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[Q] Wanting to buy an S3 in hawaii, wondering if it will work anywhere else

Hi all, i travelling to hawaii soon, and was thinking about purchasing a galaxy s3 while i am there, will i have any problems using this phone once i return to australia, i also noticed there are many variants of the s3, is there any i should avoid, or are they all the same but with different bundled software ?
i am keen to flash this device with custom roms in the future, so bundled software is not a huge concern of mine

Its either at&t or T-Mobile versions of galaxy s3 will work in your country but remember it will be sim locked...
Edit: might vary in Hawaii not sure if T-Mobile has network there...
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They definitely have network there. My brother just moved there, and there are a few members on here also.
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Yes there's network here. Lol.
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Wouldn't i be able to use the application 'GalaxSim Unlock' to unlock the sim, or would the S3's in hawaii likely be the Us qualcomm based GS3's ?

Why dont you just get one in Australia? Seems like a lot of trouble to go through? When you in Hawaii you just have to put a prepaid sim in it for it to work. Then when you go back home you have a phone that works well for your country without the hassle of doing something special to the phone to make it work for you. Plus you wouldn't be able to access the 4G networks of the Australian carriers with US variants.
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Because they are much cheaper to buy, also, i do not consider unlocking/flashing etc to be a difficult task, i actually enjoy it, call it a pastime that i enjoy if you wish.
Also, only the 4G version of the S3 is going to work on a 4G network, so if i dont buy the 4G version, its not going to be a problem anywhere in the world

Fair enough.
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The g1 and touch pro 2 I got in Hawaii work out of the states
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nyarlathotep said:
Because they are much cheaper to buy, also, i do not consider unlocking/flashing etc to be a difficult task, i actually enjoy it, call it a pastime that i enjoy if you wish.
Also, only the 4G version of the S3 is going to work on a 4G network, so if i dont buy the 4G version, its not going to be a problem anywhere in the world
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What? All versions of the S3 are "4G". The one in hawaii will be Qualcomm based. If you buy an ATT one in Hawaii the LTE will not work in Australia
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joshnichols189 said:
What? All versions of the S3 are "4G". The one in hawaii will be Qualcomm based. If you buy an ATT one in Hawaii the LTE will not work in Australia
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i beg to differ in regards to your comment of 'All versions of the S3 are "4G"'

Canadian Note II Users

I understand the launch is likely tomorrow, or in the next few days. Despite this, Rogers and actually most of the other major Canadian carriers run on the same bands for GSM, 3G and LTE as AT&T. I know for other Samsung devices, this has meant a shared forum for all these carriers. Does anyone know if this will be the case for the Note II as well?
I guess we will have to wait and check our model #s. It would be a shame though for users to assume that because their radios might be the same, that their model is the same, and they brick their device (assuming they would in fact be different).
If anyone can enlighten me on the situation, let me know.
Thanks,
Kiwinadians

Not sure about Bell or Telus but Rogers is definitely using the at&t variant, model numbers match. Wind, Mobilicity and Videotron are going to be using T-Mobile's variant with AWS HSPA.

mr mystery said:
Not sure about Bell or Telus but Rogers is definitely using the at&t variant, model numbers match. Wind, Mobilicity and Videotron are going to be using T-Mobile's variant with AWS HSPA.
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Thanks for the reply. This was the assumption I was making based on what I know about Canadian network frequencies, but you know what 'ass'uming does. Bell & Telus are usually similar, but I think they run a different lower freq. band for LTE (don't quote me on this, I'm thinking back to a wiki reference from a while ago).
I'm a 7-11 speakout user, so for me its the Rogers network, so I'll buy the non-contract Rogers variant. Thank goodness it also seems to be the cheapest!
Cheers

I placed my order with Rogers today for a.corporate account can't wait
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according to wikipedia the telus, bell, rogers variants are all SGH-i317M. seems to me that this will be the same phone as the AT&T version, with just an M to signify its the Canadian version.
Previous samsung phones with the M have been exactly the same hardware, just branded to the Canadian carrier, which should mean that mods/roms etc designed for the AT&T variant would work just fine for us Canadians.

