[Q] LTE in the near future. Bad? - T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII

Will the switch to LTE in 2013 (I'm assuming to facilitate the MetroPCS merge) impact us Galaxy SIII users negatively? Does our device support an LTE functionality?
Also, if there is to be a switch in networks, would I be able to "switch off" LTE --to the lesser 3G-- to preserve date usage?

It won't impact us negatively. Heck it could even help us as it would lessen traffic on the hspa + bands as more people switch to LTE. And no our devices cannot use LTE.
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elesbb said:
It won't impact us negatively. Heck it could even help us as it would lessen traffic on the hspa + bands as more people switch to LTE. And no our devices cannot use LTE.
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I guess in a sense of it clearing the roads,it would be okay. It's too bad we wouldn't be able to handle LTE. Are you sure it isn't able to be activated via an update?
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Kelevro said:
I guess in a sense of it clearing the roads,it would be okay. It's too bad we wouldn't be able to handle LTE. Are you sure it isn't able to be activated via an update?
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From what I've read about in all the hardware specs our device doesn't have the hardware for i.
I wouldn't mind being wrong! LTE would be sweet!
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elesbb said:
From what I've read about in all the hardware specs our device doesn't have the hardware for i.
I wouldn't mind being wrong! LTE would be sweet!
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I'm probably going to have to agree with you, unfortunately. However, T-Mobile recently sent a pamphlet to me with a provided "FAQ" section, claiming that all of their devices will be able to support the LTE. I just didn't believe it, hence the thread's conception. It wouldn't surprise me if I had missed the fine-print-three-font saying "*this excludes the Galaxy SIII". It's still a glimmer of hope, though.
I'll continue researching the matter.

All of their future devices maybe. As of now, the only phone T-Mo has that is LTE capable is the Note 2.
As stated, T-Mo will still support HSPA+ as well as they do now. Gives T-Mo the edge over AT&T from how I see it.
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Don_Perrignon said:
All of their future devices maybe. As of now, the only phone T-Mo has that is LTE capable is the Note 2.
As stated, T-Mo will still support HSPA+ as well as they do now. Gives T-Mo the edge over AT&T from how I see it.
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It will give a boost for them. But I just did a speed test next to a Verizon LTE device and I blew it away. Best it by123 kilobytes
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Our devices may be able to support lte depending on the frequency T-Mobile uses for it.
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Here's a pic to kind of show what the network will look like after refarming and LTE deployment is complete. Our S3s or any other phone that can use the 1900 band shouldn't take any performance hit. In fact, as newer devices are released with LTE support (and after deployment) it will reduce the number of hspa+ devices, leaving even more bandwidth available for hspa use.
It has been confirmed and questioned a number of times, but the T999 radio is not capable of using LTE. Besides, LTE is still far enough off that most of us probably won't see it in our areas till after we've upgraded to a newer phone.
But in the meantime if your areas been upgraded to hspa+42, you may already see speeds that rival current LTE offerings by competitors.
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strker45 said:
Our devices may be able to support lte depending on the frequency T-Mobile uses for it.
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Not an LTE chip in this phone. T999 is not capable in any way of LTE.
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GS3 Tmobile LTE capable?

