently have. Beyond that, I can't say anything bad about this phone.

1: even with jelly bean, are there hiccups? Freezes in touchwiz ever? no not ever with stock kernel, how ever u throw in note2kernel asylum edition and nothing ever hiccups. NOTHING
2: are apps well optimized? Smooth, with no crashing? this is the one problem with android, yes apps all function flawlessly. however we are not apple. they only have to make a few mods bc well they only make it for iphones ipads etc. so the support is a bit better i would say in that term. but apps on android are amazing. the open sourceness of things is fantastic.
3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi? NO COMMENT. i honestly believe the iphone screen is one of the best there is. but the sheer size and quality, ( specs wise it may not be as good as iphone) but i like it so much more than the iphones.
4: is the battery life REALLY that phenomenal? YES yes and YESSSSSSSSS. throw in undervolt and ul be all day. u can easily reach 12 hours screen time ON with HEAVVVVYYYYYY use.
5: how accurate and responsive is the spen. The model in the store left much to be desired. It was very unresponsive.? this all depends, after kernel updates and custom rom, there is a small small window of lag behind it but its nothing that will change or make it worse. i think it is phenomenal to be honest with you
6: are there build defects with this device often? Sammy normally does a good job producing their products- i can testify i had a defective unit. 12 days later i went to att and got a new one. my speaker jack was bad, i could not plug it in bc it popped right back out. my usb cable also came lose very very easy. new one i got is absolutely perfect.
7: camera quality/speaker loudness? camera... there i no other like it. the pictures are INSTANT and quality, well i dont need my camera anymore. speaker is loud, but they really couldve used better speakers for this beast.

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Hey great 1st post & throwing you 1st thanks
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Still wondering if this is sarcasm
BTW as an ex-iphone user, the only thing i miss is the rocker switch to switch from loud to Vibrate and vice-versa of course i think all the +values are worth this loss but i hope samsung will be able to so some kind of rocker switch like this someday (and make it configurable so we can so wathever we want with it )

Dr. Evo said:
The only reservation I have with the Note II, is the battery. I realize that there are so many people reporting these outrageously amazing battery times (usually without stating HOW/WHAT exactly they are doing on their phones and how they are managing to achieve these phenomenal battery lives) but I, unfortunately, am not one of those people who have experiences these unheard of battery statistics.
Grant it, standby time has been unrivaled. I've gotten almost 38 hours of battery life on my Note II. However, the most important metric—which is your screen-on time—was less than four hours... many not have even been three hours. I've seen many people reporting 24+ hours of battery with 10+ hours of screen-on time. Again, not sure how people are doing this. I have replaced my old iPod touch with the Note II. The Note I and II are the only phones I've ever had that were TRUE iPod/iPhone music player replacements. If I listen to just a bit of music, look at a few videos stored on my phone, play a few games for a little bit, and add a bit of web browsing to the equation... I can EASILY be down to about 50% battery after only 2.5-3 hours. Nowhere near what other people are reporting. Also, in many professional reviews, it's almost a toss-up with reported battery life. Half of the reviews state the ridiculously crazy amount of battery time others have reported on here, yet the other half are in my camp, stating that the battery is only as good as what you'd expect from a phone like the Note II and it isn't anything to write home about.
So that's the only thing I'd caution someone on. Either you'll be lucky and get the crazy great battery/phone or you'll end up with the red headed stepchild like I apparently have. Beyond that, I can't say anything bad about this phone.
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your battery life is worse than normal, but not to much. 2.5 - 3 hour screen on for 50% battery is normal, if everything is on.
you can do better if you want to. but for a normal user who don't know what is wake lock, kernel, it's fine.

ScooterG said:
All your listed potential concerns are non existent for me.
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This phone actually sucks. Freezes, terrible battery life and screen is tooooo small.

I love my Note 2. I, like most everyone in this thread have had no issues with this device at all. I don't use TouchWiz though as I prefer Nova for the customization benefits. I came from a GS2 and for me it was a huge upgrade. The most deterring thing is the screen size, for me it isn't a big deal. My fiancee (she's only 4'10") loves to use my phone and the size doesn't bother her. Granted she has to use 2 hands but it's worth it. It's a great device and will only get better. Battery life is pretty good, but I also don't get these crazy reports of 10+ hours of screen time and 1+ days till dead on top of the screen time. I average 4 hours with just about everything turned off except Mobile Data, WiFi and sync. Disabled most of the pre-installed bloatware and I do have a live background. The S-Pen is so so for me, in certain apps it's a little slow but others it's spot on with where I draw. Haven't cared to adjust the pen itself since I don't use it all that much. All in all I am very impressed and highly recommend this phone.

