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Hi all, I was going to get this phone earlier (around the end of 2011) but never got it. I finally decided to get one and its on its way now, hopefully I'll have it by tomorrow.
Last I heard if you were to root it, the scary LoS issue that I read so much about would start occurring. Now with more updates out by Sprint since then has this issue been solved? Can I root and flash roms without worrying about my data/signal being at risk?
Any clarifications on this would be appreciated, thanks.
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Hi all, I was going to get this phone earlier (around the end of 2011) but never got it. I finally decided to get one and its on its way now, hopefully I'll have it by tomorrow.
Last I heard if you were to root it, the scary LoS issue that I read so much about would start occurring. Now with more updates out by Sprint since then has this issue been solved? Can I root and flash roms without worrying about my data/signal being at risk?
Any clarifications on this would be appreciated, thanks.
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LoS has been gone for awhile
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The LoS issue has been a non-issue since modem EK02, from what I hear.
Personally, I've never encountered it, except on the subway.
Root away! Frankly, this is a hard-to-brick phone, as long as you take a bit of time to research whats involved. And don't flash ROMs intended for the "international version". (aka I9100.)
The link to the thread in my sig is considered the "easiest way", but the old hacks'll tell ya to learn to use ODIN.
Don't know how familiar you are with Samsung devices, but I would seriously spend some time reading about ROM versions, kernal versions, modem versions before attempting ANYTHING. seriously. And look up QBKing77 on youtube, his vids will set you on the right path for rooting and flashing this phone.
Thank you guys. Yes I have lots of experience with Samsung. I'm using the Nexus right now and I've had the captivate for a good part of last year. Thanks for the response and advice. I will root probably within the hour I get the phone now.
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I've been using the s2 for more than 7 months now and recently got a Galaxy Nexus. I don't know if this is a downgrade but there are definitely a lot of areas where the s2 just trashes the galaxy nexus.
1. S2 Camera is definitely better than the galaxy nexus, although the shutter speed of the GN is faaast.
2. S2 has better codec support for movies plus it renders movies faster. I'm using MX player on the GN and it takes 3-5 seconds when jumping between scenes. Even fast forwarding is slow.
3. Super amoled + is much much brighter than regular super amoled. It took a few days for my eyes to adjust to the screen's "dimness" and yellowish color. I'm sure you'll experience this if it's your first time viewing super amoled coming from the s2.
4. Battery on the GN is a little worse than the s2, I'm usually at 30 percent before the end of the day with barely 1.5 hr screen time.
The development of the GN on the other hand is amazing. The software of the s2 has gotten pretty stale thanks to samsung and their ICS implementation just blows. A lot of guys were still on GB even when ICS came out. The GN is still a mixed bag for me, maybe by the time the next iteration of android comes out it'll pay off.
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I've been using the s2 for more than 7 months now and recently got a Galaxy Nexus. I don't know if this is a downgrade but there are definitely a lot of areas where the s2 just trashes the galaxy nexus.
1. S2 Camera is definitely better than the galaxy nexus, although the shutter speed of the GN is faaast.
2. S2 has better codec support for movies plus it renders movies faster. I'm using MX player on the GN and it takes 3-5 seconds when jumping between scenes. Even fast forwarding is slow.
3. Super amoled + is much much brighter than regular super amoled. It took a few days for my eyes to adjust to the screen's "dimness" and yellowish color. I'm sure you'll experience this if it's your first time viewing super amoled coming from the s2.
4. Battery on the GN is a little worse than the s2, I'm usually at 30 percent before the end of the day with barely 1.5 hr screen time.
The development of the GN on the other hand is amazing. The software of the s2 has gotten pretty stale thanks to samsung and their ICS implementation just blows. A lot of guys were still on GB even when ICS came out. The GN is still a mixed bag for me, maybe by the time the next iteration of android comes out it'll pay off.
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And after 444 posts you still don't understand what is to put in the "Android Developement" section? That's Amazing man!!
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And after 444 posts you still don't understand what is to put in the "Android Developement" section? That's Amazing man!!
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+1 it's truly amazing how many people cannot read or follow rules/directions.
Pretty sure this Development section is the wrong place for an opinions thread.
To not seem like a jerk though, I'll share. I had an SG2, my GNex battery lasts on avg 35 hours with normal texting/facebook/calls. with gaming still get around 18hours.