So I was in a tmobile store today and was told that both the note II and Gs3 will receive a software patch to enable the lte radio. Asked the question like 10 different ways as I've read online that the gs3 will NOT be let cab able.
the internal phone workings are a little above my head...but i was told that the tmobile sg3 is the same as say the att model which does have the lte radio,
So, does that sound right that the SG3 is future proof and will be able to enable LTE?
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So I was in a tmobile store today and was told that both the note II and Gs3 will receive a software patch to enable the lte radio. Asked the question like 10 different ways as I've read online that the gs3 will NOT be let cab able.
the internal phone workings are a little above my head...but i was told that the tmobile sg3 is the same as say the att model which does have the lte radio,
So, does that sound right that the SG3 is future proof and will be able to enable LTE?
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The question I should have asked is if they are shipping different GS3's for tmobile now? But regardless they were so confident that it will (LTE) be enabled...wanted to ask the experts thx
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The question I should have asked is if they are shipping different GS3's for tmobile now? But regardless they were so confident that it will (LTE) be enabled...wanted to ask the experts thx
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when i worked at t mobile we were told that the galaxy s3 for t mobile has LTE radios, and that the device will support the LTE rollout. this was straight from corporate.
BOOM :highfive:
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when i worked at t mobile we were told that the galaxy s3 for t mobile has LTE radios, and that the device will support the LTE rollout. this was straight from corporate.
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and that was from day 1? Obviously there has been debate about this on this forum and people much smarter than I have agued that it will never get LTE...
do you remember if there is something that has to be enabled? Or if say where I live they activate the LTE tower, boom it will work?
Its been a while so I dont remember the details, but I am convinced that
1. We will NOTget LTE one our GS3.
2. It doesn't really matter. By the time the majority of us get LTE in our market, we will have moved on to an even better phone! Also, most of us will get hspa+42 soon which for now is more than sufficient for almost everyones needs.
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Its been a while so I dont remember the details, but I am convinced that
1. We will NOTget LTE one our GS3.
2. It doesn't really matter. By the time the majority of us get LTE in our market, we will have moved on to an even better phone! Also, most of us will get hspa+42 soon which for now is more than sufficient for almost everyones needs.
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I think these threads need to be shut down. There are a number of other threads exactly like this that holds the correct information. Thanks Doc
I agree with Doc, we'll probably be on better phones by the time we have decent LTE reception -- and I'm happy enough with the DC-HSPA+ modem.
IMHO, they will likely release a Galaxy S3 [4G] LTE as an interm between the S3 and the S4. WRT LTE, all I know is what I see on Wikipedia's snapdragon article. Which isn't very clear on details. Also numerous MSM8960 phones /w LTE exist but do we even know if it's on die, let along bothering to crack open an AT&T and T-Mobile GS3 for a little hardware compare?
So afye reading this I have a question.... if you guys are saying that our phones arent capable then why on my phone (running frosty jb v7) are there 2 system apps called LTESettings.apk and LTETest.apk??? Are these not for our phone and are just ther e due to it being a port? And if so can I safely remove them so they are taking away ram and battery? Thanks in advanced
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rawdaddymagraden said:
So afye reading this I have a question.... if you guys are saying that our phones arent capable then why on my phone (running frosty jb v7) are there 2 system apps called LTESettings.apk and LTETest.apk??? Are these not for our phone and are just ther e due to it being a port? And if so can I safely remove them so they are taking away ram and battery? Thanks in advanced
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They serve no purpose to our devices so yes you can remove them. Just in case, make a backup first. Like move them to memory card or something.
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elesbb said:
They serve no purpose to our devices so yes you can remove them. Just in case, make a backup first. Like move them to memory card or something.
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Thanks I did so w/o issues
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By the time lte does roll out... The galaxy s4 will be out and most of us will switch to it. And I'm pretty sure the s4 will support lte
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Crisisx1 said:
By the time lte does roll out... The galaxy s4 will be out and most of us will switch to it. And I'm pretty sure the s4 will support lte
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It is dependent upon wether we have the hardware included I believe.
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It is dependent upon wether we have the hardware included I believe.
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Samsung would only fail if they didn't include lte hardware in the new galaxy s4 especially because it's being released after tmobile starts rolling out lte which is February 2013
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Maybe I am the only one. LTE is not very efficient. I am happy with 3g+++.Tmo 3g super sized is a very good system. My company provided LTE hot spot sucks bandwidth like no other. Be careful what you ask for.

Unlocking Q

If I unlocked my Hercules and used at&t prepaid and flashed a skyrocket radio would I be able to use their data? And also would the data be just as fast?
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Yes I think so might just have to change APN settings
How do you do that?
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I'm not for sure you may not have to. I only know how to change APN on a iPhone. You should be OK with just an unlocked t989 and radio change
I believe you could use it, but it would only be 2g because at&t uses LTE for their high speed networks. The physical radio itself in our Hercules just doesn't support it.
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But a att radio should fix that
No, not the software radio. That will give you the 2G signal, but we don't have the actual physical hardware to run full speed on at&t's network. That's part of why the Hercules has a different processor, the one in the international/att sII wouldn't work with tmo's hspa network.
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You would be able to use your Hercules on AT&T but if the fast data you're referring to is 4G LTE, then no, you won't get that because the Hercules doesn't have the hardware needed to support it. You would get HSPA+ though.
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Couldn't you turn off 4g and just pull 3g and it work that way?
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Couldn't you turn off 4g and just pull 3g and it work that way?
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No. You could turn off 4G and get EDGE/2G though.
On Verizon phones you can turn off 4g to only use 3g why would it not be the same
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On Verizon phones you can turn off 4g to only use 3g why would it not be the same
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T-Mobile's 3G/4G networks run on the same bands so you can't block something on one band and only let the other thing work. I guess Verizon has different bands for 3G/4G.
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I see got cha.. I didn't know
I hope i'm not hijacking here but I have a similar question. I'm in an at&t lte market and was considering using my t989 with at&t via straightalk. Would I be better off to sell my phone and get a "true" at&t phone that does LTE?
philo_ said:
I hope i'm not hijacking here but I have a similar question. I'm in an at&t lte market and was considering using my t989 with at&t via straightalk. Would I be better off to sell my phone and get a "true" at&t phone that does LTE?
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If you use Straight Talk, then no matter what phone you use, you won't get LTE so it doesn't matter if you use a T989 or an AT&T phone.
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Thanks for the info. I'm still looking at options. Appreciate the quick reply.

