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[Q] Why not make a theme and stop making a duplicate ROM with a theme on it?

Ok, I'm properly going to get a lot of negative people on here telling me to go F$%K myself or whatever which will properly include the supposedly "developers" of these so called roms of the links below as well BUT I'm going to say it anyways!
What happened to all the creative developers on here? I mean I admire XxXViRuSXxX, Cyanogen and echoside to name a few BUT I think the rest need to step up their game because looking at other forums on here and is not even close to the quality of work! I'm not sure about everyone else on here because every time I think I got you guys figured out, I get surprised BUT I'm tired of seeing a CM7 ROM with a theme on it and being posted in the development section! Oh and is not only CM7 Roms....is Sense Roms as well with NOTHING to add or anything....is an exact copy of the freaking rom! I could understand if you made a change to something other then a freaking .png then I wouldn't be as mad but when you just switch out .png's and call yourself a developer...COME ON, that's BULL!!
Now I know what's coming (I hope..lol), you guys are going to say that I'm wrong and that I need to chill out BUT I would like for someone to explain these roms below to me.......BECAUSE they don't provide nothing special except a theme!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1067648
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039921
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1055623
I could pull up more but I think 3 was enough to prove my point.....
If you going to make a duplicate rom with a theme then do me and hopefully everyone else a favor and just make a .zip and post it in the themes and apps section because is getting OLD....it really is!
Oh and sorry for the rant but I just needed to get that off my chest....LOL

I agree to an extent
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Go F%$K YOURSELF!
LOL

Well, let us look at those three links you posted. You kind of lose your credibility by using those as your main argument.
Anyone with half a brain will realize that those threads look like failures. They barely have posts in them. People respond to the ROMs that interest them--and ROMs like that don't interest people, simple as that.
There's no way to just make people stop doing that, but it is quite obvious that the people who do that don't get many hits. They don't contribute anything, so people don't pay attention to them.
We have some amazing developers here, like Cyanogen, Virus, Myn, and so on. You said it yourself.
The development forums for the Evo are quite active, and so it is pretty obvious that you would have people who want to try to look like developers posting carbon copy ROMs.
I agree with you on the basic idea of the thread though; you aren't a ROM developer if you simply make a theme and throw some apps in. You're a theme developer. I would enjoy more creative and interesting ROMs, but I also at the same time feel that the Evo developer community delivers very well, and I'm glad we have all of the great developers we do.
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Good job sora. I've been telling you that for a while. Looks like you finally understand

Jmoney47 said:
Good job sora. I've been telling you that for a while. Looks like you finally understand
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I've always understood that. >=(

[Q] need someone to help with learning how to make roms

i wanna get into the dev community. I realized i use what people make, but unlike alot of people, i wanna give back a little. Basically what im asking for is someone for me to message throughout this whole ordeal, and help me with some step by step things, walkthroughs, videos, anything to help me get going. Id prefer them to be roms devs themselves. i also enjoy long walks on the beach and just getting to know each other

I'm in the same boat bro. I wanna get into it as well, although I don't have the time to devote to it right now.
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SynysterSilence said:
i wanna get into the dev community. I realized i use what people make, but unlike alot of people, i wanna give back a little. Basically what im asking for is someone for me to message throughout this whole ordeal, and help me with some step by step things, walkthroughs, videos, anything to help me get going. Id prefer them to be roms devs themselves. i also enjoy long walks on the beach and just getting to know each other
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there are numerous tutorials on xda, rootz, and other sites on building from source and/or making sense (oem skin) roms
theres no quick step to get going, though building straight from someones source (which isnt really developing) requires just a few commands once ur build environment is set up
really though, most rom devs (well maybe not most, but many) started with theming first to get gain a working knowledge of the structure/set up of a rom and what controls what...as well as basically smali editing/apk decompiling and the tools needed
aosp requires a semi working knowledge of java to actually build your own things rather than syncing and building someone elses
there are plenty of devs that enjoying helping new folks out...but its kind of understood that you ll do some research on your own and have some knowledge of what ur doing...its a lot to kind of ask someone to talk you through every single thing that goes into it
from my own personal experience it, it took me several months of theming before i felt confident enough to tackle a rom project...and even then they were rom collaborations with people a lot smarter than me (sbrissen, adrynalyne, imnuts, etc)

