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Massive drawbacks with this phone

Ghost volume button issue on most devices
No micro sd card support
Confusing user interface
No Facebook contacts sync
No native social network widget
Can't add more home screens
Fuzzy speaker
Lock screen vibration can't be switched off
No digital clock only analog widget
Quadrant benchmark only 1500 score
Lag in many areas
No Facebook events calendar sync
Only 5m camera
THE VOLUME BUG HAS REALLY PUT ME OFF AND SAMSUNG ARE STILL TO ACKNOWLEDGE

Ghost volume button issue on most devices - Valid Concern
No micro sd card support - Shouldn't be a surprise
Confusing user interface - Seriously?
No Facebook contacts sync - Facebook's fault, not Google's
No native social network widget - Again, look at the social networks for blame
Can't add more home screens - Never been more than 5 in stock android
Fuzzy speaker - valid concern
Lock screen vibration can't be switched off - Don't have one, so can't comment
No digital clock only analog widget - Never been one in stock android
Quadrant benchmark only 1500 score - Don't have one, so can't comment
Lag in many areas - Don't have one, so can't comment
No Facebook events calendar sync - Never been in stock android OR from facebook's app
Only 5m camera - Shouldn't be a surprise
Most of this is your own fault for not knowing in advance, or isn't a valid point.

"Massive"??...thats a strong term to use. Most of your points are either things we already knew or there are other ways to circumvent, so therfore a non-issue. I think you just wanted to make a thread just to be making a thread.

+1 to the other comments.... it is in the best interest to your homework before you purchase, not the day after
The ghost volume and fuzzy speaker are the only real concerns......... and Really. . . . . How many here are going to keep this stock ??? hmmmm???
My guess the sound and volume will be eliminated when either Voodoo is adapted to this phone or some other equal
And, as far as all those other issues custom roms solve all of them
As for me, I always try to get something that has great hardware the software doesn't matter, we here in XDA will customize, make, kang or just create what we need.

Seems to me that this threads are becoming typical every time a new device hits the market more so in this case with all the hype of the Nexus. Buyers remorse, lack of due diligence? Or something else…

Other than the low volume problem, this post only proves how ignorant you are.

Previous post sums it up.
UI is fine - blame the user not the tech!
I don't have the volume issue but that would be the only concern I would point the finger at.
Making a deal about vibrate on a lock screen - what next??
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knut150 said:
Seems to me that this threads are becoming typical every time a new device hits the market more so in this case with all the hype of the Nexus. Buyers remorse, lack of due diligence? Or something else…
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Saying that there has been a "lack of due diligence" implies that people have just gone out and bought the phone with no knowledge of it whatsoever. This isn't true. I read every single hands on, preview, and article I could find on the Nexus before I bought it, and not a single one mentioned any of the problems or small annoyances we have been having. So, tell me - how has showing "due diligence" made any difference to me?
Buyers remorse? Sure, that could factor into it - but only because of the problems.
These threads are becoming more typical because the devices are getting more expensive, and we are becoming to rely on them more for our day to day life. If problems are happening, they become more of an issue to us
viniturb0 said:
Lock screen vibration can't be switched off
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This can be turned off in Settings -> Security -> Vibrate on Touch

Shodney said:
This can be turned off in Settings -> Security -> Vibrate on Touch
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Not sure that setting is in Security - think its in display - and deselecting it in display has no effect on lockscreen
Then again - maybe I'm remembering incorrectly.

kindiboy said:
Other than the low volume problem, this post only proves how ignorant you are.
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This post only proves that for some people being polite is only an optional feature.
And also that is a lot easier to insult someone behind a monitor rather than face to face in real life.

Oh and Quadrant is one of the worst benchmarks available. Try some others like linpack / antutu / cf-bench. Eventho those are probably not optimized for ICS, they at least use multithreading etc.
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I actually agree on the interface/UI. Menu key appears on some apps at the bottom some at the top some dont have it at all. Also there's no menu key on the main android screen which Paul O'Brien has modded to show that its there in the code to be used. Not sure what Google were thinking there? Same old Google for me, rushing out updates. ICS needs some polishing in my opinion. Battery life sucks still on the OS too which I would have thought they would have addressed this time around. That volume bug is a pain too, BIG ONE!
This is my opinion mind, hope Google sort these things out.

recklesslife85 said:
I actually agree on the interface/UI. Menu key appears on some apps at the bottom some at the top some dont have it at all. Also there's no menu key on the main android screen which Paul O'Brien has modded to show that its there in the code to be used. Not sure what Google were thinking there? Same old Google for me, rushing out updates. ICS needs some polishing in my opinion. Battery life sucks still on the OS too which I would have thought they would have addressed this time around. That volume bug is a pain too, BIG ONE!
This is my opinion mind, hope Google sort these things out.
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If you're talking about what i think you're talking about then that is actually intended to be like that.
Apps that use the keyboard (Such as messaging, gmail, maps, etc.) all have an action bar where, amongst other things, the menu is that the bottom. When you start using the keyboard, the action bar is removed, and the menu button is then moved to the upper right side of the corner.
Of course, any other app developer can put this wherever they like, and for the apps not currently compatible with this type of menu they have the "compatibility" menu in the software buttons.
As for, what i assume you mean the launcher, it's possible that there is still code for it in ICS to be compatible with older phones that may be upgrading to ICS but will have the 4 capacitive buttons instead, including the menu button.