News from tmobile tech

Here's some news. Talked to a tech today for awhile resolving an account issue. During our conversation I asked about deployment plans. Here is the top five things they said they're doing:
1. Rolling out LTE upgrades to current 4g towers. Which may cause temporary service loss of data.
2. Upgrading all towers along the interstate system in their current footprint to hspa and to LTE in larger cities with 4g already deployed.
3. LTE will roll out in large cities with 4g first that have completed upgrades.
4. Metropcs lte towers may be given greenlight for us to roam on until the switchover (which is contrary to previous statements)
5. Acquire more 1900mhz and AWS spectrum for more buildouts of hspa and LTE.
They're also looking at possibly doing unlimited data with tether soon. But no word on pricing or availability.
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does that mean I can use unlock AT&T phone with T-mobiles LTE contract OR any unlock LTE phone?
microamd said:
does that mean I can use unlock AT&T phone with T-mobiles LTE contract OR any unlock LTE phone?
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No clue. I'm just repeating what the tech told me.
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Im here at the one of the tmobile store in california. A regional manager is here today at the store. I ask him if our note 2 will need any update to use the new lte services when it out. He said no! He told me there actually installing lte towers right now in la and oc county! No wonder my service is been off and on today! Just did a speedtest and wow its getting faster and faster! !!
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Yeah my speeds have been spotty the past few days
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Same here in San Jose CA. I assumed its due to towers being upgraded. Download speeds have gone down but upload has gone up slightly. I was a bit concerned but I figured its due to some upgrades their doing. Hope my download speeds picks back up.
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Same in pittsburgh. Speeds have been **** the last few days.
sent via note 2 in boss mode @ quad core 1.9 ghz
No big change antioch ca here
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San Diego seems untouched...
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Dallas has been becomming spotty. Lewisville, irving, and coppell. Dunno much bout carrollton though
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does that mean I can use unlock AT&T phone with T-mobiles LTE contract OR any unlock LTE phone?
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If the phone can support Band 4 LTE (which I do not think AT&T uses for their LTE), it can support it.
These threads seem silly, because what tech and care know is far from the truth. Also to whoever thinks that you don't need a update for lte, you are most certainly wrong. We just got LTE installed on the towers on our building and it is not working on my note. But other notes in the building we have for testing have LTE up and running just fine. Unfortunately these notes were sent already put together, so whether it was a update or a sim card is hard to tell because I haven't got hands on time alone with them yet. Another possible solution is a provision, through one of tmobiles systems for troubleshooting I have seen lte settings for a phone line specifically but wouldn't have the information to properly set it up.
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My speed are even faster today!!!
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dannydv said:
My speed are even faster today!!!
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NICE! Where are you located?
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aznmode said:
NICE! Where are you located?
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Southern California. I also live in las vegas!
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Have experienced crap downloads but in South Phoenix where I live im 5 miles away from the nearest TMO advertised tower (and coming from cricket, its still fast in my mind) but this past few weeks I have experienced better speeds but more intiguing is my connectivity has gone haywire at times resulting in excessive batter consumption (periodically)... hoping this is LTE configs at work but its all a waiting game at this point
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Los Angeles has been loss of data and very slow data at times mostly all the time spoke with tmobile rep she said she dont see no problem
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Hope something happens soon. I'm kinda hating the slow speed I'm getting lately.
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I know dude where are u at ? City?
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Mine is slow too at times. Used to get 27mbps now average between 15 to 19 never over 20. I'm in sd
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Question about data and phone calls