I HATED the lag in screen wake with the SG2. (it's due to the way SG2 goes into deep sleep)
& Screen brightness? Honestly, I never have the brightness more than 60% unless showing off pictures.
Woops didnt mean that sorry . Mods if you'd kindly move my thread now before everyone flames my ass: )
Yeah one of the reasons why i wanted to switch my s2 was the wake up lag and the annoying home button lag . Seems allsamsung branded phones come with this now.
I had an htc sensation and a galaxy s2 before getting my Nexus, and all I can say is this: Root your nexus, install Aokp, foxhound, gummy, liquid, or paranoid (paranoid =coolest rom EVER) rom, install popcorn kernel and overclock to 1,4 , use root toolkit to increase camera quality to high, and then tell me if your still not happy with your Nexus :-D
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I had an htc sensation and a galaxy s2 before getting my Nexus, and all I can say is this: Root your nexus, install Aokp, foxhound, gummy, liquid, or paranoid (paranoid =coolest rom EVER) rom, install popcorn kernel and overclock to 1,4 , use root toolkit to increase camera quality to high, and then tell me if your still not happy with your Nexus :-D
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I'm not happy that you said use toolkit. People need to start learning how to root / do things without the toolkit.
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I'm not happy that you said use toolkit. People need to start learning how to root / do things without the toolkit.
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That's the easiest and fastest way of doing it. What's the point of doing it differently if its going to take you longer and still gives you the same results? Just because you know more about Android than others, doesn't make you better than everyone else in here.
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That's the easiest and fastest way of doing it. What's the point of doing it differently if its going to take you longer and still gives you the same results? Just because you know more about Android than others, doesn't make you better than everyone else in here.
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The point is that person is understanding the process of what rooting is. In the long run, it'll be better for them rather than making a new thread asking the same questions.
I never said I was better than anybody. People take things for granted, I've started using Android since the G1 days where we had to obtain root via typing things in terminal emulator / ADB to obtain root. Not use a toolkit. Having root access and flashing ROMs/kernels/radios is a valuable step in Android, it can't be spoon fed to you. The person has to put some effort into knowing what their doing. Otherwise they'll just make a bunch of threads asking the same questions because they didn't know what the toolkit was doing. Same concept goes for mathematics and science. If you don't know how the formula is derived then you're just walking in the dark.
If installing drivers for your phone then typing,
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery <nameofrecovery>.img
is too difficult for them to understand then they shouldn't be rooting and tinkering with their phone. It is Android 101, if they dont understand the basics of ADB / fastboot then they will have problems in the long run and keep saying that their phone is bricked because they don't understand the process of fastboot flashing back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909 8 pages here... for the most part they agree with the point I made here.
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That's the easiest and fastest way of doing it. What's the point of doing it differently if its going to take you longer and still gives you the same results? Just because you know more about Android than others, doesn't make you better than everyone else in here.
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Not being funny but that's how You like you'r fone set up, don't mean he's gonna like it too
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zephiK said:
The point is that person is understanding the process of what rooting is. In the long run, it'll be better for them rather than making a new thread asking the same questions.
I never said I was better than anybody. People take things for granted, I've started using Android since the G1 days where we had to obtain root via typing things in terminal emulator / ADB to obtain root. Not use a toolkit. Having root access and flashing ROMs/kernels/radios is a valuable step in Android, it can't be spoon fed to you. The person has to put some effort into knowing what their doing. Otherwise they'll just make a bunch of threads asking the same questions because they didn't know what the toolkit was doing. Same concept goes for mathematics and science. If you don't know how the formula is derived then you're just walking in the dark.
If installing drivers for your phone then typing,
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery <nameofrecovery>.img
is too difficult for them to understand then they shouldn't be rooting and tinkering with their phone. It is Android 101, if they dont understand the basics of ADB / fastboot then they will have problems in the long run and keep saying that their phone is bricked because they don't understand the process of fastboot flashing back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909 8 pages here... for the most part they agree with the point I made here.
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I also started in the G1 days, and have had 7 or 8 phones and 2 tablets. I know how to use Odin, fastboot, ect. Yeah, knowing those methods is of course great, but not relevant to what the OP is talking about right now. Having the toolkit available is another reason why I like the Nexus so much, and if he's saying he a not happy in general with the Nexus, difficult or more complex rooting methods won't help convince him otherwise.
