Does anyone have a car stereo with a USB port? If so can you elaborate on what that is like to use? I am purchasing a new unit and that feature is one I do not truly understand. A few questions I have are listed below, but feel free to add anything else you think might be useful in making this decision.
1: Does the phone charge while connected to a USB port on a stereo?
2: Can you use the file system and player controls through your stereo or do you have to control the music and other audio through the phone itself?
3: Does the audio work from all sources with a USB connection(for example phone calls or turn by turn), or will it only play music player audio?
4: If you do have access to the file system from your stereo, will it display song titles and artist info etc? How cumbersome is it do control this way?
Landara said:
Does anyone have a car stereo with a USB port? If so can you elaborate on what that is like to use? I am purchasing a new unit and that feature is one I do not truly understand. A few questions I have are listed below, but feel free to add anything else you think might be useful in making this decision.
1: Does the phone charge while connected to a USB port on a stereo?
2: Can you use the file system and player controls through your stereo or do you have to control the music and other audio through the phone itself?
3: Does the audio work from all sources with a USB connection(for example phone calls or turn by turn), or will it only play music player audio?
4: If you do have access to the file system from your stereo, will it display song titles and artist info etc? How cumbersome is it do control this way?
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It would be helpful to know what actual head unit you're getting. But I will try to answer most of the questions as best I can since I have a fairly new Pioneer HU.
1. Yes, but it only charges on "USB" mode, not "AC".
2. Yes and no. The Pioneer HU that I have does NOT support MTP mode (which is what Jelly Bean, and I believe ICS) uses. Basically MTP is the protocol for storage on the Galaxy Nexus. If you can find a ROM or Kernel or any way to change the mode to "Mass Storage", then you'll be able to browse the file system.
3. Only music (or whatever else is inside your MP3 file). When you connect to your HU through USB, your phone basically turns into a flash drive. From there you have to navigate to your "Music" folder and tell it what to play. The only way to do calls, navigation and music at the same time is to use Bluetooth or a 3.5mm cable with an inline mic.
4. It displays what is inside your ID3 tag inside the MP3 file. So basically, if you have all the info filled in, then yes, it will display it. As far as how cumbersome it is, it takes some getting used to, but not to bad (on Pioneer, I have no idea on any other brand).
Short answer: Unless your stereo support MTP or you can find a way to force "Mass Storage" (which I'm not familiar with a way how), your stereo will only charge your phone. It sucks, but that's the way it is.
Pioneer has the app radio which will control your phone and also allows you to use Pandora on the actual H/U. That said I have never used it nor do I plan on it as its a dual din and I am just happy using bluetooth.
I have a JVC unit that works great with my nexus running linaro aokp jelly bean. The unit is x50bt. It will not play through USB only charge. However it is Bluetooth enabled so it can play anything including you phone calls through your car stereo. I have it setup so that my phone auto connects and plays Pandora automatically. The head unit displays song title and artist and also allows u to thumb up or down using the remote conyrol. I also have playlists set up in power amp for my MP3s. The built in equalizer in power amp along with the equalizer in the head unit work well together. I have the USB cable in the rear USB port so it is hidden in my CRZ. The tiny Bluetooth adapter is in the front and does not look out of place.
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I have a JVC unit that works great with my nexus running linaro aokp jelly bean. The unit is x50bt. It will not play through USB only charge. However it is Bluetooth enabled so it can play anything including you phone calls through your car stereo. I have it setup so that my phone auto connects and plays Pandora automatically. The head unit displays song title and artist and also allows u to thumb up or down using the remote conyrol. I also have playlists set up in power amp for my MP3s. The built in equalizer in power amp along with the equalizer in the head unit work well together. I have the USB cable in the rear USB port so it is hidden in my CRZ. The tiny Bluetooth adapter is in the front and does not look out of place.