I think getting the crazy 1 day + battery life has a lot to do with the way you customize the phone settings.
I used to blow through the entire battery in 4 hrs as well but since learning more about different roms/kernels and other things that drain your battery I have managed to stretch it to 1 day 14 hrs with similar heavy usage
Like I said you have to get the settings just right. Also in my experience these 1 days + between charges are only attainable when im at home on weekends and have wifi on 24 hrs a day. LTE is a huge battery drain not to mention that it has not been implemented everywhere so you also lose battery when the phone toggles between LTE and whatever else is available at the time.
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I'm sort of the local android advocate where I go to school, and I've convinced a close friend to purchase the note 2 when his contract expires soon. He's coming from an iphone and I've promised him so many things that android delivers that Apple fails to do. In my personal opinion, Samsung is the way to go; they make the fastest phones with best optimization and I'd be hard pressed to purchase anything by any other manufacturer (lg, htc, motorolla, etc). Also in my opinion, the note 2 is by FAR the best phone out now (even more so than the nexus 4, go look at the massive amount of problems they're experiencing). I recommend him the note 2 because he live design and I think he'll appreciate the spen coupled with the note 2s great engineering. However, there's some things I truly need to know. I don't want to set him up with an android phone and have a bad experience thus shutting him out to the idea altogether, the last thing I want is him running to the iPhone 5 so, can you guys answer me these.
1: even with jelly bean, are there hiccups? Freezes in touchwiz ever?
2: are apps well optimized? Smooth, with no crashing?
3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi?
4: is the battery life REALLY that phenomenal?
5: how accurate and responsive is the spen. The model in the store left much to be desired. It was very unresponsive.
6: are there build defects with this device often? Sammy normally does a good job producing their products
7: camera quality/speaker loudness?
Or any issues in general that would put a newcomer off. I'd really like his conversion to android to be flawless, thus beginning my slow progression into leading android to world domination! Thanks in advance!
Edit: oops! Thought this was qa! Move this to the question section please
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1) I have yet to experience anything wrong with touch wiz ui. Never had a freeze or shut down and I have quite a few apps installed as well.
2) Apps. There are (I imagine) apps that aren't as good as others. Of all the apps that I use/used I haven't had any that have even slowed the note 2 down.
3) the screen is absolutely awesome. There have been tests done that compare this to the iPhone 5 and they are dead even.
4) battery life is the best I've seen on any smartphone period. I've had lots of phones including an iPhone.
5) The spen is very accurate. Dead on. The only gripe I have about the spen is when you hover it shows up on the screen. I can hold my spen about 2-2.5"away from the screen and it pops up. I wish it had to be held just s little closer before recognizing it.
6) mine is built very solid and feels strong in my hand (s). Some units were reported to have usb issues not fitting tightly and even falling out when you plug it in. I haven't experienced that. But one would take it back for a new one should they get a unit with that issue. No squeaks, noises or moans out of this thing.
7) speaker loudness is good enough. Camera quality is superb with so many options coming on the stock unit. The are tons of other camera apps that are available to suit your fancy as well.
I haven't had anything wrong with my unit. No speed calls call clarity is fantastic. Easily heard and the pression on the other line never complains they can't hear me or otherwise.
If your friend had even a similar experience with his potential until that I've had he'd be thanking you for years to come. There are so many options and customizations you just can't get with iphones that are easily available for Android. I jumped from the Apple bandwagon to android a little over a year now and can't believe it took me that long.
One recommendation tho, when you both get your new note2's get a FlyGrip put on it. It'll allow for true one-handed operation without jeopardizing losing control of your device and dropping it. Plus it serves as a nice stand. In my opinion the FlyGrip is a must have for phones and tablets alike.
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MultiLockOn said:
I don't want to set him up with an android phone and have a bad experience thus shutting him out to the idea altogether, the last thing I want is him running to the iPhone 5 so, can you guys answer me these.
1: even with jelly bean, are there hiccups? Freezes in touchwiz ever?
2: are apps well optimized? Smooth, with no crashing?
3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi?
4: is the battery life REALLY that phenomenal?
5: how accurate and responsive is the spen. The model in the store left much to be desired. It was very unresponsive.
6: are there build defects with this device often? Sammy normally does a good job producing their products
7: camera quality/speaker loudness?
Or any issues in general that would put a newcomer off. I'd really like his conversion to android to be flawless, thus beginning my slow progression into leading android to world domination! Thanks in advance!
Edit: oops! Thought this was qa! Move this to the question section please
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First off...you need to understand something...folks can have a bad experience..regardless of wither the phone is perfect for you and others or not. You need to really see what he does with his I-phone before trying to convince him to change. Many I-phone lovers have a great deal invested in them not only for the phone and apps..but other apple products,and if he is one of these types..chances are his experiences will differ greatly than someone who isn't so invested..If he is only used to using I-Phones and uses a Mac instead of a PC...has Apple TV..and I-pads..it is going to be a hard sell..
Now..if he isn't one of these types..then you still need to see what he likes and dislikes about the phone he is currently using and show him the differences in a good working model of the Note II...there are many stores that seem to have some non-functioning demo units that these units that have been screwed up by folks playing with them while on display..I've see several like this..so..just beware...You need to find out what he wants to do with his phone and what his expectations are....Now to your questions..
1) Some times..just as with any phone that is on the market..Samsung is not immune to this...nor is Apple...and for anyone here to say otherwise is biased ignorant or just a hater of Apple.
2) For the most part...yes...but that is not to say you or anyone else won't get a bad one from time to time...wither it is coming from Apple's app store or Google's...Apps for Android has to span so many different versions of phones as opposed to Apple apps...so some that work flawlessly on one persons phone may not on another's phone.This is why some say Apple is better...and Android is fragmented..I can say it's a lot better today than just a year ago..Apple is not immune to having bad apps it does and has happened..
3) Absolutely it is...and it is one of the main selling points of the phone..It is night and day compared to any of the smaller screens out there including the I-phone 5.
4) Yes & no...it can be or it can be average...or in some cases dismal...and a lot is going to depend on the individual...and a-lot is going to depend on the phone itself. I can say this..I've had much better luck with mine than some have and have better luck than with any other Android phone I have used in the past..The nice thing about it though..is this forum and the folks here that go out of their way to help those with issues...unlike the standard answer one will get on the majority of I-phone forums and that is to take it back..
5) Like I said in the beginning...you can't always measure a phone by what you see as a demo unit..Way too many little hands doing their best to bork it..but mine is very responsive.
6) You will have defects in any manufacturers phone...including Samsung or Apple. Both are for the most part exceptional phones..Some folks have to have a 100% perfect product and will scream bloody murder if it isn't...some aren't so picky..This will be up to the person your trying to convince really..and as long as he understands this..and understands if he gets a damaged one to take it back..it's a no brainer.
7) Both are excellent..both have some minor differences between makes..but both will do a great job..If a person needs a better camera...they should get a dedicated camera IMHO...and as too the loudness and quality of the speakers..my Note II is louder than any unaided I-phone out there..This was something I disliked about my other Android phones...but on this one..it is one of the things like the screen size that blows away the competition entirely.
So...I have to ask..is you friend happy with his I-phone now ? Are you just trying to get them to switch because of your preference ? If yes to both..your possibly setting yourself up for a very unhappy situation..If they are really wanting to switch..they will..Many folks are deeply disturbed by Apple's relentless lawsuits..and lack of recent innovations...Many more are seeing all of the negative TV adds and are questioning themselves as well..Just know this before you say much more to them..if they are the type of individual that wants to set it and then forget it..they may be much better off with a Apple I-phone than a Android one..While most Android phones can be used like that as well in reality...the simple fact is the majority of I-phone users expect theirs to work perfectly out of the box...and many past Android phones which are the bulk of the phones on the market haven't been that way. While you may be here and can see what can and can't be done to them...you have to ask them if they are willing to actually learn how to do this..Many many people aren't willing to mess with their phones by either jail breaking them...or rooting them and installing custom features..so they are a set it and forget it type of individual...
Phone for phone comparing the Note II against a 4s I-phone..is a no brainer really..it offers so much more that that one..Comparing it to a I-phone 5..will depend entirely on the individuals taste/wants/needs..and also what their carrier offers as far as connectivity for LTE as well as how deeply they are invested in Apple products..and their family& friends as well. From a purely personal perspective..I prefer my note to either the 4s or 5 I-phones because of what I do with it..and that is something your friend is going to have to decide for themselves...
This is about as unbiased as I can be...hope it helps..
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rotule said:
Still wondering if this is sarcasm
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No sarcasm involved.
I was throwing you props for making valid point that has not been made on res....well at least in this forum & for that I gave you thanks on your 1st xda post.

Anyone come back to S3 after using/trying/owning a Nexus 4?

My wife got the Nexus 4, and mine is on the way. I'm not so sure I want it. I had the galaxy nexus and loved it. The nexus 4 is a great device, love it. But there are some things I don't like.
Thinking about buying this phone instead.
I like the removable battery, expandable storage, better camera than n4, kind of like touch wiz a little (especially note the just announced the new update package with cool features)
Also, service at my desk is horrible. Its fine everywhere else. But every T-Mobile phone I've owned has had better service at my desk. Kind of a deal breaker, and I think the s3 will be better.
Thoughts?
Kind of like the ability for USB otg as well. Can't on the nexus 4. Also, nexus 4 feels to fancy, like breakable fancy. I like the s3 feel. Feels cheaper, but sturdier cheaper. Make sense? Like only using fine China on occasion. Use the cheap stuff daily
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S3 is better, plus you can flash CM10 for that nexus. Only reason why nexus is better is for latest updates.