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I also started in the G1 days, and have had 7 or 8 phones and 2 tablets. I know how to use Odin, fastboot, ect. Yeah, knowing those methods is of course great, but not relevant to what the OP is talking about right now. Having the toolkit available is another reason why I like the Nexus so much, and if he's saying he a not happy in general with the Nexus, difficult or more complex rooting methods won't help convince him otherwise.
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All of this is relevant. Especially when YOU told the OP to start flashing his phone etc etc. What made you think the OP is a person that likes to be flashing ROMs? He could be one of those individuals who feels that the GN is good as the way it is and wants to leave it stock and leave future updates in the hands of Google?
If anyone starts flashing their phone they should ALWAYS know the common knowledge of how to fastboot and use ADB. It is a absolute NECESSITY, especially if people are having problems with their phones. The cause of this is because people are unaware of what's going on because they're using a toolkit.
Galaxy Nexus (and other Nexus devices) are not hard to root/unlock bootloader compared to other phones. Drivers, fastboot oem unlock, flash custom recovery.
Other phones you have to do so much more.. take a look at Motorola.
That's like saying if a friend asked you for the solution to a math problem. Would you feed him the answer? No. Guide him in the right direction to learn and expand his mind. It's not that difficult. The hardest part of rooting a Galaxy Nexus is getting the drivers installed. And if you have a Mac, that's even easier. No drivers needed.
You both have valid points here...but this thread still needs to be moved
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You both have valid points here...but this thread still needs to be moved
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then report the thread so a moderator can move it.
done
zephiK said:
All of this is relevant. Especially when YOU told the OP to start flashing his phone etc etc. What made you think the OP is a person that likes to be flashing ROMs? He could be one of those individuals who feels that the GN is good as the way it is and wants to leave it stock and leave future updates in the hands of Google?
If anyone starts flashing their phone they should ALWAYS know the common knowledge of how to fastboot and use ADB. It is a absolute NECESSITY, especially if people are having problems with their phones. The cause of this is because people are unaware of what's going on because they're using a toolkit.
Galaxy Nexus (and other Nexus devices) are not hard to root/unlock bootloader compared to other phones. Drivers, fastboot oem unlock, flash custom recovery.
Other phones you have to do so much more.. take a look at Motorola.
That's like saying if a friend asked you for the solution to a math problem. Would you feed him the answer? No. Guide him in the right direction to learn and expand his mind. It's not that difficult. The hardest part of rooting a Galaxy Nexus is getting the drivers installed. And if you have a Mac, that's even easier. No drivers needed.
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Toolkit is the greatest and best way to root. forget about other methods. simpler is always better. end results are same. i don't need to know what the process is behind rooting ...i used toolkit enough times and had no issues at all. thanks to Dev for simpler method.
so accept it that toolkit is better. just cause you know the steps behind rooting doesn't mean everyone needs to know. sure you used G1 and followed harder methods but reality is that now we have toolkit so why bother using other methods?
ThANKS
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Toolkit is the greatest and best way to root. forget about other methods. simpler is always better. end results are same. i don't need to know what the process is behind rooting ...i used toolkit enough times and had no issues at all. thanks to Dev for simpler method.
so accept it that toolkit is better. just cause you know the steps behind rooting doesn't mean everyone needs to know. sure you used G1 and followed harder methods but reality is that now we have toolkit so why bother using other methods?
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No. Just...no.
hp13 said:
Toolkit is the greatest and best way to root. forget about other methods. simpler is always better. end results are same. i don't need to know what the process is behind rooting ...i used toolkit enough times and had no issues at all. thanks to Dev for simpler method.
so accept it that toolkit is better. just cause you know the steps behind rooting doesn't mean everyone needs to know. sure you used G1 and followed harder methods but reality is that now we have toolkit so why bother using other methods?
ThANKS
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Ease of convenience does not always make for better solutions. Short cuts don't always work out so well and if your going to be modifying your device why not take the time to learn the correct methods? But on the other hand, to each their own.
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hp13 said:
just cause you know the steps behind rooting doesn't mean everyone needs to know.
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Correct but if you plan on rooting it you most definitely should know the steps behind it.
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seriously? who cares how people root their phone...go outside.
and yeah op, the gnex is pretty sweet for roms and mods, but yeah the s2 has some better attributes then the nexus
Well i was sitting back wondering how i got into rooting phones and decided to post this, How did you guys get into modding, rooting phones and when you started?