jonnyb16 said:
according to wikipedia the telus, bell, rogers variants are all SGH-i317M. seems to me that this will be the same phone as the AT&T version, with just an M to signify its the Canadian version.
Previous samsung phones with the M have been exactly the same hardware, just branded to the Canadian carrier, which should mean that mods/roms etc designed for the AT&T variant would work just fine for us Canadians.
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From my suppliers facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/#!/mobiledna
Samsung Galaxy Note II superphone (SGH-I317M) - launch delay
Highlight:
"Samsung will roll out a series of launch activities starting October 30 for the official release of the Samsung Galaxy Note II superphone in Canada. However, due to global product delays, Bell will begin shipping product to channels starting Wednesday October 31st. Please begin selling upon receipt of inventory."
Then he adds:
"Mobile DNA Hi James Fan really hope Bell could start processing the shipment. In addition to the global delay, bell also move there warehouse to a new location which is causing huge delay for all the shipments : ("

roccos_van said:
From my suppliers facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/#!/mobiledna
Samsung Galaxy Note II superphone (SGH-I317M) - launch delay
Highlight:
"Samsung will roll out a series of launch activities starting October 30 for the official release of the Samsung Galaxy Note II superphone in Canada. However, due to global product delays, Bell will begin shipping product to channels starting Wednesday October 31st. Please begin selling upon receipt of inventory."
Then he adds:
"Mobile DNA Hi James Fan really hope Bell could start processing the shipment. In addition to the global delay, bell also move there warehouse to a new location which is causing huge delay for all the shipments : ("
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Pretty pathetic for a company to launch a product and have absolutely zero stock on hand to sell. Samsung really fudged things here. A lot of pissed off posts on their Facebook page.

I just ordered mine yesterday through rogers, I will post the information once I get it. Does anyone actually have a note 2 in Canada from one the carriers?

kapetajr said:
I just ordered mine yesterday through rogers, I will post the information once I get it. Does anyone actually have a note 2 in Canada from one the carriers?
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I'm on the way to pick my note 2 from the local bell store. Their stock arrived today
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Got it!
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C.Flat said:
Got it!
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damn... I'm still waiting for it, will become a new telus customer, no word when it comes, change my mind soon...

Got my rogers note 2 today, now just need to wait for root :crying: lol

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Got it!
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Odd. Looks just like the intl version. No bell logo anywhere? Does bell come with headphones?

C.Flat said:
Got it!
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Lucky, I'm still waiting for shipping confirmation.
turilo said:
Got my rogers note 2 today, now just need to wait for root :crying: lol
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Did you pick up in store or have it shipped to you?

kapetajr said:
Lucky, I'm still waiting for shipping confirmation.
Did you pick up in store or have it shipped to you?
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Pick up in store
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Note 2 said:
Odd. Looks just like the intl version. No bell logo anywhere? Does bell come with headphones?
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White Samsung headphones. No logos (Carriers in Canada don't put logos on phones anymore and haven't for a few years now )

does the store allow you to buy the phone full price without a plan?

keithhidalgo said:
does the store allow you to buy the phone full price without a plan?
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Rogers plus store does here yes, future shop or best buy here will not
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turilo said:
Rogers plus store does here yes, future shop or best buy here will not
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where are you located?

I know richmond BC Garden City & Blundell 's Bell Store have one left

GS3 Tmobile LTE capable?

So I was in a tmobile store today and was told that both the note II and Gs3 will receive a software patch to enable the lte radio. Asked the question like 10 different ways as I've read online that the gs3 will NOT be let cab able.
the internal phone workings are a little above my head...but i was told that the tmobile sg3 is the same as say the att model which does have the lte radio,
So, does that sound right that the SG3 is future proof and will be able to enable LTE?

androidcactus said:
So I was in a tmobile store today and was told that both the note II and Gs3 will receive a software patch to enable the lte radio. Asked the question like 10 different ways as I've read online that the gs3 will NOT be let cab able.
the internal phone workings are a little above my head...but i was told that the tmobile sg3 is the same as say the att model which does have the lte radio,
So, does that sound right that the SG3 is future proof and will be able to enable LTE?
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The question I should have asked is if they are shipping different GS3's for tmobile now? But regardless they were so confident that it will (LTE) be enabled...wanted to ask the experts thx

androidcactus said:
The question I should have asked is if they are shipping different GS3's for tmobile now? But regardless they were so confident that it will (LTE) be enabled...wanted to ask the experts thx
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when i worked at t mobile we were told that the galaxy s3 for t mobile has LTE radios, and that the device will support the LTE rollout. this was straight from corporate.
BOOM :highfive:

cobraboy85 said:
when i worked at t mobile we were told that the galaxy s3 for t mobile has LTE radios, and that the device will support the LTE rollout. this was straight from corporate.
BOOM :highfive:
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and that was from day 1? Obviously there has been debate about this on this forum and people much smarter than I have agued that it will never get LTE...
do you remember if there is something that has to be enabled? Or if say where I live they activate the LTE tower, boom it will work?

