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Review of Anker Astro Slim2 4500 mAh External battery w/pics!!!

This is a review of Anker Astro Slim2 4500 mAh dual output External battery (5V 1A Input, 5V 1A dual output with built in hideaway cable for one of the output ports): http://www.ianker.com/product/79ANS4552-BA
Every time I start to think about extended battery, I run into a big question of what am I going to do with all my cases that no longer going to fit the phone. That is why I decided to explore external battery solution. I don't trust no-name ebay brands because those have overly exaggerated capacity rating. So I turned to a trusted brand, Anker, since so many people in this forum had a lot of positive things to say about their products. In comparison to our stock 3100 mAh battery, this Slim2 external battery is not over the top with its 4500 mAh labeled capacity. If you take into consideration all the conversion factors between external lithium battery, USB port transport, and back to phone's battery, we are talking about final capacity which could realistically be closer to 3100 mAh (and actually stated in the manual as 30% internal power consumption due to losses). What makes the battery stand out is it's unbelievable slim form factor and all the design details that go with it.
When you first take it in your hand you can't believe how light and slim it is. We are talking about 10mm slim! I actually took exact measurement with my digital caliper and found it to be 4.97" x 2.52" x 0.41" (126.34mm x 64.08mm x 10.64mm) and weight to be 4.1 oz (116g) which also includes built-in micro-usb cable. I can see that a lot of thought went into it's design. The case of this external battery is made out of tough plastic with a matte finish and sides have a rubbery finish for a nice grip. The form factor is very slick, something that can go easily into your pocket or purse or even carried in one hand attached externally to your phone. The unit has one micro-usb input port which is cleverly covered by hideaway micro-usb output cable/connector, and another regular usb output port. Pretty much it eliminates a need to carry any external cables since the one you need for your Android device is already built-in. The cable for that external micro-usb connector is flat, flexible, and just long enough to wrap around the end of the battery pack, and it should be sufficient to connect to any phone or tablet. As part of the accessories that come with Slim2, you also get usb-to-micro-usb extension cable with additional mini-usb adapter and Apple 30pin adapter. This second regular usb Output port also comes very handy for another important reason. If you look at the pictures I took, you can see that hideaway micro-usb connector has trapezoid shape. It should work fine with most of the slim or rugged cases that have silicone or tpu inner shell/bumper surrounding micro-usb port opening. With my UAG case is was a very close call where I had to push it in with some force. This hideaway port will not work with Defender case due to its inner plastic shell suited and standard rectangular port opening. That's where 2nd usb output port comes in handy to use external usb cable with a regular micro-usb connector.
There is no power button, instead you have auto on/off capability and display of battery capacity using 4 led lights partitioned in 25% increments. Every time you plug/unplug power cable those lights lit up to show you capacity level or charging level. Also, auto shut off reassures that you will not overcharge the battery once it reaches 100%. I charged this battery to 100% (indicated by 4 solid lights), and used with my Note 2 which was down to 55%. To my surprise charging time was very fast considering it has 1A output, and I was able to get my phone back to 100% within 1.5 hour with 2 led lights remaining thus indicating that battery still had 50% of charge left. That is consistent with my assumption of battery capacity to be around 3100 mAh.
Overall, I'm very pleased with Slim2 as an emergency battery pack. It's slim, easy to grip, light weight, small footprint, NO need for external cables (unless if you have a case like Defender), and ability to charge 2 devices simultaneously. Furthermore, if you remember my mod with clip stand from a car mount, I actually found it to fit together really well which is great, for example, while watching a movie and charging your phone up at the same. Everything is captured in pictures below!
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With a clip-stand:

awesome, gonna get one

initial_k said:
awesome, gonna get one
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Keep in mind, you will get about 3100 mAh of actual charge, these external batteries actual rating is 30% down from the label due to usb 5V conversion factor.
This one is not the highest capacity, but it's the slimmest one for sure. It actually saved us a few times when our Nexus 7 tablet was drained and I just sticked it in between book-cover case and was using a tablet while charging it up (with 1A output you get a relatively decent charging speed).

vectron said:
Keep in mind, you will get about 3100 mAh of actual charge, these external batteries actual rating is 30% down from the label due to usb 5V conversion factor.
This one is not the highest capacity, but it's the slimmest one for sure. It actually saved us a few times when our Nexus 7 tablet was drained and I just sticked it in between book-cover case and was using a tablet while charging it up (with 1A output you get a relatively decent charging speed).
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Need to get something for my kid's Droid DNA. It doesn't have a lot of power for a day traipsing in the wilderness, and won't take a larger external. This might fit the bill.

drnihili said:
Need to get something for my kid's Droid DNA. It doesn't have a lot of power for a day traipsing in the wilderness, and won't take a larger external. This might fit the bill.
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Anker Astro 3E is only $10 more and offers 10,000 mAh versus this 4500 mAh. Unless they need something super slim/light, Astro 3E is a better value in my opinion, and still has a relatively small footprint.

vectron said:
Anker Astro 3E is only $10 more and offers 10,000 mAh versus this 4500 mAh. Unless they need something super slim/light, Astro 3E is a better value in my opinion, and still has a relatively small footprint.
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No astro 4 is better 13000mAh
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vectron said:
Anker Astro 3E is only $10 more and offers 10,000 mAh versus this 4500 mAh. Unless they need something super slim/light, Astro 3E is a better value in my opinion, and still has a relatively small footprint.
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He'd like both.
We live (or soon will) in 70 acres of forest and he likes to go off wandering most of the day. Between camera, gps tracking and the like that can be a challenge for the DNA, especially if he's forgotten to top it off first. I'm really looking for something he can just toss in his pocket/daypack to be sure he has enough juice to get through the day. Looking at the 5600mah also. It may be more pocektable. He's never gone over multiple days unless I'm' with him, and I've got the ZL9300, so no worries there. I'll have a look at the 3E and the 4 to see how much bigger they are. Certainly they'r a better value per mah, but the key is finding something that's very easy for him to take. As with cameras, the best external battery is the one you have with you when you need it.
EDIT: I like the form factor of the 5600 and 8400 better, but I like the included cable of this model. An external battery is of no use if you don't have a cable, and you know how 14 year olds can be ...

5600 and 8400 from Anker are the old models.
Btw, I just received and charging Astro Pro 14400 mAh - that one is a monster with two usb ports and a separate 9V/12V DC outputs. Will have review in a day or two

Will the attached micro usb fit the case mate tough?
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vr_nguyen said:
Well the attached micro usb fit the case mate tough?
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It should. With both UAG and CaseMate Tough cases the opening around micro-usb port is tpu material to that connector can wedge right in there. Tough port opening is wider than UAG, and I remember I had no issues wedging that micro usb connector right into UAG, so it should work with Tough as well.

I'm trying to think what's the advantage of this over an extra battery. It would make sense for those who carry several devices and does not want to carry several batteries. I for one only carry one device at a time, so I guess this would be useless for me.
Can you guys point out any other scenarios?
TIA
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vr_nguyen said:
I'm trying to think what's the advantage of this over an extra battery. It would make sense for those who carry several devices and does not want to carry several batteries. I for one only carry one device at a time, so I guess this would be useless for me.
Can you guys point out any other scenarios?
TIA
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When you're at home that's pretty much primarily use now the reason why the slim is more portable hence you can bring out on the road
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The reason to use this ultra-slim battery is very simple, you can hold it connected to the phone while actually using the phone.
This is a picture from Anker webpage. So for example you are facing a scenario where your phone went dead or you are on call or browsing and down to 2% - but you have to continue using your phone and don't have time to wait for charging. This is the only battery that will allow you to do that because you can actually hold it physically together with your phone (and use built-in cable) and it will be charging your phone while you are using it.