nitsuj17 said:
there are numerous tutorials on xda, rootz, and other sites on building from source and/or making sense (oem skin) roms
theres no quick step to get going, though building straight from someones source (which isnt really developing) requires just a few commands once ur build environment is set up
really though, most rom devs (well maybe not most, but many) started with theming first to get gain a working knowledge of the structure/set up of a rom and what controls what...as well as basically smali editing/apk decompiling and the tools needed
aosp requires a semi working knowledge of java to actually build your own things rather than syncing and building someone elses
there are plenty of devs that enjoying helping new folks out...but its kind of understood that you ll do some research on your own and have some knowledge of what ur doing...its a lot to kind of ask someone to talk you through every single thing that goes into it
from my own personal experience it, it took me several months of theming before i felt confident enough to tackle a rom project...and even then they were rom collaborations with people a lot smarter than me (sbrissen, adrynalyne, imnuts, etc)
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so if i were to start off with theming, what tools/programs would i need for my windows 7 running computer?

SynysterSilence said:
so if i were to start off with theming, what tools/programs would i need for my windows 7 running computer?
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JDK, SDK, apktool, gimp, notepad++,and there's a search tool that I can't remember off the top of my head. That's all I got right now. And all I'm gonna run for a while.
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awesome, now where do i go to start learning how to theme?

SynysterSilence said:
awesome, now where do i go to start learning how to theme?
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This might help...my really old fascinate theme guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932856

nitsuj17 said:
This might help...my really old fascinate theme guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932856
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wow good stuff bro thanks alot

wow this is actually just about what im looking for. its not very in depth, mostly the basics from the looks of it, but it sure as hell is a great start. i appreciate it.

I'm taking a java course this summer to help me make some ROMs. I would recommend it.
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i would but i dont have the time nor the money for it. my dads got his masters in computers tho i could probably get help from him for things like that.

My parents gave me their old laptop, I have ubuntu on it. When I get the time, I want to create my ROM based on CM9. I want to learn Java too, because I would like to do some themeing too.

sjpritch25 said:
My parents gave me their old laptop, I have ubuntu on it. When I get the time, I want to create my ROM based on CM9. I want to learn Java too, because I would like to do some themeing too.
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Theming doesn't require java knowledge

So Long Team Gummy :-[

copy and pasted from Rootz
Kejar posted on Twitter:
An end to an era - RIP Gummy
Well guys I think I am done with Gummy. It has been fun but too costly on mine and family’s time. Over the last few months I have really lost interest and this has become more of a job than something I did for fun. Adam and I have talked and we both agree that the whole project has just burnt us out. To do a proper Gummy with JB would require way more work than I am really willing to put into it at this point.
I am not quitting completely, I am just done running a project. I am sure you will see me here and there helping other teams/friends out. It was fun while it lasted but everything has to come to an end.

Hate to see this happen ... I've run nothing but their work from day one on this phone, it has always been flawless and packed with features. I will stick with the Linaro3 build for now I guess and not migrate to 4.1 until I find out whose is the best out there with some of the features like added buttons and such that I have grown accustomed to. Not into tweaking power settings and such.
Thanks guys for all of the awesome time and work you had put into the community. You were truly under appreciated and will be missed.

THIS IS NOT DEVELOPMENT MATERIAL
READ FORUM RULES AND STICKIES
THREAD MOVED
FNM

I'm gutted. Ive been runny their ROM for ages and love it. Can't fault anything. Don't know what ROM I'm going to use for JB now as I was looking forward to their ROM.
Truly gutted

Ankh87 said:
I'm gutted. Ive been runny their ROM for ages and love it. Can't fault anything. Don't know what ROM I'm going to use for JB now as I was looking forward to their ROM.
Truly gutted
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kejar31 released a JB form AOSP ROM for Toro, Im pissed no Maguro build but if u want it its out here

Man....so long Team Gummy. Been a good run. I understand that its too demanding but hey, that's what happens when you put out a great ROM. The public demands it!
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Can xda or a moderator even a veteran of xda help.