lamecake said:
Oh and Quadrant is one of the worst benchmarks available. Try some others like linpack / antutu / cf-bench. Eventho those are probably not optimized for ICS, they at least use multithreading etc.
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You mean my 4500 score in Quadrant using my tweaked kernel is meaningless???!?!? I don't think I can live any more...

viniturb0 said:
Ghost volume button issue on most devices
No micro sd card support
Confusing user interface
No Facebook contacts sync
No native social network widget
Can't add more home screens
Fuzzy speaker
Lock screen vibration can't be switched off
No digital clock only analog widget
Quadrant benchmark only 1500 score
Lag in many areas
No Facebook events calendar sync
Only 5m camera
THE VOLUME BUG HAS REALLY PUT ME OFF AND SAMSUNG ARE STILL TO ACKNOWLEDGE
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if that is your case, i don't see a point you complaining, might as well go get another make handset.

fdm1 said:
Can't add more home screens - Never been more than 5 in stock android
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I'm looking at my Motorola Milestone, which I believe is stock Android, with an option for seven and nine homescreens. But I don't use more than five anyway.

GiveMe2Beers said:
This post only proves that for some people being polite is only an optional feature.
And also that is a lot easier to insult someone behind a monitor rather than face to face in real life.
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Am stating a fact, ignorance is not an insult. dumbass is.

WhiterThanWhite said:
I'm looking at my Motorola Milestone, which I believe is stock Android, with an option for seven and nine homescreens. But I don't use more than five anyway.
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if that's the case, it isn't stock.

WhiterThanWhite said:
I'm looking at my Motorola Milestone, which I believe is stock Android, with an option for seven and nine homescreens. But I don't use more than five anyway.
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No, the Milestone is not fully stock Android but it's close. The launcher is slightly different as you've seen.

Obvious troll is obvious. Let the thread die, the OP doesn't care about your replies anyways - hence the lack of any sort of reply.

[Q] What you like seen in the next major update to ICS?

There is no denying that ICS is a major step forward for android phones (and it is awesome!) but what feature etc. do you feel should be included in the next major update?
One thing I would like is a quick access button to toggle the auto-rotate screen on and off! I use my phone a lot in bed and it`s imposable to use the phone with auto-rotate on (as with many smartphones I have tried).

GN_ICS said:
Another is the ability to stop, pause, fast forward music from the lock screen.
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ICS already has this

oscillik said:
ICS already has this
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You are right, after a restart is now there on the top... interesting!

download a widget app like Widgetsoid. You can make yourself an auto-rotate on/off widget

USB host OTG (promised but not delivered).
Syncing of the default browser with Chromium or Chrome.

I'd like to see some Siri competition.

Onboard external storage with ssd speeds. Even tighter and consistent integration with hardware and software. Methinks there is still going to be a clusterfuck of hardware and software still to come. Oem overlays should be optional and/or pick and choose what you like from their launcher. Still boggles my mind people buy a samsung or motorola phone and want sense on their rom. No sense if you ask me.
Sent from my samsung gt i9250 which is in the wrong country.

Clancy_s said:
USB host OTG (promised but not delivered).
Syncing of the default browser with Chromium or Chrome.
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Syncing already works for bookmarks with chrome.
PS: Didn't mean to thank you - wrong button, but oh well!

I want the stock Gallery App to be as smooth and as quick just like the rest of the OS. How come when you flick through photos and do pinch to zoom it's still sluggish just like on Android 2.2? Can't it be fast like the Browser?

Cannot think of much anything major yet, but here some minor ones:
The Google search bar is really unnecessary.
A disable option for the shutter sound would be nice but I guess they don't have it for legal reasons.
Maybe a pre-loaded plain black wall paper.

I would like to see integration with google talk throughout the device. I woild love for it to be like bbm/imessanger. I use it a lot and feel like it has great potential.
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spunks3 said:
I would like to see integration with google talk throughout the device. I woild love for it to be like bbm/imessanger. I use it a lot and feel like it has great potential.
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Will never happen.
BBM and iMessage work because the only devices that can communicate via those methods are the mobile phones themselves.
Google Talk works with computers too. Meaning that there is a large margin for disjointed conversations where part of the conversation is completely lost and unable to be referenced without getting the other person to repeat themselves.