Well i got into this just before i got my tablet, which was a coby kryos, and it wasnt very good and didnt have the android market, so i did some research and found a website, and proceeded to do this thing called rooting. after it was all said and done, i thought i was done messing around with the phone, but then i find out about this other OS that is android but runs a little better than the stock rooted OS. Called Cyanogen mod 7. followed the instructions and it worked. so i took it further and rooted my phone i had at the time, the intercept. Thus this addiction was formed.
Everyday i would look to see if there was an update for my phone. or a updated version of cm7. Once i found out that there wasnt really a big community for either the kyros or the intercept i decided to go to a galaxy phone. took my sisters upgrade and got the E4gT. and since then its almost been smooth sailing for rooting, etc.
Now i am to the point where i want to start developing roms and what not, just have to get the courage to start such a big project.
How did you guys start with this? Whats your story? Keep us occupied while we wait for source and leaks.
Well I started all the way back from the sony psp days, I was super desperate to play final fantasy 7 and wasn't willing to buy my 3rd ps2 just to play it and the thought of it being portable and play it anywhere is too good to pass up, then learned how to start flashing custom firmwares for it, then moved to jailbreaking ipod touches(yes I had three) but jailbreaking is annoying, i actually had to go leaps and bounds just to make it do what android is capable of as stock(play any videos format, flash content, download anything online,etc) so just decided to buy my first android the galaxy s fascinate(redhead step child of the galaxy s line) and now here
i went to sprint and i had the choise to get a I-SUCK OR A galaxyi got a galaxy never like apples i saw videos on youtube of people modding the galaxy so i gave a try and here im learning
well for started i almost bricked my phone the first day lol tell how i came here and i went to the galaxy s2 forum not epic 4g touch.. lucky i figure it out that i was in the wrong forum and i came here and use sfhub one click l29 since i follow his instruction never had a problem again...
My first android phone was the HTC Hero. It got a couple updates and the last one sucked. It was horrible. Phone was super laggy and froze all the time. By then Gingerbread was out and Spirit said the phone would not run it. Did some research here on XDA and found people running GB who said the phone was much faster and more responsive. Did a bunch more reading to make sure I knew what I was doing and flashed a GB Rom. It was much better and had all kinds of new features.
Had to run the stock rom on this phone for awhile, but as soon as I found an easy way to root and mod it (thanks Sfhub), I flashed a custom Rom and never went back. I doubt if I will ever use a stock Rom again. I'll be getting a GS3 in September and there will be many great Rom choices by then. No doubt I will root it the day I buy it.This thread was a good idea. Thanks
How i started rooting phones, thank the htc touch pro for that. Ive used developers talents to modify 4 different platforms ;windows mobile palm,apple (ipad) and now my second android
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Started hacking and cracking years ago. Mostly on PC's and Linux based machines. Then saw this thing called Android sweeping the market. Then saw the galaxy s. I had to have it. So I got the Mesmerize. I took a few days to familiarize myself with it. Then hit the web and found XDA. It was on froyo so I used z4root to root it. Then I started reading all the stuff I could do to it. With the help of some great devs and nice people I was flashing away. We had a lot of great devs for that phone. The Mesmerize and Fascinate was like brother and sister. We could swap kernels and such. And the fassy devs was nice enough to do things for the mes too. It was an awesome first phone. Then got this thing and love it. The devs here are nice and do great work. I miss some of the old devs but some of them show up in here from time to time. Times and sbrissen are some. I miss it JT1134 but heard he quite development cause he didn't have the time. Anyway. I love android and couldn't imagine a better hobby.
scarmon25 said:
Started hacking and cracking years ago. Mostly on PC's and Linux based machines. Then saw this thing called Android sweeping the market. Then saw the galaxy s. I had to have it. So I got the Mesmerize. I took a few days to familiarize myself with it. Then hit the web and found XDA. It was on froyo so I used z4root to root it. Then I started reading all the stuff I could do to it. With the help of some great devs and nice people I was flashing away. We had a lot of great devs for that phone. The Mesmerize and Fascinate was like brother and sister. We could swap kernels and such. And the fassy devs was nice enough to do things for the mes too. It was an awesome first phone. Then got this thing and love it. The devs here are nice and do great work. I miss some of the old devs but some of them show up in here from time to time. Times and sbrissen are some. I miss it JT1134 but heard he quite development cause he didn't have the time. Anyway. I love android and couldn't imagine a better hobby.