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Per your suggestion, I purchased the X50BT. I am not disappointed. As you said, it does not support MTP, however I have a tiny 32gb Flash Drive(about the size of the Bluetooth Dongle) inserted in the front and the audio quality is simply breathtaking. I have my phone set to auto-connect via Bluetooth, which it does seamlessly. It even connects for audio however the BT audio stream sounds terrible when compared to the USB audio from the flash drive. I don't know if that's a limitation of my phone, the technology or the unit but it hardly matters since I can fit all of my music on the USB drive anyway. I just have to use Bluetooth or the 3.5mm jack for Pandora. Thanks for the suggestion, I really love this head unit!
Landara said:
Per your suggestion, I purchased the X50BT. I am not disappointed. As you said, it does not support MTP, however I have a tiny 32gb Flash Drive(about the size of the Bluetooth Dongle) inserted in the front and the audio quality is simply breathtaking. I have my phone set to auto-connect via Bluetooth, which it does seamlessly. It even connects for audio however the BT audio stream sounds terrible when compared to the USB audio from the flash drive. I don't know if that's a limitation of my phone, the technology or the unit but it hardly matters since I can fit all of my music on the USB drive anyway. I just have to use Bluetooth or the 3.5mm jack for Pandora. Thanks for the suggestion, I really love this head unit!
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If you're rooted, you have to tweak the Bluetooth sound profile using voodoo or DSP manager for example (which one your kernel allows).
You could add some "gain" amp or reduce the "Mids" and raise the "Bass"..
I have a different sound presets for the:
-Phone speaker (added some mids)
-Headphones (optimized for my Sony headset)
-Blueooth (lots of bass and "Rock" setting, sound is pretty good)
Possible Helpful Info on UMS & MTP
Landara said:
Does anyone have a car stereo with a USB port? If so can you elaborate on what that is like to use? I am purchasing a new unit and that feature is one I do not truly understand. A few questions I have are listed below, but feel free to add anything else you think might be useful in making this decision.
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This thread might have some helpful info. (especially if the OP dev actually wrote the code for it).
(just tryin to help
danielsaenz said:
2. Yes and no. The Pioneer HU that I have does NOT support MTP mode (which is what Jelly Bean, and I believe ICS) uses. Basically MTP is the protocol for storage on the Galaxy Nexus. If you can find a ROM or Kernel or any way to change the mode to "Mass Storage", then you'll be able to browse the file system.
Short answer: Unless your stereo support MTP or you can find a way to force "Mass Storage" (which I'm not familiar with a way how), your stereo will only charge your phone. It sucks, but that's the way it is.
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I just wanted to point out that even if you found a way to force USB Mass Storage, it is unlikely that your radio would be able to read the filesystem. Most radios will only read FAT file systems, while the Nexus uses EXT3 (I think, could be 4). So Bluetooth/AUX are really your only options.
Gnex to HU
Landara said:
Does anyone have a car stereo with a USB port? If so can you elaborate on what that is like to use? I am purchasing a new unit and that feature is one I do not truly understand. A few questions I have are listed below, but feel free to add anything else you think might be useful in making this decision.
1: Does the phone charge while connected to a USB port on a stereo?
2: Can you use the file system and player controls through your stereo or do you have to control the music and other audio through the phone itself?
3: Does the audio work from all sources with a USB connection(for example phone calls or turn by turn), or will it only play music player audio?
4: If you do have access to the file system from your stereo, will it display song titles and artist info etc? How cumbersome is it do control this way?
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I just installed an Alpine HU, It is also does not support MTP. I really like using the Bluetooth but have found that I have to reboot my Gnex and or restart my car to get the Bluetooth to sync correctly. USB does charge but it is slow. One thing to look for is Bluetooth Parrot.
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I just installed an Alpine HU, It is also does not support MTP. I really like using the Bluetooth but have found that I have to reboot my Gnex and or restart my car to get the Bluetooth to sync correctly. USB does charge but it is slow. One thing to look for is Bluetooth Parrot.
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I have found if you just toggle the Bluetooth on and off on your phone it should sync.
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I am finding that it is more of how my HU looks at my blue tooth. Thus restart car. I am wondering if it has something to do with Android BT. My gnex has worked this way with multiple roms and BT enabled HU.