New2Houston said:
A disable option for the shutter sound would be nice but I guess they don't have it for legal reasons.
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It better be silent on vibrate! Would be great if on vibrate the flash didn't go off either lol
Id like to see the ability to copy and paste pics, rather than having to save them and then send them

jdhommert said:
It better be silent on vibrate! Would be great if on vibrate the flash didn't go off either lol
Id like to see the ability to copy and paste pics, rather than having to save them and then send them
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I'd be surprised if they took that out - where when the phone is in silent/vibrate there is no shutter sound. That's how it's always been on my OG Droid, especially back when it was stock.

oscillik said:
Will never happen.
BBM and iMessage work because the only devices that can communicate via those methods are the mobile phones themselves.
Google Talk works with computers too. Meaning that there is a large margin for disjointed conversations where part of the conversation is completely lost and unable to be referenced without getting the other person to repeat themselves.
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Or simply have it do exactly what it does now, and sync conversations across devices? All that needs to be done is have Android device detection, like iMessaging, so that sms conversations automatically switch to Talk (or a rebranded version of Talk).

Regarding shutter sound: Can't we just rename/delete the soundfile, so it cannot be played? What's the filename and where do I find it?

oscillik said:
Will never happen.
BBM and iMessage work because the only devices that can communicate via those methods are the mobile phones themselves.
Google Talk works with computers too. Meaning that there is a large margin for disjointed conversations where part of the conversation is completely lost and unable to be referenced without getting the other person to repeat themselves.
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I don't quite understand. Why is it that when you bring computers into this equation, part of the conversation is liable to being lost?

GN_ICS said:
One thing I would like is a quick access button to toggle the auto-rotate screen on and off! I use my phone a lot in bed and it`s imposable to use the phone with auto-rotate on (as with many smartphones I have tried).
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There is an app called Smart Rotator which I use to only allow certain apps (ie Gallery) to autorotate. Very handy.

i wonder how ICS's keyboard is like.. Particularly, the horizontal keyboard. For some reason, in many of the text fields when using (practically) any type of keyboard, default, swiftkey, (and i don't remember the names of the other ones that i've tried in the past), the horizontal keyboard does not show the background at all. It makes a big text field of the field that you are typing and the touch keyboard takes up the rest with the "next" or "done" at the top right.
It's extremely un-user friendly. I want the apple style keyboard where regardless which orientation you are in, you can still see half of the keyboard, AND add a row to show all of the corrections/suggestions.
Hope that's in ICS, if not, please make it happen in the next update!

Do you guys even know why you want ics?

Besides it being new what are you really gaining. Tons of apps don't work on it. Besides folders and multitasking I don't even know what I'm really gaining. And if I have to lose one feature my phone has now ill pass. Phone works too good right now and ics theme will hold me over for a long time.
I understand everybody wants what is new but think about everything your really gaining. To me its like IOS 4.3 to 5. I upgraded my Ipad 2 lost jailbreak for what I see as a minor upgrade.
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You can stay on gingerbread then, it wont bother me really

I think you need to read up on what actually ICS changes besides icons and themes....

raqball said:
I think you need to read up on what actually ICS changes besides icons and themes....
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From the leaks, we are not getting the new ui because of twiz
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kingsway8605 said:
From the leaks, we are not getting the new ui because of twiz
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Once it starts hitting custom roms, I'm sure we will be getting all sorts of interesting things.

Fataldesain said:
Besides it being new what are you really gaining. Tons of apps don't work on it. Besides folders and multitasking I don't even know what I'm really gaining. And if I have to lose one feature my phone has now ill pass. Phone works too good right now and ics theme will hold me over for a long time.
I understand everybody wants what is new but think about everything your really gaining. To me its like IOS 4.3 to 5. I upgraded my Ipad 2 lost jailbreak for what I see as a minor upgrade.
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You sound like a old man in his old ways lol jk. I can't speak for everyone else but I bought my phone because it was at the time of purchase ahead of every curve (with the exception of nfc) so now that something is out that can make the phone better why the would I not want it. I'm patient in waiting but would love to have it yesterday
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How about true dual core support? or gpu acceleration through the whole phone?
List goes on.

Gingerbread has "true dual core support"

I'm not greedy. Because it's the New thing is the best answer I got. Newer is better right? J/k
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...bad joke.

Fataldesain said:
Besides it being new what are you really gaining. Tons of apps don't work on it. Besides folders and multitasking I don't even know what I'm really gaining. And if I have to lose one feature my phone has now ill pass. Phone works too good right now and ics theme will hold me over for a long time.
I understand everybody wants what is new but think about everything your really gaining. To me its like IOS 4.3 to 5. I upgraded my Ipad 2 lost jailbreak for what I see as a minor upgrade.
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Thanks to the informative Android blogs and tons of videos, most people know why they want ICS besides having a new look. As for your Ipad and losing jailbreak, you probably should have read in advance to see what features iOS 5 had before taking the plunge. I remember reading multiple times that people with jailbreak should hold up on iOS 5 until an untethered jailbreak is done. But hey, this is about Android

What I'm really waiting for is a nice AOSP ICS with everything working. I am less enthusiastic about TW ICS.