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i think its a great hobby too. Even when im doing other hobbies, i seem to sneak away and go on premium and look around. i know theres flashaholics, well i think im more of a xdaholic.
and everytime i see people with android phones, i try to explain to them that they dont have full advantage of their phone, then i tell them to come here. most of them do some of them dont. This is a great community and the more the merrier. its always nice to be able to ask things about your phone with other people that have your phone. anyways continue...
I got into rooting devices during the Windows Phone days, with the HTC Touch Diamond. I remember the old days of roms kitchens and building roms, things will a little different back then.
I started with the original Samsung behold because I wanted free games and ever since then I can't stop lol
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Ahh my HTC ppc 6700... Makes me feel old lol. Back when wm was the ****. I used to get stopped all the time by people asking me about my phone. And then when skyfire came out and we could watch flash videos. I use to show off.
Mightymike use to have the best roms. When he released roms his servers would crash. Nrg would come out with the latest and greatest for EVERY phone. Thats where sense started and always was memory hog. Back when xda was mainly a gsm website. Cdma people were all at ppcgeeks. I still see a few guys every now and then from ppcgeeks. Calkulins a legend. And ziggy, tsowen, santod with their themes. No2chem, conflipper, cmonex just to name a few. Lol
Sorry i was just reminiscing.
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Sorry double post
I used to have a Motorola hint. Always tried to play games, but no luck. Started learning about unlocking and got Motorola phone tools. I was able to fix my phone after I thought I killed it sideloading music onto my sd card. After that, me and my honey got Ascends, and I wanted to be able to fix my phone if I did something...stupid. read a bunch on rooting and one day, I took the plunge. I was a little apprehensive about voiding my warranty, but loved being rooted and Rom'ed. Got my Ascend 2 in December and rooted that. Then my buddy gave me his old HTC mytouch3g Fender edition. That was a beast to root, but I finally got it. Just waiting to save up for a better phone now...must mod!!! That's my story.
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DevalB said:
I got into rooting devices during the Windows Phone days, with the HTC Touch Diamond. I remember the old days of roms kitchens and building roms, things will a little different back then.
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Yep, same here. Good ol' Flipz fresh kitchen FTW. Lol.
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How I got into this
I've been reading about flashing and rooting ever since I got an evo 4g 2 yrs ago. Upgraded to the evo 3d and it came with a defective screen. I Ordered a Epic touch 4g to replace it and I got tired of all the b.s. about ics and decided to root. I can't believe I waited so long to do it. The bottom line is a week ago I flashed my 1st Rom using Odin one click, thank u qbking77, sfhub, sextape, chainfire , and everybody else who helped.Now I'm running cm9 nightlies after trying stock ff02 and ff11 and couldnt be happier. Im hooked. I rooted my girls evo earlier (s off and all) just to quench my thirst for a new rom to play with. I got a little to used to holding an evo again and accidently walked out the door with it on my way to work,lol. She's probably looking all over for the phone right now! Sorry honey. Hopefully she checks her email or fb on the PC ( cant call her) and sees my messages b4 she ends up tearing the house apart.
I have always been messing with everything electronic since I can remember. My dad worked on PC's so they where always around. I started really getting into phones with my Samsung a900 back in 05. I made a website on my home server that it could go to so I could side load apps and ring tones to it. Then I went on to WM and it just never stopped.
i had the HTC hero and wanted live wallpaper but i couldn't on stock so i rooted and ended up running cm7
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I have always been messing with everything electronic since I can remember. My dad worked on PC's so they where always around. I started really getting into phones with my Samsung a900 back in 05. I made a website on my home server that it could go to so I could side load apps and ring tones to it. Then I went on to WM and it just never stopped.
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Yeah I've been working on computers since I was a little kid. I remember helping my dad build his comp. When I was like 8. So I've been into computers for awhile. But i never had a forum I went to as much as this one. Even right now as I wait to go to work I'm on here 3-4am. Fb doesn't even get this much attention. Lol continue...
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I bought a Samsung Moment, what choice did i have
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I've always tinkered with electronics since I was little. Pissed my dad off a number of times taking apart computers and frying the HDD (didn't know static=bad day for a HDD when I was that little). I moved on to software from there. All of it is self taught the hard way or from the magic of Google. Eventually I got a Blackberry and started flashing "hybrid" setups on them until Android came out. My first Android was the MyTouch 3G Slide. I learned a lot from that phone before I moved to a G2. Overclocking a phone to 2GHz+ was just insane It was like having a nuclear reactor in my pocket. Now here I am. I've progressed to being able to decompile apk's, do what I want, and recompile a working app. We'll see what the future holds.
