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Restoring data after "soft" brick?

I attempted to flash the 15Toggles/CRT mod (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774717) and now my phone stays on the "Samsung Galaxy SIII" boot screen. I tried flashing the "restore" zip also included in that thread and it doesn't do anything. Now I've flashed various mods and what not without any problems before so lately I've gotten into a regretful habit of not backing up. I've learned my lesson from hereon out so please no lecturing, I'm just looking for some help.
Even though my phone is now "soft" bricked, I still went into CWM and did a complete backup ((I assume at this point CWM is the only way to back anything up). Now my question is once I have wiped everything and flashed the stock recovery, will I be able to restore my previous data separately from whatever system files caused the "soft" brick in the first place? Or am I pretty much SOL? Also, does app data include photos, voice recordings, wallpaper, etc. Or only settings for certain apps you've downloaded before?

Please dont use the term "brick" so lightly.
You have a soft brick.
If you made no backup in titanium or a nandroid,start from scratch
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00mred00 said:
Please dont use the term "brick" so lightly.
You have a soft brick.
If you made no backup in titanium or a nandroid,start from scratch
If you made a backup now its most likely useless,as the system is corrupt. In theory you just backed up that corrupt system
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00mred00 said:
Please dont use the term "brick" so lightly.
You have a soft brick.
If you made no backup in titanium or a nandroid,start from scratch
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Hopefully my edits are sufficient enough for your liking. However, it being a soft or hard brick is irrelevant to actual advice I was asking about. If you read it correctly, I made it clear that I made a backup in CWM (nandroid) after the soft brick and I was asking about restoring certain data.

aquariex24 said:
Hopefully my edits are sufficient enough for your liking. However, it being a soft or hard brick is irrelevant to actual advice I was asking about. If you read it correctly, I made it clear that I made a backup in CWM (nandroid) after the soft brick and I was asking about restoring certain data.
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Thought i made it clear that the backup you made is useless in that case. It looks like the app quoted me within my post.
Best of luck to ya tho. I dont stck around to help folks with your type of mentality
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You MAY be able to salvage.. I would try going into clockwork and wipe data cache dalvik.. flash the same ROM zip you were on before.. then advanced restore data from your cw backup you made.. see if it boots up..
My understanding is that it depends on what went wrong on your flash.. if it was the system or data partition that got corrupted.
If that doesn't work you'll have to wipe all three again.. flash the ROM zip and start over setting your stuff up. Go into the market on your now cleanly flashed phone and go into my apps. Then start downloading your stuff.
Presuming you are rooted, I would recommend grabbing titanium backup and running the batch 'backup all user apps' on a regular basis.. that way if this happens again you won't loose your app data.
And of course.. make a nandroid next time prior to flashing.. if you are on the lazier side.. use ROM manager as you can tell it to do a backup then flash and reboot with 'one-click'
Good luck
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DrKaotica said:
You MAY be able to salvage.. I would try going into clockwork and wipe data cache dalvik.. flash the same ROM zip you were on before.. then advanced restore data from your cw backup you made.. see if it boots up..
My understanding is that it depends on what went wrong on your flash.. if it was the system or data partition that got corrupted.
If that doesn't work you'll have to wipe all three again.. flash the ROM zip and start over setting your stuff up. Go into the market on your now cleanly flashed phone and go into my apps. Then start downloading your stuff.
Presuming you are rooted, I would recommend grabbing titanium backup and running the batch 'backup all user apps' on a regular basis.. that way if this happens again you won't loose your app data.
And of course.. make a nandroid next time prior to flashing.. if you are on the lazier side.. use ROM manager as you can tell it to do a backup then flash and reboot with 'one-click'
Good luck
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Thank you very much for the thorough and helpful reply. I actually am rooted using the stock ROM. The zip I flashed was for the original out-of-box ROM, something like "L710VPALEN." And from there I flashed the updates for the phone to bring it to the current LG8 firmware version. Would your method just require me to flash the "L710VPALEN" zip again, update it to LG8, and then attempt the advanced restore using CWM? Thanks again.