I'm new to sprint and I forgot about the fact that the network doesn't really support talk and web like att. If I am on the browser will I still get a phone call??
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I'm new to sprint and I forgot about the fact that the network doesn't really support talk and web like att. If I am on the browser will I still get a phone call??
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boonemeat said:
I'm new to sprint and I forgot about the fact that the network doesn't really support talk and web like att. If I am on the browser will I still get a phone call??
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If your on 4g lte you can talk and web browse.
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To better answer/consolidate the above replies:
When you are on 3G data (watching a youtube video, on the web browser, etc) you will still get phone calls, however the data connection will stop to allow the phone call to take place. You will also be able to receive text messages however the data will stop for a brief second (the phone actually goes to 1x for a brief second)
When you are on 4G LTE, you can make phone calls with no problem. The data connection will remain active and you can talk at the same time.
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If your on 4g lte you can talk and web browse.
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To better answer/consolidate the above replies:
When you are on 3G data (watching a youtube video, on the web browser, etc) you will still get phone calls, however the data connection will stop to allow the phone call to take place. You will also be able to receive text messages however the data will stop for a brief second (the phone actually goes to 1x for a brief second)
When you are on 4G LTE, you can make phone calls with no problem. The data connection will remain active and you can talk at the same time.
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And if you're on wifi, you can make and receive calls while surfing. It is only the 3g cdma radio that mucks things up.
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I'm new to sprint and I forgot about the fact that the network doesn't really support talk and web like att. If I am on the browser will I still get a phone call??
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Yes you still get calls. Unless you enable DDTM from settings. Which sends calls straight to vm if you're on active data.
There are cdma phones that do talk and surf but unfortunately our Notes is not one of them even though it came out after all the others ones that can! Damn Samsung Retards.. :banghead:
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RayTrue04 said:
Yes you still get calls. Unless you enable DDTM from settings. Which sends calls straight to vm if you're on active data.
There are cdma phones that do talk and surf but unfortunately our Notes is not one of them even though it came out after all the others ones that can! Damn Samsung Retards.. :banghead:
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This is not entirely Samsung's fault. This is a 3g CDMA radio tech problem requiring SVDO being needed....and Samsung making a multi-carrier handset that has identical hardware.
And yes you can talk and surf so long as you either have LTE and 3g available or have wifi and 3g available.
Skripka said:
This is not entirely Samsung's fault. This is a 3g CDMA radio tech problem requiring SVDO being needed....and Samsung making a multi-carrier handset that has identical hardware.
And yes you can talk and surf so long as you either have LTE and 3g available or have wifi and 3g available.
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You do know the Galaxy S3 can do talk and surf at the same time on 3G right? (Which is a Samsung). So can the Evo LTE, Viper 4G LTE, and a few others.. I would like to know why the Note 2 was excluded!
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You do know the Galaxy S3 can do talk and surf at the same time on 3G right? (Which is a Samsung). So can the Evo LTE, Viper 4G LTE, and a few others.. I would like to know why the Note 2 was excluded!
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I explained exactly why in my post. Read it again. It is all right there.
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Evdo is part of the qualcomm soc that is in the us variants of the s3 as well as what's used in htc's us version of the one x and Evo4glte. Our note 2 uses an exonos soc and that doesn't have evdo. Period.
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Skripka said:
This is not entirely Samsung's fault. This is a 3g CDMA radio tech problem requiring SVDO being needed....and Samsung making a multi-carrier handset that has identical hardware.
And yes you can talk and surf so long as you either have LTE and 3g available or have wifi and 3g available.
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I explained exactly why in my post. Read it again. It is all right there.
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I've read a few times and I'm a bit confused. You say it's a 3G CDMA radio tech problem requiring SVDO and Samsung making a multi-carrier handset that had identical hardware. Ok.. Wasn't the GS3 a multi-carrier handset with identical hardware? It handles it fine on Sprint's 3G.
The other thing that has me confused was when you said:
And yes you can talk and surf so long as you either have LTE and 3g available or have wifi and 3g available. Were you referring to the GS3 or the Note? Because the Note can't handle calls and web surfing on 3G.
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Evdo is part of the qualcomm soc that is in the us variants of the s3 as well as what's used in htc's us version of the one x and Evo4glte. Our note 2 uses an exonos soc and that doesn't have evdo. Period.
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RayTrue04 said:
I've read a few times and I'm a bit confused. You say it's a 3G CDMA radio tech problem requiring SVDO and Samsung making a multi-carrier handset that had identical hardware. Ok.. Wasn't the GS3 a multi-carrier handset with identical hardware? It handles it fine on Sprint's 3G.
The other thing that has me confused was when you said:
And yes you can talk and surf so long as you either have LTE and 3g available or have wifi and 3g available. Were you referring to the GS3 or the Note? Because the Note can't handle calls and web surfing on 3G.
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See what Mr savoy said. Note2 uses the same hardware across all models... S3 and others used different soc platforms on USA and international handsets.
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Savoy2001 said:
Evdo is part of the qualcomm soc that is in the us variants of the s3 as well as what's used in htc's us version of the one x and Evo4glte. Our note 2 uses an exonos soc and that doesn't have evdo. Period.
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And this is the exact answer I needed to hear. That explains it thoroughly. Which brings me to my next question. Why didn't they go with the qualcomm instead of going backwards? It's like technology advances for CDMA 3G and then Samsung decides to take a step backwards.
Edit: Nevermind I got my answer. Sprint/Samsung sacrificed SVDO for WCDMA support instead. At least that's what I'm getting from researching.
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Thank you all so much for answers! Unfortunately I forgot to check the thread for the answer until after I had the service activated and found out lol.
RayTrue04 said:
You do know the Galaxy S3 can do talk and surf at the same time on 3G right? (Which is a Samsung). So can the Evo LTE, Viper 4G LTE, and a few others.. I would like to know why the Note 2 was excluded!
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It has to do with the processor
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It has to do with the processor
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Yes I picked that up when researching and people saying is the processor, but sgr4u and a few others speculated it really was put aside for WCDMA support for faster 3G due to the placing if antennas. Which to me makes perfect sense because if Samsung can get LTE to work on their chips what's SVDO to them?
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I wish Sprint allowed for 3G and voicecalls at the same time but but oh well thats what 4G LTE is for
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I wish Sprint allowed for 3G and voicecalls at the same time but but oh well thats what 4G LTE is for
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Sprint does allow it there are like 3 different devices that do it S3 and Evo lte are two the note 2 just cant thats all unless its on lte
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Sprint does allow it there are like 3 different devices that do it S3 and Evo lte are two the note 2 just cant thats all unless its on lte
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I was only talking about the Note 2, u basically said what I said haha no worries though
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Sprint spark