Good luck to every other aspiring dev on here. Don't get discouraged by any complexity or any trolls on here. I promise you're probably over thinking most things and trolls are just trolls.
Mytouch 3g. HTC decided to skip the 2.1 update and make me wait longer for 2.2 I took matters into my own hands. Thought I messed up when it got stuck at the splash screen. Turns out I missed the gapps file.(used to have to flash it before cm). After that all my phones were rooted within 24 hrs. G2,Mt4g, g2x, nexus s, and now my et4g. Unofficialy updated the dell streak 7 to honeycomb. And am currently trying to convince the gf that I won't turn the transformer prime into a $500 brick.
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Well i think it is. I rooted my phone last night and installed the beats drivers from the Play Store. Shortly, it froze and went straight to the Samsung logo. I can still go into both recovery and download mode, but what do I do after that? I've heard about Odin....but how do i exactly put the custom roms into my phone, and which ones? And if any one can point me to a guide or tutorial, ill be extremely relieved. I'm new to the website as well as android, so if anyone could please help me out, thanks
When you rooted did you NANDROID backup ? If not go into recovery and clear cache and then go into advanced and wipe delvik cache. reboot
If that fails go back into recovery and do a factory reset and you should be ok.
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Well i think it is. I rooted my phone last night and installed the beats drivers from the Play Store. Shortly, it froze and went straight to the Samsung logo. I can still go into both recovery and download mode, but what do I do after that? I've heard about Odin....but how do i exactly put the custom roms into my phone, and which ones? And if any one can point me to a guide or tutorial, ill be extremely relieved. I'm new to the website as well as android, so if anyone could please help me out, thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1727401
This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
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This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
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I disagree as long as you are willing to learn from the mistake all is good. I had a Samsung Exhibit II and deleted touch wiz launched (I was using go launcher) later I would do a factory reset and well... learned that system files do not get restored when you do a factory reset...oops
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I agree, we all were NOOBS at some point. That's the one thing I love about XDA is that with patience and the help of the users any noob can learn how to mod their devices. One piece of advice that I can offer is before you do any type of modding is READ and keep on READING. I have bricked the first device I ever rooted because I did not READ the forums as they are meant to be read.
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This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
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Yea, not cool dude..remember that WE were all NOOBS at some point in time, therefore we should support and help one another. As for what to do next, follow "Saldebot's" instructions and you should be fine. Sounds like it's only a soft brick. Just keep reading and learning as much as you can bud.
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Thanks guys, it worked. And my bad for not reading alot, im kinda new to this lol
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not fair
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This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
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Dude the vibrant is bullet proof . Now HTC that's a mother.
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touchdownadrian said:
Thanks guys, it worked. And my bad for not reading alot, im kinda new to this lol
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It's not the noobs who shouldn't be rooting... It's the lazy and careless who should stick to stock. If you are careful and diligent, rooting and all the good stuff that comes with it is easy and rewarding.
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It's not the noobs who shouldn't be rooting... It's the lazy and careless who should stick to stock. If you are careful and diligent, rooting and all the good stuff that comes with it is easy and rewarding.
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I whole-heartily agree, I was a freshman noob August 1st this year, by August 4th I was flashing like a pro. Left and right, ROMs, Kernels, Modifying system files, you name it. I wanted to streamline my phone and future proof it somewhat by overclocking. I spent 3 days researching and educating myself, finding the best ROMs, weighing pros and cons, and when it came time to flash, I was on my PC all day making sure whatever I did wouldn't brick me. I carefully analyzed and learned about virtually all methods of flashing by watching tons of videos and reading a bunch of tutorials by several sources. I MD5 checksum'd every zip to be flashed on my phone using an app (to ensure download and transfer was successful). I must have verified that the files I was preparing to flash were indeed for my device make and model about a dozen times before ever touching a button. When I went to flash over my first custom Kernel (even though I had already flashed 2 custom ROMs shortly before that), on that last button my hands were literally shaking, I could not afford a second Galaxy S III. Everything went beautifully, all of my careful planning and hours of invested research payed off. I had done everything right and was rewarded with better battery life (about +50% on heavy load and +500% on idle) and performance (+25%).
My girlfriend also has a Galaxy s3 and she wanted the same performance I was getting. I flashed the exact same software to her device I had to mine, no changes.