Ok first a thank you goes out to all the developers before I go on my rant and question. I started rooting awhile back but got real serious with my s2. This site and people here taught me a lot just by reading and following instructions. Now I was away for awhile playing around with iPhones ( I know I know don't kill me) anyway I went back to my android with a s3 and my wife a one x. I ran stock for a few months but as you all know once you go custom it's hard to stay stock. So I rooted a week ago but can't find a Rom I want to run. Now this not for the lack of roms that sound and look good but things have changed so much on this site I don't know what to run. With my s2 I would look at a Rom read through comments about what was working, not working, or problems the Rom has and fixs. So on to my question. Pardon me but wth is going on with dev.forum. I look at a Rom and have to sift through pages and pages of crap that should be else where. People talking trash about developers, people fighting cause one person says yes but didn't read another's question. I wanted to learn how to make mods and work my way up to roms but I can't even find what Rom I want to use through all the crap. What happened to all that stuff being removed and such? Anyway enough of the soap box if there is anyone that really knows what their talking about like a mod. A developer or such that when they have time help me find a Rom that works for me. I asked before and got 2 roms recommended and of course the just try one till you like it but again I can't get through the crap on here. Sorry people who wasn't to talk trash about what a Rom did to your phone but if you would read through post without all the crap you can tell if you want to try it just by responses. Anyway any help would be helpful. Thanks for reading.
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Just some advice, not trying to be rude or anything, but most people won't read a big wall of text like that. Break up your post into a few paragraphs so that it's readable and you'll get a lot better response.

I get what your saying, but that's also my point I have read long blocks of text about roms and problems. Give the reason why I didn't have to join till middle of this year to ask questions because answers where there. Not reading even if it's a wall of text seams to be part of the problem.
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I can only speak for myself but as a long time user of Android this Dev is one of many top notch working on the SGSIII.
This rom is Solid, stable and my DD.
YMMV
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796502

Story of every devs life, they should up the post count to 30 to keep noobs out of development with their useless questions. Although that wouldn't deter them much. What were you running previously on your s2(aokp,cm,what was the base)? That would help with pointing you in the right direction ROM wise
AT&T SGS3 Marble White
ParanoidKangDroid 1.4 ROM
KT747 11/13 OC'ed & UV'ed
Medical Marijuana Supporter

I was running blazer as my daily driver. I thought out was a great Rom for the s2. I'm not big on the nexus look. Which most roms do but I guess I could also theme one away from that look.
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kleigh774 said:
I was running blazer as my daily driver. I thought out was a great Rom for the s2. I'm not big on the nexus look. Which most roms do but I guess I could also theme one away from that look.
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Blazer ROM on sprint for s3, you could flash that if you get sprint modems: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746184
Or there are ways of porting it. Supposed to be a script someewhere around here. Gonna have to search for that though if you want blazer. Oh wait I found it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927729
On the at&t side I would recommend frosty jellybean or dragon origins 3.0, both are touch wiz based.
Aosp, I'd recommend tasks aokp, paranoid android, or paranoidkangdroid. Hope this helps.
AT&T SGS3 Marble White
ParanoidKangDroid 1.4 ROM
KT747 11/13 OC'ed & UV'ed
Medical Marijuana Supporter

I know this gets a little into the problem you commented on in the OP, but a lot depends on a couple of things. Do you like TouchWiz? If you do there a few options, a few of them will be ICS(LH1) and a few are Jelly Bean. Personally the best one out there is Triune(Not that any others are bad), there are also a couple of TW JellyBean ROM's too, Serenity 1.2 is a AT&T Rom ported from the Note II, which I have great luck with. If you are not interested in a "stock" ROM, then we're talking CM or AOSP, and obviously CM10(JB) is a huge name out there, but in the AOSP world there is Task's, The Collective, and Liquidsmooth. I haven't run Liquids yet, but my phone REALLY liked The Collective's ROM. For me, the only JB Roms that dont crush my battery is The Collective's AOCP, and with the Stock TW Roms, it doesnt get any better than Triune II
I know it's kind of a pain to wade through, but unfortunately, you need to try them for yourself. It really is the only way