One of the videos showed better app controlled , limit or block apps from background data
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Hmm... OP you should consider the fact that ICS source was only recently released and I think the Nexus Prime launched just today. Of course not all apps are going to work you have to give app developers time to update the apps to be compatible. It's not all going to happen overnight that's why these things take time for the transition. Although I'm a little disappointed that TW covers up some features, I am looking forward to:
*Scrollable widgets
*The swipe gesture to remove notifications
*New notification bar Info slots (i.e. when you get a text you see the contact pic)
*Face Unlock (even though it can be bypassed it's cool nonetheless)
*Camera Speed
*New widget placement UI
*New Cool Blue Look
*The drag and drop feature to make folders
*How the app market stays in the app drawer on the top right
*The minimalist layout of all the Google Apps
*A few other things I'm sure everybody knows by now...
Not to say that you have poor judgment, I do advise reading up a little more on the updates before you jump in and discredit them for changing anything. I think Google is actually just trying to make Android more accessible to more than just Devs, if anything at least give them credit for that.
If you want an entire list of things that are new and how they work, read this review (Personally I think it's the best review that covers everything) it's 7 Pages!
LINK

Guys all I'm saying is it seems like alot of people want ics just because and are foaming at the mouth for it. Isn't alot of your apps not working kinda a big deal. People should just calm down enjoy gingerbread for a few more months.
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Improved multitasking is enough for me....a better looking OS.....speed.....better hardware acceleration...more efficient......data monitoring.......ability to block certain apps from accessing data and last but not least.............camera app (that thing needed updating)
ICS is what Android needs to be to fully compete with IOS the only real threat(since Isheep see differently). I am not too anxious to see TW and Sense on ICS
I remember when iphone first came out my buddies back in college were saying look at what I can do.....I pulled out my cingular blue razr v3 and said check this out....made a call lol
Just gotta wait till the apps are updated thats all

I have to agree with OP,to a certain extent. A lot of the new features are incremental, and I think you can duplicate most of them with already available apps/mods. Not to say I'm not going to flash ICS as soon as a good rom comes out, but I am pretty satisfied with how my phone runs now. ICS is the first step to integrate the Android phone /tablet os, like ios ,and will be much better as it evolves.
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Only if your hiding something?
Sure, you may be able to replicate some of those features with other apps, but thats the point... it brings these features to stock android.

newalker91 said:
*Scrollable widgets - Already offered in custom launchers
*The swipe gesture to remove notifications - Just extra glamour
*New notification bar Info slots (i.e. when you get a text you see the contact pic) - More extra glamour
*Face Unlock (even though it can be bypassed it's cool nonetheless) - There are apps that already offer this
*Camera Speed - Is a hardware feature of Galaxy Nexus, not ICS
*New widget placement UI - Very similar to TouchWiz
*New Cool Blue Look - Already have themes for this
*The drag and drop feature to make folders - Already offered in custom launchers
*How the app market stays in the app drawer on the top right - Already offered in custom launchers
*The minimalist layout of all the Google Apps - Will be available based on app, not Android version
*A few other things I'm sure everybody knows by now...
Many of the things that you've listed can already be achieved or are part of the Galaxy Nexus and not ICS. Just kind of goes to reinforce the idea that most people really don't know why they want ICS. I personally find ICS to be a bit too intrusive into my privacy, especially seeing as in the recently used app overlay it shows you the last picture you took. Definitely not appealing to people in relationships.
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Although I do see your point, the OP asks why I want ICS. I'm entitled to my opinion right? and I noticed the majority of the things you quoted and responded to have to do with modding the system in some way. How about having it all in one package and not having to download a bunch of apps to imitate what should come stock in the OS.
And what's wrong with a little "extra glamour" ?

I just want stock Gingerbread with better battery life and no CarrierIQ. I don't know how much faster people need these little computers to be but the E4GT is fast enough.

Request touchwiz ux for the HTC one

I just saw this for the s3 and thought it would be pretty cool if we could get our hands on touchwiz for the one if anyone is capable of this it would be awesome.
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Tou...TouchWiz? On the One? :crying:

why not just buy an S4 instead of a One
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Ok, here it goes again, without the use of the F word.
Why would you want touchwiz on our phones?
Samsung literally tried their best to copy Apple, while failing miserably. Instead of clean and sophisticated (for 2007 standards, people) Touchwiz looked like it was designed by children for use by children. 5th grade classrooms want their ugly pastel colors back!
And now Apple has changed their design, to only leave Samsung and their steaming pile of Touchwized crap to wallow in their own poor, copied design.
I BET Samsung will change the next iteration of touchwiz.
It's unfortunate when others can't recognize poor design when it's being sold to them for 200-600 dollars.

I mean, I have no problem with variety and choices but I'm confident nobody is going to want to port TW to the One.
It's just so.....childish looking.