I just purchased this for powering my phone and other equipment when away from chargers.
I really like the form factor and the micro-USB cable is very clever. However this battery has a glaring problem (in my opinion): you cannot charge your phone from the battery while charging the battery. When traveling light and grabbing an all-night recharge this would be a nice feature to have to not have to carry two chargers and cables.
- Juha

kuikkaj said:
I just purchased this for powering my phone and other equipment when away from chargers.
I really like the form factor and the micro-USB cable is very clever. However this battery has a glaring problem (in my opinion): you cannot charge your phone from the battery while charging the battery. When traveling light and grabbing an all-night recharge this would be a nice feature to have to not have to carry two chargers and cables.
- Juha
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This feature disabled on purpose. I know some other vendors enable it, but it actually not good for the battery. You have two connections, from battery to a phone for charging of the phone, and from wall charger to a battery for charging of the battery. If you have both connected at the same time you will need a way to bypass charging of the battery until phone is charged up first - that pass will be extremely inefficient and it will take you almost twice as long to charge the battery due to all conversions. Then once you done, you will need another mechanism to stop charging of the phone and to switch to charging of the battery, and while you are doing that phone will be discharging so you will have to pick up it's charge as well. Too complicated, too inefficient, and complexity of control circuit will work against reliability of the device. At night it's much easier to charge phone from one outlet and battery from another, just need to get dual usb wall charger, like one of those 2A/1A ones. Charge the phone from 2A output and charge the battery from 1A output.

vectron said:
This feature disabled on purpose. I know some other vendors enable it, but it actually not good for the battery. You have two connections, from battery to a phone for charging of the phone, and from wall charger to a battery for charging of the battery. If you have both connected at the same time you will need a way to bypass charging of the battery until phone is charged up first - that pass will be extremely inefficient and it will take you almost twice as long to charge the battery due to all conversions. Then once you done, you will need another mechanism to stop charging of the phone and to switch to charging of the battery, and while you are doing that phone will be discharging so you will have to pick up it's charge as well. Too complicated, too inefficient, and complexity of control circuit will work against reliability of the device. At night it's much easier to charge phone from one outlet and battery from another, just need to get dual usb wall charger, like one of those 2A/1A ones. Charge the phone from 2A output and charge the battery from 1A output.
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I agree, the feature would make the design slightly more complex due to increased logic, unless the used charge IC supported something like that internally. It would not necessarily have to be inefficient as you can bypass the charger and just feed the input directly to output. Could be as simple as a switch controlled by the battery full information of the charger.
But I digress. For most people this is not an issue, I just like to travel light. :cyclops:
Would you by any chance know of a battery pack or vendor that would have this feature?
- Juha

kuikkaj said:
I agree, the feature would make the design slightly more complex due to increased logic, unless the used charge IC supported something like that internally. It would not necessarily have to be inefficient as you can bypass the charger and just feed the input directly to output. Could be as simple as a switch controlled by the battery full information of the charger.
But I digress. For most people this is not an issue, I just like to travel light. :cyclops:
Would you by any chance know of a battery pack or vendor that would have this feature?
- Juha
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I have reviewed so many Anker external batteries, already lost a count of everything lol!!! I think they had one that was charging both phone and charger, but they wouldn't recommend it. Or maybe that was one of the NewTrent batteries (NT70) I have reviewed in the past.
Btw, Anker is releasing AstroSlim3 in a week or so with 6000 mAh capacity (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CEZJT2E) and new Astro 3 with 12000 mAh (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CEZBKTO) with led indicator for capacity and no power button, activated by shaking it. Don't know the pricing yet, and hopefully will get both of these units for review as well.

Review of Anker 3.6A (18W) Dual USB Car Charger w/pics!

This is a review of Anker Bolt 3.6A (18W) Dual USB Car Charger: Anker Car Charger
From my own personal experience I use Note 2 every day as GPS to/from work. Everything is usually on (display, bluetooth), plus GPS/Google maps are up, and I take/make phone calls in a middle of all that. What does that mean? Battery is draining really fast, and even with car charger you need at least 2A output to be able to charge at faster rate than discharging with everything on. 2A charger is not hard to find, although question always come up if you can trust their actual rating. If you want to take it to the next level and charge another smart phone, you can probably find a dual charger with 2A and 1A, although reliability and current sharing during simultaneous use of ports might be in question. This new product from Anker took it to the next level where they are offering dual port output with 2.1A and 1.5A outputs and guarantee full current supply from each port at the same time. In terms of reliability, they are offering 18 months warranty which I think is a bold statement of confidence in their product.
3.6A, which is 18W, is a lot of power and to my surprise the charger was actually very small and lightweight. The dimensions of the end with dual ports is only 26 mm x 24 mm, and the whole charger is very lightweight and only 22g. This small size is very convenient for tight spaces like in your arm-rest compartment, and just in general is unobtrusive to use anywhere in the car. I know they advertise it as dual port with 2.1A for Apple (obviously iPad) and 1.5A for smart phones, but I confirmed that our Note 2 charges perfectly from Apple port. As a matter of fact that would be the best port to use for Note 2 fast charging. I took a picture in my car to demonstrate that both of the ports worked charging Note 2.
Overall it's a great little dual usb port car charger from a trusted company with a punch of 3.6A capacity split between 2.1A and 1.5A ports where both can be used simultaneously so you can do a fast charging of two devices at the same time. Plus, you can get it on Amazon for under $12 which is a bargain.
Here are a few pics:
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How fast does it charge though. Post pictures of charge progress over a 15-20 minutes period please

elite-fusion said:
How fast does it charge though. Post pictures of charge progress over a 15-20 minutes period please
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Don't know if I ever get around it. I'm testing my ZeroLemon 9300 mAh so I mostly discharging my battery rather than charging it up. Will take a while before I get to in car charging Beside for me timing charge in the car makes no sense because I use my N2 for GPS and calls all the time, so I'm discharging it at a heavy rate as it charges up. But for sure, it goes up 15%-20% with this charger during my 1hr commute, but only because I use GPS/BT/display fully on at max brightness. This car charger is true 2.1A/1.5A, so the charging time from 2.1A shouldn't be any different than our OEM wall charger.

vectron said:
Don't know if I ever get around it. I'm testing my ZeroLemon 9300 mAh so I mostly discharging my battery rather than charging it up. Will take a while before I get to in car charging Beside for me timing charge in the car makes no sense because I use my N2 for GPS and calls all the time, so I'm discharging it at a heavy rate as it charges up. But for sure, it goes up 15%-20% with this charger during my 1hr commute, but only because I use GPS/BT/display fully on at max brightness. This car charger is true 2.1A/1.5A, so the charging time from 2.1A shouldn't be any different than our OEM wall charger.
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You should be able to use the Galaxy Charge Current app (available on the play store) to see how much current it's supplying (although this may vary depending on the USB cable you use with it, a reason why I'm purchasing the variant with a built in micro-usb cable and a usb port) although I seem to remember you stating in another thread you had one of the US variants of the Note II and the app may not be compatible with those.

