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So Galaxy Note 2 has now got 5 models to be released shortly, here is the breakdown
International : GT-N7100
Verizon : SCH-I605
TMob : SGH-T889
Sprint : SPH-L900
AT&T : SGH-I317
Thanks to Evan
AT&T : 850 cellular/1900 PCS GSM/UMTS & 700MHz (Band class 17) LTE
Verizon : 850 cellular/1900 PCS CDMA/EVDO & 700MHz (Band class 13) LTE
Sprint : 800 SMR/1900 PCS CDMA/EVDO & 1900MHz LTE
T-Mob : 1900 PCS GSM/UMTS & 1700/2100 (AWS) UMTS
Seems like they will all have Quad Core Exynos with a seperate LTE chip
My question is does that mean we will be having five different model forums, or is it possible to have only the current one for all the models, since they are pretty much the same Exynos + LTE.
I hope not......i hope they each have their own
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nishbul said:
So Galaxy Note 2 has now got 5 models to be released shortly, here is the breakdown
International : GT-N7100
Verizon : SCH-I605
TMob : SGH-T889
Sprint : SPH-L900
AT&T : SGH-I317
Seems like they will all have Quad Core Exynos with a seperate LTE chip
My question is does that mean we will be having five different model forums, or is it possible to have only the current one for all the models, since they are pretty much the same Exynos + LTE.
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Interesting question.. I think that as far as you dont flash a different radio(assuming that the main difference its the band) you would be good to go.. an example of this happens on the Gtab 7+ variants.. mine its 6800n(different band for south america) and i can flash any rom from the other variants 6800/6800h no problem.. just keep my radio..
There is two international versions:
N7100: 3G only
N7105: LTE
And yes they will most likely get the same forum with seperate development sub-forums.
One thing I wonder about, here in Sweden the LTE frequencies is 800/900/2600 MHz.
It means that when we get LTE it will be different from the international version and developer support will be non-existent or can we flash international roms if the only difference is LTE frequencies?
nishbul said:
International : GT-N7100
Verizon : SCH-I605
TMob : SGH-T889
Sprint : SPH-L900
AT&T : SGH-I317
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I still can´t understand the fact, taht every provider in the US needs its own model...whats the thing about it? Everywhere in the world = same model over hundreds of provider...
brooon said:
I still can´t understand the fact, taht every provider in the US needs its own model...whats the thing about it? Everywhere in the world = same model over hundreds of provider...
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Each carrier wants to have complete control on what is in the phone and what they want to cripple. I'm heavily considering the International version this time but will wait for all the details to come first.
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DeRock13 said:
Each carrier wants to have complete control on what is in the phone and what they want to cripple. I'm heavily considering the International version this time but will wait for all the details to come first.
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Well that...and the whole different frequencies that they each opperate on
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00mred00 said:
Well that...and the whole different frequencies that they each opperate on
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Hm,...sorry for noobing, but: My international S3 is a quadband model and works in the US as well...which frequencies do you refer to?
My question is will be have different development for
N7100-64GB and 32GB and 16GB....... Will they have different forums or same
raghavafitt said:
My question is will be have different development for
N7100-64GB and 32GB and 16GB....... Will they have different forums or same
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Sd card size does not matters..
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Sd card size does not matters..
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I think he was being sarcastic
Also, UK has just released LTE on 1800mhz band, any idea if Note 2 will support it?
(it would be really really stupid from Samsung, if they didnt, but it's still a possibility)
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Hm,...sorry for noobing, but: My international S3 is a quadband model and works in the US as well...which frequencies do you refer to?
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carriers use different frequencies and network technologies (CDMA or GSM)
I hope they do have a separate one, as they did with the Galaxy S3...it was really confusing at times.
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Hm,...sorry for noobing, but: My international S3 is a quadband model and works in the US as well...which frequencies do you refer to?