I do not hate Samsung at all, I actually used the S3 for quite a while and I liked it; however from my experience, TouchWiz is extremely slow and laggy.. I mean even the S4 with all its hardware capabilities still has A LOT of lagging issues because of TouchWiz. I'd rather an AOKP ROM with Samsung that one with TouchWiz, especially since all the Motion features and Samsung applications are just useless, practically speaking.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1899537
take a look here

eurghhhhh! touchwiz is just ugly. I used to have the s3, couldn't stand touchwiz and so ran aokp on it. I really like the look of stock android but i have to say that i think sense 5 is nicer. Yes nicer than stock android. I think that sense 5 is the first custom skin that has ever looked nicer and ran just as well as stock. Why you would ever want to change that for touchwiz i will never know.

erikikaz said:
Ok, here it goes again, without the use of the F word.
Why would you want touchwiz on our phones?
Samsung literally tried their best to copy Apple, while failing miserably. Instead of clean and sophisticated (for 2007 standards, people) Touchwiz looked like it was designed by children for use by children. 5th grade classrooms want their ugly pastel colors back!
And now Apple has changed their design, to only leave Samsung and their steaming pile of Touchwized crap to wallow in their own poor, copied design.
I BET Samsung will change the next iteration of touchwiz.
It's unfortunate when others can't recognize poor design when it's being sold to them for 200-600 dollars.
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Someone needs to calm down....and I don't think Samsung copied apple at all....samsungs touchwiz and apple's ios look nothing and do nothing alike....
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he just came here to troll

My hate to touchwiz was one of the main reason to quit Samsung and return to HTC.
Variety is good off course. But it will be waste of time for a developer because there will be a little to no interest on it.

Hello, noob here, please don't crucify me. I used to have a GS3 and while my HTC one M7 is a much more solid, faster and sexier phone there are some features that I REALLLYYY miss. First is the pull down menu from the home screen with all the GPS, bluetooth, wifi controls etc. Second, swiping left to call and right to text from contacts was great... really nice feature. Third, editing contact info or adding a new contact, or even going into the phone icon and trying to find a phone number is ponderous on this OS. Can someone recommend another OS or solution? I wasn't sure where else to post this or how to search for all these criteria, so I thought this thread was the best bet. Thanks for your time!

Thadisrad said:
Hello, noob here, please don't crucify me. I used to have a GS3 and while my HTC one M7 is a much more solid, faster and sexier phone there are some features that I REALLLYYY miss. First is the pull down menu from the home screen with all the GPS, bluetooth, wifi controls etc. Second, swiping left to call and right to text from contacts was great... really nice feature. Third, editing contact info or adding a new contact, or even going into the phone icon and trying to find a phone number is ponderous on this OS. Can someone recommend another OS or solution? I wasn't sure where else to post this or how to search for all these criteria, so I thought this thread was the best bet. Thanks for your time!
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Custom Sense ROMs such as TrickDroid have the pull down menu with the horizontal row of scrollable buttons for WiFi, bluetooth, etc (it's called EQS - extended quick settings). Also, all 4.2.2 based ROMS (custom as well as stock) have the native EQS as well (you swipe down from the status bar with 2 fingers). I'm pretty sure there are 3rd party SMS/texting apps that will let you do the swipe thing. There are definitely 3rd party phone/dialer apps that handle contacts better, I suggest trying exDialer. It installs 2 icons, one called Dialer and one called Contacts. If you don't like how the program looks, there are plenty of themes for it. Always remember the good thing about Android is you're not forced to stick with default apps for almost everything. You can potentially replace all the default apps if you so choose: mail, calendar, dialer, contacts, camera, gallery, messaging, web browser, clock, calculator, etc.
Edit: there are also apps in the Play Store like "Notification Toggles" that give you EQS capabilities.

henrybravo said:
Custom Sense ROMs such as TrickDroid have the pull down menu with the horizontal row of scrollable buttons for WiFi, bluetooth, etc (it's called EQS - extended quick settings). Also, all 4.2.2 based ROMS (custom as well as stock) have the native EQS as well (you swipe down from the status bar with 2 fingers). I'm pretty sure there are 3rd party SMS/texting apps that will let you do the swipe thing. There are definitely 3rd party phone/dialer apps that handle contacts better, I suggest trying exDialer. It installs 2 icons, one called Dialer and one called Contacts. If you don't like how the program looks, there are plenty of themes for it. Always remember the good thing about Android is you're not forced to stick with default apps for almost everything. You can potentially replace all the default apps if you so choose: mail, calendar, dialer, contacts, camera, gallery, messaging, web browser, clock, calculator, etc.
Edit: there are also apps in the Play Store like "Notification Toggles" that give you EQS capabilities.
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nice! thanks dude!

Take a look here....
TouchWiz Galaxy S4

[Q] Can the LG G3 have stock/vanilla Android installed on it?

I don't like phones that have anything on top of android, like Touchwiz for Samsung phones or HTC Sense on HTC phones. I noticed the LG G3 also has something on top of Android, so can that be removed and/or have regular Android installed on it?

U need a nexus

When we get aosp for it ya. As of right now, no.
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The G3 UI is barely different than the Nexus UI.

There may be a possibility AOSP will be ported in because the bootloader is unlocked.