kangi26 said:
I know this gets a little into the problem you commented on in the OP, but a lot depends on a couple of things. Do you like TouchWiz? If you do there a few options, a few of them will be ICS(LH1) and a few are Jelly Bean. Personally the best one out there is Triune(Not that any others are bad), there are also a couple of TW JellyBean ROM's too, Serenity 1.2 is a AT&T Rom ported from the Note II, which I have great luck with. If you are not interested in a "stock" ROM, then we're talking CM or AOSP, and obviously CM10(JB) is a huge name out there, but in the AOSP world there is Task's, The Collective, and Liquidsmooth. I haven't run Liquids yet, but my phone REALLY liked The Collective's ROM. For me, the only JB Roms that dont crush my battery is The Collective's AOCP, and with the Stock TW Roms, it doesnt get any better than Triune II
I know it's kind of a pain to wade through, but unfortunately, you need to try them for yourself. It really is the only way
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You are the second one to lead me towards that rom,i tried a few jb roms today and had some issues, same as when i had the s2, before ics all the ics roms had problems. Which is probley why i stuck with blazer since it was a gb based rom with upgrades. Thanks for all the help to es veryone who has responded also. I understand you have to play around with the roms some i guess my bigger question was how did xda dev. forums get so childish. Seams to be alot of arguments that dont need to be there. I couldnt belive it when i seen people telling devolpers to hurry up,and if they dont update there rom every 2 weeks they should be shut down?? It just crawled all over me because they dont have to be doing any of this. I mean my kids dont yell at the people that dont GIVE them the good candy during trick or treat.

kleigh774 said:
You are the second one to lead me towards that rom,i tried a few jb roms today and had some issues, same as when i had the s2, before ics all the ics roms had problems. Which is probley why i stuck with blazer since it was a gb based rom with upgrades. Thanks for all the help to es veryone who has responded also. I understand you have to play around with the roms some i guess my bigger question was how did xda dev. forums get so childish. Seams to be alot of arguments that dont need to be there. I couldnt belive it when i seen people telling devolpers to hurry up,and if they dont update there rom every 2 weeks they should be shut down?? It just crawled all over me because they dont have to be doing any of this. I mean my kids dont yell at the people that dont GIVE them the good candy during trick or treat.
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Yeah, some of the users can get a bit childish in their expectations and their responses. It can be a little trying sometimes, and I've seen more than one dev step out because of it. It's too bad. But, people have also started stepping up and reporting bad posts to the mods, which seem to help some. With the amount of users here now, it's a little to be expected. You have to have the good with the bad

I feel like expressing myself about the roms and kernels available right now for S3;

I've been around since cyanogenmod was just another rom along with bugless beast and whatever the hell was running things on eclair/mytouch and ive compiled kernels hundreds of times back when slackware linux 3.5 was out so i feel like im somewhat of a vet and i appreciate the fact that i have a nice little linux device permanently connected to a broadband connection with so much support in a neat little package.
=)!
and yet i never say anything on XDA i just appreciate... unfortunately i cant post in the development forum because i dont say much ;/
big thumbs up to cyanogenmod for taking their work so seriously and being so persistent, you guys must really love what you do, trust me i know the feeling =]
i just got this phone last week and before i did anything i rooted and installed the latest CM with whatever kernel appealed to me in the dev forum and i thought seriously my screen was defective i had no idea it was just a rom/kernel issue so im glad that over with.
i updated to cm22, and the flicker started again when using the 4/20 KT kernel so ill just stick with cm20 +kt420 for now what an unbelievable combo!
and i'm kinda disappointed in AOKP every time i check the AOKP/task thread somebody is always complaining about something that doesn't work... AOKP used to be my favorite. (when the ICS days began atleast.. i loved it on my gnex)
and by the way... to people having problems flashing between kernels, when you flash a kernel, wipe cache/dalvik, then flash the rom again, then gapps, then the new kernel. kernels include more things than just addition lines of code nowadays and thats the simplest way to work around most issues i see people posting about.
that is all!