Its been a while so I dont remember the details, but I am convinced that
1. We will NOTget LTE one our GS3.
2. It doesn't really matter. By the time the majority of us get LTE in our market, we will have moved on to an even better phone! Also, most of us will get hspa+42 soon which for now is more than sufficient for almost everyones needs.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Its been a while so I dont remember the details, but I am convinced that
1. We will NOTget LTE one our GS3.
2. It doesn't really matter. By the time the majority of us get LTE in our market, we will have moved on to an even better phone! Also, most of us will get hspa+42 soon which for now is more than sufficient for almost everyones needs.
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I think these threads need to be shut down. There are a number of other threads exactly like this that holds the correct information. Thanks Doc

I agree with Doc, we'll probably be on better phones by the time we have decent LTE reception -- and I'm happy enough with the DC-HSPA+ modem.
IMHO, they will likely release a Galaxy S3 [4G] LTE as an interm between the S3 and the S4. WRT LTE, all I know is what I see on Wikipedia's snapdragon article. Which isn't very clear on details. Also numerous MSM8960 phones /w LTE exist but do we even know if it's on die, let along bothering to crack open an AT&T and T-Mobile GS3 for a little hardware compare?

So afye reading this I have a question.... if you guys are saying that our phones arent capable then why on my phone (running frosty jb v7) are there 2 system apps called LTESettings.apk and LTETest.apk??? Are these not for our phone and are just ther e due to it being a port? And if so can I safely remove them so they are taking away ram and battery? Thanks in advanced
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rawdaddymagraden said:
So afye reading this I have a question.... if you guys are saying that our phones arent capable then why on my phone (running frosty jb v7) are there 2 system apps called LTESettings.apk and LTETest.apk??? Are these not for our phone and are just ther e due to it being a port? And if so can I safely remove them so they are taking away ram and battery? Thanks in advanced
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They serve no purpose to our devices so yes you can remove them. Just in case, make a backup first. Like move them to memory card or something.
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elesbb said:
They serve no purpose to our devices so yes you can remove them. Just in case, make a backup first. Like move them to memory card or something.
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Thanks I did so w/o issues
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By the time lte does roll out... The galaxy s4 will be out and most of us will switch to it. And I'm pretty sure the s4 will support lte
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Crisisx1 said:
By the time lte does roll out... The galaxy s4 will be out and most of us will switch to it. And I'm pretty sure the s4 will support lte
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It is dependent upon wether we have the hardware included I believe.
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rawdaddymagraden said:
It is dependent upon wether we have the hardware included I believe.
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Samsung would only fail if they didn't include lte hardware in the new galaxy s4 especially because it's being released after tmobile starts rolling out lte which is February 2013
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Maybe I am the only one. LTE is not very efficient. I am happy with 3g+++.Tmo 3g super sized is a very good system. My company provided LTE hot spot sucks bandwidth like no other. Be careful what you ask for.

[Q] AT&T or International

I'm in a unique position to trade my International Note II for a brand new AT&T Note II. I can't make up my mind, so I'd like to see what you guys think.
This is how I see it:
Advantages to International Model:
No Bloatware
Tethering works out of the box (though it's easy to download Foxfi)
Timely updates
Has split screen already
Advantages to AT&T version
LTE
While LTE is nice, my HSPA+ speeds are plenty fast. I'm just not sure it's worth it to move to a branded device for faster internet. What do you guys think? I know the AT&T model will get the split screen eventually, but it will likely be months and every update after that will be on the International model long before the branded model sees it.

Do you root and/or flash custom ROMs/kernels? It really depends on your use case. Personally, I am staying stock for a bit, but I'll eventually root; I am on AT&T.
greyhulk said:
I'm in a unique position to trade my International Note II for a brand new AT&T Note II. I can't make up my mind, so I'd like to see what you guys think.
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wtharp2 said:
Do you root and/or flash custom ROMs/kernels? It really depends on your use case. Personally, I am staying stock for a bit, but I'll eventually root; I am on AT&T.
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I don't really do custom ROMs, but I have been rooting lately just to block ads (hate them). So custom roms isn't really a factor.

Can anyone confirm if AT&T removed the display mode switcher (i.e. dynamic, standard, movie, etc.) from theirs? They did in the GSIII, though I have absolutely no idea why they don't just leave it in. It hurts nothing.

Id root and run international firmware with lte
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The International version won't run on att lte bands. I say you would be better off getting the att version and then running something like clean rom on it.
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Agreed. Get an AT&T, root it, flash with the international, and get the best of both worlds.
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The International version won't run on att lte bands. I say you would be better off getting the att version and then running something like clean rom on it.
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greyhulk said:
Can anyone confirm if AT&T removed the display mode switcher (i.e. dynamic, standard, movie, etc.) from theirs? They did in the GSIII, though I have absolutely no idea why they don't just leave it in. It hurts nothing.
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No it was not removed.
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I know you said you don't do customs ROM, but doesn't make sense to so. AT&T Note II with a custom and you get ALL the benefits (and more).
I wasn't gonna root, but went ahead because I wanted the multi-window. Now I can use multi-window with any app I want, have no bloat, LTE and get better battery life. Extremely happy ROMed Note II.

I just switched from the International model to the ATT one. The LTE alone is worth it plus you can port ROM's.
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Thanks for the advice, guys. Made the swap today and rooted. Now I'm just on the hunt for the right ROM.