Remember though, aosp doesn't have anything built in to utilize the IR blaster or knock on/off and the like. So, unless you can find 3rd party apps that take care of that, you'll lose out on built in features of the G3.

partylikeaninjastar said:
The G3 UI is barely different than the Nexus UI.
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Are you blind?
gotzaDroid said:
Remember though, aosp doesn't have anything built in to utilize the IR blaster or knock on/off and the like. So, unless you can find 3rd party apps that take care of that, you'll lose out on built in features of the G3.
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Knock on can be added at the kernel level. IR Blaster support is native in KitKat.

partylikeaninjastar said:
The G3 UI is barely different than the Nexus UI.
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Huh? LG Home Launcher is completely different than stock Android.
Installing Google Now Launcher is the easiest way to run stockish setup. I'm sure there are tons of vanilla themes for all the popular launchers as well if aesthetics are what you're going for

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Knock on can be added at the kernel level. IR Blaster support is native in KitKat.
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Have you noticed that kernel support for knock-on always drained battery on other devices? The same will apply to the G3. Use of the low-power cores that the G3 uses for knockon is closed source and the source is only released to OEMs. Technically, all snap 800+ devices have the low power cores, but it's up to the OEM to enable them.
Kernel hacks to enable knockon keep the real cores awake while the phone is off, which is what causes the battery drain.
Not to mention, any third-party IR tool will never be nearly as good as the stock LG one.

joshnichols189 said:
Are you blind?
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Are you?
xlxcrossing said:
Huh? LG Home Launcher is completely different than stock Android.
Installing Google Now Launcher is the easiest way to run stockish setup. I'm sure there are tons of vanilla themes for all the popular launchers as well if aesthetics are what you're going for
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Here are the differences between a stock ROM vs skinned:
Launcher - most people run alternative launchers anyway so this is a moot point. And the Google Now Launcher is overrated anyway.
Native Dialer/Contacts app - not a huge deal.
Settings menu - besides the color, the only thing really different about LG settings is that it defaults to tabbed view which works a lot better at getting you to the settings you want quickly without having to scroll through a long list. If you like having to scroll through every single setting you don't need at the moment, however, you can switch to list view.
Keyboard - personal preference. I've been using SwiftKey since Gingerbread and it's my opinion that it's leagues better than the Google keyboard. I also think the LG keyboard is a step above Google's.
Native email and SMS apps - I've only ever used Gmail so I can't comment on LG's email vs Google's. We for the a messaging app, I'm pretty sure that Hangouts finally replaced it as the default (which I've been using since my Nexus 4).
Lock screen - I prefer LG's with or without knock code. Native shortcuts on the lock screen beats Google's plain lockscreen with only a camera shortcut.
Native camera/gallery - Google camera is available in the Play Store and I'm pretty sure Google got rid of the gallery app in favor of Google+ Photos. I don't see anything that makes the Google Camera better unless you take a lot of photo spheres.
Quick settings - first of all, stock Google quick settings are nearly useless since they're shortcuts, not toggles, and you can't change them. Quick settings is one of the biggest reasons to have a custom ROM on a Nexus phone. I like the style of LG quick settings because it's similar to CM's.
Did I miss anything?
Yeah, so I like I said, LG isn't that far from stock. It adds a ton of useful features over the bare bones that is stock while not differing too much in appearance. Besides, most of your time spent on your phone is in various apps that are all identical regardless of which device you're on.

The fact that you could write such a long post on the subject of them being so alike sorta disproves the idea that there's little to no difference between them. Of course Android features remain unchanged across different builds. Technically you could say any OEM skin over Android is "just like" stock based on this argument. It is in the sense that that they all add to the aesthetic of Android, but in essence there's basically stock android, vanilla, GPE, what have you and, well.....everything else.

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The fact that you could write such a long post on the subject of them being so alike sorta disproves the idea that there's little to no difference between them. Of course Android features remain unchanged across different builds. Technically you could say any OEM skin over Android is "just like" stock based on this argument. It is in the sense that that they all add to the aesthetic of Android, but in essence there's basically stock android, vanilla, GPE, what have you and, well.....everything else.
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Supporting my stance with examples doesn't disapprove anything.

partylikeaninjastar said:
Supporting my stance with examples doesn't disapprove anything.
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Support your point you did not. Do a write up on your favorite apps and features you did. I'm glad you like your LG software, not the issue at hand though. The OP was asking about vanilla android and you essentially told them "why there's no difference". They are in search for something specific not to be swayed into liking what they currently have.

xlxcrossing said:
Support your point you did not. Do a write up on your favorite apps and features you did. I'm glad you like your LG software, not the issue at hand though. The OP was asking about vanilla android and you essentially told them "why there's no difference". They are in search for something specific not to be swayed into liking what they currently have.
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I didn't do a write up of my favorite feature. I compared what little differences there are stock vs LG, backing up my claim that "LG isn't that far off from stock." I never claimed there was no difference — I said there is very little. And, what little differences there are, are minor since more time is spent in apps and system apps that define stock vs non are often replaced. I could switch to my Nexus 5 or 7 right now, continue this discussion or go back to what I was doing and the experience would be nearly identical (the not identical part being my screen's appearance when I press my recent apps button after I hit reply here).
So I'll continue to say, the LG UI isn't all that different from stock. Unless all you do is make calls and change settings. In which case, it's completely different.