Yeah that's what I would try first.. flash the same zips you used to bring yourself to stock lg8..
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aquariex24 said:
I attempted to flash the 15Toggles/CRT mod (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774717) and now my phone stays on the "Samsung Galaxy SIII" boot screen. I tried flashing the "restore" zip also included in that thread and it doesn't do anything. Now I've flashed various mods and what not without any problems before so lately I've gotten into a regretful habit of not backing up. I've learned my lesson from hereon out so please no lecturing, I'm just looking for some help.
Even though my phone is now "soft" bricked, I still went into CWM and did a complete backup ((I assume at this point CWM is the only way to back anything up). Now my question is once I have wiped everything and flashed the stock recovery, will I be able to restore my previous data separately from whatever system files caused the "soft" brick in the first place? Or am I pretty much SOL? Also, does app data include photos, voice recordings, wallpaper, etc. Or only settings for certain apps you've downloaded before?
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From wat i am gathering, u nandroided after the soft brick... u can try an advanced restore and pick just the data partiton. Are u restoring data to the exact same rom u backed it up from? If u r then the restored data should play nice with the system... however its not gauranteed... As far as wat data includes... it should basically put ur app back to the way it was when u last had it open on ur phone. this is how titanium does it nd i presume nadroid is the same but someone correct me otherwise. Worst case it doesn't work u have to just re-install all ur apps from scratch. Personally i use titanium to do my backups. Set it to auto back up apps nd data nd ur good. Hopefully this helps.

DrKaotica said:
Yeah that's what I would try first.. flash the same zips you used to bring yourself to stock lg8..
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I did exactly what you said and it worked perfectly! Everything is back to how it was before I bricked the phone. Thanks a lot man! Now off to go set up some automatic backups!
Visionikz03 said:
From wat i am gathering, u nandroided after the soft brick... u can try an advanced restore and pick just the data partiton. Are u restoring data to the exact same rom u backed it up from? If u r then the restored data should play nice with the system... however its not gauranteed... As far as wat data includes... it should basically put ur app back to the way it was when u last had it open on ur phone. this is how titanium does it nd i presume nadroid is the same but someone correct me otherwise. Worst case it doesn't work u have to just re-install all ur apps from scratch. Personally i use titanium to do my backups. Set it to auto back up apps nd data nd ur good. Hopefully this helps.
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I did what DrKaotica suggested, re-flashed the stock ROM then updated it to LG8, re-rooted, and then used advanced restore in CWM and chose "data restore." I'm going to TB to do what you said and set it for auto back ups. Thanks for helping out kind sir.

Nice I'm glad that worked.
Make a titanium backup widget for the action 'backup all user apps'.. and touch it from time to time:thumbup:
I don't know that you can schedule automatic app back ups with tb unless you get the pro version so this widget is an easy way to do it frequently with minimal effort
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[Q] Apps not working after restore?

Why is it when ever I restore a rom only some apps restore with it? No google play or any apps I downloaded will restore.

Blargins_Magoosh said:
Why is it when ever I restore a rom only some apps restore with it? No google play or any apps I downloaded will restore.
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How are you backing them up?What recovery are you using?Etc.,Etc.Need more info so we can help you.

Diablo67 said:
How are you backing them up?What recovery are you using?Etc.,Etc.Need more info so we can help you.
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Using Amon-RA 2.3, nandroid backup, Evo 4G, Sorry pretty new to this.

Restore a backup ? Did you do a full wipe before you restored it. That might help. I forgot to once and a bunch of my apps were missing but I did a full wipe and then restored and it was fine
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Blargins_Magoosh said:
Using Amon-RA 2.3, nandroid backup, Evo 4G, Sorry pretty new to this.
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Its generally accepted that the smelkus mod recovery is the way to go for our evo. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661543
Ive never had a problem doing full restores with that. Some games need the data to be restored seperate via titianum backup I've found though.
Edit: Another thing may be that you made a nandroid before you installed gapps and such.

Thanx, working better with smelkus
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Blargins_Magoosh said:
Thanx, working better with smelkus
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honestly bro for apps use go backup and restore its easier and more compatible for apps! yes APPS only lol. as long as you dont format the sd card youll be fine!