D3_ said:
You should be able to use the Galaxy Charge Current app (available on the play store) to see how much current it's supplying (although this may vary depending on the USB cable you use with it, a reason why I'm purchasing the variant with a built in micro-usb cable and a usb port) although I seem to remember you stating in another thread you had one of the US variants of the Note II and the app may not be compatible with those.
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That's right I'm on US version under Verizon. Those are the exact 2 variants that don't work with this app

D3_ said:
You should be able to use the Galaxy Charge Current app (available on the play store) to see how much current it's supplying (although this may vary depending on the USB cable you use with it, a reason why I'm purchasing the variant with a built in micro-usb cable and a usb port) although I seem to remember you stating in another thread you had one of the US variants of the Note II and the app may not be compatible with those.
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Quick update on this:
Although the Galaxy Charge Current app only reports the charger giving 1.2a, over an approximately 15 minute period with the screen on, music playback, GPS lock and video recording @ 720p with DailyRoads Voyager, the charger was still able to charge my N7100 from 80% to 86%, which isn't bad considering the heavy load it was under.
The particular charger I bought is this one

D3_ said:
Quick update on this:
Although the Galaxy Charge Current app only reports the charger giving 1.2a, over an approximately 15 minute period with the screen on, music playback, GPS lock and video recording @ 720p with DailyRoads Voyager, the charger was still able to charge my N7100 from 80% to 86%, which isn't bad considering the heavy load it was under.
The particular charger I bought is this one
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Pretty good! But the one you bought is their old generation 15W charger (2.1A and 1A outputs), while this one is a revised new gen 18W with 2.1A and 1.5A outputs - this one

vectron said:
Pretty good! But the one you bought is their old generation 15W charger (2.1A and 1A outputs), while this one is a revised new gen 18W with 2.1A and 1.5A outputs - this one
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Ah, thanks for the info. Seems I'm only missing out on 300mA though (one reviewer says the android port on that is rated at 1.5A and I get 1.2A from mine) so I don't think I'll go for that one. this way I know I'm going to get a decent charge no matter what usb cable I use. I've only got one that's actually capable of charging at full speed and having to take it everywhere I go would be annoying, the fixed charger on this is perfect for me.
Only posted here to help others looking for a decent car charger, as you did. Every other thread I see on the topic seems to recommend usb chargers such as yours but never recommend cables capable of utilising them to their full potential.
Anyway, keep up the great reviews
Most of them make me want to spend money I know I shouldn't on things I don't necessarily need
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D3_ said:
Ah, thanks for the info. Seems I'm only missing out on 300mA though (one reviewer says the android port on that is rated at 1.5A and I get 1.2A from mine) so I don't think I'll go for that one. this way I know I'm going to get a decent charge no matter what usb cable I use. I've only got one that's actually capable of charging at full speed and having to take it everywhere I go would be annoying, the fixed charger on this is perfect for me.
Only posted here to help others looking for a decent car charger, as you did. Every other thread I see on the topic seems to recommend usb chargers such as yours but never recommend cables capable of utilising them to their full potential.
Anyway, keep up the great reviews
Most of them make me want to spend money I know I shouldn't on things I don't necessarily need
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Do you have any recommendations for usb cables that can take advantage of that charge speed?

hurrpancakes said:
Do you have any recommendations for usb cables that can take advantage of that charge speed?
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Absolutely! I highly recommend to use Monoprice usb 28AWG/24AWG cables with Ferrite choker and gold-plated connectors. You need thicker cables to handle 2A current. Do not use thin computer cables designed for 500mA current.
Monoprice cables are very cheap too, 3ft for $1.08: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=8640&seq=1&format=2 or 6ft for $1.40: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=8641&seq=1&format=2

hurrpancakes said:
Do you have any recommendations for usb cables that can take advantage of that charge speed?
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I'd go with what Vectron suggested.
In the UK the only cable I've found that does is an old BlackBerry usb cable my cousin had. Swapped it for a spare cable I had that only did 1A because her phone only charges at 1A anyway.
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Absolutely! I highly recommend to use Monoprice usb 28AWG/24AWG cables with Ferrite choker and gold-plated connectors. You need thicker cables to handle 2A current. Do not use thin computer cables designed for 500mA current.
Monoprice cables are very cheap too, 3ft for $1.08: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=8640&seq=1&format=2 or 6ft for $1.40: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=8641&seq=1&format=2
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I assume their premium would also have the throughput and low resistance to work as well.

lovekeiiy said:
I assume their premium would also have the throughput and low resistance to work as well.
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Absolutely, it's low voltage drop cable design. Plus it never failed me in the car either if it's 100deg C or down to single digits.

Just ordered one to see if it'll trigger my iBolt Dock's USB charging/audio feature. Hopefully it does...if it doesn't, well least I can charge two phones in the car at once now.

Ordered these cables from monoprice, used with my original charger and couldn't get my ZL9300 charged over 72%. Kept it on charger for over 12 hours

VitaliyUvakin said:
Ordered these cables from monoprice, used with my original charger and couldn't get my ZL9300 charged over 72%. Kept it on charger for over 12 hours
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Can't be the cable. It's just a thick wire. If it would have been defective, you wouldn't be able to even charge it up to 72%, although you can never tell for sure. So you have used original Samsung 2A wall charger with it's original cable from the same AC wall outlet to charge up your Note 2 with Zerolemon before to 100% without any problem? I just want to baseline your working setup so you can troubleshoot from there. If it was working before in exactly the same setup and you only replaced the cable, can you go back to the original cable and see if it will charge it to 100% without a problem? If not, then it's something wrong with a cable. Make sure nothing funny is going on with your AC wall outlet plug. I discovered that in my house I have a few that not allowing me to do fast charging due to some electric wiring limitation. Also, make sure everything is connected all the way in. Depending on the case you are using, some of these micro-usb connectors are a bit too thick to go all the way in, and although it looks like you are charging - because connector is not mated all the way in, you have a bad contact and limiting charging current. I actually BET you that's exactly what is going on. I have so many usb-to-micro-usb cables around, can't keep track of it. But I remember at my work I had to slice a piece of micro-usb connector to make it thinner to work with my Zerolemon TPU, and I believe that was monoprice cable. Definitely check it out, cause that could be a problem in your case.

Everything was the same, same 2A charger, same outlet, same phone with ZL battery . Just replaced my Samy cable with 6ft one from monoprice. Will try again tomorrow with oem cable, will see how it goes

VitaliyUvakin said:
Everything was the same, same 2A charger, same outlet, same phone with ZL battery . Just replaced my Samy cable with 6ft one from monoprice. Will try again tomorrow with oem cable, will see how it goes
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Trim micro usb connector. Gotta be it.

It seems to fit pretty tight, but I will definitely try it.

Ha! The Anker direct store in ebay is selling this for $55!! What is it made of gold now? LOL.

[MOD] External Charger for ZeroLemon 9300 mAh battery w/pics!!!