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AT&T has 850 cellular/1900 PCS GSM/UMTS & 700MHz (Band class 17) LTE
Verizon has 850 cellular/1900 PCS CDMA/EVDO & 700MHz (Band class 13) LTE
Sprint has 800 SMR/1900 PCS CDMA/EVDO & 1900MHz LTE
t-mobile has 1900 PCS GSM/UMTS & 1700/2100 (AWS) UMTS
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AT&T has 850 cellular/1900 PCS GSM/UMTS & 700MHz (Band class 17) LTE
Verizon has 850 cellular/1900 PCS CDMA/EVDO & 700MHz (Band class 13) LTE
Sprint has 800 SMR/1900 PCS CDMA/EVDO & 1900MHz LTE
t-mobile has 1900 PCS GSM/UMTS & 1700/2100 (AWS) UMTS
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Soooo, its (worldwide) just Verizon & Sprint (or let´s say it´s JUST sprint) that causes this fragmentation?
i have never bought an international version either but if it comes out sooner i will since i would like to travel a lot...
will the international version for any reason not be as good as the eventual verizon version for me in regards to anything....4g speed, roming, etc...
thx!
No need for me.to get the international versions anymore I guess,since the processors are the same.
brooon said:
Soooo, its (worldwide) just Verizon & Sprint (or let´s say it´s JUST sprint) that causes this fragmentation?
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No, there is also fragmentation between AT&T and T-mobile versions. They use different frequencies for 3G (HSPA+) so an AT&T phone will not work on T-mobile and vice versa. You'd need a pentaband phone (e.g. Galaxy Nexus) to cover AT&T, T-mobile, and international gsm networks.
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No, there is also fragmentation between AT&T and T-mobile versions. They use different frequencies for 3G (HSPA+) so an AT&T phone will not work on T-mobile and vice versa. You'd need a pentaband phone (e.g. Galaxy Nexus) to cover AT&T, T-mobile, and international gsm networks.
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What? Thats not true, didnt the note 1 get hack to use on tmo?
And i know for a fact amaze works on att as well.
Either way i cannot wait to get this phone!!!
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I just received my galaxy note ii today but it seems that it is not connecting to T-Mobile 3G network.
Does the Note II work on 3G networks in the US?
kojaraty said:
I just received my galaxy note ii today but it seems that it is not connecting to T-Mobile 3G network.
Does the Note II work on 3G networks in the US?
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No =(
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
You need AWS bands of 1700 / 2100 which it lacks.
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No =(
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
You need AWS bands of 1700 / 2100 which it lacks.
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ok does AT&T or Verizon 3g network work on the Note II?
Just AT&T.
Verizon uses CDMA for it's 2G and 3G Networks. The Note 2 won't work on Verizon PERIOD.
Baldilocks said:
Just AT&T.
Verizon uses CDMA for it's 2G and 3G Networks. The Note 2 won't work on Verizon PERIOD.
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i just went to AT&T and asked regarding this, they said if it is prepaid it might be 50% working and 50% not working, but if it is postpaid it will work. I want prepaid plan.
Is that true?
kojaraty said:
ok does AT&T or Verizon 3g network work on the Note II?
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I am using Straight Talk which uses ATT network. Works very fast with about 5-7mbps download speeds.
spridell said:
I am using Straight Talk which uses ATT network. Works very fast with about 5-7mbps download speeds.
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What plan you currently have with Straight Talk?
kojaraty said:
What plan you currently have with Straight Talk?
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$45 unlimited everything
[Q] Using T-Mobile Galaxy Note 2 on AT&T's LTE (Will It Work if I do the Following?)
Can't you flash an AT&T firmware on a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 2 handset to get the necessary AT&T LTE Frequencies since the LTE radios on both AT&T's and T-Mobile's Note 2's are the exact same? Or is unlocking the Note 2 via T-Mobile more than enough to take advantage of AT&T's LTE Network?
Tread carefully, I'm currently trying to get my phone out of a rather nasty bootloop/corrupt IMEI situation after trying just that earlier today.
But I did get it to work, even pulled 35 Mbps on a speedtest.