Backup Question

Hey,
How can I backup my phone settings, the apps(and their data) I have? and restore those apps and settings including their placement on the home screens.
The reason is I am using CM10 and I want to switch to AOKP to test it, and I don't want to download all my apps again and define the phone again.
there is a backup and restore option with CWM will this help me?
thank you.

karelson said:
there is a backup and restore option with CWM will this help me?
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Yes, a Nandroid backup (what you see in CWM) does exactly what you need.
It creates an image of the entire system (OS, system and user apps + data).
In case you're having issues with your new ROM, or simply don't like it, just restore your backup from within CWM.

so I can do a backup in CWM, then flush AOPK rom (instead of my CM10 ROM), then restore from backup on CWM.
And I will have all my apps and settings on the AOPK rom?

wait, I misread your question I think...
You are running CM10 now, you only want to install AOKP and restore all of your apps, right?
If so, then no ... a Nandroid will be of no use to you.
Use the Titanium Backup backup app from the market instead.
That'll backup all of you apps + data on your internal SD.
Once you have AOKP installed, first app you download from the market is Titanium Backup and then restore the apps and data from the backup you made while still in CM10.
By the way, do yourself a favor and buy the pro version. It can batch restore apps & data instead of having to do it one at a time
As for your phone settings (google account, wifi networks and stuff) that cannot be backed up as far as I can tell.

karelson said:
Hey,
How can I backup my phone settings, the apps(and their data) I have? and restore those apps and settings including their placement on the home screens.
The reason is I am using CM10 and I want to switch to AOKP to test it, and I don't want to download all my apps again and define the phone again.
there is a backup and restore option with CWM will this help me?
thank you.
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Restore only data from your CWM backup.
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markandmyia said:
Restore only data from your CWM backup.
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What I mean to say is.....install aokp ...then restore...advanced restore....only data....from your cm10.
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Nandroid Backup

Hi everyone,
I'm having issues with Nandroid backup and restore.
After flashing ARHD 17.1 from 17.0 without wiping, everytime I make a backup it says that there was an error backing up /system and when I you try to restore it, it says MD5 mismatch.
The latest backup that I was able to use was using the backup before I flashed 17.1.
Is there any way I could fix this without wiping? I'm on a vacation right now and don't have a computer handy.
Hope you can help me out! Thanks and advance happy new year!
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Its always advisable to wipe data and cache b4 flashing the old backup or a new rom...its always good and prevents many issues...!!
U need a computer to solve the md5 sum mismatch error....after that if your backup is genuine (without problems) then it ll surely work..just some commands to execute...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975140
Scroll through the first post and you will find the proper commands..!!
Cheers..!!

Thanks! Will try that when I return home from vacation.
I just read from the ARHD forum that you can flash without wiping if coming from another version.
How about my apps and their data? I not really sure if everything's backed up. How can I make sure?
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jabr0ni said:
Thanks! Will try that when I return home from vacation.
I just read from the ARHD forum that you can flash without wiping if coming from another version.
How about my apps and their data? I not really sure if everything's backed up. How can I make sure?
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You can backup the apps and their data by using titanium backup from the playstore..! i guess thats your best bet as you dont have computer handy...!! make backup by titanium backup and then upload the backup to some good cloud sharing sites and when your problem gets solved you can restore that backup..!!
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jabr0ni said:
After flashing ARHD 17.1 from 17.0 without wiping, everytime I make a backup it says that there was an error backing up /system and when I you try to restore it, it says MD5 mismatch.
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Hmm, if you rename the backup with spaces, you'll get an md5 mismatch during restore, but no idea why you get one during backup.

BenPope said:
Hmm, if you rename the backup with spaces, you'll get an md5 mismatch during restore, but no idea why you get one during backup.
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That's what have heppened to me, MD5 mismatch, but after removing spaces from the name of the backup I was able to restore it.