From day one when I got ZeroLemon 9300 mAh battery, the question of external charger for this battery was on my mind. You get a monster capacity, but it will also take at least 3x as long to charge it up and you can only do that inside of your phone. It's OK if you run out of lemon juice and put your Note 2 on a charger overnight, but otherwise you better have a spare fully charged battery. Plus, for some of us the use of ZL battery will be not daily thing. Bottom line, external charger is a must have. I have talked to ZL support and they confirmed about looking into rapid external charger, but no details about it available yet. So I figured to try something out myself.
The challenge is that ZL battery looks like a stock footprint on top of a large plate. Most of the regular single battery charges have small footprint where they could mate with battery contacts but ZL will be top-heavy pulling out of the charger. I came across this cradle charger from Tmart.com, it's about $15 and as a bonus you can charge the battery and sync your phone. Got it from here: http://www.tmart.com/Twin-USB-Cradl...for-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-II-N7100_p173079.html - they actually have it in their US warehouse so it arrived very fast. As a cradle it's OK, although just like any vertical cradle-stand it can accept only a slim case or Note 2 without a case. Also, for some reason with an included ac-adapter you can't charge at more than 500 mA (it was forcing it into USB charging mode). But that wasn't my main purpose.
In order to fit ZeroLemon, I had to modify this case where the back support of the cradle/stand had to be leveled off. Since I use dremel for my mods, I actually included a picture below for those who are interested. Using a cutting wheel to slice it off, and griding wheel to smooth out the rough edges. Turned out to be very functional! Because of the wide base of the charger/cradle, there is no wobbling or worrying the battery will pop out of the charger. The only drawback is that charging led light is covered by the battery, but if you look sideways you can actually see it [edit]... tried charging with a stock battery, light was staying red while battery got charged up, after awhile turned blue, so don't count on red/blue as reliable indicator, although it charges up ok... [/edit]. I took my depleted ZL (it was down to 3%) and set it on the charger overnight from midnight until 7:30am. I did use an included AC wall charger since I figured it said 1500 mA so it should charge it fast. In the morning popped the battery into the phone and to my surprise found it to be only at 32%. That would mean that wall charger was actually providing about 415 mA instead of 1500 mA. No surprise since you can never trust these labels. It could have been a typical 500 mA charger with some efficiency loss down to 415 mA of actual current. I decided to use my other "trusted" 2A wall charger. Kept it charging in the same setup from 10am till 1:50pm, popped it into the phone and battery went from 32% to 97% in under 4 hours!!! Which is approximately 1550 mA of supply from a wall charger, with some efficiency loss from original value. So if I would have used this wall charger from 3%, most likely I would have gotten to a full 100% charge in under 7 hours, maybe even 6 1/2 hours.
Pretty much charging circuit of that cradle/charge is able to handle high current input and can charge Zerolemon at relatively fast rate of 1500 mA supply. Plus, even after slicing a layer of back support of that cradle, I was still able to plug in the phone and charge/sync it (although through that micro-usb connector it was charging at USB rate, not AC).
Bottom line, it worked! Oh, and as a disclaimer I have to mention that I'm not responsible for any damage to your battery or your fingers if you decide to duplicate it Here are the pictures:
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You could smooth the top with Bondo, JB Weld, or epoxy.

I'm going to do this. Thank you!
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I'm going to do this. Thank you!
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Just make sure you use stock 2A wall charger or any other 2A wall charger. Using the bundled one will take you forever to charge it up.

Wouldnt something like this work too?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B7G3P94/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8

Double0EK said:
Wouldnt something like this work too?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B7G3P94/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8
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No, that charger is a joke even for a standard battery, toooooo slow in charging due to only 350mA supply. Also, it plugs in to the wall while you need something that will plug in to the external wall charger with usb/micro-usb. Not every charger will work. You need something similar to what I have above.

vectron said:
No, that charger is a joke even for a standard battery, toooooo slow in charging due to only 350mA supply. Also, it plugs in to the wall while you need something that will plug in to the external wall charger with usb/micro-usb. Not every charger will work. You need something similar to what I have above.
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I agree that the supply is too weak on that charger, however the form factor should work if you have an outlet on a horizontal surface. Powerstrips are often placed in this way. You just need to find one with a good 2A output.

I did this mod and it charged my zerolemon battery and it fit. purchased that same charger from the link. so far so good. I now own 2 of these zerolemon batteries, so hopefully this modded charger will keep me free from all cords.

pablo71 said:
I did this mod and it charged my zerolemon battery and it fit. purchased that same charger from the link. so far so good. I now own 2 of these zerolemon batteries, so hopefully this modded charger will keep me free from all cords.
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Does your led turns blue when it's done charging? I think I have been tweaking my charger too much with mods and fitments, cause now I feel like charger is not making a good contact with a battery. I had it on for a long time and only got up to 78% which wasn't like before. Either way, this is the only charger cradle I found so far that can fit ZL and uses external USB wall charger. I hope ZL will come through with their own fast external charger!

Wonder if my Anker charger will work. Debating in this battery, but been happy with my Hyperion 6200 so far a d fits fine in my Anker external charger. Takes about 10 hours to charge, but don't use it everyday and always have a back up Anker 3100 on back up.
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hey vectron, since you have ZL's "ear", tell them they should expand this catagory to include home /desk chargers, car chargers, and a couple of cases. Obviously, the chargers need to be a bit higher capacity, but, they should already have this stuff on the drawing board/test phase..
I was in the automotive battery/charger business for many years, and I know how successful a program like this can/should/will be!

wase4711 said:
hey vectron, since you have ZL's "ear", tell them they should expand this catagory to include home /desk chargers, car chargers, and a couple of cases. Obviously, the chargers need to be a bit higher capacity, but, they should already have this stuff on the drawing board/test phase..
I was in the automotive battery/charger business for many years, and I know how successful a program like this can/should/will be!
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I think they are well aware of the demand for all this stuff, but it seems they are focusing mainly on batteries. Heard from someone ZL will have 3x capacity S4 battery in a few weeks. So their #1 priority is a battery, and with so many new popular phones, it keeps them pretty busy.
What we need is one of those universal wall chargers that can supply 2A. If you look on ebay, they do have universal chargers where contact location could be moved to adapt to different batteries and it also expands for different battery sizes. But they all have internal converter built in and limited to 500-600mA. Someone in HK needs to realize all new phones use 1A-2A chargers.

JesseMT4G said:
Wonder if my Anker charger will work. Debating in this battery, but been happy with my Hyperion 6200 so far a d fits fine in my Anker external charger. Takes about 10 hours to charge, but don't use it everyday and always have a back up Anker 3100 on back up.
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I was able to zoom in on Amazon into Anker charger and from close up its 600 mA, so we are talking about 16 hours of charge time for ZL. This confirms your charging time of 6200 mAh / 600 mA = 10.3 hr. I do believe Anker charger will fit ZL.

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I think they are well aware of the demand for all this stuff, but it seems they are focusing mainly on batteries. Heard from someone ZL will have 3x capacity S4 battery in a few weeks. So their #1 priority is a battery, and with so many new popular phones, it keeps them pretty busy.
What we need is one of those universal wall chargers that can supply 2A. If you look on ebay, they do have universal chargers where contact location could be moved to adapt to different batteries and it also expands for different battery sizes. But they all have internal converter built in and limited to 500-600mA. Someone in HK needs to realize all new phones use 1A-2A chargers.
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Or. perish the thought, someone in the USA!!

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I was able to zoom in on Amazon into Anker charger and from close up its 600 mA, so we are talking about 16 hours of charge time for ZL. This confirms your charging time of 6200 mAh / 600 mA = 10.3 hr. I do believe Anker charger will fit ZL.
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Wow, almost a day to charge, lol! I may have to check into something else as that actually may affect my electric bill, haha!
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Review of Anker Astro E5 15000 mAh external battery w/pics!!!