I took the sprint training today for sprint spark and in the training it states that tri-band phones will have issues connecting to most current LTE networks and will receive an update sometime early 2014 to resolve the issue..
Just thought I would pass this on if some people with the Sprint G2 have noticed this issue over other LTE devices.
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It's not really "most" and this sums everything up - http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-due-to-circuit-switched-fallback-technology/
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Jocelyn said:
It's not really "most" and this sums everything up - http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-due-to-circuit-switched-fallback-technology/
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Good read. Very informative. But what about the device upgrades I was told about. In the training it says the G2 will have an update early 2014 to fix this issue and allow the g2 to connect normally to all available lte networks. From what I was reading it sounds like that would not work that its up to sprint to update the old LTE towers to support csfb which is needed for triband phones.
I'm either not understanding this fully or getting conflicting reads.
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This is really random, but I know someone who sells the towers to many carriers (including Sprint), and they told me Sprint would be switching to/releasing TDD-LTE (currently US carriers use FDD-LTE). This isn't something that the average person could tell the difference between, but it could mean a better network for Sprint in general in the future. I don't have a time frame or any more info than what I've mentioned; just that it's coming.
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Good read. Very informative. But what about the device upgrades I was told about. In the training it says the G2 will have an update early 2014 to fix this issue and allow the g2 to connect normally to all available lte networks. From what I was reading it sounds like that would not work that its up to sprint to update the old LTE towers to support csfb which is needed for triband phones.
I'm either not understanding this fully or getting conflicting reads.
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I'm by no means an expert, but I'm fairly sure that the 2014 update you're referring to will enable all three bands (25, 26 , & 41) on everyone's handset and has little to nothing to do with CSFB. That said, you can already activate all three bands via ##DATA# provided you have your MSL,and getting your MSL is very easy with this device.
Edit - Some people in Spark areas have already managed to connect to bands 26 & 41 with their G2 using the above method.
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The other 2 bands aren't enabled stock? Also I've heard people having issues after enabling those bands.
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I have no idea what the bands mean...wimaxlol
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I have all band's enabled and have no trouble and I'm getting great speeds
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