Lol you basically put down ask the reasons of why get an s3.
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I currently have both phones.
My SGS3 is rooted with a highly modified Touchwiz based rom, kernel, etc etc. I am no stranger to CM and AOKP roms and have run them on past phones as well as tried them on the SGS3.
The N4 is now running a AOKP ROM.
There's a lot to like about both devices. The pentile screen on the SGS3 STILL bugs me a little. Any closer than 5 or 6 inches and I can see the cross hatch pattern in certain colors. If you need WiFi calling, stop reading and go buy the SGS3.
The SGS3 IMO is a better all around friendlier device. As you mentioned, it has a micro-SD slot, removable battery, etc etc. As much as people knock it for it's plastic-y feel, the device is solid. Mine does not creak or flex, and the seams line up near perfectly. I think the biggest thing here is the plastic battery door cover that just seems to clip on and off. I don't mind it at all, it's just an interpretation on how to construct a device. Plus, with it's beveled rear the device feels even slimmer than it already is. The Touchwiz argument is also an interesting one to me. The SGS3 has been super easy to Mod. Plenty of dev support for all of it's versions. If you want to run Touchwiz you can, and there are some things to like, especially with the recently announced features. If you want to run something else, that can be done too, and IMO it's a fairly simple process.
The N4 to me is more of a statement. The build quality is excellent. The materials are excellent. If this phone had a microSD card slot and WiFi calling, I'd sell my SGS3 in a heartbeat, but it doesn't. I love to mod my phones so the microSD card slot makes a big difference to me. At 8gb or 16gb, Google is also telling users to move to the cloud for storage. Funny enough, the N4 getting the latest OS can be a hindrance as much as a virtue. Some apps still don't work right on 4.2. Even google's own Chrome browser likes to FC.
In the end, they're both FANTASTIC devices. From a stylistic point of view, the N4 wins. Having used both phones for a few days, I will tell you right now that speed is not an issue with either phone. Setup properly, I dare you to find either one of them flinch or skip a beat. My SGS3 actually feels faster than my N4, but that's a lot like saying a Aventador is faster than a 458. IMO, unless you're a gamer, processor speed is not really a limiting factor for phones at this level.
The N4 does feel "fancier" than the SGS3, but make no mistake, you WILL wince if I told you to drop either of them. One look at what seems like an acre of gorilla glass on the SGS3 and the first thought you're going to have is "I'm going to HATE myself if I ever drop this thing". I'd say from this perspective, the only difference would be is, if you happen to drop the phone on it's back, the SGS3 cover can be replaced easily and cheaply, but if the rear glass on the N4 shatters....... well, ouch.
Simply put, there's no bad choice.
Good luck, hope this helped.
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se1000 said:
I currently have both phones.
My SGS3 is rooted with a highly modified Touchwiz based rom, kernel, etc etc. I am no stranger to CM and AOKP roms and have run them on past phones as well as tried them on the SGS3.
The N4 is now running a AOKP ROM.
There's a lot to like about both devices. The pentile screen on the SGS3 STILL bugs me a little. Any closer than 5 or 6 inches and I can see the cross hatch pattern in certain colors. If you need WiFi calling, stop reading and go buy the SGS3.
The SGS3 IMO is a better all around friendlier device. As you mentioned, it has a micro-SD slot, removable battery, etc etc. As much as people knock it for it's plastic-y feel, the device is solid. Mine does not creak or flex, and the seams line up near perfectly. I think the biggest thing here is the plastic battery door cover that just seems to clip on and off. I don't mind it at all, it's just an interpretation on how to construct a device. Plus, with it's beveled rear the device feels even slimmer than it already is. The Touchwiz argument is also an interesting one to me. The SGS3 has been super easy to Mod. Plenty of dev support for all of it's versions. If you want to run Touchwiz you can, and there are some things to like, especially with the recently announced features. If you want to run something else, that can be done too, and IMO it's a fairly simple process.
The N4 to me is more of a statement. The build quality is excellent. The materials are excellent. If this phone had a microSD card slot and WiFi calling, I'd sell my SGS3 in a heartbeat, but it doesn't. I love to mod my phones so the microSD card slot makes a big difference to me. At 8gb or 16gb, Google is also telling users to move to the cloud for storage. Funny enough, the N4 getting the latest OS can be a hindrance as much as a virtue. Some apps still don't work right on 4.2. Even google's own Chrome browser likes to FC.
In the end, they're both FANTASTIC devices. From a stylistic point of view, the N4 wins. Having used both phones for a few days, I will tell you right now that speed is not an issue with either phone. Setup properly, I dare you to find either one of them flinch or skip a beat. My SGS3 actually feels faster than my N4, but that's a lot like saying a Aventador is faster than a 458. IMO, unless you're a gamer, processor speed is not really a limiting factor for phones at this level.
The N4 does feel "fancier" than the SGS3, but make no mistake, you WILL wince if I told you to drop either of them. One look at what seems like an acre of gorilla glass on the SGS3 and the first thought you're going to have is "I'm going to HATE myself if I ever drop this thing". I'd say from this perspective, the only difference would be is, if you happen to drop the phone on it's back, the SGS3 cover can be replaced easily and cheaply, but if the rear glass on the N4 shatters....... well, ouch.
Simply put, there's no bad choice.
Good luck, hope this helped.
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You my friend hit the nail right on the head. I got the SGS3 32GB and I still think I need more space. I take a lot of pictures and videos so I need it. I'm sorry but there is no way tmobile's coverage is good enough to depend on cloud service consistently. For some reason I lose signal at almost every Target locations so I can't even check into Shopkick. If I can't even do that, there is no frakking way I can depend on cloud.
OOTB, the SGS3 will stutter on most things that I do. However, with morfic and FrostyJB_4.1.1, I'm good. The ONLY thing I want for my SGS3 is that screen from N4. Penile AMOLED gets on my nerves occasionally but I can live with it. Lack of space, I can't live with that.
So there. Storage is the most important factor for me. What's yours?
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LordPhong said:
You my friend hit the nail right on the head. I got the SGS3 32GB and I still think I need more space. I take a lot of pictures and videos so I need it. I'm sorry but there is no way tmobile's coverage is good enough to depend on cloud service consistently. For some reason I lose signal at almost every Target locations so I can't even check into Shopkick. If I can't even do that, there is no frakking way I can depend on cloud.
OOTB, the SGS3 will stutter on most things that I do. However, with morfic and FrostyJB_4.1.1, I'm good. The ONLY thing I want for my SGS3 is that screen from N4. Penile AMOLED gets on my nerves occasionally but I can live with it. Lack of space, I can't live with that.
So there. Storage is the most important factor for me. What's yours?
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I completely agree with what you guys say. For me, the micro sd card does it. I have the 16gb s3 and a 16 th card and I'm almost out of space. People use their device for different things and I use them for music. I have my entire music library on my phone and I don't use mp3 but instead flac lossless and if you use them, you know these files are 20-35MB per song. So for me, that's why I didn't sell my s3 for the nexus 4. The screen on the s3 also annoys me. So much, that I.considered sacrificing some songs to get the nexus 4. First pentile screen that I used was the Motorola Atrix 4G and the pentile made the screen garbage. I came with the s3 because it was the best phone t mobile had and I also seen reviews where they said the high pixel density made the pentile not matter. Well it still bus me so now I know for my next phone. I also can't rely on cloud storage because of the inconsistent signal from t mobile. In the mall yesterday, I got 1-2 signal (sometimes none) while my soon to be girlfriend :fingers crossed: had full signal with att. And no matter what carrier you have ,you are limited to data and steaming can make a dent so cloud won't become more useful for steaming for a while. And if I go on a trip, I can't friend in streaming either. A 64 GB nexus 4 child have gone the trick for many people. Although we dislike the sealed battery, many can deal with it and I can, but not with no large memory or sd slot
That's a tough sell
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Does anyone think they will use the dual window feature when the new update package comes out?
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LordPhong said:
You my friend hit the nail right on the head. I got the SGS3 32GB and I still think I need more space. I take a lot of pictures and videos so I need it. I'm sorry but there is no way tmobile's coverage is good enough to depend on cloud service consistently. For some reason I lose signal at almost every Target locations so I can't even check into Shopkick. If I can't even do that, there is no frakking way I can depend on cloud.
OOTB, the SGS3 will stutter on most things that I do. However, with morfic and FrostyJB_4.1.1, I'm good. The ONLY thing I want for my SGS3 is that screen from N4. Penile AMOLED gets on my nerves occasionally but I can live with it. Lack of space, I can't live with that.
So there. Storage is the most important factor for me. What's yours?
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I disabled about 30 apps and typically run 550-750mb of ram at the most. I basically cut the OS down to only the parts I use. It helped a lot to speed things up on the SGS3.
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Does anyone think they will use the dual window feature when the new update package comes out?
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I don't think I'll personally use it that often, but the biggest thing for me is that, if I wanted to, I could (if I stick with the SGS3). There's not telling if any of this will get ported to AOSP/AOKP, but if it doesn't, it means you don't have a choice. As much as people knock Touchwiz and even Sense, they are pretty convenient and come with some cool features. Touchwiz especially with all of the Samsung specific software. If you have other Samsung devices that are compatible, that can also factor in on the decision.
I may end up keeping both phones. haha.