This is a review of Anker Astro E5 15000 mAh external battery: http://www.ianker.com/product/79AN15K-WA
Being familiar with footprint of their E4 battery, when Anker announced a new E5 model with higher capacity I was expecting to see bigger and heavier model with a typical 30% efficiency loss. I know I bring it up in a lot of the reviews, but labeled capacity of ANY external battery is not what your phone battery going to see. Its a total capacity of cells inside of external battery which gets converted to 5V usb interface output and then back to your cell phone battery while charging - the efficiency loss during the conversion reduces the actual capacity by approximately 30%, with some batteries close to 40% and others maybe slightly better to 25%. On top of that, a lot of no name ebay HK sellers have batteries with super exaggerated capacity where you will be lucky to get even half of what they advertise on the label. That is why I only trust a few brands, Anker being one of them.
Once I received E5 unit for review to my surprise, the footprint stayed almost unchanged and difference in weight was negligible in comparison to previous E4 gen. But you actually get 2000 mAh more in capacity to bring it up to 15000 mAh. The battery cells are changing and improving, and I'm glad to see that Anker is keeping up with a new technology. E5 external battery is not exactly feather light, but at about 11.1 oz and 5"x3"x0.9" is manageable and actually the same as Note 2 with Zerolemon battery. The exterior is solid plastic, no flex, and comes in either white or black. For this review I chose a white unit and found it to be great to cover up any fingerprints. The top has a large power button with dual functionality to also turn on built-in led light. At full charged battery capacity, the light could last up to 700 hours if you only use it for that purpose. Next to power button you have 4-led capacity/charging indicator in 25% increments. Charging input to the battery is a standard micro-usb and has 1.5A charging speed for a fast charging of this battery. Output is a dual full usb port, rated at 2A and 1A both of which can be used simultaneously to deliver 3A of combined current. Each port current output is regulated where I confirmed charging Note 2 from one gave me max 2A and from the other one only up to 1A.
This extended battery comes with usb cable and interchangeable tips for micro-usb, mini-usb, and apple 30-pin connector. Also, it comes with a convenient storage pouch for a battery, cable, and attachment. It also comes with a detailed manual and 18-month warranty card. But there is also a big surprise. I have been reading other independent test reviews of this module and it turned out to have an actual capacity close to 11,800 mAh. We are talking about 21.5% efficiency loss which is very good considering typical batteries of such capacity have it at 30% or higher. This mean you can charge your Note 2 with a standard battery almost 4 times, or easily charge Zerolemon and have some juice still left - all this at a max 2A speed. Overall, I'm very impressed with this battery and its performance!
Here are the pictures.
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Awesome! Thanks for this! What are you using to measure the charge that is going in to the Note 2? I have an external battery rated at 12,000mah, that has both 1A and 2A ports, and would like to see what it's actually putting out, as well as check some wall adaptors that I have. Thanks for the review! Anker is also one of the few brands that I trust as well!
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stanglifemike said:
Awesome! Thanks for this! What are you using to measure the charge that is going in to the Note 2? I have an external battery rated at 12,000mah, that has both 1A and 2A ports, and would like to see what it's actually putting out, as well as check some wall adaptors that I have. Thanks for the review! Anker is also one of the few brands that I trust as well!
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it says it in the last screenshot dude, really? LOL
Galaxy Charging Current

Galaxy Charging Current *Lite* (free version): https://play.google.com/store/apps/...hbnRpcy5nYWxheHljaGFyZ2luZ2N1cnJlbnQuZnJlZSJd
I actually found it to be relatively accurate by comparing charging time versus charging percentage. Ignore "Now" value. Just look for Max/Avg as your charging currents. This app comes very handy for those without root, like myself, to measure your charging current.

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Galaxy Charging Current *Lite* (free version): https://play.google.com/store/apps/...hbnRpcy5nYWxheHljaGFyZ2luZ2N1cnJlbnQuZnJlZSJd
I actually found it to be relatively accurate by comparing charging time versus charging percentage. Ignore "Now" value. Just look for Max/Avg as your charging currents. This app comes very handy for those without root, like myself, to measure your charging current.
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Thanks!! Just tested it out. Like you said, the Now value isn't what the charging rate actually is. Took me reading some reviews on the Play Store to figure that out. The Now value is what the device recommends, while the Average value is what rate you're actually charging at.
I'm not sure how accurate it is though. While using my HTC wall chargers that came with my both my black Evo LTE and white one, the values are Maximum 900, Now 1798, and Average 900. I'm getting the same numbers while using the Samsung wall charger that came with my Note 2. I assume that 900 is correct for the HTC chargers, as they're only 1Amp chargers so I'm getting .9Amp from them. The Samsung charger is 2Amp though, so it should be twice as high as the HTC chargers.
EDIT : Just tested my 12,000mah PowerBank. I got 500 out of the 1Amp port, and 1700 out of the 2Amp port! Very happy with those numbers!! Especially it considering that it appears to be charging at a higher rate than my OEM Samsung wall charger!!!
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:good:Solid review bro! Something that powerful could almost charge the ZL battery twice, haha.

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I'm not sure how accurate it is though. While using my HTC wall chargers that came with my both my black Evo LTE and white one, the values are Maximum 900, Now 1798, and Average 900. I'm getting the same numbers while using the Samsung wall charger that came with my Note 2. I assume that 900 is correct for the HTC chargers, as they're only 1Amp chargers so I'm getting .9Amp from them. The Samsung charger is 2Amp though, so it should be twice as high as the HTC chargers.
EDIT : Just tested my 12,000mah PowerBank. I got 500 out of the 1Amp port, and 1700 out of the 2Amp port! Very happy with those numbers!! Especially it considering that it appears to be charging at a higher rate than my OEM Samsung wall charger!!!
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Mike, which 12kmAh charger are you using? I know Anker stuff is universal for Apple/Android, while some other ones will drop your charging current to max 0.5A when connected to "apple" port. Another question, which usb cable are you using? Unless if its original Sammy cable that came with OEM charger or a cable like from monoprice with 24AWG/28AWG rating (thicker power wires to handle up to 3A of current), the cable itself its a bottleneck if its designed for a lower charging current. So for example, if you are using HTC charger/cable and then used their cable to connect to Samsung wall charger - you could be current limiting your phone (thinner wires, more resistance). And even if you are using OEM Samsung wall charger and cable - I noticed that in our house some outlets can't supply enough current depending on what other stuff is connected to the same shared power branch.