Somebody is always complaining about things not working? I see every post in my thread and I don't see what you are talking about. 99.9% of the people that post state how well everything works. The people that complain are the ones that don't follow the simple installation instructions. You might need to read through the thread again. Or just try it out for yourself.

task650 said:
Somebody is always complaining about things not working? I see every post in my thread and I don't see what you are talking about. 99.9% of the people that post state how well everything works. The people that complain are the ones that don't follow the simple installation instructions. You might need to read through the thread again. Or just try it out for yourself.
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+1, agreed.
Just like the guy who wants to request a theme for a rom, that morphology has for that same rom.
READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Coming from the skyrocket which had a pretty good community I am really pleased with what developers do in their spare time and decide to share when it comes to this device.
There are so many options it can keep a flash junkie busy for a while.
Keep up the great work devs!
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I love these threads....I have an idea: If you are disappointed why don't you step up and create a solution or make your own ROM? Its easy to complain about FREE work when you don't contribute whatsoever.

True, don't complain about something people spend all their time on and give away for free ...
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We have a large dev community compared to many devices out there. I actually came from a galaxy nexus because I got bored of only aosp roms that were all pretty much the same.

(sorry, had to do it )

Tasks AOKP is by far the best ROM out there for the AT&T S3. I have run it longer than any other ROM i've tried and have had absolutely zero problems with it. I will never use anything else for this phone. Just my personal experience of course.

Whoaa guys ease up on the bashing... OP had only one sentence in his post that was negative everything else was positive.
I think everyone appreciates the hard work and time that devs put into all the different roms/kernels available out there.

Up until the late, I can agree that the 3.4 kernel builds (for any ROM including Tasks) weren't all that great which is why I was using CarbonROM with the BMS kernel (3.0).
But I updated to Tasks 4/23 and everything has been great...super super smooth.

Tasks updated kernel has been smooth. I'm running his newest now, flashes it a few hours ago and love it. The devs for the S3 are wonderful. So many more options than other android phones I've had in the past.
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If I'm reading right, OP is disappointed in AOKP and Task's AOKP.... and hasn't tried them yet?
It takes me longer to download a ROM than it does to flash it, restore data and check out all the main features for functionallity..... and you're calling them out by name without trying them?
Gutsy move.

Nothing wrong with AOKP and we have a fantastic aosp community. They seem to be more active then the original development. If anything I'm disappointed with the lack of touchwiz ROMs. All and all. We have a good community and a good group of developers here. /end thread.
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This thread sucks, I want the last 5 minutes back

3rd party ROMs are always works in progress. its not like anyone here is hiding the fact that these are all "in development". not all ROMs are "for" everyone, but that's the beauty of it, there's a flavor for everyone.
I personally prefer ROMs that are subtle improvements to the stock experience which give me a more enhanced version of what Samsung intended. BUT, there are times I'll think about getting a nexus 4, so I'll run a aosp/cm/aokp based ROM while scratching that itch. or those days I wished I had a note 2, we've got options with multi window and page buddy fully working.
if you don't like it, don't use it... simple as that. I've never critisized a ROM or developer if I don't "get" their work, that just means its not a good fit for me and I move on.

andy55 said:
This thread sucks, I want the last 5 minutes back
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Here you go, enjoy!

Task and his minions bashing another nice guy stating his appreciation...... Big surprise.
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blaker13 said:
Task and his minions bashing another nice guy stating his appreciation...... Big surprise.
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Huh?
1.) Looks as though you forgot something as simple as reading. Read my post again. If you consider any of that one post as bashing then I think you might need to check the emotional state you are in at the time that you read it.
2.) You're definitely not reading the OP. He pretty much stated that he hasn't even tried the ROM before judging it. That right there speaks for itself.
3.) Please do yourself a favor and grow up a little. Stirring up the pot with the highschool antics doesnt accomplish anything.
4.) Gold stars for you dude. Keep on contributing this wasteful drama here in a development site. That makes a ton of sense.