I have both but...
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My wife got the Nexus 4, and mine is on the way. I'm not so sure I want it. I had the galaxy nexus and loved it. The nexus 4 is a great device, love it. But there are some things I don't like.
Thinking about buying this phone instead.
I like the removable battery, expandable storage, better camera than n4, kind of like touch wiz a little (especially note the just announced the new update package with cool features)
Also, service at my desk is horrible. Its fine everywhere else. But every T-Mobile phone I've owned has had better service at my desk. Kind of a deal breaker, and I think the s3 will be better.
Thoughts?
Kind of like the ability for USB otg as well. Can't on the nexus 4. Also, nexus 4 feels to fancy, like breakable fancy. I like the s3 feel. Feels cheaper, but sturdier cheaper. Make sense? Like only using fine China on occasion. Use the cheap stuff daily
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I have a Tmo s3 and bought a N4. I used N4 for a couple of days and let's just say, I came back to my s3.
- on s3 you get the entire 4.8" of screen so watching netflix and reading flipboard, pulse and web surfing is better imo.(on N4 you don't get the entire 4.7")
- I'm not a fan of on-screen buttons because i have accidently hit home button a few times when I meant to type space bar on the keyboard(super annoying)
- ext. micro sd slot. (hallelujah) . I can keep official touchwiz rom nandroid backup on intenal sd and my all other rom backups on my ext. sd giving me ample space on my internal sd.(I like to switch roms back and forth)
- split screen is getting pushed soon.
- removable batteries.(not a deal breaker but nice to have the option)
- stock camera app on s3 definitely takes better pictures and video shooting has pause option.
- and if i break or brick my phone i only have to pay $130 deductible to get a replacement. /knockOnWood
N4
- has better build feel and look.
- google wallet out the box.
- first to get updates.
- wireless charging capability
- miracast feature with just a cheap on-TV dongle for non smartTVs
- raw power for gamers.(geekbench scores 2050-2085 out the box. iphone 5 gets 1600+)
but ultimately, it all comes down to how you like to use your phone. but for me, s3 > N4.(slightly)

Thanks for awesome message. What time are you using for your S3. I'm looking for a good touch with romantic for my T-999v
Thanks again for your detailed message
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I love my S3 and there is no other phone, especially one without an SD card or removable battery that I would user in the world.
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se1000 said:
The SGS3 has been super easy to Mod. Plenty of dev support for all of it's versions.
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Ha, that's not true. The Cyanogenmod developers seem to dislike the S3. It's crashy when running CM, and glitchy for some people. It's stable enough for most people to use, but if running AOSP is important, S3 support is a worry when buying a phone.

I wouldn't trade my 4 month old S3 with a brand new N4. Personally, I think the N4 looks better and has better screen (oh, and faster chip--> don't care). But the S3 is more practical due to supporting USB otg (Ive read that the N4's hardware don't support usb otg ), memory card, removable battery. Touchwiz is, actually, great after I experienced pure android on the N10. It is more friendly and convenient. Not sure about the N4, but playing media file on the N10 is a pain since it doesn't support many codec (since they are all Nexus so I assume they are the same). THe N4 may be the hottest phone atm, but the S3 is still better. (I ordered a N4 for my bro and it is coming today will have a chance to compare them)

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I wouldn't trade my 4 month old S3 with a brand new N4. Personally, I think the N4 looks better and has better screen (oh, and faster chip--> don't care). But the S3 is more practical due to supporting USB otg (Ive read that the N4's hardware don't support usb otg ), memory card, removable battery. Touchwiz is, actually, great after I experienced pure android on the N10. It is more friendly and convenient. Not sure about the N4, but playing media file on the N10 is a pain since it doesn't support many codec (since they are all Nexus so I assume they are the same). THe N4 may be the hottest phone atm, but the S3 is still better. (I ordered a N4 for my bro and it is coming today will have a chance to compare them)
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I'm really torn with the s3. I'm finally due for an upgrade and was planning on getting the s3 but with all of the complaints about the screen and the fact the s4 is on the horizon I just might wait.. I do know that the SD card not being on the N4 is a deal breaker and I won't consider it no matter how great. Shame that Google seems to following in Apple's footsteps in that regards.
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Do not forget about the battery life. Switched back from the nexus after a week of usage. Screen on time is horrible compared to the galaxy.
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While cloud streaming is a great concept, I don't want to be forced to use it since it's not always the best solution for the situation. I like having choice.
No removable battery is also a deal breaker for me. I want to not care if I'm abusing the battery.
I would love to trade screen technology, but then again I like being able to save battery by lowering the brightness past stock settings when I don't need it.
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Confessions of a young Fanboy