[Q] Anybody know if T-Mobile HD Voice works on Note II?

As mentioned in title there is a new feature out that can be read about here > HD Voice News
I'm wondering if anyone knows whether it works for Note II as well. They only list 3 phones on the story, however it doesn't explicitly exclude other phones. Just curious.

I was wondering that myself, my coworker had me call his friend that was on a Nexus 4 and the call seemed to be very clear, but I couldn't tell whether it was "HD Voice" or not since there is no indication of it on either of our phones.

We have the required chip, but I don't think the required settings in the firmware are active.

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We have the required chip, but I don't think the required settings in the firmware are active.
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Did some research found this quote "The new SKU will apparently launch before the network goes live with the LTE radios disabled, but once the towers are up and delivering the juice T-Mobile will issue a software upgrade to enable them. Those who bought the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 may not need a new phone, though, as that phone did come with the dormant LTE radios during its first run. We imagine T-Mobile will issue a similar software upgrade for it":laugh:

radron said:
Did some research found this quote "The new SKU will apparently launch before the network goes live with the LTE radios disabled, but once the towers are up and delivering the juice T-Mobile will issue a software upgrade to enable them. Those who bought the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 may not need a new phone, though, as that phone did come with the dormant LTE radios during its first run. We imagine T-Mobile will issue a similar software upgrade for it":laugh:
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Ok, but that is talking about lte radio, not the hd voice chip.
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I work for t-mo
HD Voice only works, at least for now, on the:
- HTC one S,
-Nokia Lumia 810,
-GS3
GN2 is yet to be confirmed but what we do know is that it only works between T-MO phones and it HAS to be amongst these 3. ****FOR NOW AT LEAST****

Mil0812 said:
HD Voice only works, at least for now, on the:
- HTC one S,
-Nokia Lumia 810,
-GS3
GN2 is yet to be confirmed but what we do know is that it only works between T-MO phones and it HAS to be amongst these 3. ****FOR NOW AT LEAST****
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If the GS3 can do it then we can do it. It just needs a patch for the firmware to use it. Which will probably come out when we have our LTE radios turned on.

What does it have to do with LTE getting switched on. Current GS3 doesnt even have an LTE radio.
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slybarman said:
What does it have to do with LTE getting switched on. Current GS3 doesnt even have an LTE radio.
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Read the press release again. Current GS3 owners got jipped. T-Mobile is re-releasing the GS3 with an LTE radio.

slybarman said:
What does it have to do with LTE getting switched on. Current GS3 doesnt even have an LTE radio.
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It doesn't directly but when they patch our phone to turn on LTE they will probably enable hd voice also. Radio has nothing to do with HD voice. HD voice is dependent on the sound codec on our phone, but it makes sense to do it when you are already patching the system.

I expect the exynos security patch and maybe even 4.2 before LTE.
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slybarman said:
What does it have to do with LTE getting switched on. Current GS3 doesnt even have an LTE radio.
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I expect the exynos security patch and maybe even 4.2 before LTE.
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Well I expect LTE very soon. What would be the point of turning on LTE in Vegas if you have no phones that support it. They plan to do it in the next couple of weeks.

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Well I expect LTE very soon. What would be the point of turning on LTE in Vegas if you have no phones that support it. They plan to do it in the next couple of weeks.
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. . . to be able to say you have an LTE network of course!
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slybarman said:
. . . to be able to say you have an LTE network of course!
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Well I can be the optimist and you can be the pessimist. I don't see the point of rolling out two or three software updates in a one year when they can address it all in one big update. The international note 2 doesn't even have 4.2 yet. I bet we see 412 with HD Voice and LTE radio enabled first.

Yup - we'll see. Btw, battery life might take a hit if the LTE radio is switched on. We might not want it on too soon.
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slybarman said:
Yup - we'll see. Btw, battery life might take a hit if the LTE radio is switched on. We might not want it on too soon.
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My friend has an AT&T Note 2 in an LTE market and he still gets about 16 hours of regular use. I get about 16 - 18 with regular use so we will see. LTE radios have gotten better at using batteries. I remember that the first killed batteries like they were going out of style.

The other piece I wondering about is what happens when the LTE radio is activated in a non-LTE market. Does it go searching for signal in some way like the regular cell radio in a poor signal area. That is murder on the battery.
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slybarman said:
The other piece I wondering about is what happens when the LTE radio is activated in a non-LTE market. Does it go searching for signal in some way like the regular cell radio in a poor signal area. That is murder on the battery.
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Good question. I am sure they will put a toggle to turn it on and off. How does the Note2 LTE and GS3 LTE handle it, I wonder.

macklinjudith1 said:
Then clear cache and factory reset.
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Sounds like an awesome answer in search of a question.
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