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Have you noticed that kernel support for knock-on always drained battery on other devices? The same will apply to the G3. Use of the low-power cores that the G3 uses for knockon is closed source and the source is only released to OEMs. Technically, all snap 800+ devices have the low power cores, but it's up to the OEM to enable them.
Kernel hacks to enable knockon keep the real cores awake while the phone is off, which is what causes the battery drain.
Not to mention, any third-party IR tool will never be nearly as good as the stock LG one.
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No, no it does not. Kernel enabled wakeup only has a noticeable effect on battery on the Nexus 5 for the reasons you state, because the cores do not sleep. On every other phone the cores can sleep and battery drain is negligible. Smart IR is 100x better than Quick Remote, Quick Remote sucks to be honest.
partylikeaninjastar said:
Are you?
Here are the differences between a stock ROM vs skinned:
Launcher - most people run alternative launchers anyway so this is a moot point. And the Google Now Launcher is overrated anyway.
Native Dialer/Contacts app - not a huge deal.
Settings menu - besides the color, the only thing really different about LG settings is that it defaults to tabbed view which works a lot better at getting you to the settings you want quickly without having to scroll through a long list. If you like having to scroll through every single setting you don't need at the moment, however, you can switch to list view.
Keyboard - personal preference. I've been using SwiftKey since Gingerbread and it's my opinion that it's leagues better than the Google keyboard. I also think the LG keyboard is a step above Google's.
Native email and SMS apps - I've only ever used Gmail so I can't comment on LG's email vs Google's. We for the a messaging app, I'm pretty sure that Hangouts finally replaced it as the default (which I've been using since my Nexus 4).
Lock screen - I prefer LG's with or without knock code. Native shortcuts on the lock screen beats Google's plain lockscreen with only a camera shortcut.
Native camera/gallery - Google camera is available in the Play Store and I'm pretty sure Google got rid of the gallery app in favor of Google+ Photos. I don't see anything that makes the Google Camera better unless you take a lot of photo spheres.
Quick settings - first of all, stock Google quick settings are nearly useless since they're shortcuts, not toggles, and you can't change them. Quick settings is one of the biggest reasons to have a custom ROM on a Nexus phone. I like the style of LG quick settings because it's similar to CM's.
Did I miss anything?
Yeah, so I like I said, LG isn't that far from stock. It adds a ton of useful features over the bare bones that is stock while not differing too much in appearance. Besides, most of your time spent on your phone is in various apps that are all identical regardless of which device you're on.
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Are you delusional? Look at the two side by side and tell me they look similar.
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partylikeaninjastar said:
I didn't do a write up of my favorite feature. I compared what little differences there are stock vs LG, backing up my claim that "LG isn't that far off from stock." I never claimed there was no difference — I said there is very little. And, what little differences there are, are minor since more time is spent in apps and system apps that define stock vs non are often replaced. I could switch to my Nexus 5 or 7 right now, continue this discussion or go back to what I was doing and the experience would be nearly identical (the not identical part being my screen's appearance when I press my recent apps button after I hit reply here).
So I'll continue to say, the LG UI isn't all that different from stock. Unless all you do is make calls and change settings. In which case, it's completely different.
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Hey that's weird, the messaging app looks nothing like the AOSP app. You know what else looks different? Gallery, Browser, everything about the settings, the status bar does NOT conform to having a quick settings panel separate from notifications, the dialer has tabs but looks completely different, the keyboard is different, the stock email app is different, hell the lock screen is different. Even the recent panel is nothing like stock, or the initial button layout. These are all things that OEMs change and it is 100% false to call Optmius UI close to stock android with so much of the system UI changed. Like someone said, every OEM skin is close to stock android according to your logic.