Hello XDA Community,
I got my first smartphone in middle school. It was my first phone. The T-Mobile Shadow (Windows Mobile). I was 13 then. Now I'm 18, and in College. I spent my free time in doing the easy mods the community created. I got the MyTouch 3g as soon as it came out and started flashing roms. Then, the Nexus One came out and I immediately came up with a scheme to convince my sister to take my old phone so I could get the Nexus One. Anyways, I got it in 10th grade and life was sweet. I was happy. I became a "crack flasher". So I had the phone for a while and decided then to get the Galaxy S3.
As for the Galaxy S3...
I don't know about this phone. I've had it for less then a year. Obviously, I became an HTC fanboy growing up with HTC phones. My friends all got HTC phones. We all flashed roms and enjoyed ourselves. But when this phone came out, I had to make a hard decision. The removable battery, expandable storage (and T-Mobile availability) made it a good choice. It was unlike the HTC One X in those regards. (My friend got that phone) The HTC One just came out. I want it now.
Why?
Well I suppose I'm not that happy with the S3. I got a 64gb micro sd for it. I thought I could replace my ipod. I was so wrong. I hate all of the music players on Android. I regard music too highly to be happy with the Android music experience. Anyways, that's not going to change with any new Android phone. I've learned to live with that. The screen is nice, but it doesn't compare to other displays I've seen. I guess it's because I keep the DPI kind of low and expect crispness? The LG Nexus 4 has an amazing screen also and works very well. The biggest thing though, that I really dislike about this phone, is the build quality. I hate the plastic feeling. I hate the gloss and fingerprints. It feels so cheap. And, the UI isn't even liquid smooth. I've flashed a lot. I guess I'm comparing it to the Nexus 4 now, as I've played with that a bit. I've got very close to really quick, but I'm not satisfied. I paid a lot of money and invested my hopes in this technology but I'm not pleased.
I've found that throughout the time I've owned this phone, I've thought a lot of different things. I've considered Windows Phone, Blackberry, and even iPhone, just because I want something sexy that works well. But I'm an Android man.
I don't know if this is because deep down, I'm an HTC fanboy. Or if it's because I'm a Google fanboy and love Nexus phones (or a combination?). i hate these second thoughts I'm getting after such a long time of having the phone. It's not long enough to justify an upgrade. Am I cursed with being unimpressed forever growing up with so many innovations around me?
Do share your thoughts for me on this. I just wanted to share,
Cheers,
ywindlass

Tl;dr
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We all have our wish lists for that single, perfect phone. I know I certainly do. Whether it's the IPhone's/HTC's/Sony's great hardware/build quality, or the pure Android experience offered with Nexus, or Samsung's wide array of software features/apps, the "perfect" one.
I love technology and I love my smartphone. I love rooting, flashing, trying out a thousand different things on my phone. But why should I care about it (the smartphone) so much? Of course I have invested lots of money into my smartphone, but it's not healthy to be consumed so much by smartphone. I know I'm going a bit off-topic, but really I'm just trying to tell you, just get a phone for what it really was for, to call, to text. I know apps are so convenient nowadays because we have everything in a device, but sometimes it's not bad to do it old-fashioned.
Get a phone that you will use now and a while. Get a phone that can serve its purpose. While a phone may have many features or many apps, I highly doubt a student or a professional will find use for it every single hour of the day. Most of us I assume probably aren't developers, and even as hobbies, it shouldn't consume much time.

GG2012 said:
We all have our wish lists for that single, perfect phone. I know I certainly do. Whether it's the IPhone's/HTC's/Sony's great hardware/build quality, or the pure Android experience offered with Nexus, or Samsung's wide array of software features/apps, the "perfect" one.
I love technology and I love my smartphone. I love rooting, flashing, trying out a thousand different things on my phone. But why should I care about it (the smartphone) so much? Of course I have invested lots of money into my smartphone, but it's not healthy to be consumed so much by smartphone. I know I'm going a bit off-topic, but really I'm just trying to tell you, just get a phone for what it really was for, to call, to text. I know apps are so convenient nowadays because we have everything in a device, but sometimes it's not bad to do it old-fashioned.
Get a phone that you will use now and a while. Get a phone that can serve its purpose. While a phone may have many features or many apps, I highly doubt a student or a professional will find use for it every single hour of the day. Most of us I assume probably aren't developers, and even as hobbies, it shouldn't consume much time.
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This is by far the best advice I have seen on xda ...ever.
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ywindlass said:
Hello XDA Community,
I got my first smartphone in middle school. It was my first phone. The T-Mobile Shadow (Windows Mobile). I was 13 then. Now I'm 18, and in College. I spent my free time in doing the easy mods the community created. I got the MyTouch 3g as soon as it came out and started flashing roms. Then, the Nexus One came out and I immediately came up with a scheme to convince my sister to take my old phone so I could get the Nexus One. Anyways, I got it in 10th grade and life was sweet. I was happy. I became a "crack flasher". So I had the phone for a while and decided then to get the Galaxy S3.
As for the Galaxy S3...
I don't know about this phone. I've had it for less then a year. Obviously, I became an HTC fanboy growing up with HTC phones. My friends all got HTC phones. We all flashed roms and enjoyed ourselves. But when this phone came out, I had to make a hard decision. The removable battery, expandable storage (and T-Mobile availability) made it a good choice. It was unlike the HTC One X in those regards. (My friend got that phone) The HTC One just came out. I want it now.
Why?
Well I suppose I'm not that happy with the S3. I got a 64gb micro sd for it. I thought I could replace my ipod. I was so wrong. I hate all of the music players on Android. I regard music too highly to be happy with the Android music experience. Anyways, that's not going to change with any new Android phone. I've learned to live with that. The screen is nice, but it doesn't compare to other displays I've seen. I guess it's because I keep the DPI kind of low and expect crispness? The LG Nexus 4 has an amazing screen also and works very well. The biggest thing though, that I really dislike about this phone, is the build quality. I hate the plastic feeling. I hate the gloss and fingerprints. It feels so cheap. And, the UI isn't even liquid smooth. I've flashed a lot. I guess I'm comparing it to the Nexus 4 now, as I've played with that a bit. I've got very close to really quick, but I'm not satisfied. I paid a lot of money and invested my hopes in this technology but I'm not pleased.
I've found that throughout the time I've owned this phone, I've thought a lot of different things. I've considered Windows Phone, Blackberry, and even iPhone, just because I want something sexy that works well. But I'm an Android man.
I don't know if this is because deep down, I'm an HTC fanboy. Or if it's because I'm a Google fanboy and love Nexus phones (or a combination?). i hate these second thoughts I'm getting after such a long time of having the phone. It's not long enough to justify an upgrade. Am I cursed with being unimpressed forever growing up with so many innovations around me?
Do share your thoughts for me on this. I just wanted to share,
Cheers,
ywindlass
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Back when you were content with your phone(s), things were growing much slower than they are now. At the current rate that phones are being released, it's guaranteed that there will be a new and better phone that you will want within the first year. Companies don't want you to be content with a phone for too long. I bet Samsung has better features right now that could have been added to the s4, but they want to save those for the s5.
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I agree on almost all of your points. I've had my share of android phones (G1, Moto Charm, G2x, and now Galaxy S3) and I'm beginning to become disappointed with the experience of this phone compared to that of a newer android device or even an iPhone and it's been only 8 months since I've purchased it. I don't quite agree with you on the music issue as I'm a music junkie myself with a 7 gig library but poweramp has transformed my android music listening experience into a great one.
Back to the S3, I've found that the battery life and build quality have been very sub par for me. Plus the pentile display is nothing to rave about either. Being only a sophomore in high school and tied to my family's family plan on T-Mobile, I really don't have an option to switch. I desperately want a Note 2 or Nexus 4 but financially I'm screwed. Even with the Nexus 4's low price I'd have to wait for the rumored 32gb version for storage reasons but that'd set me back $400 for shipping and tax. The S3 isn't even worth that anymore used.
All in all, I feel as if I should've waited for the Note 2 or Nexus 4 before getting the S3. Don't get me wrong, it's an awesome device that's suits all of my needs fine but there are definitely better choices out there from the perspective of a critical tech junkie such as myself.
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You can see the phones I've had in my signature, all 3 Nokias were indestructible...the old flip phone, I threw it at a wall and it exploded into a million pieces, put it back together and the thing still works...man they really knew how to build phones...
The Nexus One was a great phone. I had to drop it and break the internal screen (oddly enough the outer glass didn't crack at all.). But it felt great in my hand, it was very solid and built well.
The Nexus S was kind of disappointing I have to say...Almost completely the same specs and I felt it wasn't built as well. I sold it for my GS-II
That stupid thing was the retarded stepchild of the S-II fleet...the poor developers were stuck with GB while T-Mobile picked its ass holding back all the updates. ****ty screen for sure, visible display flaws, poor PPI, cheap feeling...I never wanted to get a Samsung again. But I did...
The S-III was a huge improvement to say the least...I'm very satisfied with it. It does feel cheaper than say my old N1, but I think it feels a lot better than the NS or t989. Honestly with a screen protector and an otterbox commuter case, it's just fine. And as long as I have my Cyanogenmod, I don't care what software the thing comes with . Barring anything crazy coming out anytime soon, I don't see myself getting another phone until this falls apart.
In my eyes, as cliche as it may be, since my most important factors are Cyanogenmod and otterbox (or equivalent) case availability, all I care about are the specs. I sure hope screens stop ****in growing though...this one is almost too big as it is...
BTW: I sold my t989 on eBay for $350, all I had to do was unlock the thing, instantly increases it's value by a good $150. Always unlock your phone before you sell it, it will sell for much more.