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I bought a cheap stereo from Wal-Mart a Dual stereo with Bluetooth, takes a SD card, front and back inputs and satellite compatible. It has the USB plug that charges but like the others, doesn't read the memory on the phone. I stream through Bluetooth all of the time with Spotify. My son's Galaxy SIII can connect too if I turn mine off without changing anything. It was a great investment. It is a convertible and the microphone works great at 70mph with the top down. For $118 I am very happy.
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I don't believe the Galaxy Nexus will work with the USB of many head units since the Nexus uses MTP instead of UMS.
Hopefully someone can come up with a UMS for the Nexus.
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I don't believe the Galaxy Nexus will work with the USB of many head units since the Nexus uses MTP instead of UMS.
Hopefully someone can come up with a UMS for the Nexus.
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I think the better way would for HU to be able to connect like they do to Apple products and have MTP support.
HU
I know that JVC / Ken-wood have apps for android. Looked more like a HU controller rather then playing from android. Never tested.
I think I figured why my USB isn't connecting from the AVH 4000 NEX to my galaxy note 3 SM-N900. It's possibly due to the MTP mode. I believe if the was a mass storage mode that will work, kinda like a USB stick. I don't think the firmware in my HU is properly picking up MTP, all it does is charge the phone. You need a kennel that has UMS enable for mass storage however the international note 3 SM-N900 currently does not have such kernels. There is only 3.... To my surprise. Maybe the last time I ever go with international models again. If anyone finds away around this let me know thanks.
My car does not have USB or card reader, but aux line!.
So I decided to go cheap and buy a Vieta FM Car Transmitter and BT Handsfree unit, and I does a decent job.
Perhaps in a future I'll go for a Parrot...
Hi guys (and girls),
I have HTC One X with stock ROM on it. I got myself a MHL cable (not original, from dealextreme) and i had an idea to make some kind of notebook from my one X. I already have BT mouse and keyboard (both logitech) and monitor with HDMI input port.
When i pair mouse and keyboard with my phone everything works well, i can write messages, scroll and all other stuff, but problem happens when i connect that MHL cable from my phone to monitor. I get clear and good picture on my monitor and everything is good when controlling phone by touch, but when i try to control it by mouse and keyboard everything really slows down. Mouse cursor has great amount of lag, and typing with keyboard is nearly impossible.
I saw other people using this kind of combination on youtube and other places and as i can see everything goes without problem, did anyone had experience like i have or has a reason why is this happening??
Thanks
wow, that could be normal, 1080p output and 2 bluetooth devices shouldn't be easy to handle together
I wonder if anybody have experience (or know the cause) why when i plug-in the HDMI cable on a multimedia dock, the tab looses GPS satelites completely?
I have a generic multimedia dock that didn't work at all until i loaded the Galatab3 Kernel. Everything work except that i noticed that when the HDMI cable is plugged-in feeding a tv, the GPS fades until all reception is gone.
It wouldn't be a big deal except that i plan to install the tab in the car so having GPS is crucial. Video is not that important but knowing my luck, i will be on a long trip feeding video to the kids in the back and suddenly have to use the GPS.
I was thinking interference from the dock itself???
Thanks for any help.
Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Stock Rooted
Android 4.2.2
Galatab3 Kernel
Hey everybody,
I don't have my Fire TV (the launch in Germany is still 2.5 weeks away) but I do have a question.. at least temporarily I'd like to connect it to an older monitor of mine which only has DVI input (I don't own an actual TV at the moment.. well, a tube tv set for my SNES ). I do have an HDMI->DVI cable but I just realized that I won't get any sound this way.. and since the speaker I want to use don't have optical input I have to find another way to connect those. One option would be a digital-analog converter (like this one, for example: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Digi...-Audio-Converter-Adapter-DHTV/2032388430.html) but someone mentioned that it's possible that the Fire TV works with regular USB sound cards which would be cheaper and not require yet another power plug and a bunch of cables.