Things went to hell after trying to revert back to the T889V modem. (In case I needed the AWS HSPA, for proof of concept and also warranty purposes).
so our phone's LTE modem is compatible with AT&T LTE bands? sweet.
^^^ Did an LTE status show up when you ran the Speedtest; this was with an AT&T Sim, right? ?
^^^ Did an LTE status show up when you ran the Speedtest; this was with an AT&T Sim, right? ?
Darkshado said:
Tread carefully, I'm currently trying to get my phone out of a rather nasty bootloop/corrupt IMEI situation after trying just that earlier today.
But I did get it to work, even pulled 35 Mbps on a speedtest.
Things went to hell after trying to revert back to the T889V modem. (In case I needed the AWS HSPA, for proof of concept and also warranty purposes).
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Virgin Mobile Canada LTE SIM (previously confirmed working in an Galaxy S III), and yes the LTE icon showed up immediately, Speedtest says LTE too, and the speeds are way beyond what I had with HSPA in the same location.
Doesn't AT&T's LTE run on different frequencies; so will T-Mobile's Note 2 match with AT&T LTE Frequencies after flashing to AT&T's Firmware?
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Virgin Mobile Canada LTE SIM (previously confirmed working in an Galaxy S III), and yes the LTE icon showed up immediately, Speedtest says LTE too, and the speeds are way beyond what I had with HSPA in the same location.
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Doesn't AT&T's LTE run on different frequencies; so will T-Mobile's Note 2 match with AT&T LTE Frequencies after flashing to AT&T's Firmware?
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Tmobile's T889 supports LTE on AWS and 700 (band 17).
AT&T's i317 supports LTE on AWS, 700 (band 17) and also on 850 and 1900 (band 2).
So yes, our phone has the ability to work on SOME of AT&T's LTE network, but not all of it; it will just depend on which frequencies they're using in your area. I believe AWS and 700 are new for AT&T, so they're probably fewer and more between at the moment, whereas their current network is mostly 1900 and 850. Not sure what kind of upgrade they have to do to switch their old HSPA 1900 towers to LTE support.
Silly question, so is a tmobile note 2 capable of handling AT&T's LTE network on the 850 and 1900 bands; is this something controlled by software, or a hardware limitation, I thought the Qualcomm radios on the AT&T variant and tmobile variant were the same.
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Tmobile's T889 supports LTE on AWS and 700 (band 17).
AT&T's i317 supports LTE on AWS, 700 (band 17) and also on 850 and 1900 (band 2).
So yes, our phone has the ability to work on SOME of AT&T's LTE network, but not all of it; it will just depend on which frequencies they're using in your area. I believe AWS and 700 are new for AT&T, so they're probably fewer and more between at the moment, whereas their current network is mostly 1900 and 850. Not sure what kind of upgrade they have to do to switch their old HSPA 1900 towers to LTE support.
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Hi,
I searched whole Galaxy Note 2 Forums for my question but did not get direct answer. My question is
Can I use AT&T Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-i317) in India and get 3g data as is without making any modification to Bands?
or
Should I enable AWS (TMobile 3g/4g) bands in this phone to use 3G in India.
If anybody is using this phone in India, let me know how / which carrier in India are you using.
thershope said:
Hi,
I searched whole Galaxy Note 2 Forums for my question but did not get direct answer. My question is
Can I use AT&T Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-i317) in India and get 3g data as is without making any modification to Bands?
or
Should I enable AWS (TMobile 3g/4g) bands in this phone to use 3G in India.
If anybody is using this phone in India, let me know how / which carrier in India are you using.
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Depends what bands your carrier uses. The phone (without the AWS hack) supports 850/900/1900/2100 MHz for 3G.
Product F(RED) said:
Depends what bands your carrier uses. The phone (without the AWS hack) supports 850/900/1900/2100 MHz for 3G.