nyyankees1237 said:
I agree on almost all of your points. I've had my share of android phones (G1, Moto Charm, G2x, and now Galaxy S3) and I'm beginning to become disappointed with the experience of this phone compared to that of a newer android device or even an iPhone and it's been only 8 months since I've purchased it. I don't quite agree with you on the music issue as I'm a music junkie myself with a 7 gig library but poweramp has transformed my android music listening experience into a great one.
Back to the S3, I've found that the battery life and build quality have been very sub par for me. Plus the pentile display is nothing to rave about either. Being only a sophomore in high school and tied to my family's family plan on T-Mobile, I really don't have an option to switch. I desperately want a Note 2 or Nexus 4 but financially I'm screwed. Even with the Nexus 4's low price I'd have to wait for the rumored 32gb version for storage reasons but that'd set me back $400 for shipping and tax. The S3 isn't even worth that anymore used.
All in all, I feel as if I should've waited for the Note 2 or Nexus 4 before getting the S3. Don't get me wrong, it's an awesome device that's suits all of my needs fine but there are definitely better choices out there from the perspective of a critical tech junkie such as myself.
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Referring to the music, my library exceeds 30 gigs and I've just found it irritating to sync and manage. Not a huge issue though. I think we're on the same page though. I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that way about the device. The thing is that I can get the HTC One spending all of my current savings, but then of course that means no new phone in the coming months. And Later this year there are just too many rumors about this "X Phone" and the new nexus... Idk.
zander21510 said:
In my eyes, as cliche as it may be, since my most important factors are Cyanogenmod and otterbox (or equivalent) case availability, all I care about are the specs. I sure hope screens stop ****in growing though...this one is almost too big as it is...
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I see where you're coming from. I got a huge Seido case for my S3, and then took it off after about a month. I dropped it afterwards (about 9 feet onto my subwoofer, long story) and nothing happened luckily. I like it better without a case. I guess looks would be a smaller factor then. Maybe, I should just snap that huge case back on and try to hold out until the holiday season... Idk lol. Thanks for the reply. :good:

I agree, I'll wait for the next nexus or galaxy note 3 with some saved money.
Perfect phone for me though:
High quality metal build (aluminum perhaps)
1080p 5+inch screen
3000mah+ battery
2ghz quadcore processor
2gb+ ram
Micro SD card slot
64gb+ internal storage
Stock android (for nexus updates)
8+ megapixel camera
Front facing speakers
Not insanely expensive lol
A guy could dream. Can anyone get it right?

ywindlass said:
Hello XDA Community,
I got my first smartphone in middle school. It was my first phone. The T-Mobile Shadow (Windows Mobile). I was 13 then. Now I'm 18, and in College. I spent my free time in doing the easy mods the community created. I got the MyTouch 3g as soon as it came out and started flashing roms. Then, the Nexus One came out and I immediately came up with a scheme to convince my sister to take my old phone so I could get the Nexus One. Anyways, I got it in 10th grade and life was sweet. I was happy. I became a "crack flasher". So I had the phone for a while and decided then to get the Galaxy S3.
As for the Galaxy S3...
I don't know about this phone. I've had it for less then a year. Obviously, I became an HTC fanboy growing up with HTC phones. My friends all got HTC phones. We all flashed roms and enjoyed ourselves. But when this phone came out, I had to make a hard decision. The removable battery, expandable storage (and T-Mobile availability) made it a good choice. It was unlike the HTC One X in those regards. (My friend got that phone) The HTC One just came out. I want it now.
Why?
Well I suppose I'm not that happy with the S3. I got a 64gb micro sd for it. I thought I could replace my ipod. I was so wrong. I hate all of the music players on Android. I regard music too highly to be happy with the Android music experience. Anyways, that's not going to change with any new Android phone. I've learned to live with that. The screen is nice, but it doesn't compare to other displays I've seen. I guess it's because I keep the DPI kind of low and expect crispness? The LG Nexus 4 has an amazing screen also and works very well. The biggest thing though, that I really dislike about this phone, is the build quality. I hate the plastic feeling. I hate the gloss and fingerprints. It feels so cheap. And, the UI isn't even liquid smooth. I've flashed a lot. I guess I'm comparing it to the Nexus 4 now, as I've played with that a bit. I've got very close to really quick, but I'm not satisfied. I paid a lot of money and invested my hopes in this technology but I'm not pleased.
I've found that throughout the time I've owned this phone, I've thought a lot of different things. I've considered Windows Phone, Blackberry, and even iPhone, just because I want something sexy that works well. But I'm an Android man.
I don't know if this is because deep down, I'm an HTC fanboy. Or if it's because I'm a Google fanboy and love Nexus phones (or a combination?). i hate these second thoughts I'm getting after such a long time of having the phone. It's not long enough to justify an upgrade. Am I cursed with being unimpressed forever growing up with so many innovations around me?
Do share your thoughts for me on this. I just wanted to share,
Cheers,
ywindlass
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Companies are getting us used to crave new things within very short periods of time, an example of this is the fact that new phones, tablets or any kind of electronics pop every 4 to 6 months, which is done to satisfy our non-basic needs of always having the latest gadgets, and to create more profits or economic growth for the typical capitalist corporations. We've been spoiled to have new tech very fast, which is in a way bad as this craving (or addiction?) can easily go out control and we can be left bored with very new gadgets in our hands or even go into debt t o satisfy this craving for more. This spoiling behavior makes us feel the need to want more or not to be satisfied with what we have and we can quickly become slaves of technology if we dive too deep into it, hence what you are feeling when you say that you are growing unimpressed with so many innovations or not satisfied or please with the current technology. Perhaps I'm going a bit of topic, but is worth to be aware where we stand as consumers and the invisible ways corporations play with our "addictions" or "needs" for the latest.