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Mike, which 12kmAh charger are you using? I know Anker stuff is universal for Apple/Android, while some other ones will drop your charging current to max 0.5A when connected to "apple" port. Another question, which usb cable are you using? Unless if its original Sammy cable that came with OEM charger or a cable like from monoprice with 24AWG/28AWG rating (thicker power wires to handle up to 3A of current), the cable itself its a bottleneck if its designed for a lower charging current. So for example, if you are using HTC charger/cable and then used their cable to connect to Samsung wall charger - you could be current limiting your phone (thinner wires, more resistance). And even if you are using OEM Samsung wall charger and cable - I noticed that in our house some outlets can't supply enough current depending on what other stuff is connected to the same shared power branch.
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I think PowerBank is the brand, and Long March is the model. There is a long thread in the Evo LTE Accessories subforum (my other phone), and that's how I heard about it. I normally wouldn't buy an off brand accessory, but with many XDA members giving great feedback, and some have had it close to a year, I decided to try it out. Very happy that I did!! I looks a lot like your Anker actually. It has 2 USB ports for charging other devices, a 1 Amp and a 2 Amp, and also has a little LED flashlight as well. It works great and this app you mentioned showed me that the 2 Amp port is charging at 1.7 Amp(while using my HTC micro USB cable, so it may charge at an even higher rate using the Samsung cable), so I'm happy with that.
For the Samsung wall charger, I'm using the Samsung wall charger and Samsung micro USB cable. I do have it plugged in to a power strip though, so I'll have to try it plugged directly in to a wall outlet with nothing else plugged in. Thanks for the info!
EDIT : Update - after trying the Samsung charger in a wall outlet instead of the power strip, I'm still getting 900(.9 Amp). Maybe my charger is just not putting out the Amperage it should anymore, and I should just buy another Samsung wall charger if I want to get the correct Amperage. I rarely use my wall charger though, as I just use my external battery charger to charge my extra Samsung battery. When I do plug in the phone, it's usually in to my PowerBank while I'm sitting outside playing on my phone and drinking/smoking (never smoke in my house!).
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stanglifemike said:
I think PowerBank is the brand, and Long March is the model. There is a long thread in the Evo LTE Accessories subforum (my other phone), and that's how I heard about it. I normally wouldn't buy an off brand accessory, but with many XDA members giving great feedback, and some have had it close to a year, I decided to try it out. Very happy that I did!! I looks a lot like your Anker actually. It has 2 USB ports for charging other devices, a 1 Amp and a 2 Amp, and also has a little LED flashlight as well. It works great and this app you mentioned showed me that the 2 Amp port is charging at 1.7 Amp(while using my HTC micro USB cable, so it may charge at an even higher rate using the Samsung cable), so I'm happy with that.
For the Samsung wall charger, I'm using the Samsung wall charger and Samsung micro USB cable. I do have it plugged in to a power strip though, so I'll have to try it plugged directly in to a wall outlet with nothing else plugged in. Thanks for the info!
EDIT : Update - after trying the Samsung charger in a wall outlet instead of the power strip, I'm still getting 900(.9 Amp). Maybe my charger is just not putting out the Amperage it should anymore, and I should just buy another Samsung wall charger if I want to get the correct Amperage. I rarely use my wall charger though, as I just use my external battery charger to charge my extra Samsung battery. When I do plug in the phone, it's usually in to my PowerBank while I'm sitting outside playing on my phone and drinking/smoking (never smoke in my house!).
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What you refer to is Yoobao brand power bank model "Long March". Unfortunately, there is only one official reseller of Yoobao brand in US and its KeviKev (I reviewed Yoobao Thunder 13000 mAh from them before - http://kevikev.com/Samsung-Galaxy-NOTE-II-2-N7100-Cases-and-Accessories_c47.htm). Long March is 11,200 mAh model. Did you get it from Amazon or eBay? It's a Chinese knock off of Yoobao, but it doesn't matter since it works for you. They all use the same battery cells anyway, and original Yoobao stuff might be a bit more robust and have more durable plastic shell. But listen, if the one you have works - its all good and don't worry about it!!!
Strange about Samsung wall charger. Sounds like something is gone south. Btw, don't even bother buying anything labeled as "original OEM Samsung wall charger" from Amazon or eBay - it's all fake knock offs as well. For the fun I just look on Amazon reviews, and everybody complaining about Samsung OEM wall charger not even being able to supply 1A. That's a problem with Amazon, anybody can create a merchant account and list their product under original manufacturer listing. And the rest is history because you will never be able to find original Samsung part since everything else will be a fake copy But I assume you are using your original wall charger and cable which came from Samsung when you bought N2?

flynnchen said:
Yoobao brand is quite good. I had one before. Is anker battery stable now ? I just found out this post on xda
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1361749
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That explosion has nothing to do with Anker batteries. That was highly/almost 100% due to the black cheap/low amp charger. I had a random cheap black USB charger similar to that for charging low amp Emerson bluetooth headphones, which was 400 mAH output, and we charged my brother's IPAD 2 with it, and it started to smoke. Same issue happened when charging his S3 with that cheap charger. I think it was their mistake for providing such a terrible charger, which is why it seemed the white one was probably better. The lesson is: don't charge anything that has a higher capacity/requirement with something far below it's capacity - otherwise, you're just asking for a dangerous situation to occur. That's just my two cents and observation from what I have seen, read, and personally experienced

how to charge
Excellent and informative review! 2 questions (I am a novice...). How do I charge the charger...can I use either my iphone 5 plug (output 5V/1A) or ipad2 plug? And, when charging my devices, is it the 1A socket for iphone 5, and 2A socket for ipad 2? Thank you!
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Excellent and informative review! 2 questions (I am a novice...). How do I charge the charger...can I use either my iphone 5 plug (output 5V/1A) or ipad2 plug? And, when charging my devices, is it the 1A socket for iphone 5, and 2A socket for ipad 2? Thank you!

maestrojohn said:
Excellent and informative review! 2 questions (I am a novice...). How do I charge the charger...can I use either my iphone 5 plug (output 5V/1A) or ipad2 plug? And, when charging my devices, is it the 1A socket for iphone 5, and 2A socket for ipad 2? Thank you!
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To charge the charger you can use any wall charger with micro-usb output. Since this is Android forum and Note 2 section, I assume you have one of those. Otherwise as you aware the charging cable for iPhone 5 is not micro-usb. But to charge your device, you can do that with any phone or tablet since charging/data cables have usb on one side (that will go into a charger) and whatever connector you are using on your device on the other side of the cable. In theory you can use either outputs.

Hello! Great review, I purchased it for 50 bucks on amazon 5 minutes ago because of the review. I am a noob, sorry in advance, I made this account to ask these two questions: 1: I just wanna use it for my iPhone 5, do i plug it in on the 1A or 2A? If both is ok, which one is better for the battery in the phone? 2: I will need an adapter, which one is better? Micro Usb to Lightning or 30pin to Lightning? I dont like the size of the 30 pin to lighting, so is it ok to purchase a micro usb to lighting instead? Does this affect anything like charging time?
Thanks for answering, have a nice day

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Hello! Great review, I purchased it for 50 bucks on amazon 5 minutes ago because of the review. I am a noob, sorry in advance, I made this account to ask these two questions: 1: I just wanna use it for my iPhone 5, do i plug it in on the 1A or 2A? If both is ok, which one is better for the battery in the phone? 2: I will need an adapter, which one is better? Micro Usb to Lightning or 30pin to Lightning? I dont like the size of the 30 pin to lighting, so is it ok to purchase a micro usb to lighting instead? Does this affect anything like charging time?
Thanks for answering, have a nice day
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You can use either 1A or 2A outputs. Your phone has a fixed charging speed and will not draw more current that it's limited to. So for example if iPhone can charger at a speed of 1A per hour and you connect it to an output that can supply 2A per hour - it will only draw at 1A per hour speed. BUT, if you have Note 2 which takes advantage of 2A per hour charging and you plug it into 1A port, it will be charging at half the speed.
Regarding cable, try to minimize number of connecting adapters. For example, you get a cable with 30pin connector and you can add 30pin to Lighting adapter to it, but with every connection you add resistance which going to affect total amount of current and can slow down the charging, etc. You want to have point-to-point cable. So I would recommend using USB to Lighting connector cable. Not micro-usb, but usb because charing ports on this external power supply are full size usb. Only the port to charge this battery is micro-usb because of a common connection with other charging cables.

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I wonder if you could try something for me.
Could you find out if the Anker will supply a phone/device while it is itself being charged? Also, whether it will keep supplying the phone/device without interruption when its own charging supply is connected and disconnected?
I want to use it like a mini-UPS for my phone while charging it from my bicycle dynamo, but for this, it needs to cope with a charging supply which stops and starts, while continuing to supply any connected devices.