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Are you delusional? Look at the two side by side and tell me they look similar.
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Hey that's weird, the messaging app looks nothing like the AOSP app. You know what else looks different? Gallery, Browser, everything about the settings, the status bar does NOT conform to having a quick settings panel separate from notifications, the dialer has tabs but looks completely different, the keyboard is different, the stock email app is different, hell the lock screen is different. Even the recent panel is nothing like stock, or the initial button layout. These are all things that OEMs change and it is 100% false to call Optmius UI close to stock android with so much of the system UI changed. Like someone said, every OEM skin is close to stock android according to your logic.
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If I put my Nexus 5, Nexus 7, and G3 side by side, and press home, they would all look exactly the same. If I start using all three exactly how I normally use them, they'll still look exactly the same. Because I use the same apps on all of them. Through regular use, the only differences are the lock screen when I turn my screen on, the quick settings when I pull down the notification tray, and how recent apps are presented when pressing the recent app button. In normal use, there are hardly any differences. I use my phone. I use apps.
And did you even bother to read anything of what I posted? I mentioned the messaging app. I also mentioned how Google is moving away from it in their Nexus devices (everyone's obsession) and having Hangouts as the default. I couldn't even begin to tell you what the stock SMS app looks like on the G3 since I only use Hangouts.
I also mentioned the Gallery app and how that's another thing Google is moving away from in their Nexus devices in favor of Photos integration in Google+.
Browser, admittedly, I did neglect to mention. I only use Chrome so it didn't occur to me. I did ask if I missed anything, though, so don't get your panties in a bunch.
I also compared and contrasted the Settings (seriously, go back up and actually READ my post), as well as Quick Settings, Dialer, email app, keyboard, lock screen, and the recent panel. Look, if you're going to sit here and try to have an argument with me, at least look at what I posted. You're the kind of person who reads a news headline and instantly jumps to conclusions.
Let me repeat my original statement: the LG UI isn't that different from stock Android.
I know reading comprehension isn't your strong point, but that simple lone acknowledges that there are differences between the two. It's not claiming they are equal. It's simply stating that they are not vastly different. Yes, they are different. I'm very aware of that, coming from three Nexus devices. I'm saying they are not that different and that the differences are even less when you're using your phone.

partylikeaninjastar said:
If I put my Nexus 5, Nexus 7, and G3 side by side, and press home, they would all look exactly the same. If I start using all three exactly how I normally use them, they'll still look exactly the same. Because I use the same apps on all of them. Through regular use, the only differences are the lock screen when I turn my screen on, the quick settings when I pull down the notification tray, and how recent apps are presented when pressing the recent app button. In normal use, there are hardly any differences. I use my phone. I use apps.
And did you even bother to read anything of what I posted? I mentioned the messaging app. I also mentioned how Google is moving away from it in their Nexus devices (everyone's obsession) and having Hangouts as the default. I couldn't even begin to tell you what the stock SMS app looks like on the G3 since I only use Hangouts.
I also mentioned the Gallery app and how that's another thing Google is moving away from in their Nexus devices in favor of Photos integration in Google+.
Browser, admittedly, I did neglect to mention. I only use Chrome so it didn't occur to me. I did ask if I missed anything, though, so don't get your panties in a bunch.
I also compared and contrasted the Settings (seriously, go back up and actually READ my post), as well as Quick Settings, Dialer, email app, keyboard, lock screen, and the recent panel. Look, if you're going to sit here and try to have an argument with me, at least look at what I posted. You're the kind of person who reads a news headline and instantly jumps to conclusions.
Let me repeat my original statement: the LG UI isn't that different from stock Android.
I know reading comprehension isn't your strong point, but that simple lone acknowledges that there are differences between the two. It's not claiming they are equal. It's simply stating that they are not vastly different. Yes, they are different. I'm very aware of that, coming from three Nexus devices. I'm saying they are not that different and that the differences are even less when you're using your phone.
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It's nice how you immediately jump to assumptions and insults, shows how big of a person you are. No I did not bother to read your full post because your argument is fundamentally flawed. You just admitted in your post that you use the same apps on both phones and don't even know what the G3 messaging app looks like. Take a look at Optimus UI and its versions of the AOSP counterparts and tell me they are not that different. It is obvious even looking at the default home launchers they are vastly different. It's also obvious if you are using the same replacement apps on both they will look the same, that's not the point. If you use the same replacement apps on an HTC with Sense or a Samsung with Touchwiz of course you will have the same experience.

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It's nice how you immediately jump to assumptions and insults, shows how big of a person you are. No I did not bother to read your full post because your argument is fundamentally flawed. You just admitted in your post that you use the same apps on both phones and don't even know what the G3 messaging app looks like. Take a look at Optimus UI and its versions of the AOSP counterparts and tell me they are not that different. It is obvious even looking at the default home launchers they are vastly different. It's also obvious if you are using the same replacement apps on both they will look the same, that's not the point. If you use the same replacement apps on an HTC with Sense or a Samsung with Touchwiz of course you will have the same experience.
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I'm jumping to assumptions because your replies only demonstrate that you saw that you had a disagreement with me and didn't bother read past that. Which you confirm. We're done. If you can't bother to even read what I have to say before, then I can't be bothered to continue to have this one sided discussion. Go about your day.

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I'm jumping to assumptions because your replies only demonstrate that you saw that you had a disagreement with me and didn't bother read past that. Which you confirm. We're done. If you can't bother to even read what I have to say before, then I can't be bothered to continue to have this one sided discussion. Go about your day.
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Excellent copout.

johnael7 said:
I don't like phones that have anything on top of android, like Touchwiz for Samsung phones or HTC Sense on HTC phones. I noticed the LG G3 also has something on top of Android, so can that be removed and/or have regular Android installed on it?
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Eventually we'll have aosp, and alot of LG features wont work, some people will get working but most will not.
And to be honest the UI isnt ugly in anyway its nice and i can live with it along with all the features it presents, should try to like it since we wont have AOSP for whileeeeeeeeeeeeeee