Where does Nandroid save the backups? I might have to check.
Also, how do I use titanium backup? I don't know what option to select.
Hope you can help me out.
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jabr0ni said:
Where does Nandroid save the backups? I might have to check.
Also, how do I use titanium backup? I don't know what option to select.
Hope you can help me out.
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The backup location is: sd card/clockworkmod/backup
As for titanius, I don't use it before, sorry

jabr0ni said:
Also, how do I use titanium backup? I don't know what option to select.
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Just go to backup/restore (middle tab)
Then tap on the icon in upper right-hand corner, then you can select e.g. backup all user apps + system data.
Restore in the same manner. :good:

Thanks! So that's how you back things up! I was just running the 2 items under schedule and I'm not sure if that's it.
Thanks again and happy new year!
Cheers!
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[Q] Flashing different ROMS SGH-T989

When flashing between ROM's and restoring data i'm having trouble. I just wanted to know if the data from a previous ROM is compatible with the new ROM. I'm doing a full wipe ever time and using TWRP. I tried flashing from slimbean to PACMAN but I always get stuck on the boot in PACMAN when I try to restore data from slim.
Should i be doing a full wipe and restoring apps via Titanium instead?
Thanks

yea restore your apps with tb. from my understanding its never good to restore data

smartguy044 said:
yea restore your apps with tb. from my understanding its never good to restore data
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I've never had a problem restoring data when upgrading the ROM (ie slimbean from 7 to 7.5 most recently). I read somewhere that this was a common practice and have been doing it for a while now with no problems. My issue only surfaced when switching between ROMS.

yea same rom is fine different roms is not

Cbtriplec said:
I've never had a problem restoring data when upgrading the ROM (ie slimbean from 7 to 7.5 most recently). I read somewhere that this was a common practice and have been doing it for a while now with no problems. My issue only surfaced when switching between ROMS.
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U cannot restore system data to different Roms, u can restore apps, apps only with no data, diff Roms have diff signatures, if u try to restore data from one to the other ur going to end up with a soft brick, updating a ROM and restoring is OK because it has the same base files, those same base files are not compatible with a diff ROM, now if its the same base rom like cm or PAC of something like that its doable, still not wise but doable, but seems like u made up t mind already so if anything happens u have been warned lol
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soupysoup said:
U cannot restore system data to different Roms, u can restore apps, apps only with no data, diff Roms have diff signatures, if u try to restore data from one to the other ur going to end up with a soft brick, updating a ROM and restoring is OK because it has the same base files, those same base files are not compatible with a diff ROM, now if its the same base rom like cm or PAC of something like that its doable, still not wise but doable, but seems like u made up t mind already so if anything happens u have been warned lol
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Ahh... got it. Thanks for the explanation (and warning).

Cbtriplec said:
Ahh... got it. Thanks for the explanation (and warning).
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I restore app data all the time....no matter what rom I switch too. Never had an issue. I do NOT restore system app data....just stuff like launcher, bank app, anything I had to set up a lot of settings...like smart keyboard, handcent. I'd say I have about 15 to 20 apps I restore data too.....and have never had a problem. Doesn't matter what rom I flashed.
Just saying!
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Oh....I use titanium backup. And yes...I restore app data for my select apps between 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 roms and vice versa too. Again....never an issue.
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You restore using TB ? Or are you able to do this via Twrp?
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Cbtriplec said:
You restore using TB ? Or are you able to do this via Twrp?
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I use tb. After I'm all flashed, debloated the way I like it and a few other things done, I do 2 batch restores. One for apps with data....and one for the other apps with apps only selected...no data. Never ever had an issue. Maybe the odd app doesn't work right, but nothing I have on my phone lately. Everything works fine. The only thing I need to usually fix are ringtones/notification sounds of anything I restored with data...cause it doesn't restore the previous sounds for some reason. (Alarm clock, handcent, Voxer....for examples)
I think the NEVER restore app data started when our jb roms were new and all ports....was a precaution devs suggested to eliminate that as a reason for problems. Now days I think its fine to restore app data. Again....not system app data tho!
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kj2112 said:
I restore app data all the time....no matter what rom I switch too. Never had an issue. I do NOT restore system app data....just stuff like launcher, bank app, anything I had to set up a lot of settings...like smart keyboard, handcent. I'd say I have about 15 to 20 apps I restore data too.....and have never had a problem. Doesn't matter what rom I flashed.
Just saying!
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Oh....I use titanium backup. And yes...I restore app data for my select apps between 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 roms and vice versa too. Again....never an issue.
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Yes u are right, I misworded myself, as long as its not a system app is what I should've said, user app data will not have any adverse effects since the data is only related to the app and not the ROM itself, sorry for the misunderstanding
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