I think I tried it before, and it didn't work. These external battery devices are not intended to work in pass-through mode. I think there are some other ones (I'm 100% sure if that was NewTrent), but the vendor will not guarantee the device under warranty because of an additional overheating and cut of the efficiency. This will really complicate the controller of such ext battery where it has to keep balance between charging and discharging of the same battery at the same time. I'm pretty sure Anker stuff will not allow that because they have smart current monitoring functionality built-in in order not to overcharge or over-drain the device.
But it would be an interesting experiment where you connect ext battery to the outlet and to the phone. I wonder if it starts charging battery first until it's full, and then switch to charging the phone

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I think I tried it before, and it didn't work. These external battery devices are not intended to work in pass-through mode. I think there are some other ones (I'm 100% sure if that was NewTrent), but the vendor will not guarantee the device under warranty because of an additional overheating and cut of the efficiency. This will really complicate the controller of such ext battery where it has to keep balance between charging and discharging of the same battery at the same time. I'm pretty sure Anker stuff will not allow that because they have smart current monitoring functionality built-in in order not to overcharge or over-drain the device.
But it would be an interesting experiment where you connect ext battery to the outlet and to the phone. I wonder if it starts charging battery first until it's full, and then switch to charging the phone
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I did just that yesterday, and it worked fine. Now, the anker would not actually increase its charge due to simpe physics: it charges with 1.5A from the wall, and my nexus 10 used 1.2A of those, and adding some inefficiencies on that it would likely mean that it would just hold a charge level in the anker battery, not increase it. But as soon as the tablet ramps its current draw down the anker would suck up any left over juice. This becomes even worse of course if you charge a phone at the same time.
One little note: The battery in this is not the most awesome (also the capacity measurement is a simple voltage-based instead of counting coulumbs). While charging with ~1A from the 1A port, when I added my nexus 10 to the 2A port the charge indicator actually went from 50% to 25%. When removing the tablet the LEDs indicated 50% charge again. This is due to voltage sag which is itself due to internal resistance of the batteries. Meaning: The faster you charge the more heat will be wasted in the batteries. So to really prolong the battery life you should actually charge slowly, at least as far as the Anker is concerned.

Thanks for the review, I will probably be getting one now.

[Review] Choetech QC 3.0 10400 mAh battery pack

Disclaimer: I was sent these items at a heavy discount in exchange for my fair & honest review
Choetech 10400 QC 3.0 Enabled Battery Pack:
Overview
Choetech took their old QC 2.0 battery and made some improvements to it while also adding QC 3.0.
Ports/Charging:
There are a variety of ports offered on this battery which serve different functions. First the battery can be charged on of two ways: you can either use a microUSB cable (like the one included in the box), or a lightning cable if you happen to also have an Apple device. Both cables will allow the battery to be charged at 5V/2.4A; however, I found the battery charges via QC 2.0. I tested it via my multimeter which show the battery drawing ~9V/1.8A which is closer to 16.2 W of power. I’m not sure why the battery doesn’t list this as an input because it certainly takes all of the power.
On the output side you are given the option of using 2 USB-A standard ports. One of these ports will charge at 5V/1A which is also known as QC 1.0, while the second one charges via QC 3.0. The voltage range is variable as is the current. The ranges for the QC 3.0 port are: 5V/3A (15W), 9V/2A (18W), 12V 1.5A (15W). All of these outputs are consistent with the QC 3.0 standard which allows the voltage to step in smaller increments thus reducing the overall heat and increasing charging efficiency.
Design/Build Quality:
This battery has a very nice, solid aluminum housing that really makes it feel nice. The top/bottom edges are chamfered, while the sides are black anodized aluminum. This is the perfect pairing for the HTC 10 given its nice chamfered edge, and similar aluminum construction. I have another Choetech battery pack that is equally well made and feels like a tank. I don’t foresee this battery buckling under normal use, or even some drops given how well made it feels.
To use the battery, you first need to hit the power button that in turn lights up a series of 4 bright LED’s. These LED’s will indicate the current charge left on the battery while also looking great. When you are charging the battery pack the LED indicating its current level of charge will blink as an indication of how much power is currently store in the battery.
What’s in the Box:/B]
-Choetech 10400mAh power bank
-microUSB cable
-Documentation
Charging Multimeter test:
Charging Ports:
Here is breakdown of the voltages/rates the battery can be charged at:
Output: 5V/1A (5W)
QC 3.0 Port: 5V/3A (15W), 9V/2A (18W), 12V/1.25A (15W) [/SIZE]
Battery I/O Rating Pictures
Given the battery’s two output ports, you will be able to charge two devices simultaneously, although I would only use it to charge one at a time personally.
Overall This is a great small QC 3.0 enabled battery pack that will keep everything working on the go. I own battery packs from EasyACC, Choetech, Aukey, and Anker, but this one is still one of my favorites for what it offers. I plan on using this battery to charge my HTC 10 while at school, and on the go in general.

Nice review, I've done a similar thing on amazon, also found the charger to be great. I did a quick charging test and it was averaging around 1500mA, whereas the htc one main plugs charger was 1600mA, so to charge that close to a main plugs socket is great. Specially for a portable charger where you want it charging fast!

Phil750123 said:
Nice review, I've done a similar thing on amazon, also found the charger to be great. I did a quick charging test and it was averaging around 1500mA, whereas the htc one main plugs charger was 1600mA, so to charge that close to a main plugs socket is great. Specially for a portable charger where you want it charging fast!
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This battery will output the rated (18W) if the phone can handle that much current. I posted a picture in my review using a multimeter to measure the power (16.8W at the moment I took the picture). I don't know what the phones peak input current is, but I know it's higher than than S7 Edges 15.03W input, and Neuxs 6P's 15W. I've seen similar ranges of 15-17W using the stock HTC charger which means this battery is outputting the proper current for the phone to charge as fast as it possible can via the QC 3.0 port.

How many full charges can it deliver to the phone?

Lurien said:
How many full charges can it deliver to the phone?
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Just over 2 from my experience, but that's 0 to 100 so not bad.
It is damn fast though for a portable charger. For example I've gone from 33% to 100% in a little over an hour

Phil750123 said:
Just over 2 from my experience, but that's 0 to 100 so not bad.
It is damn fast though for a portable charger. For example I've gone from 33% to 100% in a little over an hour
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Not bad at all.. that's like having 2 spare batteries and change... I'm considering getting this. Thanks for the feedback.

Lurien said:
How many full charges can it deliver to the phone?
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Phil750123 said:
Just over 2 from my experience, but that's 0 to 100 so not bad.
It is damn fast though for a portable charger. For example I've gone from 33% to 100% in a little over an hour
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Lurien said:
Not bad at all.. that's like having 2 spare batteries and change... I'm considering getting this. Thanks for the feedback.
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If you account for the efficiency external batteries have (not very high due to heat losses) the 2 full charges is about right in my experience.

Pilz said:
If you account for the efficiency external batteries have (not very high due to heat losses) the 2 full charges is about right in my experience.
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Yup when looking at mah of portable batteries I always take off about 30%. Assuming it's good quality that about what you get. I. E in this case 10400mah you get about 7000mah actually usable. Obviously that goes down with time too.

Phil750123 said:
Yup when looking at mah of portable batteries I always take off about 30%. Assuming it's good quality that about what you get. I. E in this case 10400mah you get about 7000mah actually usable. Obviously that goes down with time too.
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Plus when quick charging you could lose some of the ~7000 you might expect, regardless of that I still find it to work as well as my other 1000mAh battery packs.

Things I miss in your review:
How much does it cost, and how are competitive products placed?
How long does it take to charge the Battery with a QC2.0 Charger?
How much is really inside?
You'd have to use a constant 1.5A load and check How long it lasts... ?
Except from that. Nice review Thanks.