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I thought it supports only triband for 3g (900MHz being unavailable). Can you please confirm that SGH-i317 supports 900MHz for 3G.
thershope said:
I thought it supports only triband for 3g (900MHz being unavailable). Can you please confirm that SGH-i317 supports 900MHz for 3G.
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I can't confirm that it actually works, other than this screenshot from my i317 (I did the AWS hack, which is why 1700 MHz comes up). GSM carriers in the US use 850/1900 (AT&T) and 1700/1900/2100 (T-Mobile) for 3G. So I can't see if 900 MHz works:
http://db.tt/WTFsWwwa
However, I don't think the phone will show bands that it doesn't support, so it should work. I have a hard time believing the phone is only Tri-Band, when my Galaxy S3 i9300 is quad-band (850/900/1900/2100 MHz) UMTS.
I know that the Verizon version works with 900 MHz because on Samsung's websites, it's quad-band UMTS. Yes, the Verizon version can also do GSM. It comes unlocked as well. You just have to use root and an APN application to add your carrier's APN, or just install a custom ROM that enables the APN menu.
I actually had the exact opposite question. I am planning on buying the Galaxy Note II (N7100) in India and I wanted to know if the 3G facility would work for any GSM provider in the United States?? I wanted to know if all the N7100 models (including the ones in India) are Quad band 3G. If so I guess the AT&T 3G should work as quad band would be compatible with the 850/1900 frequencies used by AT&T. Any help in this regard would be appreciated. I hope to be in the US from September for studies and thus wanted to be sure Id be able to use this phone for 3G there.
garam_masala said:
I actually had the exact opposite question. I am planning on buying the Galaxy Note II (N7100) in India and I wanted to know if the 3G facility would work for any GSM provider in the United States?? I wanted to know if all the N7100 models (including the ones in India) are Quad band 3G. If so I guess the AT&T 3G should work as quad band would be compatible with the 850/1900 frequencies used by AT&T. Any help in this regard would be appreciated. I hope to be in the US from September for studies and thus wanted to be sure Id be able to use this phone for 3G there.
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It works on AT&T 3G. Correct.
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Im using the att note 2 i317 in india on airtel network. Currently on cleanrom MA4 . Speed is decent. I get anywhere between 4 to 8 mbps during good signal
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Thanks for confirming. I was worried that I will miss out on 3g because of this 900MHz.
moinsheriff said:
Im using the att note 2 i317 in india on airtel network. Currently on cleanrom MA4 . Speed is decent. I get anywhere between 4 to 8 mbps during good signal
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thershope said:
Hi,
I searched whole Galaxy Note 2 Forums for my question but did not get direct answer. My question is
Can I use AT&T Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-i317) in India and get 3g data as is without making any modification to Bands?
or
Should I enable AWS (TMobile 3g/4g) bands in this phone to use 3G in India.
If anybody is using this phone in India, let me know how / which carrier in India are you using.
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I travel India frequently and have US (AT&T) and India (Vodaphone) SIM, I just swap the sim and everything works great. I am on cleanrom 4.8. No issues and great Internet speed in Mumbai. Even I was able to do RDC without any issues.
Thanks.
nughtynick said:
I travel India frequently and have US (AT&T) and India (Vodaphone) SIM, I just swap the sim and everything works great. I am on cleanrom 4.8. No issues and great Internet speed in Mumbai. Even I was able to do RDC without any issues.
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ATT Note 2 in India
Guys i am using ATT Note 2 in India and i am not able to pick up 3G frequencies here.. My phone is unlocked from ATT but i still only get to use 2G,. I would appreciate if anyone can help me here. How do i get to 3G here.? i am using a vodafone sim.
Hey Guys,
Not sure where to ask at this point, but I know that there is a Verizon forum for the S4, but this is more T-Mobile inclined question.
My mom was given an S4 at her job from Verizon but I convinced her to give it to me since I wanted it and I gave her my Tmobile Note 2.
I put my sim card into the Verizon S4 and configured the APN setting so now im getting faster data speeds with the Verizon S4 than I was with my Tmobile Note 2. So everything works but the phone is in Global mode, which I dont really care at this point.