I realize it's not an optimal setup at all, bus as I said, it's temporary. Has anyone tried this or maybe have a cheap usb sound card lying around they'd be willing to test for me? Tried the search function but didn't get any results.
kind regards
jpde said:
Hey everybody,
I don't have my Fire TV (the launch in Germany is still 2.5 weeks away) but I do have a question.. at least temporarily I'd like to connect it to an older monitor of mine which only has DVI input (I don't own an actual TV at the moment.. well, a tube tv set for my SNES ). I do have an HDMI->DVI cable but I just realized that I won't get any sound this way.. and since the speaker I want to use don't have optical input I have to find another way to connect those. One option would be a digital-analog converter (like this one, for example: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Digi...-Audio-Converter-Adapter-DHTV/2032388430.html) but someone mentioned that it's possible that the Fire TV works with regular USB sound cards which would be cheaper and not require yet another power plug and a bunch of cables.
I realize it's not an optimal setup at all, bus as I said, it's temporary. Has anyone tried this or maybe have a cheap usb sound card lying around they'd be willing to test for me? Tried the search function but didn't get any results.
kind regards
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I wouldn't even bother using an external DAC connected to the optical out if you re planning
to use an HDMI to DVI adapter. I, and a few others, have discovered out that the FireTV does
not support HDMI to DVI because of HDCP. Amazon video content will not display on the monitor
at all, and video from XBMC results in many dropped frames and video instability. You will also
not get any sound out of the optical. The only way to get around this is to find an HDMI splitter
or switch which will emulate HDCP, and that will cost.
Saying that, I would assume that the same would happen with USB audio (if supported), although
I have not tried it myself.
Thank you for the quick reply, it was just in time to cancel the order I placed for a cheap toslink-rca adapter
Will I at least be able to set up and tinker with the Fire TV? If I can't use it properly at my own place until I get an actual TV I thought I might give it to my mum for the time being, but I wanted to set it up first cause she probably won't be able to do that
jpde said:
Thank you for the quick reply, it was just in time to cancel the order I placed for a cheap toslink-rca adapter
Will I at least be able to set up and tinker with the Fire TV? If I can't use it properly at my own place until I get an actual TV I thought I might give it to my mum for the time being, but I wanted to set it up first cause she probably won't be able to do that
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Yes... it still makes a nice box to tinker with. That's what I did before
getting a HDMI switch to bypass the audio issue with DVI. You just
won't get any audio and video playback will be unstable to non-existent,
depending on the source. However, all the FTV menus will still display
fine, and so will games and other apps.
The only other thing to note is that since video will not display properly,
you will not see the opening video when you first activate your FTV:
you will get a blank screen. This made me think that I had issues with
the device and that it had crashed, but you really have to just wait through
it. However, I don't know what repercussions this may have on activating
your device if you are trying to avoid the automatic updates to non-rootable
firmware versions during initial setup.
I'd assume it's going to ship with new recent firmware, but thanks for the heads up, I'll set it up at work then, there I've got access to a display with HDMI input
edit:
Or I'll just block the firmware update thingie at home, following these instructions.
Any news on USB audio?
Did someone try XBMC and USB audio out? I have a pure Digi Amp and like to have volume control. I assume optical out is without volume control...
Cheers,
Andy
Hey all,
I have a 2012 Acura TL, it has a 720p screen from the factory. There's a mod called NavTool which adds an HDMI port to the stock screen. I just finished installing the module and I now have the new input. However, what's my best option to make a "smart car" type interface? So far I bought a chromecast and set that up, but I'm having major trouble screencasting my M8's screen using a hotspot on my phone. I have a ATT Hotspot which I used to test screen mirroring with, but it's not ideal.
The car has Bluetooth for audio and calls, and normally my phone would connect to this. I'm able to change songs using the wheel controls (forward/reverse/play/pause). With the NavTool addon, the HDMI audio gets routed through my car's AUX input, so when screen casting I need to switch inputs to AUX instead of BT. As far as I know there's no way to keep audio streamed via phone's bluetooth while screen casting.
So right now, what can I do? I have an HTC M8, but I'm thinking of upgrading to either the HTC 10, or the next larger variant of the Nexus. I don't have to stick with chromecast. I can switch to any system at all, I just need ideas as to what would be the best thing to do. I don't mind spending ~$100 to get this system working. I already spend $200 on the HDMI input. Please tell me your ideas, or if you've seen something which I can do, let me know! Thanks!