Choetech has stated they're using Samsung Li-Ion cells so they're likely these. I'll crack open mine when I receive it, haven't ordered it yet.
http://gamma.spb.ru/media/pdf/liion-lipolymer-lifepo4-akkumulyatory/ICR18650-26H.pdf
http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/Samsung ICR18650-26H 2600mAh (Pink) UK.html
-26H is the successor to -26F
http://data.oomipood.ee/kasutusjuhend//ICR18650-26FM.pdf
http://dampfakkus.de/akkutest.php?id=120
http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/Samsung ICR18650-26F 2600mAh (Pink) UK.html
I personally have these -26H's inside my 4x18650 5V2A power bank case.
They're great cells for indoor use and low current draw (per cell) use.
They'll happily dump over 90% of the specified Whours even at a full 5A discharge. (which is 2600*3.63/1000=9.44Wh)
At a more sane discharge current of 1A/2A they'll be able to provide ~ 99/96% of the specified Whours.
So how much is really inside? Spec sheet says 10200mAh's assuming 0.2C discharge and 2.75V cut-off.
In practice? ~10200-10600mAh's depending on the discharge current. (this is of course fresh cells, capacity will drop over time)
This of course does not take into account the power loss which occurs when you boost the voltage up.
Assuming a nice, above average 90% efficiency inside the power bank you'd be looking at ~9200mAh's.
Then taking into account the voltage stepdown happening inside the phone, let's assume 90% efficiency again and we'd be looking at ~8150mAh's.
Aaand then taking into account the cable loss (- connector losses), let's assume you have an average 26AWG 1 meter cable and you transfer 18W of power at 9V2A, loss is 6%.
We're down to ~7550mAh's.
Saying it can charge a 3000mAh battery twice plays nice with that calculation.
One thing to note though and like I said, great for indoor use but if you look at the spec sheet, you can see the capacity vs temperature table.
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tl;dr if you wish to extract every little ounce of power you can from these cells (or this power bank)
if you go hiking in really cold weather, make sure it stays close to room temp (25C), so not in the outermost compartment of your backpack but neither touching your body which could then warm it up higher than room temp - no es bueno.
if it's a really warm, sunny summer day and you go have a beer outside sitting in the porch, don't leave the power bank in direct sunlight, place it in shade instead
This is pretty much business as usual and has to do with the design of the cell and cathode material used.
Cells [like the -26H] intended for laptops, power banks etc. are going to have different discharge characteristics compared to cells [like INR18650-25R] intended for electric vehicles, power tools and so on.
So it's good that the power bank has an aluminium chassis. It's going to be able to dump some of that heat generated by the boost circuitry in to the air and so on and so forth.
The cells themselves won't really heat up that much. You know, there's 4 of them in there and they are in parallel = current load is being split pretty much equally.
At 3V under load which is pretty close to fully discharged (cut-off = ~2.75V), if the power bank circuitry is prodiving 18 watts of power and drawing 21.6 watts (18+20%) from the 1S4P battery pack because of inefficiencies, it would still be just 7.2A of current total and 1.8A per cell.
Well within the capabilities of these Samsung cells and so low power wise per cell they're not heating up much.

I recently added this one to my arsenal and now prefer it over others I have. I can charge it off anyone's charger i'm with on longer trips so cable management is nill. Love the fact you can tell it's in qc mode versus normal charge mode.

Just recently got this power bank for my hTc 10 - as from my experience 10Ah looks impressive on the computer screen - but in real life we actually need 20Ah backup battery .. ?
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And it states that output is 12V x 1.5A what actually implies 18W... ?
Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..

dottat said:
I recently added this one to my arsenal and now prefer it over others I have. I can charge it off anyone's charger i'm with on longer trips so cable management is nill.
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Well, not exactly nil, right? You can charge from micro-usb or from lightning, which is a great addition, but you can't actually charge from the cable you're most likely to be carrying with your HTC 10, which is a USB C cable, right? I looked at the description on Amazon, and thought that was an interesting omission.

Andyw2100 said:
Well, not exactly nil, right? You can charge from micro-usb or from lightning, which is a great addition, but you can't actually charge from the cable you're most likely to be carrying with your HTC 10, which is a USB C cable, right? I looked at the description on Amazon, and thought that was an interesting omission.
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It can be charged via a microusb cable that is included. Since they are as common as can be I don't see how that would be an issue. I have piles of them laying around, spare one in my car etc.. I know it's not ideal to have more than one type of cable, but I use them to charge my S7 Edge, Bose QC 20's , LG Tone Platinum's etc.. that's why I personally have them just about everywhere. I also have a time of Type-C, C-C/A-C cables because of my Nexus 6P. Ideally I would like 4 type c poets for in/out but no one makes anything close yet.

Pilz said:
It can be charged via a microusb cable that is included. Since they are as common as can be I don't see how that would be an issue. I have piles of them laying around, spare one in my car etc.. I know it's not ideal to have more than one type of cable, but I use them to charge my S7 Edge, Bose QC 20's , LG Tone Platinum's etc.. that's why I personally have them just about everywhere. I also have a time of Type-C, C-C/A-C cables because of my Nexus 6P. Ideally I would like 4 type c poets for in/out but no one makes anything close yet.
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I never suggested it would be hard to find a cable to charge the battery pack.
But dottat wrote that cable management issues were nil, so I was merely pointing out that for those of us with HTC 10s that really isn't quite the case, since if we want to travel with a single cable, the single cable we are going to travel with -- a USB C cable -- can't charge the battery. This means bringing two cables, at a minimum.
This was not a huge complaint or indictment of the product. I was just making a point. The product would be even better if it could charge via a USB C cable.

Andyw2100 said:
I never suggested it would be hard to find a cable to charge the battery pack.
But dotat wrote that cable management issues were nil, so I was merely pointing out that for those of us with HTC 10s that really isn't quite the case, since if we want to travel with a single cable, the single cable we are going to travel with -- a USB C cable -- can't charge the battery. This means bringing two cables, at a minimum.
This was not a huge complaint or indictment of the product. I was just making a point. The product would be even better if it could charge via a USB C cable.
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I completely agree, unfortunately there are only a handful of battery packs that support QC 3.0 and even fewer that offer Type-C (if any yet) on top of that. The interesting part is their QC 2.0 version has a Type-C port to charge the battery along side the microusb. I'm not sure why they changed that (maybe to appeal to a larger crowd), but it's odd nonetheless. I can post a picture of it later today since its 0103 right now so the lighting wouldn't be ideal to see it.

Andyw2100 said:
...dottat wrote that cable management issues were nil, so I was merely pointing out that for those of us with HTC 10s that really isn't quite the case, since if we want to travel with a single cable, the single cable we are going to travel with -- a USB C cable -- can't charge the battery. This means bringing two cables, at a minimum.
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But within a large company someone is definitely with iPhone - what somehow suggests carrying one more cable.. ?
I opted to carry my original hTc 10 Type C cable and a small interface which converts Type C into the lightning connector.. ?
Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..

jauhien said:
But within a large company someone is definitely with iPhone - what somehow suggests carrying one more cable.. ?
I opted to carry my original hTc 10 Type C cable and a small interface which converts Type C into the lightning connector.. ?
Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..
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They make one that charges via Type-C as I mentioned earlier; however, it uses QC 2.0 as opposed to QC 3.0

Has anyone compared this Choetech 10400 QC3 (currently unavailable on Amazon) with the Anker 20000 QC3? Pros? Cons?