My question is though, how can I get the Verizon S4 to connect to the Tmobile signal cel-fi booster that I have. I have no service at my job so therefore I obtained one of the boosters offered by Tmobile, works great with my Note 2, but the S4 does not recognize the cel-fi booster.
Please advise...
I guessing the cell fi thing is for tmobile phone only. I'm sure tmobile don't want just anyone to use their products.
It's probably a firmware deal and not the SIM that recognized the cell fi.
☞ Sent from here☜???
Yes, I definitely understand that, but I am using a TMobile sim card, logged into Tmobile towers, using Tmobile 4G LTE network, but the hardware/firmware is Verizon, so that is why I am asking if it is doable to get this working? Perhaps if flashing a rom or something?
elite-fusion said:
Yes, I definitely understand that, but I am using a TMobile sim card, logged into Tmobile towers, using Tmobile 4G LTE network, but the hardware/firmware is Verizon, so that is why I am asking if it is doable to get this working? Perhaps if flashing a rom or something?
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Could it be a hardware issue? Tmobile special band which does noy jave in the verizon phone?
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I don tknow, thats why im asking you guys lol
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I don tknow, thats why im asking you guys lol
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Your best bet is to call T Mobile tech support and ask them. You've got a really obsscure question that probably has to deal with the frequencies the 2 devices communicate on that no one here has probably ever dealt with. T Mobile is going to be the quickest way to get this answer.
The T-Mobile cel-fi operates at the 1700MHz aws frequencies. According to this thread they are not enabled by default on the Verizon galaxy s4. So that's why it's not picking up the signal from the cel-fi.
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Cel-Fi RS1 vs RS2
elesbb said:
The T-Mobile cel-fi operates at the 1700MHz aws frequencies. According to this thread they are not enabled by default on the Verizon galaxy s4. So that's why it's not picking up the signal from the cel-fi.
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Guys,
I work for Cel-Fi - it looks like you are correct.
The RS2 Cel-Fi (the latest one) will boost 2 bands: 1.9GHz (aka PCS, Band 2) + AWS
BUT the older RS1 (we dont sell it anymore) will only boost AWS and not Band 2...
Check here for details on the Bands 2 and 4, and here for definitions of the bands...
It looks like the S4 gets 1900 band 2 (specs S4 for T-Mobile UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);Quad Band GSM;LTE)
Let us know which Cel-Fi you have...
Regards,
Laurent
laurent.gil said:
Guys,
I work for Cel-Fi - it looks like you are correct.
The RS2 Cel-Fi (the latest one) will boost 2 bands: 1.9GHz (aka PCS, Band 2) + AWS
BUT the older RS1 (we dont sell it anymore) will only boost AWS and not Band 2...
Check here for details on the Bands 2 and 4, and here for definitions of the bands...
It looks like the S4 gets 1900 band 2 (specs S4 for T-Mobile UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);Quad Band GSM;LTE)
Let us know which Cel-Fi you have...
Regards,
Laurent
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I have the RS1 (older one) got it for 90 bucks on ebay
Works great!
And since you work for Cel-Fi, does the RS2 model boost the LTE signal for T-Mobile or not? From what i am reading, it does not.
Sorry for my ignorance but how is the Verizon Galaxy S4 able to connect to T Mobile let alone LTE? Is Verizon S4 a pentaband phone? I think my knowledge is outdated but I was under the impression that Verizon uses CDMA
utsc said:
Sorry for my ignorance but how is the Verizon Galaxy S4 able to connect to T Mobile let alone LTE? Is Verizon S4 a pentaband phone? I think my knowledge is outdated but I was under the impression that Verizon uses CDMA
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They do, it switches to global mode (GSM) when you insert a non-verizon sim.. Most CDMA smartphones have this capability nowadays, which they did not before.. Verizon is the only carrier I know that does not lock the gsm radio on their phones, I think Sprint's phones are sim locked
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I'll sell the new cell-fi
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