I love the looks of both the Nexus 4 and the HTC one better than my Galaxy S3, but no removeable battery and no expandable memory? Get serious? I can deal with a plasic back, the price I paid tells me it's not cheap! Anyways, I don't agree with anything else you said. This phone was awesomly fast out of the box and now I have a custom ROM that even improved on that. Plus, I prefer Samoleds although I admit Samsung could do better. A 1080p screen with Super Amoled + with a different pentile arrangement would be nice. My next phone is most likely to be the Note 3, Samsung is just at the edge of innovation right now, too much so for me not to buy. Can't wait!

nyyankees1237 said:
A guy could dream. Can anyone get it right?
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I would say my dream phone would be:
-1080p 4.75in (no bigger, no smaller) super-fancy spaceage whatever screen that can actually get its brightness as low as possible at night, and stays clear and readable in direct sunlight...
-1.5ghz+ ultra-energy efficient 4+ core processor.
-2GB+ RAM
-Micro SD card
-16+ GB internal storage
-Removable back cover and battery
-NFC, Barometer, compass, so many sensors I can start a weatherstation lol.
-Vibration with adjustable intensity from barely felt to earthquake magnitude.
-Latest Cyanogenmod stock, with options to auto-update to stable, M, or nightly releases (a guy can dream...)
-A rear camera that can shoot 1080P video and instant-shutter, no noise high quality pictures, and a front camera capable of doing an HD Skype call.
-2 front-firing speakers (one on bottom, one on top that doubles as earpiece); a rear-facing mic for the camera, and a bottom-facing mic for phone calls
-Capacative buttons underneath screen (menu, home, back in that order)
-24-hour runtime battery
-Body of carbon fiber (the durabilty of plastic with the feel of metal)
-Super gorilla glass whatever that can withstand a 5-foot face-down drop.
I would pay a good $450 for that phone.

Can't forget the holographic keyboard.
Scores over 10,000 on quadrant, I saw a stock HTC one today score 9133 on quadrant running stock 4.1.2. That was impressive.
I like your dream phone.
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zander21510 said:
I would say my dream phone would be:
-1080p 4.75in (no bigger, no smaller) super-fancy spaceage whatever screen that can actually get its brightness as low as possible at night, and stays clear and readable in direct sunlight...
-1.5ghz+ ultra-energy efficient 4+ core processor.
-2GB+ RAM
-Micro SD card
-16+ GB internal storage
-Removable back cover and battery
-NFC, Barometer, compass, so many sensors I can start a weatherstation lol.
-Vibration with adjustable intensity from barely felt to earthquake magnitude.
-Latest Cyanogenmod stock, with options to auto-update to stable, M, or nightly releases (a guy can dream...)
-A rear camera that can shoot 1080P video and instant-shutter, no noise high quality pictures, and a front camera capable of doing an HD Skype call.
-2 front-firing speakers (one on bottom, one on top that doubles as earpiece); a rear-facing mic for the camera, and a bottom-facing mic for phone calls
-Capacative buttons underneath screen (menu, home, back in that order)
-24-hour runtime battery
-Body of carbon fiber (the durabilty of plastic with the feel of metal)
-Super gorilla glass whatever that can withstand a 5-foot face-down drop.
I would pay a good $450 for that phone.
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I'll take two! Haha
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The power of a desktop computer, specifically i7 3770k, gtx 580 sli x3, 24gb ram, 256gb sd, all in a sexy Nokia n9 form, running windows 8.
Thats my dream phone. Seems realistic enough.
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ywindlass said:
Hello XDA Community,
I got my first smartphone in middle school. It was my first phone. The T-Mobile Shadow (Windows Mobile). I was 13 then. Now I'm 18, and in College. I spent my free time in doing the easy mods the community created. I got the MyTouch 3g as soon as it came out and started flashing roms. Then, the Nexus One came out and I immediately came up with a scheme to convince my sister to take my old phone so I could get the Nexus One. Anyways, I got it in 10th grade and life was sweet. I was happy. I became a "crack flasher". So I had the phone for a while and decided then to get the Galaxy S3.
As for the Galaxy S3...
I don't know about this phone. I've had it for less then a year. Obviously, I became an HTC fanboy growing up with HTC phones. My friends all got HTC phones. We all flashed roms and enjoyed ourselves. But when this phone came out, I had to make a hard decision. The removable battery, expandable storage (and T-Mobile availability) made it a good choice. It was unlike the HTC One X in those regards. (My friend got that phone) The HTC One just came out. I want it now.
Why?
Well I suppose I'm not that happy with the S3. I got a 64gb micro sd for it. I thought I could replace my ipod. I was so wrong. I hate all of the music players on Android. I regard music too highly to be happy with the Android music experience. Anyways, that's not going to change with any new Android phone. I've learned to live with that. The screen is nice, but it doesn't compare to other displays I've seen. I guess it's because I keep the DPI kind of low and expect crispness? The LG Nexus 4 has an amazing screen also and works very well. The biggest thing though, that I really dislike about this phone, is the build quality. I hate the plastic feeling. I hate the gloss and fingerprints. It feels so cheap. And, the UI isn't even liquid smooth. I've flashed a lot. I guess I'm comparing it to the Nexus 4 now, as I've played with that a bit. I've got very close to really quick, but I'm not satisfied. I paid a lot of money and invested my hopes in this technology but I'm not pleased.
I've found that throughout the time I've owned this phone, I've thought a lot of different things. I've considered Windows Phone, Blackberry, and even iPhone, just because I want something sexy that works well. But I'm an Android man.
I don't know if this is because deep down, I'm an HTC fanboy. Or if it's because I'm a Google fanboy and love Nexus phones (or a combination?). i hate these second thoughts I'm getting after such a long time of having the phone. It's not long enough to justify an upgrade. Am I cursed with being unimpressed forever growing up with so many innovations around me?
Do share your thoughts for me on this. I just wanted to share,
Cheers,
ywindlass
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" I want something sexy that works well"
Get a cerulean n9. Though the s3 hardware is very much superior to the n9, the n9 just wins hands down IMHO.
I have both phone and u would pick the n9 over the s3 any day of I didn't water damage the power switch on my n9.. Grrr Seattle rain..

wardoc22 said:
The power of a desktop computer, specifically i7 3770k, gtx 580 sli x3, 24gb ram, 256gb sd, all in a sexy Nokia n9 form, running windows 8.
Thats my dream phone. Seems realistic enough.
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" I want something sexy that works well"
Get a cerulean n9. Though the s3 hardware is very much superior to the n9, the n9 just wins hands down IMHO.
I have both phone and u would pick the n9 over the s3 any day of I didn't water damage the power switch on my n9.. Grrr Seattle rain..
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Those specs would definitely be amazing haha. But yeah, I did end up getting the HTC one, and I think I'm happier. I havent even rooted yet and I'm still content. It just works so well. Everything is so clean and sexy.

nyyankees1237 said:
I agree, I'll wait for the next nexus or galaxy note 3 with some saved money.
Perfect phone for me though:
High quality metal build (aluminum perhaps)
1080p 5+inch screen
3000mah+ battery
2ghz quadcore processor
2gb+ ram
Micro SD card slot
64gb+ internal storage
Stock android (for nexus updates)
8+ megapixel camera
Front facing speakers
Not insanely expensive lol
Perfect phone for me though:
A guy could dream. Can anyone get it right?
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By your specs, would the Google S4 be it?
BTW, my dream specs:
1080p 5+inch screen
3000mah+battery
2ghz quadcore processor
3gb ram
Micro SD card slot
128gb+internal storage
Stock android
12+MP camera
4+MP front camera
Wireless charging
Front facing speakers
FM radio (for my mom)
LTE
Inexpensive

wardoc22 said:
Grrr Seattle rain..
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Rain? Seattle? Pfft.....