Total time invested in flash on my device: 36 hours, at least
Total time invested in flash on her device: 1 hour... if that
The bottom line is yes, if you're not willing to put forth the effort and educate yourself first, you probably shouldn't be doing this. There are guides and tutorials out there for noobs and I would recommend you go there first until you know your way around your device. That way at least you have a little experience on your belt before you start doing anything too advanced (I did this when I was rooting my device for the first time).
As a side note, I know there are a lot of people out there worried about doing anything that could potentially brick their device. That is always a real possibility, I'm not going to lie to you, it happens more often than you think. However in just about every case of bricking you'll ever hear about, it's usually someone flashing something they're not suppose to, like a ROM designed for a different make and model of device, or something experimental that wasn't ready yet. Do all your homework (from multiple corroborating sources) before you undergo a flash and as long as you do everything "by the book" (so to speak) and don't rush through things by being lazy, you should be fine. Some even flash nightlies (yeah they're called that for a reason, updated versions of the ROM they currently have) EVERY NIGHT!!! In the end when you have an android device, you have an open source platform at your fingertips and you should take advantage of that, it would be a waste not to. If not, your next device might as well be an iPhone. They're great for noobs and as long as you're ok drinking whatever punch Apple gives you, they're pretty much impossible to brick since you can't do a whole lot with them. Apple will be happy to take your money and stiff you with closed source for it.
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I whole-heartily agree, I was a freshman noob August 1st this year, by August 4th I was flashing like a pro. Left and right, ROMs, Kernels, Modifying system files, you name it. I wanted to streamline my phone and future proof it somewhat by overclocking. I spent 3 days researching and educating myself, finding the best ROMs, weighing pros and cons, and when it came time to flash, I was on my PC all day making sure whatever I did wouldn't brick me. I carefully analyzed and learned about virtually all methods of flashing by watching tons of videos and reading a bunch of tutorials by several sources. I MD5 checksum'd every zip to be flashed on my phone using an app (to ensure download and transfer was successful). I must have verified that the files I was preparing to flash were indeed for my device make and model about a dozen times before ever touching a button. When I went to flash over my first custom Kernel (even though I had already flashed 2 custom ROMs shortly before that), on that last button my hands were literally shaking, I could not afford a second Galaxy S III. Everything went beautifully, all of my careful planning and hours of invested research payed off. I had done everything right and was rewarded with better battery life (about +50% on heavy load and +500% on idle) and performance (+25%).
My girlfriend also has a Galaxy s3 and she wanted the same performance I was getting. I flashed the exact same software to her device I had to mine, no changes.
Total time invested in flash on my device: 36 hours, at least
Total time invested in flash on her device: 1 hour... if that
The bottom line is yes, if you're not willing to put forth the effort and educate yourself first, you probably shouldn't be doing this. There are guides and tutorials out there for noobs and I would recommend you go there first until you know your way around your device. That way at least you have a little experience on your belt before you start doing anything too advanced (I did this when I was rooting my device for the first time).
As a side note, I know there are a lot of people out there worried about doing anything that could potentially brick their device. That is always a real possibility, I'm not going to lie to you, it happens more often than you think. However in just about every case of bricking you'll ever hear about, it's usually someone flashing something they're not suppose to, like a ROM designed for a different make and model of device, or something experimental that wasn't ready yet. Do all your homework (from multiple corroborating sources) before you undergo a flash and as long as you do everything "by the book" (so to speak) and don't rush through things by being lazy, you should be fine. Some even flash nightlies (yeah they're called that for a reason, updated versions of the ROM they currently have) EVERY NIGHT!!! In the end when you have an android device, you have an open source platform at your fingertips and you should take advantage of that, it would be a waste not to. If not, your next device might as well be an iPhone. They're great for noobs and as long as you're ok drinking whatever punch Apple gives you, they're pretty much impossible to brick since you can't do a whole lot with them. Apple will be happy to take your money and stiff you with closed source for it.
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Same here. It took me months of researching on my vibrant before flashing my first rom (bionix 1.6 by teamwhiskey). As I progressed, I did brick left and right but I always managed to bring it back to life with my prior knowledge. Now I'm eagerly waiting for my computer to be done downloading the root files and get started.
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Dude the vibrant is bullet proof . Now HTC that's a mother.
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Omg I LOVED THE VIBRANT! Restoring it from a brick was a piece of cake
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Dude the vibrant is bullet proof . Now HTC that's a mother.
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+++++++1 on that.... DAMN talk about headaches....