Thetenthdr said:
Rain? Seattle? Pfft.....
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It rains here 24.7 in the winter.

Yes, yes it does.
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HTC M8 Prime coming out? What do you think?

HTC M8 Prime coming out? What do you think?
Would you be upset since you just purchased the M8?

Bla.. Sell this one buy the new one. Should companies stop making phone and adhere to some useless timelines like make a phone every year or 2 years etc. There is a new snapdragon 805 coming, new phones with QHD displays coming out soon. It will be foolish of HTC or any other company to wait till next year to release a phone with the new soc, screens etc.
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Qualcomm's Snapdragon 805 is going to be insane that's for sure. But if the rumors are true about the screen being 5.5 inch, I definitely don't want one. I'm drawing the line at a 5 inch screen, and I'm going to pray to every god I can think of that they don't decide to make the standard any bigger lol.

Technology moves fast if you wait around you would never buy anything.
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I'll wait and see what it's got before I pull the trigger , but if it's got the same looks and size with an updated camera I'll be buying it
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snowwhite007 said:
Technology moves fast if you wait around you would never buy anything.
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omg you said that spot on!

When is a phone not a phone.
When it becomes a phablet. I think their is a fine line to what you can hold sensibly like a phone. Even if you have huge mitts.
I have large hands and this is my limit, size wise for a daily driver. Being able to fit in my pocket etc.
But second devices are always good

grentuu said:
When is a phone not a phone.
When it becomes a phablet.
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People have been saying this since the original Galaxy Note came out. At the time, most industry commenters expected the Note to fail spectacularly, but it, and its successors, were a massive commercial success.
grentuu said:
But second devices are always good
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Whilst I have an M8, it isn't my primary phone - that's a Galaxy Note 3. So, my M8 is my secondary device!
I don't care if people say it's "too big" because for my purposes I don't find that to be the case at all - and I don't have overly large hands and find the Note 3 perfectly pocketable.
The point is that we all have different needs and requirements.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
People have been saying this since the original Galaxy Note came out. At the time, most industry commenters expected the Note to fail spectacularly, but it, and its successors, were a massive commercial success.
Whilst I have an M8, it isn't my primary phone - that's a Galaxy Note 3. So, my M8 is my secondary device!
I don't care if people say it's "too big" because for my purposes I don't find that to be the case at all - and I don't have overly large hands and find the Note 3 perfectly pocketable.
The point is that we all have different needs and requirements.
Regards,
Dave
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Each to their own.... I just find it funny when I see people raise something the size of a small child to their ears

grentuu said:
Each to their own.... I just find it funny when I see people raise something the size of a small child to their ears
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I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
My first hand portable phone was a Nokia Orange: http://www.mobilephonehistory.co.uk/nokia/nokia_2140.php
It was over double the size (volumetrically) than my Note 3, and, obviously, a far less capable device with a lot lower battery life. It was also one of the first GSM (digital) devices, and as such much smaller than most of the analogue phones you could get back then.
My point is that it didn't really seem silly or unusual to have such a large device back then.
Given how much more capable modern phones are, I don't have a problem with the size, because, for me, the benefits of the large screen massively outweigh any disadvantages (of which there are surprisingly few). I'd happily add a few mm and grams to the Note 3 (and my M8 for that matter) to get an even bigger battery, but I digress!
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
Regards,
Dave
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Ok.... It's give me a clue time.
I was born before the Beatles came to fame.
Quite a few years before Armstrong stood on the moon....
Our house phone looked like this
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
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My TV looked like this
and our neighbours used to come in and sit and watch with us...
Technology spent years trying to 'downsize' their products and now all of a sudden it wants big and brash again. Incidentally, are we heading back to here? (My first mobile)
I have no problems with the bigger products. Like I said, it's just when people hold them to their ears.
Incidentally you young whippersnapper...who wins the age argument
Take care
Rob
P.S. Sorry for being Off topic OP - but it is kind of relevant

I dont think HTC will start selling a device just like their flagship but more powerful. They will aim an other market, and the 5.5 Inch rumor makes sense. I personally own the M8 and for my personal preferences thats the maximum size for a phone. There are people which are ok with their One MAX or Note 3. I just think this device will not be out to compete with the One M8

snowwhite007 said:
Technology moves fast if you wait around you would never buy anything.
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This is my philosophy as well.
There are only a few circumstances where waiting pays off.

foxmeister said:
I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
My first hand portable phone was a Nokia Orange: http://www.mobilephonehistory.co.uk/nokia/nokia_2140.php
It was over double the size (volumetrically) than my Note 3, and, obviously, a far less capable device with a lot lower battery life. It was also one of the first GSM (digital) devices, and as such much smaller than most of the analogue phones you could get back then.
My point is that it didn't really seem silly or unusual to have such a large device back then.
Given how much more capable modern phones are, I don't have a problem with the size, because, for me, the benefits of the large screen massively outweigh any disadvantages (of which there are surprisingly few). I'd happily add a few mm and grams to the Note 3 (and my M8 for that matter) to get an even bigger battery, but I digress!
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Dave
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Good point. Actually, at those days we used to make a call with the phone in our hands. Today I have a bt-headset and a pebble, which let me keep my phone in the pocket unless I need to google or read mails. Then, of course, size matters!
BTW, my jeans pockets are the same size than those of 1994, so what?
We will soon see that even Apple steps away from their masters voice, which claimed "nobody needs a phone bigger that an iPhone".

snowwhite007 said:
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Couldn't have said ti better myself. Ther'es always something newer and better on the horizon. Either go bankrupt buying them all or just be happy with what you got until you're ready to upgrade.

If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
Sent from my HTC M8

Simer03 said:
If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
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wait, you get fast when you are on crack? damn! i do the opposite.
you must be special. :good:

Simer03 said:
If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
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the m8 is already on crack, the prime maybe on meth

exocetdj said:
the m8 is already on crack, the prime maybe on meth
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Yeah, I underclocked and undervolted my CPU, constantly uses power saving mode, and my M8 still handles all the multitasking and games flawlessly.
The thing is, smartphones are significantly over-powered nowadays. In terms of usage, the jump from S801 to S805 or anything faster would be far less necessary in at least a year.

The prime would probably just have better specs. No point in it since I end up underclocking my CPU to 1.8GHz and only using 3 cores lol. Still don't see any lag.