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Yea, not cool dude..remember that WE were all NOOBS at some point in time, therefore we should support and help one another. As for what to do next, follow "Saldebot's" instructions and you should be fine. Sounds like it's only a soft brick. Just keep reading and learning as much as you can bud.
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Yeah one of the only other IMPORTANT thinks i could add would be always do a factory reset before flashing roms.. some people like to flash "dirty" i wouldnt recommend it cause you will ALWAYS have issues maybe not in a hour but guaranteed you will... but knowledge is power dude.. i two read for about 36 hours before rooting my phone.. i rooted my wifes phone days after a rooted mine back in the day it only took like 15 mins.. another thing let phone sit 10 mins before ya play with it... gotta let the cache settle... the ten min wait is well worth it.. ive been doing it that way since the vibrant bro.. happy flashing and welcome..
I read constantly things change hourly like when that new leaked kernels came out for sgs2 and the emmc was trashed never to come back from a brick again. To anyone that cares if you love your phone read more than just the root and flash stuff learn what makes your phone tick from the factory hardware software and added crap from your carrier it all play's a part in the end result. Its as easy as you make it.
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Omg I LOVED THE VIBRANT! Restoring it from a brick was a piece of cake
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Ive passed down two vibrants (both rooted) to my sons so they can learn to flash roms and everything else that comes from the joys of root.
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ok so I've been flashing for years now, but mainly only in cwm or twrp, and just recently on odin. My last phones were a hauwei ascend, a nexus s 4g, and now the gs3. I accidently hard bricked my friends gs2....just happened to hit that right bug. Thankfully they replaced it free of charge...said the motherboard for the display went bad?? anyways I've never hard bricked a phone, and it kind of scared me of flashing again, especially my xmas present a new gs3. I've been enjoying the stock rom unrooted for awhile but being the nerd I am, I want to go further and more customization. I just rooted and recoveried my phone tonight...my concern is what are the known hard bricks for this device so I can steer clear of it, and avoid the hellstorm my girlfriend will give me!
The main thing is not to flash ROMs that are for the international version of the phone.
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don't drop it they're fragile lol
Well, the only issue I've really come around is that some users have reported that their SD cards corrupt during rare occurrences, mainly after flashing of new ROMs and such. You can read more of it here. Also, as mentioned above, do NOT flash any GS3 international ROMs/kernels/recoveries/mods. Other than that, you should be fine
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My bad kenny, my bad. Thanks for some tips and stuff to look out for guys i appreciate it.
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what will happend if the rooting is fail?
If rooting failed youve done something wrong.
These phones(S3s) are amazingly easy to root, flash, and maintain. Id be willing to bet your friends S2 wasnt hard bricked. If it booted into download mode or recovery it wasnt hard bricked. I maintain 4 phones other then my own and have owned 7 phones total. Never even been close to a hard brick. Just read up before ya do anything and you'll be good. I soft bricked my Huawei Ascend, didn't have a computer handy so I took it to Cricket to have the stock rom reflashed. They told me I fried the motherboard. I got it back and fixed it myself. Obviously it wasnt fried. I sold it and told Cricket to shove it.
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ok so I've been flashing for years now, but mainly only in cwm or twrp, and just recently on odin. My last phones were a hauwei ascend, a nexus s 4g, and now the gs3. I accidently hard bricked my friends gs2....just happened to hit that right bug. Thankfully they replaced it free of charge...said the motherboard for the display went bad?? anyways I've never hard bricked a phone, and it kind of scared me of flashing again, especially my xmas present a new gs3. I've been enjoying the stock rom unrooted for awhile but being the nerd I am, I want to go further and more customization. I just rooted and recoveried my phone tonight...my concern is what are the known hard bricks for this device so I can steer clear of it, and avoid the hellstorm my girlfriend will give me!
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To add to what was mentioned about not flashing ROMs meant for the international GS3, also note: In the "Original Development" threads where you will find ROMs like CM10, CM10.1, LiquidSmooth, and other AOSP ROMs, be sure to look for ones that say (d2spr) beside them. You will, occasionally, see one that may say (d2mtr) which is for Metro PCS and flashing it would likely give you a brick just like flashing one meant for the International GS3. When you go to a download page, like get.cm, for CyanogenMod, you'll notice they usually link to all variants of the same phone, so be sure to get one for the Sprint GS3, or which ever your carrier is.
Also, as mentioned above, do NOT flash any GS3 international ROMs/kernels/recoveries/mods.